Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-06-03

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 3 Maioy 1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, shmera egine mia megalh syskech sto Megaro Majimoy, ypo ton Prwqypoyrgo, sthn opoia phran meros oi ypoyrgoi Amynas kai Ejwterikwn kai ap' oti plhroforoymai syzhthqhkan eqnika qemata, metajy twn opoiwn kai to qema twn S-300. Exete na mas peite kati gi ayto;

REPPAS: Otan sas enhmerwsa gia thn prwth synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me tis hgesies twn dyo ypoyrgeiwn, prin apo liges ebdomades, sas eixa anakoinwsei oti qa akoloyqhsei kai nea syskech, stis arxes Ioynioy. H syskech ayth egine shmera, htan programmatismenh apo arketo kairo. To periexomeno ths aforoyse qemata ejwterikhs kai amyntikhs politikhs. Syzhthsan o Prwqypoyrgos kai oi armodioi ypoyrgoi, me thn paroysia kai toy Arxhgoy twn Enoplwn Dynamewn ths xwras, olo to fasma twn qematwn ths amyntikhs politikhs, se syndyasmo me thn ejwterikh politikh, thn opoia akoloyqoyme. Qemata poy exoyn sxesh me to Kypriako, tis sxeseis Elladas-Toyrkias, thn ejelijh toy ejoplistikoy programmatos, th syzhthsh poy ginetai gia th nea domh toy NATO, tis prwtoboylies tis opoies exei analabei h Ellada, enocei kai ths Synodoy Koryfhs sth Megalh Bretania. Ola ayta ta qemata, ta opoia syzhthqhkan kata thn prohgoymenh synedriash, syzhthqhkan kai shmera. Mporoyme na poyme oti oloklhrwqhke aytos o kyklos twn syskecewn. Den yparxei kati kainoyrgio.

SOYRMELIDHS: Syzhthqhke to qema twn MOE kai poy brisketai ayth h istoria;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti h diadikasia ayth einai se ejelijh. Den exei oloklhrwqei o dialogos. Den exei prokycei symfwnia, den einai kati pros anakoinwsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti syzhthqhkan ola ayta ta qemata. Elhfqhsan kai kapoies apofaseis;

REPPAS: Eipa oti den yparxei kati kainoyrgio. Gnwrizete para poly kala oti h askoymenh ejwterikh kai amyntikh politikh paramenei ayth h opoia exei ejaggelqei kai sas einai gnwsth. Den allazei tipota. To oti antallassontai apoceis h lambanontai apofaseis gia epimeroys qemata h xeirismoys h taktikes kinhseis poy prepei na ginoyn, ayto einai logiko kai aytonohto. Sas eipa poia einai ta pedia epi twn opoiwn h Kybernhsh anaptyssei th drasthriothta ths, ayth thn periodo.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Syzhthqhke telika to qema twn S-300, poy skopeyei na parei h Kypriakh Kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Ayto einai ena qema poy exei apasxolhsei tis dyo Kybernhseis, Elladas kai Kyproy, sto plaisio ths synergasias toys. Gnwrizete poies einai oi qeseis mas gia to qema ayto. Den allazei tipota, oson afora thn topoqethsh mas.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Mallon den egina katanohtos. To qema twn S-300 syzhthqhke sto plaisio ths amyntikhs politikhs ths Elladas;

REPPAS: Einai ena qema, to opoio mas apasxolei, sto plaisio ths synergasias Elladas-Kyproy. Den afora qema amynas ths Elladas. Nomizw oti hmoyn poly safhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Xqes, eipate oti o k. Papoytshs prepei na kineitai se kapoia oria kai h Ekproswpos ths E.E. eipe oti oi Epitropoi einai politikoi andres kai oxi politikoi eynoyxoi. Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio;

REPPAS: Apanthsa gi` ayto, xqes. Ekana ena sxolio gia ton politiko poy symbainei na einai Epitropos. Kai s` aytes tis periptwseis, gnwrizete para poly kala oti yparxei mia ypoxrewsh na epifylassetai gia to orio entos toy opoioy prepei na kineitai o kaqe koinotikos paragontas. To orio ayto to qetei kai to gnwrizei o idios. Alla, h syzhthsh edw den einai gia to logo, alla gia ta oria toy logoy. Safws o kaqenas exei to dikaiwma na leei thn apoch toy, alla na kineitai entos oriwn ta opoia tiqentai. Egw, akribws, ekana proseggish kai sxolio epi toy qematos aytoy, anaferomenos sta oria.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oloi oi Epitropoi einai politika proswpa, anhkoyn se kommata, einai prwhn boyleytes, prwhn ypoyrgoi, prwhn Prwqypoyrgoi. Oloi aytoi einai politika proswpa. Giati gia sas yparxoyn oria;

REPPAS: Na meinete s` ayta ta opoia sas eipa kai parakalw na ta melethsete, otan qa ta exete sth diaqesh sas kai grapta gia na antilhfqeite ti akribws eipa.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ta melethsa.

REPPAS: Ayta ta opoia eipa shmera. Yparxei enas kanonas gia oloys toys koinotikoys paragontes. Kai opws kai xqes, etsi kai shmera, eimai safhs, milw gia ta oria kai den milw gia to dikaiwma toy na ekfrazei kapoios thn apoch toy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mono gia ton Epitropo ths Elladas yparxoyn oria; Eseis ta bazete, dhladh, ta oria;

REPPAS: Sas parapempw sthn apanthsh poy edwsa, h opoia kalyptei to erwthma poy qetete. Qa diabasete thn apanthsh meta kai qa deite oti sas kalyptei. Htan poly safhs kai sygkekrimenh h apanthsh poy edwsa.

SOYGLERHS: An katalaba kala, o k. Papoytshs gia na janamilhsei pleon gia ta eswterika ths xwras mas prepei na paraithqei; Toy apagoreyete na milaei apo edw kai pera;

REPPAS: Etsi eseis ermhneyete thn apanthsh poy edwsa prin;

SOYGLERHS: Bebaiws, otan eseis xqes eipate oti yparxoyn kapoia oria.

REPPAS: Kanete laqos, loipon. Sas kalw na diabasete thn apanthsh poy edwsa prin.

PAPAXRHSTOS: Epeidh den einai ejairetika safh ayta ta oria, mhpws mporeite na mas ta prosdiorisete; Na mas peite poy akribws mporei na kineitai o Epitropos; Gia na sas dieykolynw to kanw.

REPPAS: Antilambanomai oti to kanete gia na me dieykolynete! Sas eyxaristw gi` ayto prokatabolikws. Egw, omws, epeidh qelw na sas bohqhsw sto ergo sas, ekana mia dhlwsh kai shmera, h opoia einai para poly sygkekrimenh kai sas kalw na anatrejete ki eseis s` ayta poy eipa molis prin, prokeimenoy na bgalete ta symperasmata sas.

FILIPPAKOPOYLOS: Egw qa hqela na rwthsw, an o k. Papoytshs jeperase ta oria;

REPPAS: Apanthsa, xqes, gi` ayto.

MOYRTZHS: Den tiqetai politiko zhthma se sas, ws ekproswpoy Typoy, otan o k. Santer leei oti oi Epitropoi einai politika proswpa kai oxi eynoyxoi; Kai ena allo erwthma, poios exei qespisei aytoys toys kanones gia toys opoioys eseis milhsate;

REPPAS: Apanthsa gia ola ayta ta qemata, xqes, me leptomereies. Milhsa gia toys politikoys paragontes poy, bebaiws, exoyn to dikaiwma na ekfrazoyn eleyqera thn apoch toys. Eipa, xqes kai epanelaba shmera, oti yparxoyn oria ta opoia prosdiorizontai apo to rolo kai thn armodiothta poy exei kaqe paragontas. Oria exoyn oloi sto plaisio twn dikwn toys asxoliwn kai armodiothtwn Ta oria ayta, sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh, prepei na sas pw oti kata tropo eqimiko, an qelete, exoyn teqei apo thn idia thn E.E. Yparxei mia anafora sthn ypoxrewsh epifylajhs poy exoyn oi koinotikoi paragontes na kinoyntai entos kapoiwn oriwn. Ayta einai qemata ta opoia antimetwpisthkan. Ta syzhthsame. Sas parapempw sth dhlwsh poy ekana kai shmera, opote to qema ayto ekleise.

ELENOPOYLOS: To oti symfwna me th dhlwsh ths ekproswpoy ths Epitrophs fainetai na dieyrynontai kata poly ta oria, pws to sxoliazete;

REPPAS: Den kaname mia syzhthsh oriologias. Ayto to opoio epanelaba, einai oti to dikaiwma ths ekfrashs, gnwmhs einai aperioristo kai eleyqero. Kai xrhsimopoiw skopimws th lejh "aperioristo". Apo kei kai pera, opws eipa kai prin, o kaqenas, bebaiws, orizei ta oria entos twn opoiwn kineitai. Kai ta oria ayta orizontai analogws toy ajiwmatos poy exei h ths armodiothtas h opoia toy exei anateqei .

KIAOS: Pws qa xarakthrizate h pws qa perigrafate, me liges lejeis, thn katastash sto PASOK, kata thn opoia Ypoyrgoi , Epitropoi, melh Kentrikhs Epitrophs, boyleytes, prwhn Ypoyrgoi, stelexh, xrhsimopoioyn o enas gia ton allon barytates ekfraseis poy ftanoyn ews tis ybreis;

REPPAS: H eikona ayth adynatizei thn prospaqeia poy kanei h Kybernhsh prokeimenoy na epityxei toys eqnikhs shmasias stoxoys poy exei qesei enocei toy 21oy aiwna. Gnwrizete poly kala oti, apaiteitai h symbolh olwn twn politikwn kai koinwnikwn dynamewn, prokeimenoy h Ellada na katastei mia isxyrh xwra sto neo dieqnes periballon. Otan oi dynameis enos kommatos den einai syntonismenes, alla diaspasmenes h dinoyn thn entypwsh oti einai diaspasmenes, antilambanesqe pws dhmioyrgeitai mia eikona h opoia den eynoei thn prospaqeia ths Kybernhshs. Menw shmera se mia epishmansh: oti h Kybernhsh sthrizetai sth megalh pleiochfia toy synoloy twn koinoboyleytikwn dynamewn toy PASOK. Etsi noiwqei oti exei tis dynatothtes na proxwrhsei kai na oloklhrwsei to ergo poy ths aneqese o ellhnikos laos, xwris talanteyseis kai ypoxwrhseis. Apo thn allh, omws, den mporw na agnohsw oti fainomena ta opoia ekdhlwnontai thn teleytaia periodo, exoyn tis dysmeneis epiptwseis toys sthn prospaqeia thn opoia kanei h Kybernhsh, prokeimenoy na epityxei aytoys toys megaloys stoxoys. Ayto einai mia alhqeia.

KIAOS: Me bash aytes tis diapistwseis poy kanete, me poio tropo mporoyn na jeperastoyn ta empodia, na diorqwqei h katastash, na epanelqei se prohgoymenh poy htan prin apo xronia, en pash periptwsei.

REPPAS: Me tis dhmokratikes kai syllogikes diadikasies oi opoies anqoyn sto PASOK. Kai bebaiws o kaqenas exei to meridio ths dikhs toy eyqynhs, prokeimenoy na symbalei apo th dikh toy skopia, wste na katastei dynato me th synenwsh olwn twn dynamewn , me ton apolyto syntonismo, na exoyme ta arista apotelesmata sto koino ergo poy mas aneqese o ellhnikos laos.

KACAMPELHS: Dhladh, k. Ypoyrge, na mhn perimenoyme apo ton Prwqypoyrgo kai Proedro toy PASOK prwtoboylies gia thn antimetwpish kai yperbash ayths ths dixastikhs katastashs.

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos exei analabei sto parelqon, analambanei kai qa synexisei na analambanei prwtoboylies kai ola ta katallhla metra, prokeimenoy na beltiwsei akomh perissotero to epipedo sto opoio kineitai h Kybernhsh, alla kai to Kinhma mas. Giati apo koinoy qa prepei na antimetwpisoyme tis megales proklhseis poy exoyme mprosta mas.

KANELLAKHS: Qa hqela ena sxolio gia th nhocia poy anagkasthke na ypoblhqei to ellhniko emporiko karabi anoikta ths Kyproy, apo bretaniko elikoptero, kai gia th drash kataskopwn sto nhsi.

REPPAS: Yparxei mia parejhghsh. Den prokeitai peri nhocias. Prepei na pw, oti pragmati zhthqhke apo ton epikefalhs toy ellhnikoy emporikoy ploioy h adeia prokeimenoy na diejaxqei mia askhsh ereynas kai diaswshs. H adynamia synennohshs dhmioyrghse mia parejhghsh , kaqoti oi men qewrhsan oti exoyn ayth thn egkrish , prokeimenoy na proboyn se mia oionei askhsh, ayths ths morfhs, h de allh pleyra h opoia den antelhfqh ti einai ayto akribws to opoio ejelisseto , qewrhse pws yfistatai mia nhocia. Doqhkan oi ejhghseis. Prokeitai gia mia parejhghsh. Den yparxei pleon qema.

KANELLAKHS: Ma, to qema htan gia ejarthmata twn pyraylwn S-300, k. Ypoyrge.

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti ola ayta aforoyn mia filologia h opoia anaptyxqhke, me bash ayth thn parejhghsh. Lyqhke h parejhghsh , to qema ayto exei lhjei.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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