Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-01-11

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 11 Ianoyarioy 2005

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Xronia polla kai apo emena se oloys kai oles.

Opws gnwrizete, synedriase shmera to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio.

Amesws meta synhlqe to KYSEA, to opoio epeleje ws neo Arxhgo toy Polemikoy Naytikoy ton antinayarxo k. Dhmhtrio Goysh. O k. Goyshs einai mexri twra prwtos yparxhgos GEEQA kai qa analabei ta nea kaqhkonta toy stis 16 Febroyarioy.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, protiqetai h kybernhsh na syzhthsei tropoys oikonomikhs dieykolynshs twn agrotwn poy diamartyrontai pera apo tis epidothseis kai pera apo ta mexri stigmhs dedomena plaisia; Qelw na ferw ena paradeigma, as poyme, ton atoko daneismo toys apo thn Agrotikh Trapeza.

ANTWNAROS: Yparxei synexhs diadikasia dialogoy kai antallaghs apocewn metajy toy armodioy Ypoyrgoy kai twn ekproswpwn twn agrotwn gia mia seira qematwn, ta opoia syzhtoyntai kai ejetazontai. Einai fysiko otan yparxei symptwsh apocewn na didontai lyseis. Mhn jexnate oti ayth h kybernhsh exei kanei para polla gia toys agrotes. Metajy aytwn kai thn katarghsh twn panwtokiwn, poy einai mia shmantikh elafrynsh twn oikonomikwn epibarynsewn poy eixe o agrotikos kosmos ola ayta ta xronia.

XIWTHS: Yioqetei h kybernhsh thn apoch poy anaferei oti, otan enas Ypoyrgos diafwnei me epiloges ths kybernhshs, paraiteitai;

ANTWNAROS: Se ti anafereste;

XIWTHS: Anaferomai se mia apoch poy ekfrasthke xqes apo ton k. Ebert, sth synexeia yioqethqhke apo ton Grammatea toy kommatos k. Meimarakh kai genikws akoygetai toys teleytaioys deka mhnes poy einai kybernhsh h Nea Dhmokratia ws mia apoch gia thn opoia den exei topoqethqei h idia h kybernhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na sxoliasw th dhlwsh toy k. Ebert. Oson afora sth dhlwsh toy k. Meimarakh sthn opoia anafereste, den nomizw oti thn apodidete me apolyth akribeia.

XIWTHS: Den zhthsa na sxoliasete th dhlwsh kapoioy sygkekrimenoy stelexoys. Sas zhthsa na sxoliasete an h kybernhsh yioqetei ayto to ``dogma''@

ANTWNAROS: O kaqenas exei tis apoceis toy. Kat` arxas qa prepei na diapistwsoyme an kai poy kapoios diafwnei. Apodidontai se anqrwpoys diafwnies, oi opoies, omws, den einai kan diafwnies.

XIWTHS: Ayto poy rwtw einai ean h kybernhsh einai dektikh, einai anektikh se diafwnies apo melh ths gia kapoio zhthma poy h idia eixe thn prwtoboylia h an den einai dektikh kai otan ekfrazetai mia diafwnia, prepei na akoloyqei paraithsh.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apantw: Ekfrash apocewn me diaforetikh xroia den exei panta th morfh diafwnias.

XIWTHS: Ma otan exei th morfh diafwnias.

ANTWNAROS: As broyme, loipon, th diafwnia kai blepoyme otan yparxei sygkekrimenh periptwsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Na to pw egw ayto poy leei o k. Xiwths ligo pio apla: Yparxei problhma me ton k. Soyflia;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. O k. Soyflias apolambanei ths empistosynhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy, kati poy diapistwqhke, allwste, sth synanthsh poy eixan prin apo liges meres.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh exei diafwnhsei se merika pragmata kai exei bgalei pros ta ejw ayth th diafwnia toy, den yparxei problhma;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti mia diatypwsh apocewn me diaforetikh xroia- diaforetikh apo ekeinh thn opoia exoyme synhqisei endexomenws na akoyme- den synista kat` anagkh diafwnia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Posh xroia prepei na exei dhladh h diafwnia;

ANTWNAROS: Qa sas parakaloysa na diabazete tis dhlwseis tis opoies kanoyn oi Ypoyrgoi, giati emena ws Kybernhtiko Ekproswpo me endiaferoyn oi dhlwseis poy ginontai epishma kai einai katagegrammenes. Aytes einai oi dhlwseis poy exoyn barythta gia ta politika proswpa kai oxi ekeines poy endexomenws toys apodidontai.

IWANNOY: An einai etsi, giati arketoi Ypoyrgoi ekfrazoyn dysareskeia gi@ ayta poy leei o k. Soyflias kai qewroyn oti einai diafwnia me kentrikes epiloges ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Se emena den exei ftasei kamia tetoia dysareskeia.

IWANNOY: Ma hdh, kai ayto poy eipe o k. Ebert dysareskeia einai. Kai ayto poy eipe o k. Meimarakhs proxqes, dysareskeia ekfrazei. Kai ayto poy eipe o k. Liaphs, dysareskeia ekfrazei.

ANTWNAROS: Den nomizw.

IWANNOY: O k. Liaphs otan anaferqhke proxqes ston k. Soyflia oysiastika diafwnhse.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti dhlwseis Ypoyrgwn einai aytes poy epishma katagrafontai kai oxi aytes poy endexomenws toys apodidontai kai malista me polles diaforopoihseis.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mas lete tosh wra oti den yparxei qema me ton k. Soyflia, giati den exei kanei epishmws dhlwseis apo tis opoies na prokyptei h diaforopoihsh toy apo thn kybernhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora oti den yparxei qema me ton k. Soyflia.

GKOYTZANHS: Nai. Kai mas lete tosh wra, epishs, oti den yparxoyn katagegrammenes dhlwseis toy k. Soyflia poy na synistoyn diafwnia me thn kybernhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti den yparxei qema me ton k. Soyflia.

GKOYTZANHS: Nai. Ta ypoloipa poy lete, ti aforoyn tote, an den aforoyn ton k. Soyflia;

ANTWNAROS: Eseis anafereste se alloys Ypoyrgoys;

GKOYTZANHS: Oxi. Kai ayth htan h prwth erwthsh poy hqela na sas kanw, oti qa prepei na diakrinoyme @eipate- an kapoios diafwnei h oxi kai an ayta poy leei einai diafwnies kai se ti anaferontai. Den dieykrinizete se ti anaferontai ola ayta.

ANTWNAROS: Anafereste se diafwnies genikws kai aoristws. Egw den exw diapistwsei kamia diafwnia. Ayto sas lew.

GKOYTZANHS: @Ara, o k. Soyflias den exei katagracei diafwnia. Ayto mas lete.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw diapistwsei kamia diafwnia.

XIDIROGLOY: Osoi apo emas eimaste filaqloi tis teleytaies dekaeties, eimaste martyres dekadwn ejaggeliwn gia thn antimetwpish toy fainomenoy ths bias stoys aqlhtikoys xwroys. Gnwrizoyme oti shmera o Prwqypoyrgos exei mia synanthsh me ton armodio yfypoyrgo Aqlhtismoy k. Orfano kai profanws to qema qa syzhthqei. Skopeyei h kybernhsh na efarmosei, dedomenoy oti eidame fwtografies stis efhmerides me xoyligkan, opoy fainontai ta proswpa kaqara, toys yfistamenoys nomoys, prokeimenoy na teleiwnoyme me toys tarajies twn ghpedwn;

ANTWNAROS: Ta astynomika organa, poy exoyn ws ergo thn thrhsh ths tajhs, exoyn entolh na efarmozoyn toys nomoys.

MIXAHL: Eipate epi lejei oti einai synexhs o dialogos metajy twn armodiwn ypoyrgwn me ekproswpoys twn agrotwn gia ta zhthmata poy toys apasxoloyn kai otan yparxei symptwsh apocewn dinontai lyseis. Yparxei symptwsh apocewn sto qema ths peraiterw epidothshs ths paragwghs toy bambakioy;

ANTWNAROS: Dieykrinizw gia mia akomh fora. Den yparxei qema eqnikhs epidothshs. Sas to eipe me safhneia o k. Roysopoylos xqes, to epanalambanw ki egw shmera. Ti qa shmaine allwste eqnikh epidothsh gia thn ypoqetikh periptwsh poy ayth qa epitrepotan apo toys koinotikoys kanones; Qa shmaine oti qa yphrxe epipleon epibarynsh twn Ellhnwn forologoymenwn kai eidika twn xamhloeisodhmatiwn, poy qa ekaloynto na enisxysoyn me dika toys xrhmata mia allh omada Ellhnwn politwn. Alla kai ayto akomh sthn prokeimenh periptwsh einai paranomo. Kai synepws den einai qema pros syzhthsh.

IWANNOY: Epanelegxos mporei na ginei, opws zhtoyn kapoioi boyleytes h agrotes stis posothtes toy bambakioy;

ANTWNAROS: Oi elegxoi ginontai kanonika. Den yparxoyn enstaseis, oson afora th fereggyothta kai thn akribeia twn elegxwn aytwn.

XIWTHS: Otan eixe sygkrothqei h Ejetastikh Epitroph gia toys ejoplismoys sth Boylh, ena apo ta koryfaia epixeirhmata ths kybernhshs htan oti sygkroteitai epeidh to zhtaei kai h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh. Opws deixnoyn ta pragmata, proanakritikh Epitroph den prokeitai na zhthsei kanena allo komma plhn ths pleiochfias. Einai ayto arketo gia na proxwrhsei h kybernhsh sth sygkrothsh proanakritikhs Epitrophs;

ANTWNAROS: As mh biastoyme na prodikasoyme thn peraiterw diadikasia, h opoia qa akoloyqhqei tis epomenes hmeres kai tis epomenes ebdomades. Lew tis epomenes hmeres, oson afora stis ergasies ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs poy oloklhrwnontai thn Paraskeyh me thn kataqesh toy porismatos sthn Proedro ths Boylhs. Apo ekei kai pera einai qema Olomeleias.

XIWTHS: H Olomeleia ths Boylhs elegxetai apo thn pleiochfia, dhladh apo thn kybernhsh. Egw ayto poy zhtw apla einai h qesh ths kybernhshs. Ean h qesh ths kybernhshs einai oti, apo th gnwsh poy exei mexri twra, dikaiologeitai h sygkrothsh proanakritikhs epitrophs.

ANTWNAROS: Th gnwsh toy porismatos qa thn exei thn Paraskeyh.

IWANNOY: To erwthma einai, ean protiqeste na zhthsete sthn Olomeleia Proanakritikh. Giati gia na ginei ayto, prepei monon boyleytes ths N.D. na to zhthsoyn.

ANTWNAROS: As perimenoyme thn kataqesh toy porismatos.

SIDERHS: Pote qa paei o Prwqypoyrgos sto epomeno Symboylio Ypoyrgwn Gewrgias stis Bryjelles, gia na bohqhsei sthn epilysh twn problhmatwn twn agrotwn; Eixe pei apo th Larisa, oti qa phgaine aytoproswpws.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh ayth petyxe para polla pragmata toys perasmenoys mhnes ston agrotiko tomea. Synepws kai xwris thn paroysia toy Prwqypoyrgoy stis Bryjelles, ta apotelesmata einai xeiropiasta kai orata. Ayto arkei.

MPOTSARAKOS: An kai den afora thn kybernhsh, afora omws ton Prwqypoyrgo: Ti symbainei me thn ygeia toy patera toy Prwqypoyrgoy; Exete na mas peite kati;

ANTWNAROS: Yparxei anakoinwsh toy qerapontos iatroy, thn opoia oloi gnwrizete. H katastash einai staqeropoihmenh. O Prwqypoyrgos amesws meta to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai to KYSEA episkefqhke ton patera toy, k. Aleko Karamanlh, sto nosokomeio opoy noshleyetai.

MIXAHL: Eipate oti yparxhgos toy Naytikoy einai o k. Goyshs. Arxhgos einai o k. Xhnofwths.

ANTWNAROS: Ayto exei apofasistei edw kai poly kairo. O k. Xhnofwths einai o mellontikos arxhgos toy GEEQA.

MIXAHL: Nai, alla to epibebaiwsate;

ANTWNAROS: Exei epilegei edw kai arketes ebdomades. Den tiqetai qema epanepiloghs.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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