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Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-10-24

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 24 Oktwbrioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 102416461

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 24 Oktwbrioy 2007

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

Opws gnwrizete, oloklhrwqhke prin apo ligo h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Anaptyjhs. Exei hdh probei se dhlwseis o armodios ypoyrgos k. Fwlias. Den exw na prosqesw kati perissotero.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o boyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Byrwn Polydwras epanhlqe shmera se prwtoselido dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas ``ESTIA'' kai anaferei mia seira logoys me toys opoioys dikaiologei th stash toy. Egw qelw ena sxolio katarxhn gia oroys kai fraseis poy xrhsimopoiei o k. Polydwras, oi opoies deixnoyn eyqews to Megaro Majimoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa kanw kanena sxolio.

SPYRAKH: O k. Polydwras, me ayth th stash, ejakoloyqei na paramenei stoys 152 ths pleiochfias sas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Fantazomai oti qa exei poly endiaferon na janapaijete to ``kanena sxolio'', alla den qa kanw kanena sxolio.

RABANOS: Sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph syzhthqhke, opws maqame, to qema toy agwgoy Mpoyrgkas-Alejandroypolh. Kanw laqos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kai ayto to qema htan sto plaisio ths enhmerwshs poy ekane o k. Fwlias.

RABANOS: H erwthsh moy einai h ejhs: Exete kati perissotero na mas peite gia thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Mosxa; Yparxei periptwsh na metabei sth rwsikh prwteyoysa entos toy Noembrioy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Me eixate rwthsei kai tis proalles. Den exw na sas pw kati perissotero.

MPESKENHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, plhroforhqhka prin apo ligo oti symfwna me dhmosieymata efhmeridwn kai metadoseis toy RIK, opws lene ta Praktoreia, synypegrafh apo ton k. Mpraoyn, to Bretano Prwqypoyrgo kai ton k. Erntogan, ton Toyrko, ena mnhmonio h ena eggrafo sto opoio feretai oti h Bretania qa yposthrijei thn eisodo ths B. Kyproy, opws anaferontai ta Katexomena, mesa sto eggrafo, sthn Eyrwboylh. Kai bebaia qa prowqhsei kai prospaqeies epilyshs toy Kypriakoy. Kapoio sxolio exete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na enhmerwqw prwta apo to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn kai meta na kanw sxolio h egw h to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Qa htan proxeiro na kanw twra ena sxolio gia ena toso shmantiko qema, opws ayto poy anaferate.

KORAH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela ena sxolio ths kybernhshs gia thn apeyqeias symbash-mamoyq twn 230 ekatommyriwn eyrw sthn INTRALOT-Kokkalh apo ton OPAP, stis 31/07/2007, h opoia malista, meta apo thn apokalych ths ``ELEYQEROTYPIAS'', prokalese kai parembash ths Epitrophs Kefalaiagoras poy zhtaei ejhghseis. Aytoy toy eidoys oi diapragmateyseis den einai enantia stis arxes poy exete diakhryjei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: An qymamai kala, eixe ginei mia anakoinwsh tote apo ton OPAP kai egine kai mia deyterh twra. Se kaqe periptwsh, opws gnwrizete, o OPAP einai mia etaireia eishgmenh sto Xrhmatisthrio, exei dioikhsh. Eimai bebaios oti qa dwsei apanthseis sta erwthmata poy qetete.

KORAH: O OPAP den exei dwsei apanthseis, kyrie Ekproswpe. Apekryce tyxaiws kai to kostos synthrhshs kai gi` ayta ta opoia den einai... , einai para polla, einai 125 ekatommyria eyrw. Kai gi` ayta egkaleitai kai apo thn Epitroph Kefalaiagoras. Epishs, sto Dioikhtiko Symboylio toy OPAP einai polla stelexh ta opoia einai ths epirrohs, qewroyntai toylaxiston, ths epirrohs kai ths apolytoy empistosynhs toy Majimoy kai toy idioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Den yparxei politiko qema;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti kanate laqos diapistwnontas, emmesws, oti qewrhsa to qema hssonos shmasias. Giati me th deyterh erwthsh sas, mallon ayto symperanate. Den isxyei ayto. Sas eipa oti einai ena qema, gia to opoio pisteyw oti o OPAP qa dwsei apanthseis.

KORAH: Pote qa exoyme aytes tis apanthseis; Gnwrizete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti o OPAP qa dwsei apanthseis. H qa apeyqynqeite eseis. Egw, pantws, sigoyra qa maqw ti akribws exei symbei.

KORAH: Epishs, h idia symbash toy 2007, exei apoikiokratika xarakthristika kai se o,ti afora thn apozhmiwsh ths INTRALOT se periptwsh poy ayrio o OPAP apofasisei na diakocei ayth th symfwnia, na thn katasthsei akyrh. Problepei 500 ekatommyria eyrw, dhladh peripoy sto yperdiplasio toy oloy kostoys. Ena sxolio sas kai gi` ayto.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Akoygontai entypwsiaka ola ayta ta opoia lete, nomizw, se ayth thn aiqoysa, alla an den akoysoyme kai thn allh pleyra, den qa mporoyme na bgaloyme kapoio symperasma. Qa perimenw, loipon, na akoysw kai thn allh pleyra prokeimenoy na bgoyn ta symperasmata.

PALAIOLOGOS: Na paw se ena allo qema. Kyrie Ypoyrge, fobatai h kybernhsh oti boyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias qa katachfisei kybernhtiko nomosxedio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti ennoeite;

PALAIOLOGOS: Lew, an fobatai h kybernhsh oti qa ekdhlwqei mia kinhsh antarsias ek meroys boyleyth ths Neas Dhmokratias se kybernhtiko nomosxedio.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ofeilw na omologhsw oti pote den eixa mantikes ikanothtes aytoy toy eidoys. Kata synepeia, den mporw na apanthsw sto erwthma sas.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h symbash ayth, sthn opoia anaferqhke prohgoymenws h synadelfos k. Korah, afora paixnidia tzogoy gia ta opoia palaiotera o Prwqypoyrgos, otan htan arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs eixe antidrasei entona apo to bhma ths Boylhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: De nomizw oti mporw na pw kati perissotero, peran aytwn poy eipa sthn k. Korah. Qa perimenw na akoysw kai thn allh pleyra. Na akoysoyme ti exei na pei o OPAP. Epanalambanw oti o OPAP einai mia megalh etaireia, eishgmenh sto Xrhmatisthrio, exei dioikhsh. Einai profanes oti qa dwsei apanthseis sta osa tiqentai sto dhmosieyma ths ``ELEYQEROTYPIAS'' kai xqes kai shmera.

GKOYTZANHS: Politiko einai to diko moy erwthma, den exei na kanei me to pws egine h symbash. Ayta ta kalyce h synadelfos...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Tote, isws, den to katalaba egw. Qelete na epanalabete;

GKOYTZANHS: Rwthsa, ean aytes oi symbaseis aforoyn paixnidia tzogoy, ta opoia eixe kataggeilei palaiotera apo to bhma ths Boylhs o Prwqypoyrgos, me ena hqiko skeptiko...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti ennoeite ``politiko''; Qetete ena erwthma oysias, dhladh se ti anaferetai h symbash. Politika einai ola ta erwthmata en th eyreia ennoia. Alla moy qetete ena erwthma oysias, se ti anaferetai h symbash. Den exw gnwseis peraiterw. Qa perimenw na akoysw kai thn pleyra toy OPAP kai qa sas dwsw kai egw tis dikes moy apanthseis.

NASOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, erhmhn ths kybernhshs leitoyrgei o OPAP; Ap` o,ti jerw, ejakoloyqei -typikws mporei na einai oi metoxoi- alla oysiastikws epilegetai apo thn kybernhsh h dioikhsh kai mexri to 2004, de zhtoysate apo th Dioikhsh toy OPAP apanthseis gia tetoioy eidoys zhthmata, alla apo thn kybernhsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai bebaio oti qa ekdwsei anakoinwsh h Dioikhsh toy OPAP. Qewrw oti exei hdh dwsei mia apanthsh apo to kalokairi. Ean kanw laqos diorqwste me, h k. Korah poy asxolhqhke perissotero.

KORAH: Nai, einai elliphs. Apokryptei shmantika stoixeia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa dwsei, loipon, kai tis apanthseis tis opoies prepei na dwsei shmera, ayrio. Opote dwsei tis apanthseis kai efoson exw kati na sas pw, qa sas pw kai egw.

KAKALHS: Se kaqe nomosxedio poy qa erxetai sth Boylh h kybernhsh qa qetei qema kommatikhs peiqarxias h qetei a priori qema kommatikhs peiqarxias, opws afhse na ennohqei xqes o k. Karaxalios;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw tis dhlwseis poy moy anaferete. Opws gnwrizete, ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, exw topoqethqei gia to qema ayto -oxi mono twra, alla kai se polles periptwseis sto parelqon- gia thn eleyqeria toy boyleyth.

KAKALHS: Ena symplhrwmatiko erwthma: H katachfish nomosxedioy apo boyleyth einai aitia diagrafhs toy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, den apantw se ypoqetika erwthmata.

KAKALHS: Den einai ypoqetiko.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ypoqetiko einai. Exoyme kapoia katachfish nomosxedioy kai den to jerw;

KAKALHS: Oxi. H qesh arxhs poia einai ths kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epanalambanw oti se ypoqetika erwthmata den apantw.

SARANTAKOS: Exei h kybernhsh sta xeria ths stoixeia poy na apodeiknyoyn oti oi fwties toy kalokairioy htan apotelesma emprhsmwn kai ta opoia den ta dinei sth dhmosiothta, opws kataggellei o k. Polydwras shmera;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei doqei mia seira apo stoixeia to kalokairi. Qymaste oti stis synenteyjeis toy Zappeioy, apo ta stoixeia poy moy promhqeyse h Astynomia kai h Pyrosbestikh, edwsa kai egw proswpika orismena apo ayta ta stoixeia. Ean yparxei kati perissotero, eimai bebaios oti to armodio Ypoyrgeio qa sas diafwtisei.

SARANTAKOS: Den yparxei kati pantws poy na gnwrizete eseis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kati poy na gnwrizw egw, perissotero twn stoixeiwn poy dwsame to kalokairi, den exw.

KORAH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, oi diakhryjeis toy Prwqypoyrgoy peri eqnikwn promhqeytwn, ntabatzhdwn, exoyn aposyrqei; Ayth h shmaia exei ypostalei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Milate gia diakhryjeis, ara milate gia dhmosies dhlwseis...

KORAH: Kai sth Boylh tis exei kanei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ej oswn gnwrizw, se o,ti afora ton prwto xarakthrismo, ontws o Prwqypoyrgos exei probei se ayth th dhlwsh. Exei kanei tetoio xarakthrismo. Se zhthmata hqikhs tajews den yparxei kanenos eidoys ekptwsh apo ton Kwsta Karamanlh kai th Nea Dhmokratia.

GKOYTZANHS: Na to qesw pio oloklhrwmena to erwthma kai sthn politikh toy diastash: Prin apo tis ekloges toy 2004, apo to bhma ths Boylhs, o k. Karamanlhs eixe milhsei gia eqnikoys ergolaboys kai eqnikoys promhqeytes. Den toys eixe katonomasei. Toys eixe katonomasei ypoyrgos tote, meta to 2004, ths kybernhshs. As mhn poyme onomata. Den einai ekei to zhthma. Oi idioi ergolaboi kai promhqeytes, toys opoioys oloi jeroyme, alla den katonomazoyme, phran shmantikes doyleies sth diarkeia ths prwths qhteias ths kybernhshs. Apo edw prokyptei h oti aytoi htan kaloi epixeirhmaties kai tote kai twra kai adikws o Prwqypoyrgos toys kathggeile kai spilwse kai mia paratajh, thn antiqeth, me th diaplokh h aytoi ejakoloyqoyn na einai kakoi kai h kybernhsh sas ta exei brei me th diaplokh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H Nea Dhmokratia den ta exei brei me kamia diaplokh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, prosfata h Syria proxwrhse se aktoploikh syndesh metajy Latakeias kai Ammoxwstoy. Ayto sthn oysia, shmainei mia emmesh anagnwrish toy ceydokratoys Ntenktas. Dierwtwmai ean h ellhnikh kybernhsh exei hdh probei se kapoies kinhseis gia na stamathsei ayth thn ejelijh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na apeyqynete to erwthma sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Se kaqe periptwsh, gnwrizete oti eite amesh, eite emmesh prospaqeia anagnwrishs, mas briskei antiqetoys.

NASOPOYLOS: H diatajh gia thn opoia syzhtoysame kai xqes poy afora proswpiko toy Prwqypoyrgikoy Grafeioy kai ths Genikhs Grammateias ths kybernhshs, epanhlqe shmera...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei milhsei o k. Paylopoylos sth Boylh. Den exw na pw kati allo. Sas enhmerwse. Edwse analytikh apanthsh.

NASOPOYLOS: Qelw na rwthsw to ejhs: Epanhlqe se prwth fash, xwris na yparxei h Boylh mesa, exei ejaireqei, mporoysan na pane aytoi oi anqrwpoi mono sth Grammateia toy Ypoyrgeioy Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai se deyterh fash mphke kai rhtra oti den afora toys metaklhtoys. Gia poio logo prosteqhke, afoy noeitai oti den aforoyse, etsi kai alliws, metaklhtoys;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Paylopoylos exei dwsei apanthseis sthn armodia Epitroph ths Boylhs.

KORAH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na anaferqw se ena allo dhmosieyma ths ``Eleyqerotypias'' to opoio anaferetai se mia koinh ypoyrgikh apofash twn ypoyrgwn Metaforwn kai Oikonomias, Xatzhdakh kai Alogoskoyfh, symfwna me thn opoia ejaireqhkan apo to nomo gia tis DEKO oi treis etaireies ths Olympiakhs kai sygkekrimena apo tis desmeyseis toy arqroy 3 poy afora thn etairikh diakybernhsh. Qelw ena sxolio sas.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ontws, yphrje h ejairesh thn opoia anaferete. H etaireia brisketai se mia eyaisqhth fash. Kriqhke aparaithto to idio proswpo na einai proedros kai dieyqynwn symboylos. Epidiwjh einai na yparxei kalyteros syntonismos sto dialogo me tis armodies Arxes sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, wste na bohqhqoyme oloi, prokeimenoy na doqei mia oristikh kai biwsimh lysh sto qema.

KORAH: Ayto, omws, den afhnei ena anoikto paraqyro na efarmostei h idia ejairesh kai se alles DEKO; Dhladh, kapoy den ypanaxwrei apo tis politikes ths h kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas ejhgw poia einai h idiaiterothta ths Olympiakhs, thn opoia nomizw oti den xreiazetai na ermhneysw perissotero. Oloi thn katanooyme.

KORAH: To gegonos oti h sygkekrimenh ejairesh shmainei oti ta sygkekrimena proswpa den qa elegxontai apo th Boylh, oi misqoi toys den qa periorizontai sto plafon twn apodoxwn toy Proedroy toy Areioy Pagoy kai qa mporoyn na exoyn kai deyterh doyleia, den einai ena qema;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exete, alhqeia, thn entypwsh oti egine mia tetoia ejairesh mono kai mono gia na parei kapoios ena megalytero misqo; Sto qema ths Olympiakhs;

KORAH: Oxi, bebaia. Alla to paroysiazei, omws, ws qema.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Janarwtw monos moy: Sto qema ths Olympiakhs; Pros Qeoy!

NASOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, me to idio nomosxedio poy jekinhse na syzhteitai shmera sthn armodia Epitroph Dhmosias Dioikhshs ths Boylhs, problepetai kai h entajh toy nomoy Serrwn sto kaqestws twn parameqoriwn perioxwn. Poioi einai oi logoi poy ypagoreysan ayth thn (den akoygetai)

ROYSOPOYLOS: Me poly xara qa apantw se ola ta erwthmata. Alla, nomizw oti einai poly ejeidikeymena orismena apo ayta poy tiqentai kai eidika otan yparxei nomosxedio thn idia wra, se syzhthsh, sth Boylh. O armodios ypoyrgos kai oi yfypoyrgoi einai diaqesimoi. Gnwrizw oti o armodios ypoyrgos eixe hdh synanthsh me toys armodioys syntaktes to prwi kai nomizw oti mporei na apanthsei. Ean para tayta epimenete, na ton rwthsw kai ayrio na sas apanthsw. Den einai kopos gia mena. Qa hqela aplws orismena pragmata na ginontai me ayto ton tropo, ean symfwneite kai eseis bebaiws. Den qa sas pw egw pws qa kanete th doyleia sas. Pros Qeoy! Mhn parejhghqw.

ARMENHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, metro exoyme. Malista epekteinetai. Nees grammes sta astika lewforeia exoyme, omws ejakoloyqoyme na exoyme sobaro kykloforiako problhma. Kaqe hmera oi Aqhnaioi talaipwroyntai. Ti skeftetai na kanei h kybernhsh; Yparxoyn skeceis gia prosqeta metra; Ti qa ginei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qymamai oti prin apo liges hmeres o armodios ypoyrgos k. Xatzhdakhs eixe synanthseis me sygkoinwniologoys, me kaqhghtes, gnwstes toy antikeimenoy. Ereynatai mia seira apo metra, giati diafores meletes -opws poly swsta epishmanate- deixnoyn problhmata diarkws ayjanomena. Orismenes apo aytes ftanoyn sto 2008, to 2009, kai epishmainoyn oti qa dhmioyrghqoyn problhmata poy den fantazomaste shmera. Den gnwrizw kati perissotero apo to oti o armodios ypoyrgos kai oi yphresies toy meletoyn to fainomeno kai prospaqoyn na broyn lyseis.

RABANOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, sas eixa rwthsei xqes gia thn anagnwrish twn ptyxiwn twn jenwn kollegiwn kai synergasia me ta jena panepisthmia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exete dikio. Aplws, epeidh emaqa oti eixe erwthqei thn Paraskeyh o k. Antwnaros kai eixe dwsei mia apanthsh, gi` ayto kai den epanhlqa sto qema, sthn arxh, apo monos moy. Ean qelete, omws, na sas qymisw...

RABANOS: To rwtw, epeidh eixame kai thn eleysh toy ekproswpoy toy Panepisthmioy Sorbonnhs ths Gallias...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Milhsa me ton armodio ypoyrgo k. Stylianidh. H Ellada exei safws ypoxrewsh na enarmonisei th nomoqesia ths stis koinotikes odhgies. Opws symbainei allwste me oles tis koinotikes odhgies, prepei na ginontai meros toy eswterikoy mas Dikaioy. Xrhsimopoioyme, omws, to eqniko mas Dikaio, prokeimenoy na elegxoyme thn poiothta ths parexomenhs Paideias me th dhmioyrgia aysthrwn mhxanismwn. Ayto qa prajoyme kai se ayth th sygkekrimenh periptwsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Mias kai egine prohgoymenws logos gia to kykloforiako kai mphkame sta xwrafia toy Ypoyrgeioy Metaforwn, yparxoyn shmera dhmosieymata poy milane h prodikazoyn, me aformh paraithseis Proedrwn Organismwn poy epopteyontai apo to Ypoyrgeio Metaforwn gia ekkaqariseis proswpwn. To sxolio ths kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti qa prepei na maqoyme oloi mas oti stoys Organismoys yparxei h zwsa pragmatikothta, opws symbainei kai sto kanali sas, opws symbainei kai stis efhmerides. Yparxoyn anqrwpoi, oi opoioi analambanoyn dioikhtikoys roloys kai kapoia stigmh feygoyn gia x, c logoys. Den nomizw oti prepei na dinoyme idiaiterh shmasia, ektos kai an tiqentai zhthmata hqikhs tajews, opote bebaiws symfwnw kai egw mazi sas oti qa prepei kapoios na asxolhqei perissotero. Oi plhrofories moy, omws, den anaferoyn oti yparxoyn tetoia zhthmata.

KAKALHS: Pws sxoliazete tis ises apostaseis poy krataei h Komision sthn ypoqesh ths onomasias twn Skopiwn, h opoia kalese xqes amfoteres tis pleyres na mhn probainoyn se energeies poy qa mporoysan na qewrhqoyn proklhtikes. Mporeite na ypologizete sthn peribohth koinotikh allhleggyh en ocei ejelijewn poy anamenontai se ayto to qema;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Emeis qeloyme na ypologizoyme sthn koinotikh allhleggyh, ws palaiotero kratos melos ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs sthn perioxh. Opws kai sthn allhleggyh twn etairwn mas sto NATO, ws palaiotero kratos melos toy NATO sthn perioxh. Oi qeseis mas exoyn diatypwqei kai prosfata. Prospaqoyme mesa apo toys diplwmatikoys mhxanismoys poy diaqetei h xwra, me prwth thn Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn, toys synergates ths, alla bebaiws kai me tis epafes poy exei kanei o Prwqypoyrgos- kai opote dinetai h eykairia, se oloys toys alloys Ypoyrgoys- na diamhnyoyme tis qeseis mas. Na prospaqoyme na peisoyme gia aytes. Dinoyme mia maxh kai qa synexisoyme na thn dinoyme.

KAKALHS: Sto plaisio ayths ths maxhs, einai sthn proqesh ths kybernhshs h apodoxh mias diplhs onomasias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epeidh rwthqhka kai prosfata qymaste oti apanthsa pws den qa htan dokimo se ayth th fash na poyme otidhpote perissotero peran twn oswn exoyn diatypwqei dhmosiws apo thn armodio Ypoyrgo alla kai edw, sto press room. Den exw na pw, loipon, kati perissotero.

XIDIROGLOY: Sthn koyrsa gia thn eklogh proedroy toy PASOK ektos apo toys kaygades akoygontai kai kapoies protaseis h tiqentai kapoioi problhmatismoi. Milwntas sta Xania o k. Benizelos, anaferomenos sto topiko anaptyjiako problhma, eipe oti h Krhth den exei qesmoys poy na thn aytonomoyn politika, na thn xeirafetoyn, na ths dinoyn to dikaiwma na diamorfwnei to montelo anaptyjhs ths kai na to xeirizetai h idia kai ayto prepei na katoxyrwqei, leei o k. Benizelos kai sth xwra kai apo to PASOK. Epeidh ta parapanw oysiastika amfisbhtoyn to montelo dioikhshs ths xwras, qa hqela ena sxolio.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa htan proxeiro dioti den gnwrizw thn diatypwsh. Den gnwrizw poy anaferete. Den amfisbhtw tis proqeseis sas h oti den diabasate to apospasma epakribws, alla xwris na gnwrizw poy anaferetai den mporw na kanw kapoio sxolio. Fantazomai oti epoikodomhtikes protaseis enocei toy neoy ``Kapodistria'' mporoyn na akoystoyn apo ola ta kommata. H kybernhsh exei dhlwsei tis proqeseis ths. Perimenoyme kai apo thn KEDKE kai apo alloys foreis kai apo opoiondhpote- poly perissotero apo politika proswpa- na syneisferoyn me tis skeceis toys, tis idees toys, wste na mporesoyme na ftasoyme se kapoio kalytero apotelesma. Ara, an se ayto anaferetai o k. Benizelos, isxyei ayto poy eipa prohgoymenws.

MELIGKWNHS: Proeklogika, polla stelexh thn Neas Dhmokratias eqetan, kata kapoio tropo, ton phxy chla sxetika me thn aytodynamia, gia thn koinoboyleytikh pleiochfia kai eixan milhsei kapoioi gia 155-156 edres. Eixan pei oti xreiazomaste isxyrh koinoboyleytikh pleiochfia kai kapoioi alloi elegan oti dedomenoy toy eklogikoy nomoy ayto einai laqos giati kalliergoyme thn entypwsh meteklogika oti an den exoyme tetoia pleiochfia tote qa dhmioyrghqei h aisqhsh ths akybernhsias. Me olh ayth thn koybenta poy ginetai aytes tis ebdomades peri antartwn, peri isxnhs koinoboyleytikhs pleiochfias qewreite telika oti htan laqos poy kapoioi eqetan ton phxy chla;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eilikrina den qymamai poioi htan aytoi poy eqetan ton men problhmatismo kai poioi ton de. Fantazomai oti o kaqenas eixe ta epixeirhmata toy. Shmantiko einai oti oi Ellhnes polites epelejan, me diafora peripoy tessarwn monadwn, ws kybernhsh thn Nea Dhmokratia. Shmantiko einai oti thn epelejan gia deyterh qhteia. Shmantiko einai oti epibebaiwsan etsi thn politikh ths prwths tetraetias kai zhtoyn th synexish twn metarryqmisewn. Kai nomizw oti oloi oi boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias ergazontai pros aythn thn kateyqynsh. Dhladh, sthn peraiterw enisxysh twn metarryqmisewn etsi wste na kanoyme prajh plhrws to programma mas.

MELIGKWNHS: Qewreite aneth pleiochfia tis 152 edres;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Rwthqhka thn prwth kiolas ebdomada sto press room. Giati na pw kati diaforetiko apo ayto poy eipa tote;

Sas eyxaristw.


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