Greek Government Press Briefing, 11-06-01

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Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 1 Ioynioy 2011

Ariqmos Deltioy: 335222657

Ekdosh 1

BRIEFING(010611)

KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 1 Ioynioy 2011

Kalo meshmeri kai kalo mhna se oloys mas.

Ena xrono meta thn chfish toy ``Kallikrath'', mias pragmatikhs epanastashs sto pedio ths apokentrwshs, ths perifereiakhs aytodioikhshs kai ths organwshs toy kratoys eimaste se qesh na milhsoyme me stoixeia gia tis megales tomes poy efere sthn topikh aytodioikhsh h shmantikotath ayth metarryqmish, poy exei sxesh kai me th leitoyrgia toy epitelikoy kratoys apo toyde kai sto ejhs.

O ``Kallikraths'' hdh apo toys prwtoys mhnes ths efarmoghs toy ejasfalise ta esoda kai thn kratikh xrhmatodothsh twn organismwn topikhs aytodioikhshs poy yperkalyptoyn tis dapanes gia th leitoyrgia toys: 4 dis eyrw esoda gia toys Dhmoys kai 670 ekatommyria eyrw gia tis Perifereies, me dapanes synolika 3,8 dis eyrw gia toys Dhmoys kai 582 ekatommyria eyrw gia tis Perifereies. Malista oi dapanes aytes symperilambanoyn to kostos ejyphrethshs toy daneismoy toys poy einai ena shmantiko zhthma. Taytoxrona ejasfalisthkan synolikes ejoikonomhseis 1 dis 200 ekatommyriwn eyrw, mia ejoikonomhsh ths tajhs toy 25% s' enan molis xrono efarmoghs.

Ta apotelesmata ayths ths neas arxitektonikhs ths aytodioikhshs kai ths apokentrwmenhs dioikhshs katesthsan efikta xarh stis megales tomes poy efere o ``Kallikraths'': Th meiwsh twn OTA etsi opws egine h sygxwneysh toys, th diadikasia sygxwneysewn kai synenwsewn twn nomikwn proswpwn kai epixeirhsewn se pososto panw apo 75%. Ayta ta stoixeia apo mona toys dinoyn th megalh ejoikonomhsh, th megalh ejorqologistikh prospaqeia poy egine kai apedwse telika amesa sth leitoyrgia ths topikhs aytodioikhshs.

Thn idia stigmh o ``Kallikraths'' eishgage kai empedwse ena neo systhma diafaneias oson afora sth xrhmatodothsh kai th leitoyrgia twn organismwn topikhs aytodioikhshs, epanaqemeliwnontas qesmika me rizikes allages th leitoyrgia ths topikhs aytodioikhshs sth xwra.

Xarakthristika, ta stoixeia poy anaferame proerxontai apo thn Kentrikh Bash Dedomenwn poy parexei th dynatothta gia akribh kai egkyra stoixeia, poy afhnoyn sto parelqon tis adiafaneis kai anapotelesmatikes diadikasies me ta gnwsta apotelesmata poy gnwrisame kai zhsame oloi.

Esoda, dapanes kai diadikasies ypagontai se elegxo poy empedwnoyn thn empistosynh toy polith apenanti sto kratos kai se mia topikh aytodioikhsh poy leitoyrgei gia na prosferei pragmatika ygieis, apotelesmatikes kai xwris spatalh yphresies kai oxi ws ena pedio anaptyjhs poikilwn morfwn diaplokhs kai mikrwn h megalwn symferontwn.

Sto plaisio ths idias megalhs prospaqeias entassetai kai mia seira apo anaptyjiakes prwtoboylies poy eisagoyme, opws h katartish enos ``Symfwnoy Reystothtas'' metajy ths Eyrwpaikhs Trapezas Ependysewn kai toy Ellhnikoy Dhmosioy ycoys 1 dis eyrw, gia to 2011, gia th xorhghsh xamhlotokwn daneiwn se mikromesaies epixeirhseis kai se organismoys topikhs aytodioikhshs, opws anakoinwqhke xqes.

To eidiko kaqestws ths epixeirhmatikothtas twn newn sto plaisio toy neoy ependytikoy nomoy, synolikoy ycoys 150 ekatommyriwn eyrw, to opoio qa dexetai ependytika sxedia apo thn 1h Ioylioy toy 2011 kai gia ena dimhno, prokeimenoy na tonwsoyme thn epixeirhmatikothta twn newn. Aytes oi prwtoboylies apoteloyn stoxeymenes draseis gia th dhmioyrgia enisxysewn me stoxo ena sygxrono, ygies kai ejwstrefes anaptyjiako montelo, poy qa dinei pnoh sthn ellhnikh epixeirhmatikothta kai thn oikonomia, makria apo streblwseis toy parelqontos kai strebles sxeseis toy kratoys me tis epixeirhseis me ta gnwsta apotelesmata.

Ayta einai mono kapoia stoixeia me ta opoia apodeiknyetai oti h xwra den ejoikonomei mono, oyte mono amynetai apenanti sthn krish, alla me gennaia, apofasistika kai staqera bhmata allazei. Allazei me stoxo ena apotelesmatiko kratos me oroys diafaneias kai sebasmoy pros ton polith kai kyriws pros to dhmosio xrhma. Ena kratos poy dhmioyrgei ena neo plaisio diakybernhshs kai oikonomikhs diaxeirishs, me politikes poy pragmatwnoyn kai stoxeyoyn s' ena neo anaptyjiako montelo strammeno pros thn ygih, neanikh, kainotoma kai ejwstrefh pragmatikothta.

Ola ayta poy proanefera einai stoixeia poy deixnoyn oti pame mprosta, parallhla me tis megales prospaqeies poy kanoyme gia th dhmosionomikh ejygiansh ths xwras, me oysiastika kai systhmatika bhmata kai me epimonh gia na allajoyme th xwra mas. Kai otan qa bgoyme apo thn krish na exoyme pleon mia diaforetikh xwra pros to kalytero.

Parakalw gia tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: O k. Karatzaferhs, shmera, sth Boylh dhlwse oti qa aposyrei toys boyleytes toy kai qa enhmerwne ton k. Petsalniko. Poio einai to sxolio ths kybernhshs;

PETALWTHS: Einai qema toy k. Karatzaferh na kanei ta bhmata poy qewrei oti me ayta antimetwpizei thn krish kai th shmerinh katastash. Einai qema diko toy. Gnwrizw oti me ton k. Petsalniko eixe mia synanthsh gia to dhmografiko. Einai qema toy k. Karatzaferh.

MIXAHL: To gegonos oti ean to kanei prajh kai aposyrei toys boyleytes toy kai toys anaplhrwmatikoys, odhgoymaste se ekloges gia thn kalych twn koinoboyleytikwn qesewn poy exei to LAOS, problhmatizei thn kybernhsh;

PETALWTHS: Emas, ayto poy twra mas problhmatizei kai einai to monadiko sobaro shmeio poy mas problhmatizei, einai na kleisoyme to mesoproqesmo, na mporesei h xwra na ejygianqei dhmosionomika kai na proxwrhsoyme stis megales allages poy apaitoyntai, na ginoyn amesa kai poly grhgora. Na apokthsei anaptyjiakh troxia h xwra, jepernwntas kai to dhmosionomiko ths problhma, etsi wste ta ofelh poy qa proelqoyn apo olh ayth thn politikh mas, na perasoyn, to syntomotero dynaton kai pio amesa, ston Ellhna polith. Ayto einai to metwpo poy exoyme. Ayth einai h sobarh enasxolhsh poy exoyme kai me ayto asxoloymaste.

SIDERHS: Meta to xqesinobradino epeisodio sth Boylh kai th fygadeysh boyleytwn, skeptetai h kybernhsh na prosfygei sth laikh entolh, dioti blepoyme oti ta pragmata apoktoyn dynamikh ektraxynshs kai anastatwshs sto koinwniko synolo.

PETALWTHS: H laikh entolh, s' ayto to koinoboyleytiko systhma poy zoyme, proerxetai me toys tropoys poy gnwrizame kai gnwrizoyme. Na ypenqymisw oti briskomaste katw apo ton meso xrono qhteias mias kybernhshs kai h laikh entolh ylopoieitai me diaforetikes diadikasies ap' aytes poy kapoioi eixan efarmosei xqes to brady. Apo ekei kai pera, tetoioy eidoys praktikes den mas aforoyn. Praktikes poy to mono poy mporoyme na poyme oti einai katadikastees kai oi opoies amayrwnoyn thn ayqormhth kinhsh twn politwn, oi opoioi ekfrazoyn, me enan sygkekrimeno tropo, thn apogohteysh toys h akomh kai thn aganakthsh toys apo to politiko systhma. Omws, einai qema diko mas, ths koinoboyleytikhs dhmokratias na diasfalisoyme th swsth leitoyrgia toy kratoys kai thn ejodo apo thn krish.

MPEKA: Kyrie Ypoyrge, to politiko kai to filiko sas dhmosiografiko systhma brhke thn eykairia na apajiwsei me sxolia toys ``Aganaktismenoys''. Den exei katalabei oti oso toys apajiwnei, toso o kosmos qa katebainei stoys dromoys;

PETALWTHS: Exw apanthsei. Exw diatypwsei edw kai polles meres -kai prin akomh th diadikasia ths enhmerwshs twn politikwn syntaktwn- thn apoch ths kybernhshs. Thn bash ths erwthshs sas den thn anagnwrizw. Exoyme pei poly jekaqara poia einai h apoch mas gi' ayth thn kinhsh poy ginetai. Kai fysika, oles oi kinhseis poy ginontai, swstes h laqos, analoga pws tis krinei o kaqenas, den mporei para na einai entagmenes sto plaisio leitoyrgias ths Dhmokratias thn opoia exoyme. Opoios amfisbhtei ayth th Dhmokratia, me ta laqh kai tis paraleiceis ths, me ta kala ths kai me ta asxhma ths, einai diko toy qema, an to kanei. Emeis eimaste pistoi s' ayth thn koinoboyleytikh dhmokratia kai an exei kapoios na proteinei allo systhma, as bgei na to proteinei.

MPEKA: Milhsate, prin apo ligo, gia to mesoproqesmo. To mesoproqesmo qa anakoinwqei afoy perasei apo to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio h qa anakoinwqei xwris na perasei apo to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, meta thn telikh morfh poy exei parei, afoy eginan oi allages me thn troika;

PETALWTHS: To mesoproqesmo qa oloklhrwqei, giati akomh den exei oloklhrwqei. Yparxoyn teleytaies texnikes leptomereies poy ejetazontai kai qa anakoinwqei kai h diadikasia poy qa akoloyqhqei mexri thn chfish toy.

SAOYRE: Hqela na diatypwsw dyo erwthseis: H prwth erwthsh exei sxesh me to prosqeto paketo sthrijhs, to opoio akoysame oti exei ycos 65 dis kai akoysame epishs oti kaqierwnetai to poso gia na sthrixqei h oikonomikh anaptyjh ths xwras. Kai erwtw, pws qa ayjhqei h anaptyjh, ef' oson to poso ayto qa paei sto na jexrewqoyn ta palaia xreh;

PETALWTHS: Einai ena poly shmantiko zhthma ayto poy qetete me thn erwthsh sas. Prwta ap' ola, den mporw na sas apanthsw gia to prwto, giati akomh den yparxei kati to opoio na exei apofasisqei kai ola einai sto epipedo twn fhmwn kai kapoiwn dhmosieymatwn toy Typoy. Epishma den yparxei kati. Kai fysika, gi' ayto ton logo, den mporw na sas pw, mias kai den yparxei apofash apo kanenan, opws kai den yparxei enas epishmos anakoinwmenos sxediasmos.

Emeis, jekaqara, exoyme kapoies qeseis, kapoies stoxeyseis kai kapoies arxes. Prwta ap' ola, den milame gia sthrijh h gia bohqeia apo kanenan. O,ti exoyme parei mexri twra kai to lew gia na ginei etsi antilhpto kai katanohto, einai daneismos. Kai malista enas daneismos o opoios htan akrws anagkaios na ginei. Mexri stigmhs exoyme daneistei 110 dis eyrw me epitokia ta opoia pragmatika wfeloyn osoys mas daneizoyn. Oi xwres-melh poy symmetexoyn mesw ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs kai h Eyrwpaikh Kentrikh Trapeza, s' ayto ton daneismo pros emas, bgainoyn wfelhmenes. H Ellada exei ola ta exeggya oti qa epistrecei ayta ta daneika xrhmata kai mexri stigmhs -epanalambanw- exoyme enan daneismo 110 dis eyrw. Den yparxei kati allo. Kai gi' ayto ton logo, den mporw na sas dwsw kai apanthsh.

Ekeino omws poy mporw na sas pw gia na ejhghsw kai th skech sas, h opoia einai fysika eylogh, einai oti ontws exoyme mpei polles fores s' ayth th xwra s' enan faylo kyklo me neoys daneismoys, prospaqwntas na antapokriqoyme stis ypoxrewseis palaioterwn daneismwn. Kai ayto ginetai giati daneisthkame me poly ychla epitokia, polles fores parapanw ap' o,ti qa eprepe na ginei. Kai fysika, me olh ayth thn taktikh poy akoloyqoyme plhrwnoyme, pragmati, polles paraleiceis kai polles strebles katastaseis toy parelqontos, opws einai o ychlos daneismos.

Omws, emeis, parallhla me th dhmosionomikh ejygiansh poy epixeiroyme na kanoyme, prospaqoyme na dhmioyrghsoyme pnoes ameshs anaptyjhs gia th xwra mas, poy pragmatika thn xreiazetai. Kai gia na ginw pio sygkekrimenos: Milame gia tis apokratikopoihseis, milame gia thn ajiopoihsh ths dhmosias perioysias. Ola ayta mporoyn na apoferoyn ap' eyqeias esoda kai me ameso tropo sto ellhniko kratos, ena megalo meros twn opoiwn qa paei sthn katabolh twn ofeilwn mas se palaiotera xreh. Apo ekei kai pera omws, ola ayta dhmioyrgoyn kai anaptyjiakes pnoes, giati yparxei ependysh idiwtikwn kefalaiwn, giati ginetai ajiopoihsh porwn toy ellhnikoy dhmosioy poy mexri twra emenan anajiopoihtoi.

Ara, katalhgw sthn apanthsh moy oti parallhla me to xreos poy apoplhrwnoyme - poy dystyxws eimaste ypoxrewmenoi na plhrwnoyme xreh toy parelqontos ta opoia exoyn sysswreyqei mesa apo diadikasies ychlwn epitokiwn, ychloy kostoys daneismoy - prospaqoyme na qesoyme tis baseis gia na dhmioyrghqei anaptyjh kai kyriws na pragmatopoihsoyme tis megales diarqrwtikes allages me tis opoies bgainontas apo th dhmosionomikh krish den qa epitrepoyn se kanenan na mas gyrisei pisw sto parelqon. Aytes einai oi eggyhseis kai diasfaliseis poy dinoyme kai stoys polites, alla fysika kai pros toys etairoys mas, oti pleon allazoyn polla pragmata, etsi wste na mhn janafqasoyme se ayto to shmeio.

SAOYRE: Kai mia akomh erwthsh: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw gia th synainesh gia ta kainoyrgia metra poy exete anaggeilei. Ti qewreite oti einai to pio krisimo shmeio poy den symfwneite me th N.D.;

PETALWTHS: Emeis mesa apo tis apofaseis kai tis protaseis mas exoyme orisei mia seira metrwn kai apofasewn, opoy qa mporoyse na sygklinei h kybernhsh me thn antipoliteysh synolikotera, giati den einai mono h N.D. Kata th diarkeia ths syzhthshs poy egine me ton Prwqypoyrgo kai toys politikoys arxhgoys exoyme shmeiwsei, exoyme entopisei poia shmeia sygklishs qa mporoysan na yparxoyn kai mporoyn na yparxoyn.

Gia paradeigma, oi apokratikopoihseis me ena meros ths antipoliteyshs qa mporoyse na taytistei toylaxiston ws pros to stoxo, opws kai h ajiopoihsh ths dhmosias perioysias, bebaia me polles diafores poy yparxoyn anamesa sta kommata.

Legontas gia eqnikh synennohsh, den milame gia taytish, gia mia kybernhtikh synergasia twn kommatwn. Milame gia to oti mporei na yparjei enas koinos topos opoy to megalytero meros ths antipoliteyshs qa mporesei na synennohqei me thn kybernhsh, etsi wste na dwsoyme mia eniaia kai dynath fwnh kai stoys polites mas kai stoys etairoys mas, oti oloi antilambanomaste thn krish poy briskomaste kai thn poly megalh prospaqeia poy ofeiloyme na kanoyme, gia na jeperastei ayth. Ta shmeia poy mporoyme na synennohqoyme kai na exoyme mia taytish stis apoceis kai stis apofaseis mas, einai para polla. Yparxoyn, bebaia, kai alla shmeia poy den sygklinoyme, opws einai to forologiko h kapoia alla, giati exoyme diaforetikh qewrhsh twn pragmatwn. Ayto, omws, den akyrwnei to poly megalo pedio synaineshs, synennohshs poy mporoyme na exoyme, kybernhsh kai antipoliteysh.

MPELEGRHS: Shmera, merida toy jenoy Typoy grafei oti to DNT den qa katabalei thn 5h dosh sthn Ellada. Ws kybernhsh, exete kapoia sxetikh enhmerwsh apo to DNT;

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei kamia tetoia enhmerwsh. Kai emeis diabasame ayta ta dhmosieymata meridas toy jenoy Typoy. Ekeino poy emeis prospaqoyme na kanoyme, einai na exoyme thn katabolh ths 5hs doshs, opws eixame kai thn katabolh twn prohgoymenwn dosewn. Kai ayto to leme, giati exoyme oles tis proypoqeseis na peisoyme toys etairoys mas oti eimaste entajei stoys stoxoys mas kai oti mporoyme na paroyme thn 5h dosh.

MPELEGRHS: Exei h kybernhsh kapoio sxolio gia th xqesinh omilia toy Mikh Qeodwrakh;

PETALWTHS: Einai gnwsth h prosfora toy k. Qeodwrakh sth moysikh kai ston politismo. Ayto, omws, den shmainei oti tairiazoyn h taytizontai oi politikes mas apoceis. Emeis exoyme mia sygkekrimenh politikh. Mprosta mas exoyme na antimetwpisoyme mia eqnikh anagkaiothta: Na bgaloyme th xwra apo thn krish. O ellhnikos laos stis ekloges toy Oktwbrioy 2009 mas edwse thn ejoysiodothsh na kybernhsoyme th xwra. Ayto kanoyme kai malista stis pio antijoes synqhkes poy yparxoyn apo thn metapoliteysh kai meta.

MPEKA: Prin apo dyo ebdomades sas eixa rwthsei gia ena dikhgoriko grafeio sto Londino, to Allen ... Overy. Exei arxisei h oxi h syntajh olwn twn eggrafwn poy sxetizontai me th daneiakh symbash kai to mnhmonio 2;

PETALWTHS: Sas eixa apanthsei prin apo ligo xroniko diasthma, sthn idia erwthsh, oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh prospaqoyse na brei nomiko synergath gia thn epektash, opws apofasisthke sth Synodo ths 25hs Martioy, gia to mnhmonio poy diatrexoyme kai efarmozoyme.

MPEKA: Ara, den katatiqetai Mnhmonio 2;

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei tetoia syzhthsh.

MPELEGRHS: Syzhthseis gia neo daneismo;

PETALWTHS: Oxi, den yparxei tetoia syzhthsh. Exoyme sygkekrimeno programma kai ergo mprosta mas.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes eixame sth Boylh mia ``antarsia'' apo boyleytes toy kybernwntos kommatos enantion enos sygkekrimenoy ypoyrgoy poy prokalese, isws, to aisqhma toys me dhlwseis toy. Milw gia ton k. Droytsa. Yphrje malista - kai eimaste se qesh oloi edw mesa na to gnwrizoyme - kai mia kinhtopoihsh na mazeytoyn ypografes gia na katateqei mia erwthsh sxetika me ta dika toy ejoda. To erwthma poy feygei apo ton k. Droytsa, sto baqmo poy antidroyn etsi oi boyleytes sas se kapoies dhlwseis, hqela na sas rwthsw, kata poson skefteste to endexomeno prowrwn eklogwn, an kapoios den chfisei to mesoproqesmo ti shmainei ayto, an exoyme kommatikh peiqarxia kai qa diagrafetai kai pws skefteste na antidrasete se ayth thn koinoboyleytikh antarsia;

PETALWTHS: Emeis den blepoyme kamia koinoboyleytikh ``antarsia''. Exw anaferei epaneilhmmenws oti oi boyleytes kanoyn th doyleia toys katw apo tis pio antijoes synqhkes. Oso gia tis dhlwseis toy k. Droytsa exw epaneilhmmenws topoqethqei gia th qesh ths kybernhshs, edw sthn enhmerwsh twn politikwn syntaktwn. Ayto, bebaia, den shmainei oti qa prepei syllhbdhn apenanti se enan ypoyrgo poy ejefrase kapoies proswpikes, dikes toy qeseis, akomh kai osoi den symfwnoyn me aytes, na blepoyme kapoia dhmosieymata poy periexoyn proswpa toy oikogeneiakoy toy periballontos. Kalo qa einai gia oloys mas na kratame mia sobarothta. Na exoyme tis antirrhseis mas, alla na gnwrizoyme kai ta oria ths eyprepeias kai na mhn prospaqoyme na dhmioyrgoyme alloy eidoys rhgmata, ekei poy pragmatika qeloyme na xtyphsoyme.

MPELEGRHS: Mias kai to anaferete, exei anoijei ena qema metajy kapoiwn blogs kai toy APE, gia mia anakoinwsh poy ebgale sxetika me kapoio proswpo toy oikogeneiakoy periballontos toy k. Matsika.

PETALWTHS: Ta exw diabasei. O k. Matsikas me enhmerwse sxetika, giati afora to gio toy, oti aytos proselhfqh to 2000 sto sygkekrimeno radiofwniko staqmo, einai melos ths ESHEA kai oti ayta ta dhmosieymata einai anypostata.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, den apanthsate an qa diagrafetai opoios boyleyths den chfisei to mesoproqesmo kai se periptwsh poy meinete me 153 boyleytes, opws eixe pei o Prwqypoyrgos, qa pate se ekloges.

PETALWTHS: Ayta einai qewrhtika senaria. Emeis exoyme sobarh doyleia mprosta mas. To mesoproqesmo einai ena poly krisimo shmeio gia th dhmosionomikh kai oikonomikh poreia ths xwras. Epanalambanw oti oi boyleytes exoyn gnwsh ths terastias prospaqeias poy kanei h kybernhsh, h opoia panta syzhta me toys boyleytes ths kai oi agwnies toys, oi anhsyxies toys perilambanontai sta nomosxedia, etsi wste otan fqanoyme sth stigmh ths chfoforias na enswmatwnontai kai oi dikes toys apoceis.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo apogeyma. --1427249692-1736353373-1307088546=:26242--

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