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U.S. Department of State Daily Press Briefing #56, 98-05-07

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From: The Department of State Foreign Affairs Network (DOSFAN) at <http://www.state.gov>


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U.S. Department of State
Daily Press Briefing

I N D E X

Thursday, May 7, 1998

Briefer: James B. Foley

MIDDLE EAST PEACE PROCESS
1,3		Secretary Albright's telephone conversation today with PM
		  Netanyahu
1		Ambassador Ross to leave for Israel today
2		Secretary Albright's telephone conversation with leaders of
		  Jewish organizations
3		Current US Administration a great friend of Israel
4		Details of Ambassador Ross' itinerary remain to be
		  determined
5		US ideas constitute an integrated package
5		Purpose of meeting in Washington next week
5		US believes breakthrough is very close
6		Israel's security cannot be compromised
6-7,9		First Lady's comments on Palestinian state

IRAN 6 State Department report details support for terrorism 6 US hopeful for change in international policies

IRAQ 8 Amb. Butler's letter on Iraqi cooperation 8 UN Security Council action necessary to change sanctions

GREECE 9 No PKK office in Greece: before, now or ever

KOSOVO 9-11 President's comments on Kosovo belonging to Serbia 10 Status to be determined through negotiations among the parties 11 Russian Deputy Prime Minister in Belgrade yesterday 12 No real progress seen yet as May 9 deadline approaches 12 G-8 Foreign Ministers to meet in London on May 9

CHINA 11 President Clinton's upcoming trip/ visit of Chinese Deputy Foreign Minister

PAKISTAN 11 Death of Catholic bishop 11 US condemns death sentences for peaceful expression of beliefs

COLOMBIA 13 Arrest of major drug trafficker May 6 with help from DEA 13 Killings by paramilitary groups condemned by US


U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
DAILY PRESS BRIEFING

DPB #56

THURSDAY, MAY 7, 1998, 1:25 P.M.

(ON THE RECORD UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED)

MR. FOLEY: Good afternoon. I apologize for keeping you through the lunch hour, but it's been a busy day. I don't have any announcements, so I'd be happy to go right to your questions.

QUESTION: What can you tell us about the return visit of Dennis Ross to the region? And also, I understand the Secretary spoke by phone with Prime Minister Netanyahu. Anything on that?

MR. FOLEY: Well, yes, they did speak by phone. Secretary Albright spoke with Prime Minister Netanyahu from London this morning, and the Prime Minister requested that she agree to send Ambassador Ross to Israel now, immediately, in order to see whether it were possible to bridge the remaining gaps and to hold a successful meeting next week in London to launch permanent status negotiations.

The Secretary decided to respond positively, and hopes that these final days before next week will see progress that can make it possible to hold the meeting in Washington, based on acceptance of the US ideas that we presented in London last week.

So we remain, as I said yesterday, hopeful that it will be possible to achieve a breakthrough and to launch historic permanent status negotiations, which as you know are supposed to be completed by May 4 of next year. So time is urgent. We regard this as a strategic opportunity not to be missed because the clock is ticking, and we're less than one year from the agreed date of the conclusion of the permanent status negotiations.

QUESTION: Is Ross going today?

MR. FOLEY: He's going today, yes.

QUESTION: What are his marching orders? Can he negotiate, or just explain?

MR. FOLEY: Well, as the Secretary indicated, I believe there was a statement put out in London by Spokesman Rubin this morning that we're hoping to achieve agreement based on acceptance of the American ideas that were presented in London -- which, I might add, are merely refinements of the ideas that we've had on the table.

We have really tried to work very creatively in this refinement process to take account of both sides' views, both sides' needs. We believe that we have come up with a compromise that ought to be acceptable to both sides. But Ambassador Ross, within that framework though, will continue to explore any refinements that might help us to hold the meeting next week and, as I said, to launch permanent status negotiations.

QUESTION: Just a logistical question. Ross won't get there until Friday, and then it's Jewish Sabbath, and the Israeli Cabinet meets on Sunday, which is when you're likely to get a decision on what Netanyahu will or will not do. Does the lateness of the timing make Monday still a possibility, or would you be willing to put it off for a week until the President gets back, but still have the ceremonial opening.

MR. FOLEY: We regard it still as a real possibility, provided that agreement can be achieved prior to next week.

QUESTION: But is it possible that it might be put off a week if need be?

MR. FOLEY: Well, we're still focused on our offer of a meeting in Washington next Monday.

QUESTION: I say a week because after Monday, the President is gone.

MR. FOLEY: That's right.

QUESTION: Did the Secretary have a phone call last night with the leaders of major Jewish organizations?

MR. FOLEY: I believe she had a phone conversation with the conference group; that's my understanding. I don't have a read-out of that discussion that she had, though.

QUESTION: Well, how much heat is the Administration feeling from Jewish groups and other politicians - politicians in the United States - over this issue?

MR. FOLEY: Well, I couldn't address the private conversation that she had with some of the leaders that you mentioned yesterday. I'm not privy to that conversation; it was a private one. But I'm certain that the Secretary took the opportunity to explain clearly what the United States is trying to achieve here and our view that our goals are intended to help promote the peace upon which Israel's security ultimately depends. I'm sure she also took the opportunity to reiterate the fact that, as President Clinton very categorically stated yesterday, this is not about putting pressure on Israel. This is about peace. This is about the United States trying to play a helpful role to bring two parties that are far apart together on common ground that can permit them to launch permanent status negotiations.

QUESTION: Did the Administration give Congress a heads-up, or any members of Congress a heads-up, on its strategy before the Secretary made her statement in London?

MR. FOLEY: I believe Secretary Albright has been in touch with congressional leaders. I can't tell you whether she had detailed phone calls prior to the meetings in London. I'd have to check that to see if I could get that for you. But in regard to your question about some of the criticisms that we've seen -- especially yesterday -- of that nature, specifically referring to some of the correspondence that came the Administration's way from the Hill, I would like to point out that we believe it would be very difficult to suggest that this Administration has not been a good friend of Israel.

I think that it's very doubtful that many in Israel would believe such a claim. Opinion polls in Israel demonstrate that this Administration is viewed as perhaps the friendliest Administration to Israel over the last 50 years. Certainly every Administration, both Republican and Democrat, over the past 50 years, since the time of President Truman, has believed that peace in the Middle East is in the interest of the United States, is a transcendent interest of the United States. So that's what we're pursuing.

Of course the Madrid Conference which brought the parties to the same table - not only the Israelis and the Palestinians, but all the regional neighbors of Israel to the table for the first time - was the work of the Bush Administration. This Administration is continuing in that bipartisan spirit to attempt to carry forward the Oslo process launched in 1993, agreed to by the parties. I think that letter in particular ignored the fact that we have been engaged in, really, the most intense diplomatic efforts to take these wide gaps separating the parties and try to find common ground that will permit them to achieve that which they agreed - which is to make a final peace between them.

So, as I said yesterday, we remain hopeful. I think the very fact that Prime Minister Netanyahu has asked Ambassador Ross to return is a hopeful sign. We believe that our ideas are solid ones that will advance the cause of peace, and that if there's a will, there's a way. We remain hopeful that a way will be found to launch historic permanent status negotiations next week in Washington.

QUESTION: After the Secretary spoke with the Prime Minister and decided to send Ross to the region, would you say that she got strong signs from him that Monday looks like it's going to come off, it's a good prognosis?

MR. FOLEY: I don't have a specific read-out of their telephone call, which will remain a private call. I'm not aware that they achieved a breakthrough during that conversation. The very purpose of the Prime Minister asking Ambassador Ross to return is to try to achieve such a breakthrough.

QUESTION: But would you say the signs that she got from him during that conversation were indicative that Monday would come off; that the likelihood of Monday happening was a strong one?

MR. FOLEY: We remain hopeful.

QUESTION: Netanyahu Spokesman Bar Ilan has said it's unlikely that Netanyahu would be here. It sounds sort of ominous.

MR. FOLEY: But at the same time, his boss, Prime Minister Netanyahu, has asked Ambassador Ross to go to the region, specifically to try to bridge the remaining gaps so that an historic meeting can take place in Washington next week.

QUESTION: You're confident that the Israeli mind is still open on this?

MR. FOLEY: We believe the Israeli mind is still open, certainly. I don't think we've heard the final word on that. That reported statement is belied by the invitation to Ambassador Ross to go to the region.

QUESTION: Would you say they may be playing to two different audiences?

MR. FOLEY: I couldn't comment on that. The fact of the matter is Dennis Ross is going, and he's going to meet with Prime Minister Netanyahu. We are hopeful that we can help achieve that which Prime Minister Netanyahu has urged us.

As the President stated so clearly yesterday, the parties are at loggerheads. They made agreements in Oslo; each side accuses the other of not faithfully implementing those agreements. The United States has tried, as a faithful and friendly and neutral facilitator, to try to find common ground here.

I would note, also in reference to some of the criticisms that were leveled yesterday, that our ideas offer a real compromise. Compromise means that the sides give up some maximalist gains. I don't think that anyone can argue with the fact that the Palestinians themselves found it difficult to agree or to accept the American ideas. I think it's generally known that our ideas do not come close to what the Palestinians actually wanted or felt that they were entitled to.

So we have gone the extra mile to try to find common ground; and Ambassador Ross is literally going to go the extra mile, starting this evening, on his trip to Israel.

QUESTION: Jim, is he planning to meet with Palestinians, as well, on his trip?

MR. FOLEY: I'm not aware that that is specifically planned. I believe, since this was a decision that was just made this morning, that details of his itinerary remain to be determined. Certainly, he's going to see Prime Minister Netanyahu; that's the purpose of his visit. My understanding is that Chairman Arafat is not in the PA areas at the moment.

QUESTION: Just for the record, what in the American ideas did the Palestinians find difficult to accept?

MR. FOLEY: Well, you're not going to draw me out, Judd, as cleverly as you may have asked the question, coming at it from a different angle today. But we have not discussed publicly the nature of our private diplomatic proposals.

QUESTION: Well, we're not getting into specifics --

MR. FOLEY: I can't get into specifics.

QUESTION: Well, I mean, in a general area, did they find it difficult to accept the American -

(Laughter.)

-- no, well, there are several aspects to this. There's not only the question of how much territory; there's a question of going --

MR. FOLEY: Right, and that is an important point - that there are several aspects, there are many elements of our package. We've always found it erroneous to single out a single aspect when, in fact, this is an integrated package. We're talking about, as you know, parallel steps to be implemented simultaneously by both sides so that each side's requirements can be met and they can go forward together in implementing their commitments to each other.

QUESTION: Aside from the fact that I did try to trick you and you didn't bite, the other part of the question is beginning permanent status talks, which the Palestinians had objected to until interim - all that was out of the way, whereas the Israelis had been talking about going to it. Did the Palestinians have difficulty accepting that part of it?

MR. FOLEY: Well, the purpose of a meeting in Washington next week is three-fold. We would look to that meeting to first acknowledge that agreement has been reached on the parallel implementation of further redeployment and security obligations. We would most notably expect such a meeting to herald the launching of permanent status negotiations.

But thirdly, in addressing your point specifically, we would hope that that meeting would also mark an attempt -- and hopefully a successful closure -- on the outstanding interim issues, which include, as you know, the airport, the seaport, safe passage and a Gaza industrialist state. There is remaining work on these issues. But we believe that if we can achieve this breakthrough - and we're really not far from achieving it; we're very close, actually -we can settle the interim issues and we can make tangible for the Palestinian people themselves some demonstrable improvements in their own lives and in their ability to be responsible for their own affairs. We can address specific Israeli security needs and requirements, and we can move forward together to address what are going to be the tough permanent status issues that we have a little less than a year now to resolve.

QUESTION: Regarding the terrorist threat to Israel, it was revealed this morning by Iranian resistance sources that upwards to $50 million was being disbursed by Iran to the Mullah Akhtari, the Ambassador from Iran to Damascus. This money was then being disbursed to terrorist groups in Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and in Palestine. Does this Administration see that this, in fact - that Iran is the principal source of funds, instigator, and that this matter has to be dealt with for there to be true peace?

MR. FOLEY: Well, if you were present last week for our briefings on and introduction of the annual report on the Patterns of Global Terrorism, that report made clear the fact that Iran continues activity in support of terrorist groups.

We've taken note favorably of President Khatemi's recent commitment to combat terrorism, his denunciation of terrorism against men, women and children. We hope that we will see a change in specific Iranian activities in that regard.

On the issue of security, though, you'll recall that we have called security the sine qua non of the peace process; that there cannot be peace without security. And Israel, in particular, has to feel confident of its own security in going forward and making the hard decisions in terms of what is required for a final, comprehensive peace settlement. Security is an element that cannot be compromised, and our concerns on that issue are unabated. In the context of the American ideas that we put on the table, hoping to launch permanent status negotiations, is included specific steps on the security front that would be part of the parallel implementation process that I spoke about.

QUESTION: It was alleged - Jim, just let me follow this briefly -- that Khatemi was spending more on terrorism and the increased levels of terrorist activities in Iran. That was alleged this morning; are you aware of that?

MR. FOLEY: I've not seen that report. I think that we are hopeful that the change that President Khatemi indisputably represents inside Iran will represent, indeed, a change in Iranian policies on the international front. We look forward to the day when Iran rejoins the community of nations on that basis. We look forward to a different kind of relationship with Iran on that basis.

QUESTION: Mrs. Clinton said that the US favors the establishment of a Palestinian state. Has our policy changed in this regard; and if not, could you restate it for us, please?

MR. FOLEY: My understanding is she said no such thing at all. I believe she made some personal comments, and I think the White House issued a statement in that regard. But there's been no change in US policy towards that issue.

QUESTION: What do you think the impact might be of the First Lady of the United States making that kind of a comment during a period of shall we say great sensitivity and certainly a critical point in the negotiations?

MR. FOLEY: I couldn't speculate on the impact.

QUESTION: Is it a mistake, though? I mean, did she - was she not thinking when she said that? I mean, I can only believe that in this context, she was certainly aware of what was going on and that if she made a comment in this regard, it was intended for some purpose.

MR. FOLEY: Well, the First Lady, I think, is universally respected -- not only in this country, but around the world -- for her humanitarian work and for what she represents on behalf of people - of women and children -- in this country, as I said, and around the world. She can only make positive contributions to peace and mutual understanding around the world. You're not going to hear any criticism from me on that front.

QUESTION: But I wasn't - I mean, that was not the question. The question was, given the fact that she's a person of stature and a person of awareness --

MR. FOLEY: Well, Carol, I see what you're getting at. She's an eminent personality, respected around the world, and she's certainly entitled to her views.

QUESTION: Was the Administration sending a message with this comment?

MR. FOLEY: I think, as I indicated in my response to Betsy Steuart's comment, which I think did not accurately reflect what the First Lady said, that they were comments made in a personal capacity. The White House has issued a statement indicating such and that Administration policy has not changed.

QUESTION: That's two different things. She did or did not refer to a Palestinian state, or it was a personal remark. Which is it?

MR. FOLEY: The question had to do with setting Administration policy.

QUESTION: She was not expressing Administration policy.

MR. FOLEY: That's right.

QUESTION: But she did talk about the creation of a Palestinian state.

MR. FOLEY: I've not seen her transcript of her remarks. But I understand that she did make comments on the status of a Palestinian state.

QUESTION: But Carol's question - I mean, if I could follow up on Carol's question, do you think it's understood all over the world that she does not speak for US policy? I mean, it's the First Lady. That's the question of the impact.

MR. FOLEY: Well, the First Lady certainly has a moral voice that does, we hope, have a profound impact around the world. To the extent that she expressed the solidarity of the American people with people all around the world, I think that's only to be praised; it's not unusual.

In terms of specific Administration policy, though, on the issue of the final status of the Palestinian entity, that's not something that has even been determined. We're very earnestly hoping that our ideas will bear fruit in the coming days; that we will be able to launch permanent status negotiations. Certainly, the specific, legal disposition of the Palestinian entity will be decided in the permanent status negotiations.

QUESTION: Jim, on Iraq, have you seen the reports of Ambassador Butler's report to the Security Council, which I'm paraphrasing - but essentially, that Iraq has cooperated in the inspections of all sites?

MR. FOLEY: It is up to UNSCOM to assess whether Iraq is providing sufficient information, as established under United Nations Security Council Resolution 1137. We, the United States, have acknowledged Iraq's cooperation with regard to the inspection at the eight presidential sites -- the one-time inspection only.

But as Chairman Butler's letter that you refer to makes clear, there remain some areas of access and cooperation that are either unsatisfactory or untested. We will support UNSCOM in demanding full cooperation in all of these areas. We also note that providing access to UNSCOM does not meet the fundamental task before Iraq on weapons of mass destruction. That task involves disclosure of its weapons programs and disarmament. It remains Iraq's responsibility to disclose fully its weapons of mass destruction and missile programs to UNSCOM. The debate over access to sites and to people in Iraq has arisen only because Iraq has refused to offer such disclosure willingly.

In terms of your specific question, Chairman Butler has just made this letter available. It's something we're going to study with our colleagues in the Security Council.

QUESTION: In light of that letter, will the United States go along with a partial lifting of some sanctions - for example, free movement of Iraqi officials?

MR. FOLEY: Well, you are raising the very issue I said we are going to study in light of his letter. We haven't' made any determination; this just came out this morning.

QUESTION: And procedurally, would the United States have a veto over even a partial lifting of sanctions?

MR. FOLEY: Well, my understanding is those sanctions are all governed by Security Council resolutions. The Security Council would have to act with unanimity to change its resolutions.

QUESTION: Is it your understanding that the travel ban has not been lifted, then, despite this --

MR. FOLEY: My understanding is that this was passed last fall under a Security Council resolution. It would take Security Council action to reverse it. But I'd be happy to check the record to see whether there's any flexibility involved in the original Security Council resolution.

QUESTION: Back to the First Lady's comments, briefly. She actually said that the Palestinians should have the right to live in a Palestinian state eventually. You don't think at all that this could aggravate the Israelis - in fact, incite them and antagonize them in any way, at a time when they're being asked by the US to come to Washington and make a decision before Monday?

MR. FOLEY: Well, a lot of people have an opinion about that issue that they evince privately. If you read our newspapers, you see commentators speaking out on that issue -- and certainly in Israel and throughout the world, so that's not unusual. I can only speak to what the US Government position is, and it remains unchanged.

QUESTION: But you said he is a high-profile figure. She's the First Lady of the United States, and she's saying that the Palestinians have a right to statehood, to a state. And at a time when the Israelis are backing off of giving up more West Bank land, you don't think that this is at all coming at a bad time or could antagonize them or aggravate them?

MR. FOLEY: Look, the question has been asked five, six, seven times already. I've stated the Administration policy.

QUESTION: So it's no aggravation to this at all. This is fine for her to make these comments. It adds to the process at hand.

MR. FOLEY: Well, I've rarely seen such a demonstration of a loaded question that sort of attempts to put words in my mouth. I've answered the question: the First Lady is entitled to speak her mind, and we're not going to challenge that.

QUESTION: On the issue of the Kurdish office in Athens and your consultations with the Greek Government, do you have anything new to report on that?

MR. FOLEY: Yes, the Greek Foreign Ministry has told our Embassy in Athens that there has never been, is not and never will be an office of the PKK in Greece, despite the announcement by a self-proclaimed PKK representative in Athens last week that such an opening is imminent. We welcome this pledge, which is in keeping with Greece's international commitments on counter- terrorism.

QUESTION: Speaking of possible misstatements, President Clinton said yesterday --

MR. FOLEY: I challenge that categorization.

QUESTION: President Clinton said yesterday that Serbia is legally - excuse me, Kosovo is legally part of Serbia, and that the solution there is for the Serbs to give the Kosovar Albanians some measure of self-government and decision-making within the framework of Serbia. Until now, the US position has been quite clear that this should be done within the framework of Yugoslavia. But you've avoided saying it should be done within the framework of Serbia.

MR. FOLEY: The second part of the quote I have seen - framework of Serbia. The first part about legally within that nation, I'm not sure he said. I'd have to check the record on that.

QUESTION: He said, "The Serbs don't want to give up a big part of their country, which they believe and is legally part of their country."

MR. FOLEY: The province of Kosovo has, of course, changed status several times. It was an autonomous republic within the FRY, former Yugoslavia actually, before the Balkan wars that broke up the country. Milosevic then shifted its status and attached it to Serbia.

Our view, as has been stated, is that we believe a solution to the problems of Kosovo must be found within existing international borders and through unconditional dialogue to develop enhanced self-administration for Kosovo that respects the rights of all, regardless of ethnicity. The President spoke to that yesterday.

The ultimate responsibility for reaching accommodation lies with authorities in Belgrade and the Kosovar Albanian leadership in Pristina. But the international community also has an important role to play in facilitating negotiations.

I think the important point is that a wide range of possible arrangements exists within these parameters which the United States could support. It is up to the parties to decide through negotiation on the details of Kosovo autonomy. I believe the President did not mean to foreclose any options on this. In fact, what we have struggled to make clear is that no option should be foreclosed.

We regard this as a matter for the parties to decide themselves. President Milosevic has tried to close this off. We, in response, have not suggested, for example, that the ultimate disposition must be within the framework of the FRY. We've simply stated we believe this is a matter that should be negotiated, that should not be prejudged in advance of the negotiations, as President Milosevic has attempted to do thus far.

QUESTION: Excuse me, this is not the First Lady, this is the President. And the Serbs have already --

MR. FOLEY: It's not the first - what, I'm sorry?

QUESTION: This is not the First Lady, this is the President speaking. The Serbs have already jumped on this statement as saying that he is precisely expressing their position, which is that Kosovo is and always will be part of Serbia and that the only solution is in the framework of Serbia. So was the President expressing the US position or not?

MR. FOLEY: Well, our view, as I said, is that there is a wide range of possible arrangements within the parameters I discussed that the US could support. We believe it is up to the parties to decide through negotiation on the details of Kosovo autonomy. I'd refer you to the White House if you're looking for further clarification.

QUESTION: (Inaudible) announcement about preparations for President Clinton's visit to China in general terms.

MR. FOLEY: Yes.

QUESTION: And also, I heard that the Deputy Chinese Foreign Minister was here in the last few days, and he met with some American officials in preparation for this visit. Could you please give us something more about his meetings?

MR. FOLEY: I'd have to take the question; I don't have information for you right now.

QUESTION: On Pakistan, do you have a position on their blasphemy law, which has been in the spotlight lately because of the death sentence handed down to one individual and the death of a Roman Catholic priest, who was a stalwart opponent of the law, just yesterday?

MR. FOLEY: Yes, we very much regret the needless death of Bishop Joseph. We've only received preliminary reports of his death from our Consulate in Lahore, and we're seeking more information. In recent days Bishop Joseph has spoken publicly against Pakistan's blasphemy law and against the recent death sentence imposed on a Christian, Mr. Ayub Masih, under that law.

We deplore and condemn the imposition of a sentence of death on an individual for the peaceful expression of his beliefs. In the past, we have repeatedly called upon the Government of Pakistan to repeal the blasphemy law, which contributes to a climate of religious intolerance. We take this opportunity to do so once again.

QUESTION: Back on Kosovo, is Felipe Gonzalez - does the United States believe that Milosevic is prepared to now accept Felipe Gonzalez as a mediator on Kosovo?

MR. FOLEY: Well, you saw that the Russian Deputy Foreign Minister was in Belgrade, I believe, yesterday, Minister Ivanov. I believe he made some comments to the press, following his meetings in Belgrade, that indicated that he saw signs of possible flexibility in this regard. That would be, certainly, a welcome development if it's true. We'll want to see if it's borne out by the facts. That is one of several elements that the Contact Group has called for, including a de-escalation of the crisis, a pull-back of the forces of repression, an unconditional dialogue and, as you indicate, international participation in negotiations between the Serb authorities in Belgrade and the Kosovar Albanians.

QUESTION: So you haven't gotten any concrete word on this?

MR. FOLEY: No, we have not.

QUESTION: Also on Kosovo, there was a deadline on May 9 for additional sanctions.

MR. FOLEY: Yes.

QUESTION: Have you seen any progress or --

MR. FOLEY: Well, it's a similar question; we have not. Minister Ivanov's visit may have elicited an indication of a willingness to accept the role of the OSCE and Felipe Gonzalez and, we hope, international participation in negotiations. We don't have that confirmed in any way. So we've not seen real progress on that front; we've not seen real progress. On the contrary, we see an escalation of FRY deployments in Kosovo that bode ill for future events there. And as I said, we've not seen any move towards unconditional dialogue between Belgrade and the Kosovar Albanians. So the signs don't look good.

On the other hand, as you indicate, May 9 was a deadline that the Contact Group agreed to in Rome. That's just a few days away. Foreign ministers will be in London in the context of G-8 meetings, and my understanding is they will convene separately on the Kosovo issue. It's Thursday; it's only two days, therefore, to the May 9 deadline. I would fully expect that they're going to be taking the confirming or implementing decision to impose the investment ban, as they agreed in Rome.

QUESTION: Is there a date for the Contact Group meeting in Rome? I mean in London?

MR. FOLEY: Well, I believe that the Foreign Ministers will convene on the margins of the G-8 meeting in London on Saturday.

QUESTION: Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday or --

MR. FOLEY: On Saturday.

QUESTION: Pardon?

MR. FOLEY: On Saturday.

QUESTION: Oh, this Saturday?

MR. FOLEY: Yes, yes.

QUESTION: The same as the deadline?

MR. FOLEY: Same as the deadline, yes.

QUESTION: Okay, sorry.

QUESTION: On Colombia, the Colombian justice increased the sentences for the Rodriguez-Orejella brothers - the Cali cartel leaders. What is the message that the United States Government gets from this new action in the Colombian justice?

MR. FOLEY: Well, I'm not aware - you said they've increased the sentences.

QUESTION: Increased the sentences, yes.

MR. FOLEY: I'm not aware of that story. I am aware of the fact that the Colombian Government has arrested yesterday a major drug trafficker, Mr. Luis Reynaldo Murcia Sierra. We congratulate the Colombian National Police on the capture of this significant trafficker.

Murcia is the head of a major Bogota-based cocaine trafficking organization responsible for the shipment of multiple 100-plus kilo loads through the Caribbean to the United States. He was arrested in the early morning of May 6, yesterday, in a joint operation by the CNP - the Colombian National Police - and the DEA. This unit of the CNP, which is a special investigative unit, has received specialized training and support from the United States. It had identified Murcia as the source of a 476-kilo shipment of cocaine, which was seized in Puerto Rico on January 15.

After the arrest, the CNP served warrants on and seized 31 properties owned by Murcia, including a $2 million Bogota apartment, under Colombia's Asset Forfeiture Law. Three of Murcia's associates were also arrested. His case will be handled by a prosecutor assigned to the special investigative unit, who has also received specialized training from the United States.

Again, I'm not familiar with this other sentencing issue, but we'll take the question and see if we have an answer for you.

QUESTION: Another question about human rights. Is there any comment about human rights violations for the killing by paramilitary groups of children and civilians this week in Colombia?

MR. FOLEY: We condemn such killings by paramilitary groups. I don't have the details; I had those yesterday. Perhaps we can get that for you afterwards. But this was a horrendous crime that we resolutely condemn. We call for a full investigation and the prosecution of those responsible.

QUESTION: This is a follow-up to the previous question. When you say this arrest was the result of a joint operation, the CNP and DEA, did DEA agents participate in the arrest?

MR. FOLEY: I can't tell you whether they were actually present, but they had worked together with the CNP.

QUESTION: Thank you.

MR. FOLEY: Thank you. (The briefing concluded at 1: 55 P.M.)


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