Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-02-26

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 26 Febroyarioy 2008

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 26 Febroyarioy 2008

Xairete.

Ayrio, stis 10.00, qa synedriasei to Kybernhtiko Symboylio Ejwterikwn kai Amynas, me qemata Ypoyrgeioy Amynas kai Eswterikwn. Stis 11.00, qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, sth diarkeia ths opoias, o Ypoyrgos PEXWDE k. Soyflias qa paroysiasei to Eqniko Xwrotajiko Sxedio. Stis 14.00, o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei, sto Megaro Majimoy, me ton Arxiepiskopo Aqhnwn kai Pashs Ellados k. Ierwnymo.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pws ejhgeite to gegonos oti enw exete enhmerwsei ton ellhniko lao, toylaxiston mesw twn ekproswpwn toy, opws exete yposthrijei, gia thn prwtoboylia Nimits, h pleiochfia toy ellhnikoy laoy, opws apotypwnetai se dhmoskophsh xqes toy Alpha, diafwnei oti h protash Nimits apotelei bash syzhthshs kai pws pisteyete oti qa ferete ton kosmo konta stis kybernhtikes qeseis, otan to 87% exei topoqethqei yper toy beto hdh kai zhta sklhrh stash;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai safhs h topoqethsh ths kybernhshs kai dia stomatos Prwqypoyrgoy. Den exw na prosqesw kati perissotero.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gia to idio qema, gia to Skopiano: Yparxoyn boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias h kai twn allwn kommatwn, poy briskontai se katastash monimhs ysterias, me aformh to Skopiano;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Anafereste, profanws, se dhlwsh toy k. Zagorith, o opoios epikoinwnhse mazi moy to prwi kai malista, nomizw oti exei kanei hdh mia dhlwsh, exei dieykrinisei ti akribws ennooyse...

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi, akomh. Ton akoysa mono sto radiofwno toy ANT-1, gia na eimai eilikrinhs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: As afhsoyme, loipon, na milhsei o idios.

PALAIOLOGOS: Pera apo ton idion, apo thn apoch poy qa ekfrasei shmera...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ean den eixe ginei ayth h dhlwsh, den qa moy kanate thn erwthsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Alhqeia einai, alla epi ena 24wro, omws, prospaqoyme na dieykrinisoyme, telika poioi einai aytoi oi opoioi exoyn perielqei se katastash monimhs ysterias.

PARTALIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, aytes tis hmeres zoyme ena neo fainomeno, to gnwsto poy afora ekbiasmoys, sykofanties mesw istoselidas, me th morfh toy eleyqeroy bhmatos, me kataxwrhseis, me agnwsth thn taytothta toy xeiristoy, alla kai twn episkeptwn. Hqela na sas rwthsw, problhmatizei ayto to neo pleon, oxi kai toso eyxaristo, fainomeno kai / h anazhtei h kybernhsh kapoia lysh entos ths xwras h akomh kai an xreiastei me dieqnh synergasia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: An milate gia thn ypoqesh...

PARTALIDHS: Gia ta gnwsta blogs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: An milate gia th sygkekrimenh ypoqesh, ayth kaqayth, apo ayta poy plhroforoymai kai egw, opws kai olos o ellhnikos laos, yparxei hdh dieqnhs synergasia twn anakritikwn arxwn. Se o,ti afora omws genikotera to qema, einai mia kalh eykairia na sas dwsw kapoia epipleon stoixeia: Hdh apo to Febroyario toy 2007, sto plaisio toy Atypoy Symboylioy twn Ypoyrgwn Optikoakoystikwn Qematwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, sto Berolino sto opoio symmeteixa ws armodios Ypoyrgos -opws kai se ola ta alla Symboylia- eixa qesei apo thn ellhnikh pleyra thn anagkh diasfalishs toy dikaiwmatos apanthshs toy polith poy qigetai apo dhmosieyseis kai stis legomenes ``mh grammikes yphresies'' (opws einai gnwstes sto plaisio twn syzhthsewn sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh), opws gia paradeigma einai to Internet kai peraiterw nomoqetikwn ryqmisewn, qesh h opoia eixe ginei apodekth kai apo toys ypoloipoys synadelfoys moy kai apo thn armodia Epitropo. Yparxei, wstoso, kai mia allh diadikasia, thn opoia kalo einai na gnwrizete -den exei parei idiaiterh dhmosiothta- kai milame gia to nomoqetiko plaisio, ayto kaqayto gia to Diadiktyo, parallhlws me osa sas eipa gia thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph: To nomoqetiko plaisio gia to Diadiktyo kaqorizetai apo th Dieqnh Symbash ths Boydapesths toy etoys 2001, toy Organismoy Hnwmenwn Eqnwn, kaqws kai apo thn apofash-plaisio ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, me titlo ``Internet Attacks , h opoia desmeyei eyqews ta krath-melh. Sto plaisio kyrwshs kai enswmatwshs twn prajewn aytwn, systaqhke sto Ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs, ypo thn Proedria toy Symboyloy Epikrateias k. Sakellarioy, nomoparaskeyastikh epitroph. To ergo, omws, ths epitrophs tropopoihqhke, dedomenoy oti h symbash ths Boydapesths paroysiaze problhmata ws pros thn enswmatwsh ths, kyriws logw ths antallaghs dedomenwn twn kratwn poy qa thn enswmatwnan. Einai xarakthristiko oti mono h Gallia exei enswmatwsei thn en logw symbash mexri stigmhs, akribws ejaitias twn problhmatwn poy sas eipa. Gia to logo ayto, to ergo ths epitrophs afora pia tropopoihsh twn diatajewn toy Poinikoy Kwdika kai kyriws twn arqrwn 370 kai 370B,G kai D, gia to aporrhto twn epikoinwniwn, kaqws kai gia ta zhthmata pneymatikhs idiokthsias sto Diadiktyo. H epitroph ayth exei sxedon oloklhrwsei thn katartish sxedioy nomoy poy afora thn kyrwsh symbashs ths Eyrwphs gia to egklhma ston Kybernoxwro. Me tis diatajeis toy antimetwpizetai h egklhmatikothta sto Diadiktyo kai stoys hlektronikoys ypologistes. Ektimatai oti ayto qa eisaxqei gia chfish entos toy etoys poy diagoyme. Epishmainetai oti h ADAE hdh apo to 2005 exei ekdwsei kanonismoys gia thn prostasia toy aporrhtoy twn epikoinwniwn sto Diadiktyo, gia th diasfalish toy aporrhtoy Diadiktyakwn ypodomwn kai gia th diasfalish aporrhtoy efarmogwn kai xrhsh Diadiktyoy, sto plaisio ekteleshs toy arqroy 19 toy Syntagmatos.

Hqela na pw, katalhgontas, oti h ellhnikh Politeia, se synergasia me tis eyrwpaikes arxes kai ton Organismo Hnwmenwn Eqnwn, antimetwpizei ayto to zhthma.

PARTALIDHS: An moy epitrepete, na rwthsw to ejhs: Epeidh jerete kala to qema, aisqaneste oti kapoia stigmh den qa yparxoyn anwnymes kataxwrhseis prosblhtikes h sykofantikes kai qa yparxei kapoios poy qa afhnei thn taytothta toy otan pernaei kati se kapoia istoselida, tis gnwstes, tis dieqneis, tis world websites, wste o sykofantoymenos h o ekbiazomenos na mporei na apanthsei h na labei ta aparaithta metra. To symperasma den jerw pws to blepete...

ROYSOPOYLOS: To qema ths anwnymias sto Internet einai ena qema, poy isxyei dieqnws. Wstoso, den isxyei se kamia xwra, h en pash periptwsei kata th logikh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs kai toy Organismoy Hnwmenwn Eqnwn den mporei na isxyei o ybristikos xarakthras h o sykofantikos xarakthras dhmosieymatwn. Giati anwnyma dhmosieymata mporei na yparxoyn kai sta klasikhs morfhs Mesa Enhmerwshs, dhladh, dhmosieymata poy den exoyn ypografh. Alla, wstoso, ekei yparxei ypeyqynos kata to nomo.

KAKALHS: Dhladh, an katalaba kala, h kybernhsh kineitai sth dhmioyrgia neas nomoqesias, sthn katartish neas nomoqesias me stoxo to na balei kapoia tajh sto xwro toy Internet kai ths diakinhshs twn idewn mesa ap` ayto to xwro;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eipa safws oti kineitai sth logikh ths enswmatwshs sxetikwn odhgiwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, me aformh kai antistoixh synqhkh toy Organismoy Hnwmenwn Eqnwn, th Synqhkh ths Boydapesths.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Epanerxomai sto Skopiano. Kyrie Ypoyrge, olo kai perissoteroi boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias zhtoyn eite sygklhsh toy Symboylioy Politikwn Arxhgwn kai akomh na erqei to qema sth Boylh. Pws topoqeteitai h kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei toylaxiston dyo fores sto erwthma.

ROYMELIWTHS: Xqes, o k. Alogoskoyfhs synedese to qema toy blog me erwthseis poy exoyn ypoblhqei sto Koinoboylio apo boyleytes ths antipoliteyshs. Exei endeijeis h kybernhsh oti pisw apo th drash twn blogers yparxoyn kai politikes eyqynes stelexwn ths antipoliteyshs, estw hqikh aytoyrgia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Fantazomai oti den qa eidate th syzhthsh sth Boylh. Eixa thn eykairia na thn parakoloyqhsw proswpika kai o k. Alogoskoyfhs exei jekaqarisei, exei milhsei me safhneia gia to qema. Exw pei me ta logia peripoy poy qa sas pw oti ``den qelw na pistecw oti yparxei tetoia syndesh''. Wstoso, shmeiwse mia seira apo symptwseis, tis opoies anefere kai kateqese kai sygkekrimenes erwthseis.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den jerw an exei teleiwsei to qema me ta blogs, apo thn pleyra twn synadelfwn. Egw qa hqela na rwthsw gia to Asfalistiko. Xqes sas rwthsa an qa yparjei deyterh fash gia to Asfalistiko kai malista to fqinopwro. Moy apanthsate mallon asafws, afhnontas omws na ennohqei oti ontws qa yparjei enas deyteros kyklos ths asfalistikhs metarryqmishs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exete dikio. Htan asafhs h apanthsh kai malista dhmioyrghse kai kapoies kriseis. Den kathgorw kanena dhmosiografo. Profanws, h dikh moy apanthsh htan asafhs, opws eipa. Qelw na shmeiwsw oti den einai stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs na metabalei to Asfalistiko twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn. Ayto poy qa ginei qa einai mono dialogos gia to neo misqologio twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn.

KATSABOY: O Proedros toy PASOK zhthse apo ton Prwqypoyrgo na syzhthsoyn sth Boylh gia to qema ths Paideias. Protiqetai o k. Karamanlhs na kanei ayth th syzhthsh isws thn Paraskeyh sthn wra toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: An exw plhroforhqei swsta, exei kataqesei epikairh erwthsh. O Prwqypoyrgos efoson den exei kwlyma alloy typoy, eite na brisketai sto ejwteriko eite proeilhmmenh ypoxrewsh, apanta se epikaires erwthseis. Malista se prosfath epikairh erwthsh toy k. Papandreoy, epestrece nwritera apo to ejwteriko, epispeydontas to programma toy, prokeimenoy na apanthsei.

KAKALHS: Epibebaiwnete dhmosiografikes plhrofories oti exei yparjei emplokh sto plaisio twn diapragmateysewn ypo ton k. Nimits gia to Skopiano, me bash to oti o k. Nimits diapistwse adiejodo kai krataei th diapragmateysh se anamonh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To entelws antiqeto. Tis prosexeis hmeres, nomizw oti qa yparjei synanthsh.

KAKALHS: Exei anakoinwqei sthn kybernhsh to pote;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw kati perissotero na sas pw, alla den isxyei h plhroforia thn opoia metefere h erwthsh sas.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes, oi astynomikoi empodisan thn 35xronh na kanei dhlwseis stis kameres. Ayth htan entolh ths hgesias, endexomenws, ths Astynomias h oi synodoi ths leitoyrghsan aytoboylws;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kai egw, ws politikos syntakths otan kalypta to reportaz, den gnwriza tis diadikasies ths Astynomias kai bebaiws den einai kai qema toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy na milhsei gi` aytes tis diadikasies poy exoyn sxesh me th metagwgh proswpwn poy kratoyntai klp. Alla einai, opws moy ejhghqhke apo thn Astynomia, h kaqierwmenh praktikh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den einai, dhladh, yperballwn zhlos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas apanthsa.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, hqela na rwthsw, poia einai entelei h epityxia ths oikonomikhs politikhs ths kybernhshs, otan opws diabazoyme se antapokriseis synadelfwn mas apo tis Bryjelles, h Ellada erxetai prwth se pososto ergazomenwn ftwxwn. Kai malista, ena sta tessera ellhnopoyla megalwnei se oikogeneies poy briskontai katw apo to orio ths ftwxeias.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa sas koyrasw ligo, alla qa sas anaferw mia seira apo stoixeia, ta opoia eixa thn eykairia na ta epanalabw sto press room kai bebaiws, eixe thn eykairia kai o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn, na ta pei. Koinwnika metra gia ton Proypologismo toy 2008: Prwton, ayjhqhke to epidoma koinwnikhs allhleggyhs apo 1/1/2008 kata 35 eyrw to mhna kai efqase sta 230 eyrw, pososto ayjhshs 18%. Deyteron, ayjhqhkan apo 1/1/2008 oi syntajeis toy OGA kata 52,25 eyrw kai efqasan sta 330 eyrw, pososto ayjhshs 19%. Triton, ayjhqhke to katwtato epidoma anergias kata 36,5% -epishs apo thn arxh toy 2008- kai efqase sta 404 eyrw, pososto ayjhshs 10%. Systhnetai, opws gnwrizete, to Eqniko Tameio Koinwnikhs Synoxhs, to opoio qa exei arxiko kefalaio 100 ekatommyriwn eyrw kai qa enisxyqei me to poso twn 500 ekatommyriwn eyrw to 2008, to opoio qa fqasei to 2011 stadiaka sta 2 disekatommyria. Diatiqentai gia thn Ygeia apo ton taktiko proypologismo ayjhmena kondylia kata 9,4%, se sxesh me perysi, dhladh, me ryqmo ypertriplasio apo ton plhqwrismo. Gia thn Paideia diatiqentai kondylia ayjhmena kata 6,5% se sxesh me to 2007, me ryqmo yperdiplasio toy plhqwrismoy. Xrhmatodoteitai ena poly megalo programma dhmosiwn ergwn poy qa fqasei sta 9,2 dis eyrw ( ayjhmeno kata 5,7% se sxesh me to 2007) gia tis ypodomes oi opoies symballoyn sthn anaptyjh kai dhmioyrgoyn qeseis ergasias. Ylopoioyntai oi desmeyseis mas sto akeraio kai apo 1hs Ianoyarioy toy 2008 o misqos toy anqypoloxagoy anhlqe sta 860 eyrw to mhna, syn thn eisodhmatikh politikh toy etoys. Ylopoioyntai sto akeraio oi desmeyseis ths kybernhshs gia tis triteknes oikogeneies, gia to trito paidi. To 2008 oi koinwnikes metabibaseis qa fqasoyn sto 18,4% toy AEP apo 18% poy htan to 2007. Qymaste oti eixame kanei mia analytikh syzhthsh gia tis koinwnikes metabibaseis kai eixe thn eykairia kai o Prwqypoyrgos se pro hmerhsias syzhthsh na anaferei oti proxwroyme se anaprosarmogh toy tropoy me ton opoio ginontai oi koinwnikes metabibaseis. Kai exei amesh sxesh me to erwthma sas, dioti se alles xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs h apodosh twn xrhmatwn aytwn einai pollaplasia ap` oti sth dikh mas th xwra. Ylopoieitai h meiwsh twn forologikwn syntelestwn kai lambanetai mia seira apo metra gia th meiwsh ths anergias, gia thn opoia oloi gnwrizoyme oti h kybernhsh thn parelabe to 2004 sto 12% kai pleon kai exei pesei katw apo to 8%. Exw pei kai alles fores oti h prospaqeia einai diarkhs. H prospaqeia einai kaqhmerinh. Wstoso, h prospaqeia ayth exei arxisei kai apodidei. To idio fainetai kai me toys ryqmoys anaptyjhs. Sas qymizw oti gia toys ryqmoys anaptyjhs, peran twn oswn kindynologikwn akoysame to 2004, eixame ryqmoys poy einai prwtoi sthn Eyrwzwnh. To idio isxyei kai me mia seira allwn megeqwn ths oikonomias poy apotypwnontai kai sthn kaqhmerinothta toy polith. Yparxoyn, omws, problhmata, opws eipa, akomh sthn anergia. Yparxoyn problhmata sthn agora kai thn akribeia -milhsame anoixta thn perasmenh ebdomada- gi` ayto kai lambanetai mia seira apo metra. Kai synexizoyn na yparxoyn problhmata se diaforoys tomeis gia thn ellhnikh oikogeneia. Shmasia exei oti to deigma grafhs sthn prajh, mexri stigmhs, dinei qetiko isozygio, toylaxiston ws pros tis prospaqeies poy kataballei mia kybernhsh gia na antimetwpisei ayta ta problhmata.

KAKALHS: Den prosejate, isws, to stoixeio sthn Ekqesh ths KOMISION, oti gia ta paidia poy einai katw apo to orio ths ftwxeias, dhladh to 23% sthn Ellada, den einai paidia anergwn, alla ergazomenwn. Ayto akribws shmainei oti oi misqoi poy pairnoyme edw sthn Ellada, einai misqoi peinas kai akribws ta paidia einai katw apo to orio ths ftwxeias. Einai, an qymamai kala, to 19% twn paidiwn, einai paidia ergazomenwn symfwna me ta stoixeia ths KOMISION. Ayto epibebaiwnei ayto poy lete apo thn anapodh, oti h prospaqeia ths kybernhshs apodidei. Apodidei, alla pros to xeirotero.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayto poy kanete einai kaqara mia ektimhsh. Den apotypwnetai se kanena apo ta megeqh ta opoia anaferontai. H prospaqeia meiwshs ths anergias, ayjhshs twn eisodhmatwn exei ginei prajh. Eixa thn eykairia na sas diabasw mia seira apo stoixeia, ta opoia nomizw oti kaqe Ellhnas poliths poy ton perilambanoyn, ta gnwrizei kai ta zei sthn kaqhmerinothta toy.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mia dieykrinish, eipate prohgoymenws oti den einai stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs na metabalei to Asfalistiko twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn kai eipate oti mono gia to neo misqologio qa ginei dialogos me thn ADEDY. Xqes eixate milhsei gia dyo faseis, ara, na ypoqesoyme oti den isxyei h deyterh fash ths neas asfalistikhs metarryqmishs, menoyme se mia kai kalh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H deyterh fash - gia ayto eipa oti htan asafes kai dikaiws dhmioyrghse to erwthma shmera anaferetai sto dialogo gia to neo misqologio. Sto neo misqologio yparxoyn zhthmata ta opoia aptontai qematwn poy apasxoloyn toys dhmosioys ypallhloys kai ayta qa syzhthqoyn. Den milame dhladh gia allo Asfalistiko. To Asfalistiko einai ayto to opoio exei katateqei.

GKOYTZANHS: Dhladh k. Ekproswpe, apo ta stoixeia poy mas paraqesate prohgoymenws gia thn Oikonomia, yposthrizete oti sthn tetraetia sas exei beltiwqei to meso biotiko epipedo twn Ellhnwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti katelhja me ena sxolio gia thn tetraetia, to opoio einai safes. Den xreiazetai na to epanalabw.

NASOPOYLOS: Na rwthsw se sxesh me to Asfalistiko kati. Dhladh h kybernhsh qewrei oti to asfalistiko kaqestws sto Dhmosio shmera den xrhzei kamias allaghs; Dioti mexri protinos yphrxe allh aisqhsh mesa kai apo dhlwseis kybernhtikwn stelexwn. Deyteron, me to qema twn Barewn kai Anqygieinwn, poy den antimetwpizontai se ayth th fash, den qa yparjei kapoia allagh; Kai triton, h desmeysh ths kybernhshs einai gia to syntajiodotiko twn boyleytwn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Jekinaw apo to trito skelos ton erwthmatos sas. H desmeysh ayth bebaiws kai qa isxysei. Sto deytero, se oti afora ta Barea kai Anqygieina kai ayto problepetai. Den perilambanetai mesa sto nomo, alla xreiazetai mia ektelestikh prajh nomoy sth synexeia prokeimenoy na oristoyn ta Barea kai Anqygieina. Sto prwto skelos, hdh, apanthsa.

ROYMELIWTHS: Mia teleytaia erwthsh gia to blog. Yparxei mia anakoinwsh toy k. Stefanoy, oti ton episkefqhke o 5os eidikos anakriths synodeyomenos apo dyo stelexh ths Diwjhs hlektronikoy egklhmatos kai ton enhmerwsan oti ton Aprilio toy 2007 ena keimeno anarthqhke sto blog mesw toy diktyoy ths Boylhs. Gia na syndramei omws h Boylh sthn ereyna xreiazetai thn adeia toy Nomikoy Symboylioy toy Kratoys. H kybernhsh qa dwsei thn entolh na syndramoyn oles oi yphresies, oi pantes, sthn ereyna gia na ejakribwqei h drash aytwn twn anqrwpwn poy briskontai pisw apo to blog.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qelw na sas pw pws leitoyrgei to Nomiko Symboylio toy Kratoys, alla to Nomiko Symboylio toy Kratoys qa prepei na gnwmodothsei. Apo ton rolo toy, to Nomiko Symboylio toy Kratoys den qa parei entolh apo thn kybernhsh.

ROYMELIWTHS: Oxi. Zhthsan kai mia seira apo yphresies ektos apo to Nomiko Symboylio toy kratoys.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti einai safes ayto poy leei o Grammateas ths Boylhs. To Nomiko Symboylio toy Kratoys den pairnei entoles apo thn kybernhsh.

SARANTAKOS: Eipate kati gia to syntajiodotiko twn boyleytwn oti qa isxysei. Ti ennoeite se allo...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Me rwthse o k. Nasopoylos an h desmeysh isxyei kai eipa: Bebaiws isxyei.

SARANTAKOS: ... alla oxi se ayto.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exei ginei. Den exoyme pei tipota perissotero apo to oti qa perilhfqei sto nomosxedio kai qema poy afora toys boyleytes. Menw ekei.

SARANTAKOS: Den mporeite na prosdiorisete to xrono.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa, otan rwthqhka gia to nomosxedio oti den qa makrynei poly. To exei pei kai h k. Petralia. Dhladh, den qa arghsei na katateqei.

KAKALHS: Den katalaba ayto poy eipate gia ta Barea kai Anqygieina oti qa yparxei problech sto nomo kai sth synexeia qa bgei mia...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa perigrafoyn ta Barea kai Anqygieina sto nomo.

KAKALHS: Nai, giati den exei teleiwsei akoma to ergo ths h Epitroph afenos kai apo th allh poia problech mporei na yparxei; Oti qa yparxei ayjhsh twn oriwn hlikias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H ektelestikh prajh poy xreiazetai. Mporei na einai ypoyrgikh apofash, mporei na einai proedriko diatagma, den eimai se qesh na sas pw ti akribws xreiazetai. Opws jerete kaqe nomos exei kai mia seira apo probleceis gia prajeis ektelestikes toy nomoy aytoy; Eite einai koines ypoyrgikes apofaseis, eite ypoyrgikes apofaseis, eite proedrika diatagmata.

PALAIOLOGOS: Mia dieykrinistikh erwthsh. Eipate oti ayrio qa synelqei h kybernhtikh epitroph gia qemata toy ypoyrgeioy Amynas kai Ejwterikwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Toy Ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn. To KYSEA qa synelqei me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn kai Amynas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Giati qa sas zhtoysa h epomenh erwthsh an qa htan to Skopiano sthn kybernhtikh atzenta. Ayto lew.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn to opoio sas qymizw oti exei enswmatwsei kai to palaio Ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kai eirrhsqw en parodw gia to qema to Skopiano. Alhqeia me thn istoria ths diarrohs toy perifhmoy eggrafoy Nimits, h kybernhsh telika plhroforhqhke, enhmerwqhke eswterikws pws dierreyse.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw kati kainoyrgio na sas pw.

Sas eyxaristw.

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