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Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-10-02

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

GENIKH GRAMMATEIA EPIKOINWNIAS

GENIKH GRAMMATEIA ENHMERWSHS

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 2 Oktwbrioy 2006

Ariqmos Deltioy: 32937509

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 2 Oktwbrioy 2006

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Kalh ebdomada kai kalo mhna.

Ayrio Trith, 3 Oktwbrioy, stis 11.00 qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph ypo thn Proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh me antikeimeno qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Politismoy kai enhmerwsh apo thn Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn k. Ntora Mpakogiannh.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

MANH: Exei zhthsei h kybernhsh ejhghseis apo th dioikhsh ths Agrotikhs Trapezas gia tis ependytikes ths kinhseis kai gia ta diaforetika stoixeia poy dinei kata kairoys sth Boylh gia thn oikonomikh qesh ths trapezas;

ANTWNAROS: Gia to qema ayto sas parapempw se leptomerh anakoinwsh thn opoia exei ekdwsei h dioikhsh ths Agrotikhs Trapezas.

KORAH: Qa epimeinw sto idio erwthma ths k. Manh. H apanthsh ths Agrotikhs Trapezas einai sth logikh oti exoyme ekfrasei tis dikes ths apoceis. Emeis qeloyme ena sxolio ths kybernhshs, dedomenoy oti kai o k. Doykas sth Boylh, eqese ena qema xrhsths dioikhshs. Qewreite oti einai xrhsth h dioikhsh ths Agrotikhs;

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw sthn anakoinwsh ths dioikhshs ths Agrotikhs Trapezas.

KORAH: Qelw ena sxolio ths kybernhshs gia ton k. Dologloy, o opoios malista exei kapoia syggenikh sxesh kai me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Me bash ena dhmosieyma ths ``Kyriakatikhs Eleyqerotypias'', mesa se mia nykta, o k. Dologloy allaje pente misqologika klimakia kai apo klhthras ths DEH, breqhke dieyqynths sto Pentagwno. Me ti krithria kai me poia logikh ajiokratias;

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw to sygkekrimeno qema. Prepei na enhmerwqw kai na sas apanthsw. Alla antilambaneste oti den sxoliazw ola ta dhmosieymata poy yparxoyn stis efhmerides.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, apo thn perasmenh ebdomada, opote proekyce gia prwth fora to qema me thn ATE, apo thn efhmerida moy, o k. Mhliakos epikoinwnhse me to Megaro Majimoy;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa gia to qema. Den exw na prosqesw kati.

GKOYTZANHS: An epikoinwnhse me ton k. Roysopoylo h me ton k. Aggeloy.

ANTWNAROS: Oi epikoinwnies toy Grafeioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy me dioikhtes Trapezwn kai me alla stelexh toy dhmosioy bioy den einai kati to opoio syzhtoyme h anakoinwnoyme.

GKOYTZANHS: Katalabainete oti exei politikh shmasia, an synennohqhke me to Megaro Majimoy gia to xeirismo...

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. H apanthsh moy htan jekaqarh. Sas parapempw gia allh mia fora sthn anakoinwsh ths dioikhshs ths Agrotikhs Trapezas.

SIDERHS: Ara, sas kalyptei ayth h anakoinwsh. To lew enocei toy oti to PASOK qa paei ston Eisaggelea.

ANTWNAROS: Exw apanthsei me apolyth safhneia.

KAKALHS: Apo pote oi agwnes twn ergazomenwn gia ta dikaia aithmata toys, qewroyntai logos gia prowrh prosfygh stis kalpes; Pisteyei h kybernhsh oti qa ekbiasei toys agwnes twn ergazomenwn, episyrontas thn apeilh twn prowrwn eklogwn, opws ekane o k. Kefalogiannhs;

ANTWNAROS: Den katalaba ti akribws qelete na peite.

KAKALHS: Einai safhs h topoqethsh. Prokyptei apo th synenteyjh toy k. Kefalogiannh...

ANTWNAROS: Rwthqhke o k. Roysopoylos thn perasmenh ebdomada, se ayth thn aiqoysa gia to qema twn eklogwn kai edwse safestath apanthsh. To Syntagma problepei thn hmeromhnia twn eklogwn. Einai sto telos ths tetraetias.

KAKALHS: Egw milaw gia ton ekbiasmo poy epixeireitai apo kybernhtikoys symboyloys gia to qema twn prowrwn eklogwn. Dhladh, xrhsimopoieitai ws apeilh gia prowres ekloges, enantia stoys agwnes twn ekpaideytikwn.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh oyte apeilei oyte ekbiazei kanenan. Efarmozei aparegklita osa exei anakoinwsei kai sto proeklogiko ths programma kai stis programmatikes dhlwseis poy ekane o Prwqypoyrgos, me thn analhch ths diakybernhshs ths xwras, meta tis ekloges toy Martioy toy 2004.

KAKALHS: Pisteyete oti einai kateyqynomenes oi kinhtopoihseis twn ekpaideytikwn, opws eipe o k. Sphliwtopoylos...

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa ep' aytoy thn perasmenh ebdomada. H apanthsh poy exw dwsei isxyei sto akeraio.

SARANTAKOS: Gia to idio qema. Apo th dhlwsh toy k. Roysopoyloy thn prohgoymenh ebdomada ews kai shmera, mesolabhse h topoqethsh toy k. Giannh Kefalogiannh sthn efhmerida ``Eqnos ths Kyriakhs'', opoy htan safhs oti an synexistei h ojynsh apo thn antipoliteysh kai sygkekrimenes koinwnikes omades, tote o Prwqypoyrgos exei kaqe logo na zhthsei nwph laikh entolh. Ayto einai to erwthma. Giati profanws, h dhlwsh toy k. Kefalogiannh einai ena neo dedomeno...

ANTWNAROS: H dhlwsh poy ekana pro oligoy isxyei sto akeraio.

SARANTAKOS: Na oloklhrwsw thn erwthsh moy. O k. Kefalogiannhs den einai enas boyleyths. Einai apo toys palaioteroys koinoboyleytikoys kai einai eidikos symboylos toy Prwqypoyrgoy, gi` ayto einai kai h erwthsh.

ANTWNAROS: Kai sas apanthsa.

XIWTHS: Qelw na rwthsw, kyrie Ekproswpe, ean h kybernhsh qa apeyqynei kapoies systaseis sta probeblhmena ths stelexh, opws einai o k. G. Kefalogiannhs, opws einai o k. G. Alogoskoyfhs, oi opoioi profanws adiaforoyn gia tis dhlwseis toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy kai an mh ti allo h leitoyrgoyn apoprosanatolistika h, en pash periptwsei, ektrepoyn ton politiko dialogo, otan dyo hmeres meta th dhlwsh toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy, egeiroyn qema prowrwn eklogwn.

ANTWNAROS: To qema egeiretai apo alloys kai oxi apo ta sygkekrimena stelexh, me tis ayqairetes ermhneies poy dinontai se osa lene dhmosia orismena stelexh.

SPYRAKH: Dyo pragmata. To prwto exei ws ejhs: Pws apotima h kybernhsh tis kinhtopoihseis twn ekpaideytikwn;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh, atalanteyta, efarmozei to metarryqmistiko ths programma sthn Paideia. Sas eipa thn perasmenh ebdomada oti ola ta stoixeia, ta opoia perilambanontai stis diakhryjeis poy exei kanei h kybernhsh sto qema ths Paideias, ena  ena ginontai prajh. Kai ayto qa synexistei.

SPYRAKH: To deytero poy qa hqela na sas rwthsw einai, an pisteyete oti dedomenoy oti yparxei mia ekryqmh katastash sta sxoleia, h kybernhsh prepei na antimetwpisei to endexomeno epistrateyshs twn ekpaideytikwn.

ANTWNAROS: Einai h deyterh fora poy me rwtate se dyo synexomena briefing gia to idio qema. H apanthsh einai ayth poy sas edwsa thn Paraskeyh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Sto idio qema. Ekeino poy den mporw na katalabw einai h trith ebdomada poy oi ekpaideytikoi apergoyn kai probainoyn se kinhtopoihseis. To erwthma moy einai to ejhs: Den mporw na katalabw, gia poio logo h kybernhsh den ypanaxwrei, toylaxiston ws pros tis dikes ths proqeseis kai den erxetai se dialogo, mesw ths k. Giannakoy, me toys ekpaideytikoys, prokeimenoy toylaxiston na stamathsei ayth h apergia, h opoia, an den kanw laqos, den symferei oyte toys idioys toys daskaloys, oyte toys goneis, oyte toys maqhtes. Den mporw na katalabw, gia poio logo yparxei ayth h akamcia apo thn pleyra ths k. Giannakoy kai ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei kamia akamcia. H kybernhsh, opws gnwrizete, pragmatopoihse thn proeklogikh ths desmeysh kai exei anakoinwsei hdh thn paroxh epidomatos, ycoys 105 eyrw, se eji ejamhniaies doseis, stoys daskaloys. Ayta ginontai mesa sta plaisia twn antoxwn, ths oikonomias, opws exoyme pei kai thn perasmenh ebdomada. Den nomizw oti polloi Ellhnes polites qa deijoyn katanohsh gia tis apaithseis mias omadas ergazomenwn poy zhtaei ayjhsh ths tajhs toy 45%.

BLAXOS: Epiqymei h kybernhsh, oi daskaloi na gyrisoyn tapeinwmenoi sta sxoleia; Skeftetai aytes tis eji ejamhniaies doseis na tis kanei tesseris, dioti exw thn entypwsh, akoygontas ton k. Mprath, na qewrw oti yparxei mia diejodos sthn periptwsh poy h kybernhsh toys dwsei ayth th dynatothta na poyn oti kati petyxan. Exete th boylhsh na dwsete thn aisqhsh stoys daskaloys oti kati petyxan gia na spasei ayth h istoria h qelete na gyrisoyn tapeinwmenoi;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei kanei mia sygkekrimenh anakoinwsh, h opoia shmainei kai ylopoihsh mias proeklogikhs desmeyshs thn opoia eixe analabei. Ekeino poy epiqymei h kybernhsh einai na epanaleitoyrghsoyn omala ta sxoleia ths xwras.

SIDERHS: Kat` arxas, s` ayto to qema, oi eji ejamhniaies doseis, to megalo meros toys, qa ylopoihqoyn apo thn epomenh kybernhsh. Me poio dikaiwma desmeyete eseis thn epomenh kybernhsh kai poy jerete poia qa einai;

ANTWNAROS: To kratos exei synexeia.

SIDERHS: Ti ekane h kybernhsh gi` ayth thn paraqesmikh leitoyrgia ths astynomias me tis kameres; Otan sas legame gia tis kameres, mas legate oti einai symfwna me ta dedomena ths Arxhs Prostasias Proswpikwn Dedomenwn. Atyxws, h Arxh Prostasias Dedomenwn, brhke 49 kameres stis opoies den eixan egkatasthsei logismiko apokrychs eikonwn. Kameres poy parakoloyqoysan diadhlwtes. Epidokimazei h kybernhsh ayth th symperifora ths astynomias; An oxi, prokeitai gia mia paraqesmikh symperifora;

ANTWNAROS: Exete ypoch sas thn anakoinwsh toy Ypoyrgeioy Dhmosias Tajhs;

SIDERHS: Nai.

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw, loipon, ekei efoson thn exete ypoch sas.

SIDERHS: Kai egw sas parapempw sthn Arxh Prostasias Proswpikwn Dedomenwn, h opoia...

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, asxeta me to an oi polites dikaiwsoyn h den dikaiwsoyn mia koinwnikh omada poy einai se kinhtopoihseis, h kybernhsh skeptetai na kanei kati gia na anoijoyn ta sxoleia poy einai kleista gia trith synexh ebdomada kai den jeroyme ti na kanoyme me ta paidia mas;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh kanei ola ekeina gia ta opoia exei desmeytei. Proxwrei se sygkekrimenes kinhseis. Epishs, sto xwro ths Paideias, exei ylopoihsei sygkekrimenes desmeyseis ths, af` otoy anelabe thn eyqynh ths diakybernhshs ths xwras, ton Martio toy 2004. Synepws, oi yperbolikes apaithseis einai ekeines poy den dieykolynoyn ayth th stigmh thn epanaleitoyrgia twn sxoleiwn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Apo th mia einai oi ekpaideytikoi, oi opoioi synexizoyn gia trith synexh ebdomada thn apergia toys. Apo thn allh oi trapezikoi proanaggelloyn kinhtopoihseis. Anarwtiemai, mhpws exei dikio telika o eidikos symboylos toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kefalogiannhs, o opoios leei oti ean telika h antipoliteysh kai orismenes syntexnies polwsoyn to klima me tis kinhtopoihseis, tote den exei kanena logo h kybernhsh kai proswpika o Prwqypoyrgos na mhn paei se ekloges.

ANTWNAROS: Den eimai egw ekeinos o opoios synthrei ayth th syzhthsh, alla eseis.

PALAIOLOGOS: Rwtaw, ean dikaiwnetai h problech poy ekane o k. Kefalogiannhs.

ANTWNAROS: H topoqethsh poy ekana einai jekaqarh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, alla egw sas anefera oti yparxoyn dyo koinwnikes omades, oi opoies telika synexizoyn tis kinhtopoihseis.

ANTWNAROS: Efoson den sas arkei h kentrikh topoqethsh toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy, den mporw na kanw kati allo, apo to na thn epanalabw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Mhpws erxetai se plhrh diafwnia me ayth toy eidikoy symboyloy toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

BLAXOS: Na symperanoyme oti egine parathrhsh ston k. Kefalogiannh apo to Megaro Majimoy, gi` aytes tis dhlwseis toy;

ANTWNAROS: Na mhn symperanete tipote. Aplws, na diabazete prosektika, ti leei to kaqe stelexos otan dinei mia synenteyjh.

ANTWNOPOYLOS: Eipate prin, oti to qema prowrwn eklogwn egeiretai apo alloys kai oxi apo ta kybernhtika stelexh.. Qelete na ginete pio sygkekrimenos;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw kati se osa eipa.

GKOYTZANHS: Ektos apo ton k. Kefalogiannh, poy, telos pantwn, leei ayta poy leei kai o Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti den symprattei se klima polwshs. Oti h ojythta, h polwsh, o dixasmos eblacan ton topo kai den qa symprajei se ayto. Diabazw th dhlwsh etsi opws toylaxiston exei apodoqei apo thn efhmerida mesa se eisagwgika.

ANTWNAROS: Qa sas parakaloysa mono na mh moy diabazete apospasmata apo efhmerides, alla na moy paraqesete aytoysia th dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

BLAXOS: Na th diabasoyme oloklhrh;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. Alla mh moy metaferete ti grafoyn oi efhmerides. Emena oi phges moy den einai oi efhmerides, einai ta epishma keimena.

GKOYTZANHS: Einai apo thn proxqesinh omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy. De nomizw oti thn paraxarassw, einai safes...

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa oti thn paraxarassete. Den isxyristhka kati tetoio.

GKOYTZANHS: Oyte oti den apodidw to nohma ths. Nomizw oti...

ANTWNAROS: Allo to nohma kai allo oi akribeis lejeis. En pash periptwsei pantws... .

GKOYTZANHS: Ayth einai pantws h dhlwsh kai to exei pei kai alles fores se omilies toy o k. Karamanlhs. H erwthsh moy einai h ejhs: Poy yparxei polwsh kai dixasmos. Giati mas dhmioyrgeitai emas h entypwsh oti opote h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh askei antipoliteytikh kritikh, opws exei ypoxrewsh apo to Syntagma, h opote kapoies koinwnikes omades diekdikoyn, opws exoyn dikaiwma sto plaisio ths Dhmokratias, tote pia h kybernhsh kanei logo gia dixasmo kai polwsh.

ANTWNAROS: Xairomai poy anaferqhkate ston Prwqypoyrgo, dioti sas ypenqymizw oti ayth einai mia ametablhth, pagia, staqerh qesh thn opoia exei o Prwqypoyrgos apo thn epoxh poy htan akomh arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Sas ypenqymizw oti ton Maio toy 2001 apantwntas se antistoixes topoqethseis toy tote Prwqypoyrgoy, eixe pei epi lejei o k. Karamanlhs oti ``ws epomenos Prwqypoyrgos qa erqei oxi gia na dixasei toys Ellhnes, alla gia na toys enwsei''. Ayth h politikh qesh arxhs isxyei sto akeraio. Den einai kati kainoyrgio. Den einai kati poy leei o k. Karamanlhs mono afotoy egine Prwqypoyrgos ths xwras.

BLAXOS: Anafereste se dhlwsh poy ekane o k. Karamanlhs gia ton tote Prwqypoyrgo k. Shmith. Ennow ton arxaggelo ths diaplokhs;

SIDERHS: Arxierea.

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa.

SIDERHS: An o k. Papandreoy eixe pei ton Prwqypoyrgo ``Arxierea ths diafqoras'' qa htan sta plaisia (den akoygetai).

ANTWNAROS: Mhn mperdeyete entelws diaforetika pragmata.

BLAXOS: Poia einai h diafora k. Ekproswpe; Ektos ean paradexteite oti to eipe gia koplimento ston k. Shmith, opote qa symfwnhsoyme.

ANTWNAROS: Den qa kanoyme syzhthsh, den qa ginei h enhmerwsh sto xwro ayto me apopeires asteismoy.

GKOYTZANHS: Symperainw apo thn apanthsh sas k. Ekproswpe oti aytes oi anafores toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai monimes, ginontai se takta xronika diasthmata kai den sxetizontai me th sygkyria thn opoia pernoyme twra.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh den prokeitai se kamia periptwsh na parasyrqei apo thn prospaqeia thn opoia kataballei o k. Papandreoy na odhghsei th xwra se polwsh, se mhdenismo, se laikismo. Oi Ellhnes polites kai qymoyntai kai jeroyn kai sygkrinoyn kai pairnoyn tis apofaseis toys.

SPYRAKH: Me sygxwreite poy epimenw sto qema ths Paideias, alla einai to koryfaio zhthma. Qelw na rwthsw ean exoyn perielqei ypoch toy Prwqypoyrgoy ta pososta symmetoxhs sthn apergia twn daskalwn kai ean ayta exete th dynatothta na mas ta dwsete ws epishmh phgh.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na sas dwsw kanena pososto. Asfalws den elegxoyme toys Ellhnes, oi opoioi krinoyn, efoson to krinoyn, oti qeloyn na metasxoyn se mia kinhtopoihsh.

SPYRAKH: Ta dedomena einai diaforetika.

SARANTAKOS: H dhlwsh toy k. Kefalogiannh thn opoia ekane shmera htan jekaqarh. Oti ean synexistei h ojynsh apo thn antipoliteysh kai sygkekrimenes koinwnikes omades, o Prwqypoyrgos exei th dynatothta kai qa exei kaqe logo na to kanei, na zhthsei laikh entolh. To erwthma pros esas einai oti yparxei ena endexomeno prowrwn eklogwn.

ANTWNAROS: Kai sas apanthsa. Moy apeyqynete erwthma me thn idiothta moy ws Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy kai topoqetoymai ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, o opoios exei thn entolh na pairnei qesh se erwthmata ta opoia apeyqynetai eseis edw, ws ekproswpoi twn MME.

KAKALHS: Ep' aytoy, eipate oti de shmainei ayto oti qa ginoyn ekloges, omws h kybernhsh epikaleitai thn prowrh prosfygh stis kalpes san fobhtro, san ``mpampoyla'' apenanti stis (den akoygetai) kinhtopoihsh twn ergazomenwn.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh thn opoia exw thn timh na ekproswpw se ayto to xwro den epikaleitai tipota sxetiko me ayto poy ypainixqhkate molis.

BLAXOS: O Prwqypoyrgos skeptetai akomh na paei sthn Agkyra gia epishmh episkech meta tis dhlwseis Erntogan kai Sezer;

ANTWNAROS: Exei apanthsei ep' aytoy shmera ejerxomenh ek toy Megaroy Majimoy h Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Mpakogiannh.

BLAXOS: Exei apanthsei stis dhlwseis. Egw rwtw ... .

ANTWNAROS: H k. Mpakogiannh exei kanei dhlwseis ep' aytoy ejerxomenh shmera toy Megaroy Majimoy. Anazhthste tis.

SPYRAKH: Pote htan h teleytaia fora poy o Prwqypoyrgos eixe synergasia me to symboylo toy k. Giannh Kefalogiannh.

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw. O Prwqypoyrgos exei syxnes synergasies.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa epanelqw sto qema toy k. Kefalogiannh. Epeidh ermhneyw h prospaqw na ermhneysw sto metro poy mporw th dhlwsh toy k. Kefalogiannh, o opoios afhnei na ennohqei oti endexomenws na yparjei meqodeysh apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs gia ojynsh toy politikoy klimatos me aformh tis kinhtopoihseis...

ANTWNAROS: Sas exw pei kai alles fores oti asfalws exete kai to dikaiwma kai th dynatothta kai thn eyxereia kai sxolia na kanete kai ermhneies kai analyseis. Dikh moy apostolh omws einai na kanw sygkekrimenes topoqethseis.

PALAIOLOGOS: Egw rwthsa omws an yparxei meqodeysh. Giati prokyptei apo ta legomena toy k. Kefalogiannh h meqodeysh gia na pame se paromoies lyseis.

ANTWNAROS: Exw apanthsei sto sygkekrimeno qema me apolyth safhneia.

SARANTAKOS: Eipate ayrio qa synedriasei h Kentrikh Epitroph gia qemata ejwterikhs politikhs. An den apatwmai ...

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa ayto. Eipa gia qemata poy aforoyn to Ypoyrgeio Politismoy. Epishs, qa enhmerwsei h k. Mpakogiannh ta melh ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs gia qemata poy eixan sxesh me to prosfato tajidi ths.

SARANTAKOS: Zhthse kai o Prwqypoyrgos pro hmerhsias diatajews syzhthsh se epipedo arxhgwn kommatwn gia thn ejwterikh politikh;

ANTWNAROS: Molis yparjei kati qa sas gnwstopoihqei.

LEONTITSH: Prin apo liges meres ekproswpoi twn daskalwn zhthsan ranteboy me ton Prwqypoyrgo. 'Exei doqei epishmh apanthsh stoys ekpaideytikoys;

ANTWNAROS: Den problepetai tetoia synanthsh. Den exei programmatistei tetoia synanthsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Me aformh tis dhlwseis toy Sezer o opoios eqese qema toyrkikhs meionothtas  einai pollosth fora poy to kanei ayto apo thn pleyra ths h Toyrkia h 'Agkyra  kai anarwtiemai telika ean olo ayto to ntabantoyri, as moy epitrapei h ekfrash, peri ellhnotoyrkikhs proseggishs apotelei pomfolyga.

ANTWNAROS: H qesh ths xwras mas einai safhs. Sthn Ellada yparxei mia meionothta kai ayth einai h moysoylmanikh meionothta, ta melh ths opoias apolambanoyn opws allwste oloi oi 'Ellhnes polites, ta agaqa ths isonomias kai ths isopoliteias poy isxyei, poy epikratoyn sth xwra mas.

SIDERHS: Me to kleisimo twn ergasiwn ths Boylhs, ejelipe kai h dynatothta askhshs poinikwn diwjewn se politika proswpa. Omws oi kathgories sas emmenoyn, yparxoyn kai sto dihnekes qa yparxoyn kai qa yparxei h spilwsh kapoiwn proswpwn. Giati den metatrepetai thn ejetastikh se proanakritikh wste na apodwsete politikes eyqynes, estw kai ean den mporoyn na doqoyn poinikes.

ANTWNAROS: Gia to qema ayto exw topoqethqei apo thn Paraskeyh. Den exw na prosqesw kati.

PALAIOLOGOS: Xqes o k. Papaqanasioy poy exei kataqesei prosfata agwgh se efhmerida, erwthqeis se synenteyjh gia to an exei koinwnikes epafes me epixeirhmaties, den to arnhqhke. Eipe xarakthristika kai oti exei paei sto spiti epixeirhmatiwn opws toy k. Filippoy kai pollwn allwn. Anarwtiemai tote poio htan to kinhtro kai h skopimothta en telei na proxwrhsei se agwgh kata mias efhmeridas poy epikalesthke to gegonos oti egine kapoia proeklogikh synanthsh sto spiti epixeirhmatia;

ANTWNAROS: Lypamai poy qa to pw. Den qelw na paristanw ton daskalo se ayth thn aiqoysa. Qa sas parakaloysa omws na diabazete me perissoterh akribeia ta osa exoyn graftei kai osa exei apanthsei sxetika me ayta poy exoyn diatypwqei ws isxyrismoi enantion toy, o Yfypoyrgos k. Papaqanasioy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den einai epilhcimo na exei enas politikos sxeseis kai epafes me epixeirhmaties.

ANTWNAROS: Exw apanthsei.

KAKALHS: H k. Mpakogiannh, ejerxomenh toy Megaroy Majimoy, eipe oti h Toyrkia, qa prepei na apofasisei an qa timhsei tis ypoxrewseis ths. H erwthsh einai: H kybernhsh exei apofasisei ti qa kanei, an h Toyrkia den timhsei tis ypoxrewseis ths h qa akoloyqhsei thn taktikh toy ``blepontas kai kanontas'', ws synhqws dhladh.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh efarmozei se oloys toys tomeis sygkekrimenh politikh. Exei sygkekrimenh strathgikh thn opoia exei xarajei kai perimenei apo thn Toyrkia na antapokriqei plhrws stis desmeyseis tis opoies exei analabei h Toyrkia, oxi enanti ths Ellados, alla enanti twn 25 kratwn-melwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: H erwthsh elege to ejhs: An h Toyrkia den thrhsei tis yposxeseis ths, h Ellada ti qa kanei; Qa balei beto;

ANTWNAROS: Den perimenete asfalws apo emena na apanthsw se ypoqetikh erwthsh kai malista se ena qema to opoio einai toso lepto...

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Jekaqaro qema...

ANTWNAROS:....Opws einai ta qemata ejwterikhs politikhs. Qemata poy aforoyn tis sxeseis ths xwras mas kai me thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai me th geitonikh xwra.

BLAXOS: Den einai ypoqetiko to erwthma.

ANTWNAROS: To erwthma einai ypoqetiko.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: H qesh ths Toyrkias einai safhs kai sygkekrimenh.

BLAXOS: Yparxei dhlwsh, xqes, toy Prwqypoyrgoy ths Toyrkias k. Erntogan, poy leei oti emeis den qa ylopoihsoyme. Den einai ypoqetiko, einai epishmh dhlwsh. Ara einai mia pragmatikothta, h opoia yparxei apo xqes kai den einai ypoqetikh.

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw sth dhlwsh poy ekane h Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Mpakogiannh, ejerxomenh shmera apo to Megaro Majimoy.

MANH: Oi antoxes ths ellhnikhs oikonomias poy epikalesthkate prin sthn erwthsh gia toys daskaloys, epitrepoyn se enan ypoyrgo na jodeyei 355 xiliades eyrw gia kataskeyes mias meras gia na kanei mia ekdhlwsh kai na tis jhlwnei thn epomenh; Anaferomai sto dhmosieyma ths ``Kyriakatikhs Eleyqerotypias'' gia ton Ypoyrgo Emporikhs Naytilias k. Kefalogiannh.

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto armodio ypoyrgeio.

MANH: Esas den sas enoxlhse;

ANTWNAROS: Einai eidiko qema gia to opoio den eimai se qesh ayth th stigmh na apanthsw.

Sas eyxaristw.


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