Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-04-14

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Aqhna, 14 Aprilioy 2006

JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs oloklhrwnei thn epishmh episkech toy sth Boylgaria kai epistrefei, opws allwste sas eixame anakoinwsei, sth Qessalonikh.

To apogeyma, o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei to Kilkis. Epanalambanw to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto Kilkis.

Shmera stis 18:30, qa episkefqei to Nosokomeio toy Kilkis, stis 19:00 qa episkefqei th Nomarxia kai qa exei synanthsh me ton Nomarxh kai stis 19:30 o Prwqypoyrgos qa milhsei sto kleisto gymnasthrio ths polhs.

Ayrio Sabbato 15 Aprilioy kai thn Kyriakh 16 Aprilioy, o Prwqypoyrgos qa brisketai sth Qessalonikh. To programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Qessalonikh exei ws ejhs:

Ayrio, stis 09:00, o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei to Ypoyrgeio Makedonias
-Qrakhs, opoy qa ginei syskech gia thn poreia ylopoihshs toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Stis 10:15, o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei to xwro anegershs toy neoy Dhmarxiakoy Megaroy Qessalonikhs. Thn Kyriakh 16 Aprilioy, o Prwqypoyrgos stis 09:30 qa exei synanthsh sto Kyberneio, me ton Nomarxh Qessalonikhs k. Cwmiadh kai stis 10:30 qa exei th synanthsh poy sas exw anaferei hdh, me toys Ypoyrgoys Politismoy ths Notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs, epishs sto Kyberneio.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

IWANNOY: Me ton k. Papagewrgopoylo den qa synanthqei;

ANTWNAROS: Qa episkefqoyn mazi to ypo anegersh dhmarxiako ktirio.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Epeidh exoyn pei apolymenoi apo th Naoysa kai diaforoi ergazomenoi, telos pantwn, poy antidroyn sthn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy oti qeloyn na ton synanthsoyn, se periptwsh poy epixeirhsoyn na ton synanthsoyn, qa toys dexqei o Prwqypoyrgos;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw tipote. To programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai sygkekrimeno, problepei sygkekrimenes synanthseis. Opws gnwrizete, oi synanthseis me ton Prwqypoyrgo orizontai ek twn proterwn.

POYLIDOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw na sas rwthsw, ean qa apeyqynete sygxarhthrio mhnyma ston k. Pronti.

ANTWNAROS: Qa ginei o,ti akoloyqeitai sth dieqnh praktikh, opws sas exw pei.

POYLIDOY: Exoyn bgei ta epishma apotelesmata, gi` ayto sas lew, kai oi perissoteres eyrwpaikes kybernhseis exoyn hdh apeyqynei ta sygxarhthria toys.

ANTWNAROS: O Prwqypoyrgos epistrefei se ligh wra sthn Ellada kai qa kanei o,ti epiballei h dieqnhs diplwmatikh praktikh.

IWANNOY: Exw dyo erwthseis. Sto prohgoymeno qema poy rwthse o synadelfos k. Papadhmhtrioy, gia tis synanthseis kai to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, exoyme sygkekrimenes dhlwseis ergazomenwn sta Fwsforika Lipasmata, oi opoioi oysiastika proeidopoioyn oti qa apokleisoyn ola ta shmeia ta opoia qa episkefqei o Prwqypoyrgos, prokeimenoy na mporesoyn na ton synanthsoyn. Epeidh to jerete ek prooimioy kai to exete akoysei profanws kai eseis, to exete symperilabei sthn atzenta toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

ANTWNAROS: Na exoyme symperilabei ti;

IWANNOY: To an, telika, qa dexqei na toys dei. Dioti to aithma toys to exoyn edw kai polles hmeres dhlwsei.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. To programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai sygkekrimeno.

IWANNOY: Kai an ton apokleisoyn;

ANTWNAROS: Thn kykloforia stoys dhmosioys dromoys den mporei na thn diakoptoyn mikres omades. Oi Ellhnes polites prepei na mporoyn na xrhsimopoioyn toys dhmosioys dromoys eleyqera gia tis metakinhseis toys.

IWANNOY: Qa hqela na rwthsw sygkekrimena, o k. Palaiokrassas me to ypomnhma poy kateqese ston Eisaggelea prin apo liges hmeres, kanei logo gia diaplokh sto Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs kai gia sxeseis epixeirhmatiwn me stelexh toy Ypoyrgeioy. Qa qelame mia sygkekrimenh apanthsh. Jeroyme oti to qema einai sth Dikaiosynh, alla mia politikh apanthsh gia tis kataggelies.

ANTWNAROS: Opws eipate ki eseis, gia mia ypoqesh poy einai sth Dikaiosynh, egw den exw na kanw kanena sxolio. Exw epikoinwnhsei me ton Ypoyrgo Anaptyjhs k. Sioyfa kai eimai bebaios oti gia opoiodhpote allo qema poy einai synafes, qa sas dwsei, ean epikoinwnhsete mazi toy, opoiadhpote plhroforia xreiazeste.

LEONTITSH: H kybernhsh epikrotei thn kinhsh toy k. Palaiokrassa na prosfygei sth Dikaiosynh;

ANTWNAROS: Den einai qema ths kybernhshs. O kaqe poliths symperiferetai, opws ekeinos krinei oti prepei na symperiferqei. Den einai qema na epikrotei h na mhn epikrotei h ellhnikh kybernhsh.

LEONTITSH: An symfwnei@

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw tipota. To qema brisketai sth Dikaiosynh.

KAKALHS: Dyo erwthseis. Se o,ti afora thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto Kilkis, o Prwqypoyrgos exei na pei kati stoys 120.000 anergoys ths Kentrikhs Makedonias h stoys agrotes poy poyloyn ta mhxanhmata toys gia na epibiwsoyn;

ANTWNAROS: Perimenete na deite ti qa pei o Prwqypoyrgos. Den prokeitai egw na prokatalabw osa qa pei o Prwqypoyrgos, shmera to brady, sto Kilkis.

KAKALHS: H deyterh erwthsh se o,ti afora to ypomnhma toy k. Palaiokrassa. Anaferei sygkekrimena oti to sxedio apeleyqerwshs ths agoras energeias synista apistia kata ths DEH, afoy kaleitai h DEH na epidothsei toys idiwtes antagwnistes ths. H kybernhsh synypologizei, analogizetai mallon to endexomeno na breqei kathgoroymenh gia apistia se baros ths DEH; Dhladh, gia ena egklhma, gia ena skandalo sthn pragmatikothta.

ANTWNAROS: Opws sas eipa, h ypoqesh brisketai sth Dikaiosynh. Tipote allo.

PALAIOLOGOS: Yparxei ena dhmosieyma shmera se efhmerida, to opoio anaferetai sthn agora enos mhxanhmatos, to opoio qa exei th dynatothta, opws leei, na topoqetei ta mikrotsips sta nea diabathria. Kai anaferetai se kapoia erwthmata poy prokyptoyn, giati ayto to mhxanhma, opws anaferei h efhmerida, exei peripesei se axrhstia kai h ylopoihsh ths symbashs exei empodia. Emfanizetai idiwths o opoios feretai, ektos twn allwn oti exei sxesh kai me oikonomiko paragonta, fila proskeimeno me stelexh ths kybernhshs. Ti exete na peite;

ANTWNAROS: Oles oi prajeis oi opoies exoyn sxesh me thn ekdosh diabathriwn eginan sto plaisio ths nomimothtas kai me plhrh diasfalish toy dhmosioy symferontos kai me stoxo bebaiws thn ejasfalish ths kalyterhs dynaths poiothtas kata thn ekdosh twn diabathriwn. Ayto shmainei oti ejasfalizetai me ton kalytero dynato tropo to adiablhto twn diabathriwn. Ep` aytoy qa ekdwsei anakoinwsh allwste entos ths hmeras, endexomenws me perissoteres leptomereies, kai to armodio Ypoyrgeio.

SIDERHS: Ginate sofoteros xqes apo th syzhthsh twn politikwn arxhgwn sth Boylh gia thn oikonomia; Maqate tis prooptikes ths, tis dynatothtes ths, tis adynamies ths;

ANTWNAROS: Ofeilw na omologhsw oti enw parakoloyqoysa me megalo endiaferon kai perimena na dw ti qa pei o arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, poy edw kai poly kairo prospaqei na ejhghsei ston ellhniko lao ti qelei na pei, apogohteythka. Gia 35 lepta den eipe tipota gia to programma toy kommatos toy.. Kai gia ta ypoloipa 2@-3@ poy anaferqhke sto dhqen programma toy PASOK, den paroysiase kanena programma. Antiqeta, o Prwqypoyrgos k. Karamanlhs, gia mia akomh fora, me apolyth safhneia, paroysiase to programma ths shmerinhs kybernhshs poy -opws gnwrizete kai oi ariqmoi einai safeis, oi deiktes ta lene ola- paroysiazei hdh apta apotelesmata.

SIDERHS: Mporoysate na eiste pio analytikos, giati den bohqa h krish mas na entopisoyme poy htan safhs o Prwqypoyrgos kai poy mas ekane sofoteroys gia thn oikonomia;

ANTWNAROS: Bebaiws. Meta to peras ths shmerinhs enhmerwshs, qa exw th xara na sas dwsw to plhres keimeno ths omilias toy Prwqypoyrgoy, opote to Sabbatokyriako na mporesete na to melethsete se baqos.

SIDERHS: Shmasia exei na mas to eklaikeysete kai na to sygkekrimenopoihsete.

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. Ayto einai dikh sas doyleia.

XRHSTAKOS: Exete kanena neotero gia to maxhtiko ths Polemikhs Aeroporias, to opoio agnoeitai apo to prwi;

ANTWNAROS: Enhmerwqhka apo to armodio Ypoyrgeio liga lepta prin erqw sthn aiqoysa: Oi ereynes synexizontai. Opws gnwrizete, o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas k. Meimarakhs apo shmera to prwi meteixe sthn askhsh ``Kataigida'', epibainontas ths fregatas ``Ydra''. Molis enhmerwqhke apo tis armodies yphresies toy Ypoyrgeioy toy gia to symban, epespeyse thn epistrofh toy sthn Aqhna, diekoce th symmetoxh toy sthn askhsh kai epestrece hdh sto Ypoyrgeio. Opws, epishs, me enhmerwsan apo to Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas, oi ereynes synexizontai me ola ta mesa poy diaqetoyn oi Enoples Dynameis. Oi prospaqeies aneyreshs toy aeroskafoys dysxerainontai apo thn poly pyknh kai poly xamhlh nefwsh sthn perioxh opoy eikazetai oti synebh to symban.

IWANNOY: Qa hqela na epanelqw sto qema toy k. Palaiokrassa. Politika, den qigetai ayth th stigmh h kybernhsh; Den aisqanetai thn anagkh na yperaspistei thn politikh ths sto sygkekrimeno tomea ths anaptyjhs me kapoio politiko sxolio; Ayto einai poy mas kanei entypwsh.

ANTWNAROS: Prokeitai gia thn anafora enos idiwth pleon pros thn ellhnikh Dikaiosynh. Den exw na sxoliasw tipota gia mia ypoqesh poy brisketai sth Dikaiosynh. H politikh ths shmerinhs ellhnikhs kybernhshs sto qema ths energeias exei sygkekrimenes stoxeyseis, einai diafanh, einai apotelesmatikh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den sas kanei entypwsh to gegonos oti o k. Palaiokrassas, ena stelexos poy molis prosfata htan dieyqynwn symboylos kai proedros ths DEH, epimenei se kataggelies, eite graptws, eite prosfeygontas sth Dikaiosynh; Nomizw oti einai stelexos ths eyryterhs kybernhtikhs paratajhs.

ANTWNAROS: Poia einai h erwthsh sas;

PALAIOLOGOS: Lew, den sas kanei entypwsh oti epimenei o k. Palaiokrassas;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi.

PALAIOLOGOS: Giati ayth h epimonh toy; Apo poy aporreei; Dhladh, h dikh sas h aporia ws kybernhsh poia einai;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw egw kamia aporia. Eseis exete thn aporia.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai. Den yparxei enas problhmatismos eyryteros; Giati o k. Palaiokrassas epanaferei kaqe treis kai ligo tis kataggelies toy sth dhmosiothta kai probainei se diafores energeies. Ayto einai poy moy kanei entypwsh. Kai den blepw eseis na antidrate.

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw oti h politikh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs ston tomea ths energeias einai jekaqarh, diafanh kai den exei tipota na fobhqei. Opoios qelei na paei ston eisaggelea, den empodizetai na paei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Exei idioys logoys o k. Palaiokrassas na epimenei se ayth thn istoria;

ANTWNAROS: Den mporw na ypeiselqw sta kinhtra gia ta opoia kanoyn diafores kinhseis, diaforoi Ellhnes polites.

XRHSTAKOS: Se kapoia dhmosieymata Meswn Enhmerwshs, anaferontai plhrofories apo ta osa exei pei o k. Palaiokrassas ston eisaggelea kai mesa ekei anaferontai kai onomata synadelfwn mas dhmosiografwn. Leei loipon kapoio dhmosieyma oti o k. Palaiokrassas zhthse apo thn eisaggelia na zhthsei apo th Grammateia Typoy, onomata dhmosiografwn oi opoioi ameibontai apo to Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs kai apo th DEH, ws symmetexontes se kapoioy eidoys ``kyklwma'' oson afora promhqeies ths DEH. Sas exei zhthqei apo kapoy kati tetoio;

ANTWNAROS: Ej oswn gnwrizw, oxi. Speydw de na sas dieykrinisw oti den eimai politikos proistamenos twn Genikwn Grammateiwn Epikoinwnias kai Enhmerwshs. Parola tayta qa hqela na sas pw gia mia akomh fora: Gia perissoteres leptomereies parakalw na apeyqynqeite ston armodio ypoyrgo k. Sioyfa, o opoios einai proqymos na tis dwsei.

KAKALHS: Eipate oti einai apotelesmatikh h politikh ths kybernhshs sto qema ths energeias. Sta kala kai qetika apotelesmata symperilambanetai kai to oti o omilos Mytilhnaioy sygkentrwnei to 63% twn promhqeiwn ths DEH;

ANTWNAROS: Mia energeiakh politikh krinetai apo para polla stoixeia. Krinetai metajy twn allwn apo tis dieqneis symfwnies, tis opoies kanei mia xwra gia th metafora fysikoy aerioy, gia thn ejasfalish allwn phgwn energeias, gia th diasfalish se baqos xronoy apotelesmatikwn phgwn energeias gia th xwra kai toys polites ths. Eseis epikentrwneste se ena sygkekrimeno qema poy afora mia sygkekrimenh epixeirhsh toy eyryteroy dhmosioy tomea, gia thn opoia parakalw na apeyqynqeite, opws sas eipa prohgoymenws -kai den to lew gia na aposeisw apo panw moy thn eyqynh, alla giati etsi prepei na ginei- sto armodio Ypoyrgeio.

KAKALHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw gia ena paremferes zhthma. Pws sxoliazete thn ajiwsh-ypodeijh toy Amerikanoy presbh na apejarthqei h xwra apo to rwsiko fysiko aerio kai thn GAZ PROM;

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw th dhlwsh poy moy anaferete.

KAKALHS: Den apokleietai ston Ellhna presbh sthn Oyasigkton na pei stis HPA na promhqeytoyn petrelaio apo ton Tsabes.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio. Den gnwrizw, opws sas eipa, th sygkekrimenh dhlwsh.

MOYRTHS: Erxontai giortes, exoyme skoypidia stoys dromoys akoma. Qa rwthsw an diathreite thn proxqesinh sas aisiodojia gia lysh ths apergias xwris na ikanopoihqei to basiko aithma twn apergwn kai deyteron epeidh diatypwsan aithma pros ton Prwqypoyrgo na toys dexqei, qa toys dexqei;

ANTWNAROS: H protash thn opoia exei kanei h kybernhsh kai poy aposkopei sthn epilysh toy aithmatos poy edw kai 18-20 xronia diatypwnoyn oi ergazomenoi ston tomea ths kaqariothtas, einai safhs: Na synanthqoyn me ton armodio ypoyrgo kai toys armodioys paragontes, prokeimenoy na kaqoristoyn poies einai ekeines oi omades apo toys ergazomenoys sthn Topikh Aytodioikhsh poy qa prepei na ypaxqoyn sta barea kai anqygieina epaggelmata, se ena sygkekrimeno xroniko plaisio mexri to telos Maioy. Ayth einai mia protash thn opoia kamia allh kybernhsh sto parelqon den eixe kanei. Sas epanalambanw oti einai safhs protash kai exei sygkekrimeno xroniko plaisio mesa sto opoio qa epelqei h symfwnia. Pragmatika den mporw na antilhfqw, giati mikres omades ejakoloyqoyn na epimenoyn, synexizontas tis kinhtopoihseis toys xwris oysiwdh logo, sth diathrhsh mias katastashs poy prokalei megala problhmata.

KAKALHS: Ma, an einai mikres oi omades, pws einai ta skoypidia stoys dromoys;

ANTWNAROS: An episkefteite perioxes ths Aqhnas, qa parathrhsete oti se polles apo aytes exoyn apomakrynqei ta skoypidia.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Qewreite oti einai ypokinoymenes aytes oi omades;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa proxqes. Den prokeitai na mpw sth diadikasia an einai ypokinoymenes h oxi. Shmasia exei oti enw yparxei sygkekrimenh protash, kwfeyoyn kai den kanoyn ayto poy opoiadhpote allh omada, eimai sigoyros oti qa espeyde na kanei. Epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora: Mesa se dyo xronia exoyn epilyqei 11 aithmata ths idias omadas. Ayto aposiwpatai.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa kanoyme Pasxa me skoypidia. An aytoi kwfeyoyn, opws lete, an eseis epimenete sthn protash sas gia dimhno, mallon qa perasoyme to Pasxa me ta skoypidia.

ANTWNAROS: Mhn protrexete.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa pame se epitajh, epistrateysh;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei ayto poy eipa, dyo h treis fores, ayth thn ebdomada, se ayth thn aiqoysa. Den exei allajei apolytws tipote.

POYLIDOY: Exei allajei h katastash. Xeirotereyoyn ta skoypidia.

ANTWNAROS: Eyxomai Kalo Pasxa se oloys, kales giortes. Qa janasynanthqoyme se ayth thn aiqoysa thn Trith 2 Maioy, dioti opws gnwrizete, h Deytera einai h Prwtomagia.

Sas eyxaristw.

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