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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 11 Ioylioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Kat` arxas, na sas enhmerwsw, symplhrwnontas kapoia stoixeia, oti to shmerino programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy diamorfwnetai ws ejhs:

Ayth thn wra, proedreyei se syskech me qema thn epikeimenh anaqewrhsh diatajewn toy Syntagmatos. Symmetexoyn o k. Kaklamanhs, o k. Staqopoylos, o k. Papaiwannoy, o k. Benizelos kai o symboylos toy Prwqypoyrgoy kaqhghths k. Papadhmhtrioy.

Stis 13.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa dexqei thn k. Aggelopoyloy. Qa synexisoyn th synergasia toys, h opoia den oloklhrwqhke xqes, gia to qema ths proetoimasias ths xwras mas gia thn Olympiada toy 2004.

Stis 15.00, qa dexqei thn k. Papandreoy kai ton k. Xrysoxoidh. Qa enhmerwqei kai qa syzhthsei mazi toys, dinontas tis aparaithtes kateyqynseis gia qemata poy exoyn sxesh me to problhma poy proekyce, meta thn ekdhlwsh twn pyrkagiwn.

To apogeyma, opws hdh sas exw enhmerwsei, qa exei synergasia me ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo kai ton k. Papantwnioy, gia ta ejoplistika programmata.

Prin dexqw tis erwthseis sas, qa moy epitrecete na kanw mia syntomotath anafora sto pws exoyn ta pragmata sto metwpo twn pyrkagiwn:

Ayth thn wra elegxontai oi pyrkagies se oles tis perioxes. Kapoies apo aytes exoyn kiolas sbhstei.

Sto metwpo ths Samoy paramenei to megalytero problhma, to opoio entopizetai idiws sta xwria Kastro, Aylaki kai Kokkari. H pyrkagia sth Samo einai se yfesh, brisketai katw apo apolyto elegxo. Bebaiws, h dynamh kai h fora twn anemwn ephreazoyn thn ejelijh twn pragmatwn. Ejhnta ena oxhmata kai 700 andres epixeiroyn se ayto to metwpo. Prepei na pw oti oydeis kindyneyei. Oi katoikoi ths perioxhs, oi katoikies, kaqws kai alla perioysiaka stoixeia, etsi opws exoyn ta pragmata, den diatrexoyn opoiondhpote kindyno. Poly perissotero, bebaiws, den diatrexoyn kanenan apolytws kindyno oi toyristes, oi opoioi episkeptontai to nhsi. Kai to lew ayto, giati exoyme mia kinhtopoihsh Ollandwn toyristwn poy epiqymoyn na epistrecoyn sthn patrida toys. Exoyn, opws legetai, mia tetoia parotrynsh apo thn patrida toys. Ayto qa ginei me apolyth tajh. Einai dikh toys epilogh kai epiqymia, apolytws sebasth.

Antilambaneste oti, ektos twn problhmatwn poy prokyptoyn kai einai orata se mia prwth anagnwsh toy pedioy katastrofhs mias perioxhs, dhmioyrgoyntai kai aytoy toy eidoys ta problhmata. Plhttetai to toyristiko reyma se mia perioxh. Qa prepei, loipon, na eimaste prosektikoi sto pws diaxeirizomaste ola ta synafh qemata. Bebaiws, qa prepei na prostateysoyme anqrwpoys kai perioysies, xwris na fqanoyme dia ths yperbolhs sto na blaptoyme ta symferonta mias perioxhs kai telika ta symferonta ths oikonomias kai ths xwras.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na moy peite, meta apo ayto to opoio synebh kai fetos me tis pyrkagies, an prokeitai na epanelqoyme se kaqestws poy na metexei kai allo ypoyrgeio kai ennow to Ypoyrgeio Gewrgias sthn katasbesh twn pyrkagiwn.

REPPAS: Antiqetws. H epilogh poy kaname @sthn prajh, allwste, ayto apodeixqhke, to gegonos, dhladh, oti to Pyrosbestiko Swma anelabe to kyrio baros, kata thn askhsh twn kaqhkontwn toy, oson afora thn antimetwpish twn pyrkagiwn- pisteyoyme oti apotelei mia lysh sto problhma.

Qa prepei, ayth thn wra, na ginei katanohto to ejhs: Einai dikaiologhmenh h pikria me thn opoia miloyn oi sympolites mas poy exoyn plhgei apo tis pyrkagies. Exoyn xasei tis perioysies toys, exoyn dei pws h blabh gia thn epaggelmatikh h thn oikogeneiakh zwh toys einai shmantikh. Einai sebasth h kritikh poy askoyn. Prepei oloi na antilhfqoyn, omws, oti apenanti se tetoia akraia fainomena, oi dynatothtes poy exoyme einai megales, alla syxna den einai dynato na doqei lysh.

Gnwrizete poly kala oti o anqrwpos, para thn proodo poy exei epiteyxqei se polloys tomeis, den exei th dynatothta na dwsei lysh se ola ta problhmata poy prokyptoyn. Ayto prepei na mas kanei sofoys. Na mh mas diafeygei.

Na shmeiwsw, epishs, oti ta mesa poy diaqetei h patrida mas einai polla. Einai perissotera apo opoiadhpote allh xwra sthn Eyrwph kai malista apo alles xwres poy exoyn poly megalytero megeqos apo th dikh mas xwra kai oi yphresies toys exoyn na antimetwpisoyn tetoia fainomena se poly megalyterh ektash. Ayto einai, epishs, endeiktiko toy oti eimaste arketa proetoimasmenoi gia na antimetwpisoyme tetoia fainomena. Asfalws, epanalambanw, oloys mas stenaxwrei ayth h ejelijh. Qa prepei oloi, omws, throymenwn twn analogiwn, na bgaloyme ta orqa symperasmata. Kai ena orqo symperasma, metajy olwn twn allwn, einai kai toyto: h analhch twn sxetikwn kaqhkontwn apo to Pyrosbestiko Swma einai mia swsth epilogh, h opoia edwse qetika apotelesmata. Pisteyoyme oti h katastash qa htan poly xeiroterh, an synexizotan to kaqestws diaspashs twn armodiothtwn poy gia polla xronia xarakthrize ton tomea ayto.

Qewroyme oti, ayth thn wra, proexei oi armodies yphresies na kanoyn to ergo toys. Eseis na enhmerwsete toys polites gia to pws exoyn ta pragmata. Emeis na enteinoyme thn prospaqeia mas kai na diaxeiristoyme to synolo twn qematwn, na doyme oles tis pleyres toy lofoy, etsi wste na mh blacoyme ta eqnika symferonta kai bebaiws na paroyme metra gia na anakoyfisoyme aytoys poy exoyn plhgei. Ayth einai h alhqeia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, k. Ypoyrge, fqanei to Pyrosbestiko Swma gia olh thn Ellada; Sth Samo stelnate synexws dynameis. Den yphrxan ekei topikoi dasopyrosbestes poy qa mporoysan amesws na antimetwpisoyn to problhma, me apotelesma na kaei mexri na fqasoyn oloi. Twra lete oi 700@

REPPAS: Mh biazeste, giati gia th sygkekrimenh perioxh exoyme th dynatothta na bgaloyme sygkritika symperasmata, se sxesh me ayto poy synebh, sto parelqon, sthn Ikaria epi Neas Dhmokratias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: ``Patsisate'', dhladh.

REPPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti sth Samo staqmeyoyn oi perissoteres, meta thn Aqhna kai th Qessalonikh, dynameis. Ekaton eikosi tesseris (124) andres toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos einai monimws egkatesthmenoi kai askoyn ta kaqhkonta toys sth Samo. Ayto leei polla. Exei enisxyqei h dynamh toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos ekei, me th metafora andrwn apo thn Aqhna, th Qessalonikh kai alles perioxes.

Gnwrizete poly kala oti den einai dynato dipla se kaqe katoikia, dipla se kaqe xwrio na yparxei mia eidikh yphresia kai malista me ejoplismo kai ariqmo andrwn, poy mporei na mh xreiastei pote na teqoyn se epixeirhsh, giati kaneis den gnwrizei pote poy qa ekdhlwqei ena tetoio fainomeno. Bebaiws, exoyn entopistei oi perioxes oi opoies kindyneyoyn perissotero apo alles. Kai h Pyrosbestikh Yphresia basei twn sxediwn ths exei labei kapoia prolhptika metra. Sto plaisio aytwn twn prolhptikwn metrwn, einai isxyrh kai h paroysia ths Pyrosbestikhs. Sth Samo einai poly isxyrh kai enisxyqhke mesa se poly mikro xroniko diasthma. Mesa se ligh wra metakinhqhkan ekei kai oxhmata kai andres, prokeimenoy oi epixeirhseis na einai pio apotelesmatikes. Ara, den dikaiologeitai opoiodhpote parapono.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den profqasane oi andres ths Pyrosbestikhs@

REPPAS: Mhn eiste adikos kai mhn askeite ayth thn kritikh. Oti yparxei katastrofh einai kati poy oloys mas lypei. Alla qa prepei na mh xasoyme kai to metro eyqynhs, otan miloyme gia tetoia qemata. Sas lew oti h kinhtopoihsh twn dynamewn einai eparkhs. Ta mesa poy exoyme sth diaqesh mas einai ta perissotera apo alles xwres ths Eyrwphs poy exoyn poly megalyterh ektash.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den exoyn to idio problhma oi alles xwres me mas.

REPPAS: Bebaiws, oi xwres ths Eyrwphs exoyn analogo problhma kai ennow aytes toy eyrwpaikoy Notoy. Ta fainomena poy ekdhlwqhkan kai ekei, thn teleytaia periodo, epibebaiwnoyn toy logoy to alhqes kai diaceydoyn esas. Eidate ti antimetwpizoyn h Italia, h Gallia. Emeis, loipon, par` oti kapoioi to diakwmwdoyn kai ayto, exoyme ola ta mesa sth diaqesh mas, ta opoia xrhsimopoioyme. Me ta mesa ayta exoyme th dynatothta na rixnoyme 227 tonoys neroy ana wra. H Gallia mporei na rixnei 120 tonoys neroy ana wra me ta mesa poy diaqetei. H Italia mporei na rixnei 110 tonoys neroy ana wra.

STAMATOPOYLOS: An den fysaei@

REPPAS: H alhqeia einai pws h episthmh, alla kai h politikh den exoyn fqasei se shmeio na tiqaseyoyn toys anemoys. Na apagoreyoyn, fer` eipein, thn ekdhlwsh tetoiwn kairikwn fainomenwn h na mporoyn na elegjoyn thn entash twn anemwn h thn kateyqynsh pros thn opoia fysoyn. Ayta, einai alhqeia pws den ta elegxoyme. An mas kathgoreite gi` ayto, den exoyme kati na apologhqoyme.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei tis plhgeises perioxes kai pote;

REPPAS: Molis prin anakoinwsa oti qa proedreysei se syskech me synarmodioys ypoyrgoys, qa enhmerwqei gia ta qemata, qa dwsei kateyqynseis. Einai endexomeno, tis epomenes hmeres -analogws pws qa ejelixqoyn ta pragmata kai an ayto kriqei aparaithto- na episkefqei tis plhgeises perioxes. To anakoinwsa ayto apo xqes, otan sas enhmerwsa oti anaballetai h episkech toy sta Grebena.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mhpws, eixate shmera sygkekrimenh hmeromhnia. Gi` ayto sas rwthsa.

REPPAS: Den exw hmeromhnia. Gnwrizete oti einai se ejelijh h prospaqeia na elegxqei apolytws h katastash sth Samo. Qa exoyme plhrh gnwsh ths katastashs, tis epomenes wres. Epanalambanw oti o Prwqypoyrgos qa enhmerwqei apo toys armodioys ypoyrgoys. Qa katartisoyme to programma analogws, shmera-ayrio. Antilambaneste ki eseis, pws etsi prepei na ginei. Den prepei na biastoyme. Allwste, h paroysia toy Prwqypoyrgoy se mia perioxh den aposkopei sth dhmioyrgia entypwsewn. Tis entypwseis alloi tis epidiwkoyn, epeidh den einai aytoi oi opoioi qa laboyn kapoia apofash. O Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei mia perioxh, prokeimenoy h paroysia toy na einai xrhsimh gia ton topo ton opoio qa episkefqei. Den qa epidiwjei me thn paroysia toy na fanei xrhsimos ston eayton toy, thn kybernhsh toy kai to komma toy.

KAPPOS: Sth bash mias piqanhs episkechs toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Samo h kapoy alloy yparxei periptwsh na ejaggelqei programma apokatastashs zhmiwn, katabolhs apozhmiwsewn;

REPPAS: Exoyn milhsei oi armodioi ypoyrgoi poy episkeptontai tis perioxes. Pantote lambanontai metra eidikoy xarakthra gia thn antimetwpish twn synepeiwn meta apo tetoies periptwseis. To idio exei ginei gia plhmmyropaqeis, gia seismopaqeis. Kati analogo qa isxysei kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh. Ola ayta qa ejaggelqoyn to epomeno diasthma, efoson exoyme thn telikh, plhrh kai safh eikona gia tis synepeies kai ta problhmata poy dhmioyrghqhkan meta apo tis pyrkagies.

KAPPOS: Poio qa einai to ycos ayths ths oikonomikhs bohqeias;

REPPAS: Oydeis mporei, ayth thn wra, na prosdiorisei poia einai h ektash twn stremmatwn poy exoyn katastrafei, poies einai oi zhmies poy exoyn ypostei aytoi oi opoioi eplhghsan apo tis pyrkagies. Kai ayth thn wra oydeis mporei na apotimhsei se xrhma th zhmia h opoia exei proklhqei. Ola ayta, epanalambanw, qa ginoyn me systhmatiko tropo apo tis armodies yphresies kai h kybernhsh qa staqei arwgos kai qa anakoyfisei aytoys poy exoyn plhgei.

TAKHS: Eidame prokhryjeis xqes ejw apo jenodoxeia ths Samoy, sta agglika grammenes, oi opoies emmesws plhn safws kaloysan toys toyristes na fygoyn apo th Samo dioti kindyneyoyn. Ep` aytoy ti sxolio exete;

REPPAS: Einai mia anqellhnikh energeia. H skopimothta einai profanhs. Oi empneystes kai oi drastes epidiwkoyn na ekmetalleytoyn mia ektakth katastash poy dhmioyrghqhke sto nhsi, prokeimenoy na plhjoyn thn oikonomia toy nhsioy. Einai mia aparadekth energeia. Makari, oi armodies yphresies na fqasoyn se ena apotelesma, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisoyn tetoioy eidoys ekstrateies poy plhttoyn thn eikona oxi mono mias perioxhs, alla ths xwras mas synolika.

ALEJAKH: Etsi opws ta lete, o Prwqypoyrgos einai ikanopoihmenos, dhladh, apo thn antimetwpish toy problhmatos sth Samo;

REPPAS: Eipa xqes kai epanalambanw oti oi armodies yphresies, to kratos, kanei o,ti einai dynato gia na antimetwpisei ta problhmata. Ta mesa poy exoyme sth diaqesh mas kai xrhsimopoioyme einai arketa. Einai ta perissotera apo osa diaqetei opoiadhpote allh xwra sthn Eyrwph. Den yparxei kati allo to opoio qa eprepe na kanoyme, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisoyme to endexomeno mias pyrkagias. Oi idiaiteres synqhkes, katw apo tis opoies ekdhlwqhkan oi pyrkagies, ekanan poly dyskolotero to ergo twn armodiwn arxwn. Qa prepei na timhsoyme kai thn prospaqeia poy kanei to Pyrosbestiko Swma, oi andres toy opoioy, pragmatika me aytaparnhsh, exoyn apodyqei se ayth thn prospaqeia.

ALEJAKH: Dhladh, den isxyoyn ayta poy legontai oti o Prwqypoyrgos einai dysaresthmenos me thn B. Papandreoy kai ton M. Xrysoxoidh kai oti, shmera, se synanthsh poy qa exoyn, qa ekfrasei th dysareskeia toy;

REPPAS: Ayto to akoyw apo esas, gia prwth fora.

ALEJAKH: To oti doqhkan, xqes, aytes oi dyo epistoles kai poy to syndyasame me tis fwties@

REPPAS: Einai allo qema to ena kai allo to allo.

ALEJAKH: To jerw, alla qelw na kanw sxetikh erwthsh. Den skefqhkate oti mporei na qewrhqei apo kapoioys oti dinontai aytes oi epistoles sth dhmosiothta gia na mhn yparxei dhmosiothta sto qema ths Samoy; Den skefqhkate oti mporei na syndyastei ayto to qema; Dhladh, aytes oi epistoles giati den qa mporoysan na doqoyn meta apo liges hmeres;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos dexqhke mia epistolh kai ofeile mia apanthsh. O Prwqypoyrgos den prokalese thn epistolh toy k. Karamanlh. Opws, epishs, o Prwqypoyrgos kai h kybernhsh den prokalesan tis pyrkagies. Ayto shmainei oti o Prwqypoyrgos eixe thn ypoxrewsh na apanthsei. Sthn ypoxrewsh ayth eprepe na antapokriqei kai den prepei na syndeete to ena qema me to allo. Alla, gia to politiko skelos toy qematos aytoy qa exw th dynatothta na epanelqw, apantwntas se endexomenh erwthsh.

ALEJAKH: Ekana ayth thn erwthsh, giati xqes, enw eixame ayth thn katastrofh sth Samo, o Prwqypoyrgos emfanizotan na apanta ston k. Karamanlh se ena qema poy, bebaiws, exei th sobarothta toy, alla apo thn allh meria, den phge sth Samo. Htan polloi aytoi poy eipan giati den phge o k. Shmiths sth Samo. Giati den phge;

REPPAS: H apanthsh poy edwsa prin, isxyei kai sth dikh sas erwthsh. O Prwqypoyrgos den epidiwkei th dhmioyrgia entypwsewn. Moy dinete, omws, thn eykairia na pw oti o Prwqypoyrgos qelei, episkeptomenos mia perioxh, na fanei xrhsimos gia thn perioxh, oxi xrhsimos gia ton eayto toy, gia to komma toy, gia thn kybernhsh toy, me th dhmioyrgia entypwsewn.

Ayto to opoio prepei na kanw safes einai toyto: Asfalws, polles perioxes ths xwras mas plhttontai. Ayto mas lypei kai prodiaqetei, kaqe allo para eyxarista, sthn proseggish kai antimetwpish diaforwn allwn problhmatwn poy apasxoloyn thn ellhnikh koinwnia. Alla, kai ta alla problhmata, synexizoyn na yparxoyn. Qa prepei o kaqenas na askhsei ta kaqhkonta toy, na paijei to rolo toy. Kaqenas qa prepei na meinei sto metwpo, sto opoio exei taxqei, prokeimenoy na diaxeiristei tis ypoqeseis ths armodiothtas toy. H kybernhsh den qa paralysei. Hdh, polles dynameis, me th symparastash olwn mas, exoyn apodyqei se ayth thn prospaqeia na antimetwpisoyn kai na sbhsoyn tis pyrkagies.

H kybernhsh qa synexisei na askei ta kaqhkonta ths. Qa syzhthsei gia thn proetoimasia ths xwras, oson afora toys Olympiakoys Agwnes. Qa syzhthsei gia to ejoplistiko programma. Qa syzhthsei gia to megalo koinwniko qema ths apasxolhshs se synedriash toy kybernhtikoy organoy, meqayrio. Oyai kai alimono an h kybernhsh parelye, an h ellhnikh koinwnia parelye, an to endiaferon olwn mas htan monoshmanta kai apokleistika strammeno se ena metwpo, to opoio, bebaiws, einai poly shmantiko ayth thn periodo, alla den einai to mono. Se teleytaia analysh, qa ypotimoysame th xwra mas kai tis dynatothtes ths, an den kaname otidhpote allo, para na asxoloymaste mono me to qema ayto.

ALEJAKH: Mono dhmioyrgia entypwsewn qa htan an phgaine sth Samo o Prwqypoyrgos; Den qa htan kai endeijh endiaferontos;

REPPAS: H endeijh endiaferontos ekdhlwnetai me polloys tropoys. Ekdhlwnetai me to oti ta kybernhtika organa doyleyoyn entatika kai oi armodioi ypoyrgoi syskeptontai, dinoyn kateyqynseis kai antimetwpizoyn ta problhmata poy prokyptoyn. Klimakia ths kybernhshs exoyn breqei, apo thn prwth stigmh, stis perioxes poy exoyn perissotero plhgei. Kai o Prwqypoyrgos, o opoios exei synexh enhmerwsh, tis epomenes hmeres, qa einai etoimos, exontas plhrh gnwsh ths katastashs kai episkeptomenos tis perioxes, endexomenws, na dwsei me to diko toy teliko, ypeyqyno kai egkyro logo, to metro eyqynhs ths kybernhshs apenanti se ayth thn katastash, me sygkekrimena metra poy qa apofasisei h kybernhsh gia na anakoyfisei toys plhgentes.

MOYRTZHS: Eipate oti ta mesa poy diateqhkan htan eparkh. Kai h B. Papandreoy eipe oti kai o syntonismos htan ejairetikos. Alla, telika, h zhmia egine. Milame gia biblikh katastrofh. Dhladh, o monos ftaixths htan o Aiolos;

REPPAS: Den eipe kaneis tetoio pragma. Gnwrizete poly kala oti polla problhmata prokyptoyn stis sygxrones koinwnies. Den einai dynato na antimetwpistoyn apolytws, apo tis anqrwpines dynameis kai apo ta mesa poy mas prosferoyn h texnologia kai o politismos mas, se oloys toys tomeis, sthn episthmh, thn oikonomia, thn koinwnia. Den yparxei kati to opoio qa eprepe na kanoyme, peran twn oswn kaname mexri twra gia na antimetwpisoyme to endexomeno mias megalhs pyrkagias. Alla, oi ejairetika dyskoles synqhkes, mesa stis opoies anaptyxqhke ayth h epixeirhsh twn andrwn toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos, odhgoyn se ena tetoio apotelesma, to opoio, asfalws, einai lyphro. Exoyme katastrofh, alla apo to shmeio ayto, ews toy shmeioy na kathgoreitai to kratos kai oi yphresies toy oti den ekanan ayto poy eprepe na kanoyn, yparxei apostash. Den yparxei kati parapanw poy qa mporoyse na kanei to kratos. Deite ti egine stis alles xwres. Kai epanalambanw oti emeis, me dapanes toy ellhnikoy laoy, afoy o proypologismos problepei ayta ta kondylia, exoyme sth diaqesh mas diafora mesa, poy den exoyn oyte megales xwres ths Eyrwphs, opws h Italia, h Gallia, me poly megalyteres dasikes ektaseis. Ayto kai mono, deixnei oti exoyme kopiasei, exoyme dapanhsei xrhmata, prokeimenoy na eimaste etoimoi na antimetwpisoyme tetoies katastaseis. Ayto den shmainei oti den qa exoyme apwleies, oti den qa exoyme problhmata.

ELENOPOYLOS: Pote oi politikoi, idiaiterws aytoi oi opoioi kybernoyn se kaqe periodo, qa pacoyn na asxoloyntai me sygkekrimena qemata -akomh kai me to sxediasmo epixeirhsiakwn programmatwn kapoiwn anagkwn- na miloyn se periodoys organwshs kai proetoimasias ligotero se periodoys poy ekdhlwnontai ayta ta fainomena kai na mh miloyn poly aytes tis periodoys. O k. Xristodoylakhs, gia paradeigma, o opoios ekane poly kala th doyleia toy ekei pera, fantaze paratairos ws ypoyrgos Anaptyjhs se ena nhsi to opoio kaigotan. Exoyme plhrofories oti ypoyrgoi phran entoles poy qa pane. Ypo ayth thn ennoia tiqetai to erwthma.

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, den eystaqei ayto poy lete. H paroysia twn ypoyrgikwn klimakiwn exei to nohma toy endiaferontos ths kybernhshs, toy kratoys, gia thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn poy exoyn prokycei apo tis pyrkagies. Oxi gia thn antimetwpish twn pyrkagiwn. Giati, h antimetwpish twn pyrkagiwn ginetai me bash to sxedio twn armodiwn yphresiwn, toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos, en prokeimenw. Stis syskeceis, oi opoies ginontai, bebaiws, enhmerwnontai kai oi ypoyrgoi poy symmetexoyn se ayto to klimakio, gia th drasthriothta poy anaptyssoyn oi pyrosbestikes yphresies. Alla, einai ergo twn armodiwn yphresiwn h katasbesh twn pyrkagiwn, oxi twn ypoyrgwn. Einai laqos na exete thn entypwsh oti oi ypoyrgoi einai aytoi oi opoioi kateyqynoyn to Pyrosbestiko Swma gia to pws qa drasei. Ayto den symbainei. Alla, einai swsto -kai prepei panta na symbainei ayto- to oti oi ypoyrgoi symmetexoyn, enhmerwnontai, exoyn gnwsh gia to pws ejelissetai h katastash. Giati aytoi, akribws, analambanoyn kai thn eyqynh na ejaggeiloyn ena plaisio metrwn poy afora thn antimetwpish, apo meroys ths politeias, toy fainomenoy kai twn problhmatwn poy dhmioyrgoyntai. Den kanoyn epixeirhsh oi armodioi ypoyrgoi ekei, alla symmetexoyn se oles tis syskeceis, poy aforoyn, bebaiws, kai tis epixeirhseis twn andrwn toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos.

ELENOPOYLOS: Endexomenws na mhn eprepe na ginei ayth h syzhthsh twra, alla fantazomai oti qa exete akoysei ki eseis tis plhrofories.

REPPAS: Ta syzhthsame ola ayta kai nomizw oti h syzhthsh, twra pia, exei parei mia allh kateyqynsh, oson afora tis pyrkagies. Ta qemata ayta ta syzhthsame ektenws.

FILHS: H Samos einai ena nhsi opoy, gia logoys eqnikhs asfaleias, yparxoyn polles kai epilektes stratiwtikes dynameis. Gia poio logo den yparxei mia problech, wste aytes oi dynameis na lambanoyn meros, me bash kapoio sxediasmo, sthn prolhch twn pyrkagiwn kai na yparxei dynatothta ameshs kai epi topoy parembashs toys, efoson qa exoyn ekpaideytei eidika sthn antimetwpish twn pyrkagiwn; Akoysa apo ypeyqynoys topikoys paragontes, apo radiofwna, thn plhroforia oti apo th stigmh poy ekdhlwnetai mia pyrkagia, mexri th stigmh poy diapistwnetai h yparjh ths, pernaei ena krisimo megalo xroniko diasthma. Poso dyskolo einai na yparxei diaspora stratiwtikwn skopiwn mesa sta dash ths Samoy, otan jeroyme oti, kaqe xrono, pianei fwtia h Samos;

REPPAS: Apanthsa, prin, se erwthsh toy k. Stamatopoyloy kai eipa oti sth Samo staqmeyoyn oi perissoteres dynameis toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos, meta thn Aqhna kai th Qessalonikh, epeidh akribws einai diapistwmenh ayth h eypaqeia toy nhsioy poy exei polla dash kai, kat` epanalhch, exei ginei stoxos. Oi dynameis aytes einai arketes kai bebaiws, h bohqeia allwn dynamewn, ejw apo to Pyrosbestiko Swma, einai kai ayth dedomenh. Den parathrhqhke opoiadhpote kaqysterhsh. Eyqys, ws diapistwqhke h pyrkagia, h enisxysh twn topikwn dynamewn htan shmantikh kai se oxhmata kai se anqrwpino dynamiko. Mesa se dyo-treis wres oloklhrwqhke h apostolh enisxytikwn dynamewn. Ara, loipon, ayth h kathgoria den einai dikaiologhmenh. Kai blepw me xara oti akomh kai o nomarxhs Samoy, o opoios thn prwth hmera htan idiaitera epiqetikos, anagnwrizei twra oti, pragmati, yphrje mia ikanopoihtikh kinhtopoihsh apo ton kratiko mhxanismo. Ayto ta leei ola.

FILHS: Den apanthsate, omws, sto qema twn stratiwtikwn dynamewn.

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti dynameis ejw apo to Pyrosbestiko Swma, einai dedomeno oti bohqoyn. Apo ekei kai pera, gnwrizete poly kala oti oi stratiwtikes dynameis einai diatetagmenes me orismeno tropo. Den einai sthn armodiothta toys na askoyn kaqhkonta dasopyrofylaka.

FILHS: Oyte qa yparjei eidikh ekpaideysh;

REPPAS: Den xreiazetai na poyme tipota parapanw gi` ayto. Sas lew oti einai dedomenh h symbolh toys sthn antimetwpish aytwn twn fainomenwn.

MPOTWNHS: Meta thn antallagh epistolwn toy Proedroy ths N. D. kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy, h N. D. kanei ena akomh bhma mprosta kai kataqetei thn protash nomoy gia diafaneia sto dhmosio tomea, tis promhqeies k.t.l. Exete kapoio sxolio;

REPPAS: Einai kalodexoymenh h protash nomoy. Ta qemata ayta poy aforoyn th diafaneia, qa prepei na ta xeirizomaste me plhrh diafaneia. Qa ta syzhthsoyme kai sth Boylh. Exoyn proklhqei syzhthseis kai se epipedo politikwn arxhgwn kai o kaqenas eixe th dynatothta na bgalei ta symperasmata toy meta apo tis syzhthseis aytes. Pisteyoyme oti h N. D. katefyge s@ ena texnasma, prokeimenoy na dhmioyrghsei me texnhto tropo, ena pedio antiparaqeshs. Oi epiteleis ths httas ths N. D. den exoyn didaxqei tipota meta thn oiktrh apotyxia thn prohgoymenh periodo, otan eixan anadeijei ayto to qema gia na anadiplwqoyn sth synexeia. Pisteyw oti me thn kinhsh toy ayth o k. Karamanlhs kai h N. D. ekanan ena terastio laqos. Apokalycan tis pragmatikes proqeseis toys, oti dhladh den exoyn kamia diaqesh na asxolhqoyn me th sygkrothsh programmatos gia thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn ths xwras kai twn politwn. Qa epidoqoyn kai pali, opws fainetai, syntomotata s@ ayto to gnwsto kai prosfiles s@ aytoys paixnidi ths skandalologias. Ayto jeroyn na kanoyn oi anqrwpoi, ayto kanoyn. H N. D. apodeiknyei kai m@ ayto ton tropo oti einai mia politikh paratajh prosdemenh se ena xreokophmeno parelqon.

KARGOYDH: H N. D. meta th dhmosiopoihsh twn epistolwn sas kathgorei oti probhkate s@ ayth thn energeia gia na @

REPPAS: Me rwthse h ka Alejakh kati sxetiko.

KARGOYDH: @ gia na ``kacete'' thn proqesh ths N. D. gia diafaneia.

REPPAS: Einai dynaton, otan dinetai sth dhmosiothta h epistolh poy esteile o k. Karamanlhs kai h apanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy @mia apolytws diafanhs prajh- na qewroyn kapoioi oti ayto strefetai enantion ths diafaneias; Yparxei kapoia mystikh politikh h opoia prepei na akoloyqhqei sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh; Allwste, h epistolh poy apesteile o k. Karamanlhs den eixe xarakthrismo tetoio, wste na mporei meta na mas kathgorei oti kakws dwsame tis epistoles sth dhmosiothta. Den htan aporrhth h epistolh. Ayto poy prepei na pw einai oti o k. Karamanlhs qetei ayto to qema, se diafores eykairies. Blepw oti dhmosiografoi se efhmerides poy einai filikes pros th N. D., epixeiroyn na ``anebasoyn'' @kata to koinws legomeno- to qema ayto, prokeimenoy etsi na dhmioyrghqei ena plaisio, na kataskeyastei me texnhto tropo ena pedio dhmosias antiparaqeshs kata thn erxomenh periodo. O Prwqypoyrgos dexqhke mia epistolh me hmeromhnia 4 Ioylioy apo ton k. Karamanlh. Eixe ypoxrewsh na apanthsei s@ ayth thn epistolh. Gnwrizete oti gia liges hmeres eleice sto ejwteriko. Me thn epistrofh toy sthn Ellada, edwse thn apanthsh kai sthn epistolh toy anaferei oti protiqetai na dwsei sth dhmosiothta tis epistoles aytes. Kai epraje poly kala. H N. D., dhladh, eixe skopo me kapoia tetoioy eidoys ``koytoponhria'' na xrhsimopoihsei thn epistolh poy esteile o k. Karamanlhs gia na dhmioyrghsei qema ek toy mh ontos h na xrhsimopoihsei thn epistolh ayth sto oplostasio ths se eyqeto xrono, anadeiknyontas to sxetiko qema; Kai eide oti ayth thn taktikh, th strathgikh ths thn anetrece o xeirismos poy ekane h kybernhsh; Ta qemata ayta ta syzhtoyme dhmosiws. Den exoyme kanena logo na ta syzhtoyme mesw dhqen empisteytikwn epistolwn. Poly perissotero otan aforoyn th diafaneia. Giati emeis gnwrizoyme poly kala oti h politikh mas yperexei ston tomea ayto, se sxesh me ayto to opoio ekane h N. D. otan htan kybernhsh, alla kai se sxesh me ekeino to opoio proteinei.

Ki an qelete na ginw pio sygkekrimenos @kai qa sas koyrasw ligo, giati mas prokalei h N. D.- qa sas pw ta ejhs, anaferontas nomoqetikes parembaseis kai ryqmiseis poy eginan epi kybernhsewn toy PASOK, meta to 1993, ston tomea twn kratikwn promhqeiwn kai anaqesewn dhmosiwn ergwn, ryqmiseis oi opoies den yphrxan prin:

Me to nomo 2286/1995 poy afora ``promhqeies toy dhmosioy tomea kai ryqmiseis synafwn qematwn'' exoyme epanafora ths kentrikhs ekteleshs twn kratikwn promhqeiwn @ypobolh apo toys foreis programmatwn promhqeiwn kai ajiologhsh kai elegxo twn epimeroys aytwn programmatwn, toso kata thn epilogh, oso kai kata thn katartish, alla kai se oles tis faseis ths ekteleshs toy programmatos promhqeiwn.

Sto nomo 2229/1994 gia thn ``tropopoihsh kai symplhrwsh toy N. 1418/1984'' perilambanontai diatajeis poy anaferontai se diadikasies kai proypoqeseis symmetoxhs anadoxwn dhmosiwn ergwn sto stadio ypobolhs prosforwn, se prosqetes eggyhseis sthn katartish ths symbashs, alla kai ylopoihshs toy ergoy, se kyrwseis gia thn periptwsh aqethshs twn ypoxrewsewn kai alles shmantikes diatajeis.

Me to nomo 2372/1996 gia th ``systash forewn gia thn epitaxynsh ths anaptyjiakhs diadikasias kai alles diatajeis'', sto arqro 4 emperiexontai diatajeis sxetikes me tis symplhrwmatikes ergasies sta dhmosia erga kai tis aprobleptes dapanes kai th dynatothta dienergeias elegxoy sta erga ayta apo texniko symboylo ergwn.

Me to nomo 2522/1997 gia ``dikastikh prostasia kata to stadio poy prohgeitai ths synachs symbasewn dhmosiwn ergwn, kratikwn promhqeiwn kai yphresiwn symfwna me thn Odhgia 89/665/EOK'' problepetai paroxh plhroys dikastikhs prostasias apo tyxon parabaseis twn kanonwn diejagwghs diagwnismwn se ola ta stadia, apo thn prokhryjh ews th symbash. Mexri tote den problepotan ayto.

Me to nomo 2576/1998 gia ``beltiwsh twn diadikasiwn gia thn anaqesh ths kataskeyhs twn dhmosiwn ergwn'', exoyme kaqierwsh diadikasiwn kai krithriwn poy diasfalizoyn ton ygih antagwnismo, th diafaneia kai thn antikeimenikothta sth diadikasia anaqeshs toy ergoy, elaxistopoiwntas thn ypokeimenikh krish ths proistamenhs arxhs sthn anadeijh toy anadoxoy kataskeyhs dhmosioy ergoy. O anadoxos anadeiknyetai me maqhmatiko typo.

Me to nomo 2702/1999 poy afora ``ryqmiseis qematwn armodiothtas toy Ypoyrgeioy Anaptyjhs'', sto arqro 14, par. 2, dinetai h dynatothta ston armodio Ypoyrgo na zhtei apo to Elegktiko Synedrio kai ayto na pragmatopoiei ton elegxo nomimothtas kaqe eidoys symbashs.

Epishs, me to nomo 2741/1999 gia ton ``eniaio forea elegxoy trofimwn'' kai tis alles diatajeis poy perilambanei, sto arqro 8, symplhrwnetai h sxetikh nomoqesia gia tis promhqeies toy dhmosioy tomea. Kaqistatai pleon ypoxrewtikos o elegxos monimothtas twn symbasewn, twn promhqeiwn toy dhmosioy poy yperbainoyn to poso twn 500.000.000 draxmwn kai twn ektelesewn dhmosiwn ergwn poy yperbainoyn to poso toy enos disekatommyrioy draxmwn, apo to Elegktiko Synedrio. Problepetai symmetoxh twn ekproswpwn twn kommatwn kai dikastikwn leitoyrgwn sthn Epitroph poy einai armodia gia tis promhqeies shmantikhs oikonomikhs h texnologikhs ajias. Kaqierwnetai h ypoxrewtikh dhmosieysh twn diagwnismwn promhqeiwn dhmosioy kai dhmosiwn ergwn, se problepomeno gi@ ayto to skopo eidiko teyxos ths Efhmeridas ths Kybernhshs.

Prepei na sas pw oti epi twn hmerwn ths kybernhshs ths N. D. oydepote h tote kybernhsh asxolhqhke me to qema ayto. Enw, opws sas eipa, epi twn hmerwn twn kybernhsewn toy PASOK poies ryqmiseis exoyn ginei. Ryqmiseis poy deixnoyn oti exoyme ena isxyro kai pantws prowqhmeno, se sxesh me alles xwres ths E. E., plaisio.

Epishs, sygkrothqhkan kai leitoyrgoyn, meta to nomo 2286/1995 ennea Diakommatikes Epitropes. Kai gnwrizete oti apo poly kairo h N. D., poy den antexe th symmetoxh kai thn analhch eyqynhs s@ aytes tis Epitropes, apesyre toys ekproswpoys ths, oi opoioi antikaqistantai, opws leei o nomos, apo dikastikoys pleon leitoyrgoys. Giati h N. D., poy koptetai dhqen gia th diafaneia, apesyre toys ekproswpoys ths apo aytes tis Epitropes, oi opoies oso leitoyrgoysan, leitoyrgoysan apodotika, oi de apofaseis poy phran, htan omofwnes. Me th symfwnh gnwmh, dhladh, kai twn ekproswpwn poy eixe orisei h N. D. Giati toys apesyre; Profanws gia na exei th dynatothta na skandalologei ek toy asfaloys.

Mporw, loipon, na anaferqw se seira metrwn poy exoyn lhfqei. Paramenw se ayta, epanalambanontas pws h diafaneia diasfalizetai me tis ryqmiseis poy exei apofasisei h kybernhsh. Einai eparkes to nomiko plaisio sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh. Kaloyme kai pali th N. D. @opws allwste kai o Prwqypoyrgos anaferei sthn apanthtikh epistolh toy- otidhpote sxetiko exei, na to qesei ypoch twn eisaggelikwn arxwn. Ta qemata ayta, sto politiko epipedo, mporoyme na ta syzhthsoyme sth Boylh h opoy alloy. Apo kei kai pera, otidhpote mporei na synista ajiopoinh prajh h yparxei yponoia gia kati tetoio, yparxoyn dikastikes yphresies tis opoies as tis ajiopoihsei h N. D. As mhn anaferontai s@ aytes h N. D. h stelexh ths, otan den yparxei logos, opws kanei fer@ eipein o k. Ebert, o opoios zhtei eisaggelikh parembash gia tis pyrkagies. As zhthsei ayth thn eisaggelikh parembash ekei opoy kata th gnwmh ths yparxei logos. Kai se teleytaia analysh, gnwrizete poly kala oti oses fores analoga qemata teqhkan sta organa ths Dikaiosynhs, klhqhkan oi syxna kataggellontes ekproswpoi kai stelexh ths N. D. na kataqesoyn kai den eixan na poyn tipota. Etsi oi ``ypoqeseis'' odhghqhkan sto arxeio. Ara, loipon, einai faneros o skopos gia ton opoio h N. D. paramenei sthn askhsh mias tetoias skandalologikhs politikhs, epeidh adynatei na einai paroysa stis politikes ejelijeis, me programmatikes qeseis gia thn antimetwpish twn pragmatikwn problhmatwn poy apasxoloyn th xwra kai ton lao. H N. D. einai komma toy parelqontos, einai komma xwris programma, komma palaiokommatiko kai anaxronistiko.

FILHS: Toson o k. Karamanlhs, oso kai alloi arxhgoi kommatwn, opws o k. Kwnstantopoylos, o k. Tsobolas palaiotera, alla kai o armodios tote Ypoyrgos k. Kastanidhs, eixan proteinei oi men kai eixe apodexqei o de, na sygkrothqei mia Anejarthth Dioikhtikh Arxh gia qemata kratikwn promhqeiwn kai dhmosiwn ergwn. Dhladh, kybernhtiko stelexos eixe pei ``nai'' s@ ayth thn protash kai meta ypanaxwrhse o Prwqypoyrgos kai h Kybernhsh. Qa hqela na katalabw poio htan to skeptiko poy aporriptei ayth thn protash h kybernhsh; Afhste th skandalologia. To parelqon entajei, qa to ereynhsei h Dikaiosynh. Efejhs omws, giati na mhn yparxei mia Anejarthth Arxh, h opoia xwris epirroes Ypoyrgwn h kommatwn na leitoyrgei kai na elegxei tis promhqeies gia ta dhmosia erga;

REPPA: Prwta ap@ ola, tetoioy eidoys Diakommatikes Epitropes leitoyrghsan kai htan koinhs apodoxhs h leitoyrgia toys. Deyteron, h qesh mas einai gnwsth edw kai arketo kairo. Sas qymizw oti apo to Maio toy 1997 to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio synedriase kai asxolhqhke me to qema ayto kai eixe labei thn telikh qesh. Gia to oti, dhladh, den einai aparaithth h systash Anejarthths Dioikhtikhs Arxhs gia ta qemata ayta. Aplws, qa eprepe na beltiwqei to isxyon nomiko plaisio. Kai h beltiwsh ayth exei ginei me ryqmiseis stis opoies anaferqhka, prin. Qewroyme oti einai plhres to nomiko plaisio. Yperkalyptei, dhladh, to aithma gia th systash Anejarthths Dioikhtikhs Arxhs, giati qewroyme oti einai pio apodotiko, pio apotelesmatiko, ejasfalizei diafaneia kai megalyterh taxythta. To qema ayto, loipon, to exoyme antimetwpisei sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, apo tis 8 Maioy toy 1997.

FILHS: Lete oti o k. Karamanlhs, shmera, epidiwkei mia diaiwnish kat` analogian me thn protash toy gia thn idrysh Anejarthths Arxhs. Kai opws jerete kai eseis poly kala kai sas ypenqymisa kai egw, ton Maio toy @97 o armodios ypoyrgos Metaforwn kai Epikoinwniwn, ston opoio ypagetai to qema twn promhqeiwn k.t.l., eixe taxqei dhmosiws yper ths sygkrothshs ayths ths Epitrophs. Skandalologoyse o k. Kastanidhs, tote;

REPPAS: To qema ayto, loipon, metajy twn allwn, kai ej aytoy toy logoy, apotelese antikeimeno syzhthshs se synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy. H kybernhsh phre tis apofaseis ths. Apofasise, opws sas eipa, na proxwrhsei se ryqmiseis gia na antimetwpisoyme ta qemata diafaneias. Ara, to qema ayto to antimetwpisame tote, otan diatypwqhkan aytes oi protaseis. Paramenoyme se ayth th qesh.

FILHS: Apaj kai dia pantos;

REPPAS: An prepei na proboyme kai se alles beltiwtikes ryqmiseis na to kanoyme. Alla, na akoysoyme poies einai aytes.

FILHS: Exete thn protash.

REPPAS: Emeis qewroyme oti yperkalyptetai ayto to aithma.

FILHS: An yperkalyptetai, ftiajte to ki ayto.

REPPAS: Asfalws, yperkalyptetai, giati -epanalambanw- oi ryqmiseis poy exoyme kanei dinoyn th dynatothta sto Elegktiko Synedrio kai se alla dikastika organa na epilambanontai qematwn promhqeias h kataskeyhs dhmosiwn ergwn, pragma to opoio antilambaneste oti apotelei ena poly isxyro kai apotelesmatiko plaisio. Gi` ayto, akribws, lew oti yperkalyptei th leitoyrgias mias Anejarthths Arxhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pws yperkalyfqhke, tote, me ton k. Kastanidh; Ton k. Kastanidh ton ``fagate'' tote kai teleiwse.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti o k. Kastanidhs paraithqhke. Htan dikh toy epilogh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Efoson lete oti to plaisio einai poly kalo kai den pernaei tipota, ayto to BINTEOLOTTO pws eixe mpei tote sto nomosxedio; Htan skandalo kai to paradexqhkate ki eseis kai afaireqhke.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala poia htan h topoqethsh ths kybernhshs kai epi ths oysias paramenoyme sth qesh, oti tipota to mempto den yphrxe stoys xeirismoys kai tis epiloges poy eginan gia to qema ayto, tote. Aplws, gia na sterhsoyme apo th N.D. kaqe dynatothta na dhlhthriazei to dhmosio bio, proxwrhsame sthn anaklhsh ayths ths epiloghs. Tipote allo. Epi ths oysias h epilogh mas htan swsth. Prepei pantws na prosqesw kai kati poy den prepei na mas diafeygei: mesolabhsan kai oi ekloges kai o ellhnikos laos ta ekrine ola ayta. Syzhthqhkan kata koron. Isws einai apo ta qemata ta opoia apasxolhsan perissotero apo alla, isws pio shmantika qemata, ton ellhniko lao, doqentos oti gia ta sygkekrimena qemata den yphrxan analoga stoixeia. Gi` ayto lew oti alla qemata htan pio shmantika. O ellhnikos laos, loipon, diamorfwse apoch, ejeleje kybernhsh, dinontas chfo empistosynhs sthn politikh mas. H kybernhsh, loipon, einai ayth poy akoloyqei thn politikh thn opoia qespise, efarmose prin apo tis ekloges kai synexizei na efarmozei kai twra.

KAPPOS: Prohgoymenws, xarakthrisate anqellhnikh energeia tis prokhryjeis poy erijan sth Samo. To synartate ayto me ayto poy, epishs, eseis eipate, me tis idiaiteres synqhkes ypo tis opoies ekdhlwqhkan oi pyrkagies; Kapoia alla stelexh ths kybernhshs xrhsimopoihsan kapoioys alloys oroys gia emprhsmoys k.t.l. En toiayth periptwsei@

REPPAS: Me sygxwreite poly, giati kanete makroskeleis erwthseis. Eipa ki egw oti se kapoies periptwseis fainetai, ola ta stoixeia martyroyn pws einai emprhsmoi. Exoyn syllhfqei kapoioi ypoptoi. Se alles periptwseis exoyme isxyrotates endeijeis, afoy exoyn breqei emprhstikoi mhxanismoi stis kamenes perioxes. Kai se kapoies alles periptwseis prepei na apodwsoyme tis pyrkagies se anaflejh ylikwn, se ameleia anqrwpwn poy aneptyjan drasthriothtes, me apotelesma na ekdhlwqoyn pyrkagies, xwris na to qeloyn bebaiws oi anqrwpoi, alla exoyn kai aytoi thn eyqynh toys. H sygkekrimenh energeia me tis prokhryjeis, asfalws, mporei na xarakthristei anqellhnikh, doqentos oti apo thn prwth stigmh eipame pws den kindyneyoyn egkatastaseis opoy diamenoyn toyristes. Den teqhkan se kindyno opoiadhpote stigmh. Oyte twra kindyneyoyn. Den yparxei logos, dhladh, kapoios na fygei apo th Samo h apo allh perioxh ths Elladas, epeidh kindyneyei. Sebasth h epilogh toy na fygei, efoson to epiqymei. Kaneis den mporei na ton empodisei. Alla, diabebaiwsame kai epanalambanw ayth th diabebaiwsh, oti oydeis episkepths ths xwras mas, oydeis toyristas kindyneyei sthn Ellada.

KAPPOS: Qelw na katalhjw sto ejhs aplo: An synartate h aposynartate th mia diatypwsh me thn allh; Dhladh, an qewreite oti yparxei sxesh anamesa se ayto poy xarakthrisate anqellhnikh energeia, me ton tropo me ton opoio ekdhlwnontai kapoies pyrkagies.

REPPAS: Gia ta qemata ayta qa ekdwsoyn apofaseis ta dikasthria, oxi egw. An exoyme ypoch mas tis apofaseis aytes, qa mporoyme na kanoyme analoges ektimhseis kai xarakthrismoys.

Sas eyxaristw.

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