Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-04-11

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 11 Aprilioy 2006

JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

IWANNOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, gnwrize h kybernhsh, mesw toy k. Korwnia oti o aeimnhstos Tsalikidhs, eixe paralabei kai gnwrize gia to systhma nomimwn synakroasewn; An to gnwrize, an eixe enhmerwqei.

ANTWNAROS: Opws sas eipan oi treis ypoyrgoi sth synenteyjh Typoy poy paraxwrhsan, o,ti gnwrize h kybernhsh ta edwse sth Dikaiosynh. Ola ta alla stoixeia poy endexomenws prokycoyn, qa ta ajiologhsei h ellhnikh Dikaiosynh.

SPYRAKH: Exw dyo erwthseis. H prwth afora se mia epistolh poy dhmosieyetai shmera sthn efhmerida ``Eleyqerotypia'', epistolh ekproswpwn polyteknwn kai ths opoias to stigma, den gnwrizw kat` arxhn, ean to exete plhroforhqei@

ANTWNAROS: Oxi.

SPYRAKH: Anaferei oti yparxei proeklogikh yposxesh toy Prwqypoyrgoy oti oi triteknoi qa ginoyn apeyqeias polyteknoi. Yposthrizoyn, mesw ths epistolhs toys oi ekproswpoi aytoi twn triteknwn oti ejapathqhkan kai zhtoyn synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Qa hqela, sas parakalw, na sas ypobalw thn erwthsh@

ANTWNAROS: Kat` arxas, den gnwrizw th sygkekrimenh epistolh poy anaferate. Ekeino poy jerw na sas pw einai oti h kybernhsh sto sygkekrimeno qema, opws gnwrizete, sto diasthma twn dyo etwn poy askei th diakybernhsh ths xwras exei labei mia seira metrwn, apo ta opoia wfeloyntai oi oikogeneies me tria paidia. Opws exoyn pei oi armodioi ypoyrgoi, ta metra poy exoyn lhfqei sto sygkekrimeno tomea, den exoyn oloklhrwqei. H kybernhsh eklegetai gia tessera xronia, brisketai sto meson ths qhteias ths, synepws exei akomh mia shmantikh diadromh mprosta ths na dianysei.

SPYRAKH: Piqanothta na synanthqei o Prwqypoyrgos me ekproswpoys twn polyteknwn@;

ANTWNAROS: Den eimai se qesh na sas pw ayth th stigmh. Opws gnwrizete, ypoballontai polla aithmata ston Prwqypoyrgo gia synanthseis. Ta aithmata ayta ajiologoyntai apo to Grafeio toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Opws einai gnwsto se sas poy kalyptete tis drasthriothtes toy Prwqypoyrgoy ginontai polles synanthseis.

SPYRAKH: To deytero poy qelw na sas rwthsw afora se parapona boyleytwn, poy diatypwqhkan sth synanthsh poy egine thn perasmenh Tetarth sthn aiqoysa 261 ths Boylhs, enocei ths ejormhshs klimakioy boyleytwn sthn eparxia. Ekei, loipon, symfwna me to reportaz, ``fwtografhqhkan'' sygkekrimenoi ypoyrgoi oti exoyn to megalo meridio twn diorismwn sto dhmosio kai akoysthkan parapona apo toys boyleytes toy kybernwntos kommatos oti h entypwsh poy dhmioyrgeitai stis eparxies toys einai oti aytoi den dynantai na prowqhsoyn se mia doyleia oyte ena diko toys proswpo. Exete gnwsh aytwn twn peristatikwn; H kybernhsh exei gnwsh toy peristatikoy;

ANTWNAROS: Eimai bebaios oti opoios exei na kanei kapoio parapono eidika ean einai politiko proswpo exei kai to qarros kai th dynamh logoy na to kanei dhmosia.

SARANTAKOS: Den einai dhmosia h ekfrash twn paraponwn otan apeyqynetai sto Geniko Grammatea ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ton k. Stayroy;

ANTWNAROS: Qa moy epitrecete na sas pw oti mia tetoia synanthsh den einai dhmosia. Parola tayta moy metaferete kai seis kai h synadelfos sas, isxyrismoys gia toys opoioys asfalws den mporeite na pistopoihsete oti eginan me ton tropo me ton opoio apodidontai se diafora MME, afoy den hsastan parontes. Xwris ayto na qetei se kamia amfisbhthsh thn ajiopistia twn Meswn. Eimai bebaios oti oi boyleytes olwn twn kommatwn, otan qeloyn na poyn kati, to lene dhmosia.

SARANTAKOS: Kati synafes, tis idies epishmanseis, nomizw oti ekanan kai dhmosia se thleoptikh ekpomph toy staqmoy ``ALTER'' orismenoi ej aytwn.

ANTWNAROS: Alimono ean oi boyleytes olwn twn kommatwn den exoyn to dikaiwma na lene th gnwmh toys.

SARANTAKOS: Kai ena teleytaio synafes erwthma: Qewreite oti oi portes twn grafeiwn twn ypoyrgwn einai anoiktes gia toys boyleytes; Dhladh oloi oi ypoyrgoi exoyn apodexqei kai ylopoioyn tis odhgies toy Prwqypoyrgoy poy kata kairoys toys exei dwsei sxetika me ayto to qema;

ANTWNAROS: Alimono, ean oi ypoyrgoi den akoloyqoyn tis odhgies toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Gnwrizw oti oi ypoyrgoi synantioyntai taktika me toys boyleytes.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Giati eiste toso kathgorhmatikos gia thn ajiopistia twn MME;

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa tipote tetoio.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Den erwtw ayto. Symplhrwsate kai eipate oti den qelete na amfisbhthsete@

ANTWNAROS: Ma, den mporw na amfisbhthsw kati poy apodidetai apo ta Mesa oti egine. Parola tayta, epeidh egw den hmoyn parwn kai eikazw oti den htan parontes kai ekeinoi oi opoioi synqetoyn ta sygkekrimena dhmosieymata, qa moy epitrecete na diathrhsw mia epifylajh sto kata poson osa apodidontai oti eipwqhkan, eipwqhkan pragmati etsi.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Symplhrwsate, ektos apo ayta poy eipate, oti ``den qelw na amfisbhthsw@''

ANTWNAROS: Sto sygkekrimeno qema, den exw logo na to amfisbhthsw. Se alla qemata@

PAPADOPOYLOS: Eiste toso sigoyros gia thn ajiopistia twn Meswn;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti se alla qemata poy exw logo na ekfrasw amfibolies to kanw. To ekana allwste kai xqes.

RABANOS: Enocei ths episkechs toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy sthn Kentrikh Makedonia, yparxoyn plhrofories oti etoimazontai ekdhlwseis diamartyrias apo diaforoys koinwnikoys foreis. Prwton, ean ayto problhmatizei thn kybernhsh kai deyteron, ean yparxei skech na tropopoihqei to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

ANTWNAROS: Kat` arxas, den nomizw oti exei anakoinwqei kanena programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

RABANOS: Yparxei plhroforia oti qa episkefqei treis sygkekrimenoys nomoys.

ANTWNAROS: To programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, otan oristikopoihqei, opws ginetai pantote, qa sas anakoinwqei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate ``alimono, ean oi boyleytes den lene th gnwmh toys''. Merikoi poy eipan th gnwmh toys omws h diegrafhsan h eteqhsan ektos kommatwn h toys afaireqhkan kapoia dikaiwmata, opote den mporoyn na poyn eleyqera th gnwmh toys.

ANTWNAROS: Qa diafwnhsw mazi sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Polyzos th gnwmh toy eipe.

ANTWNAROS: Qa diafwnhsw mazi sas. Ekeino to opoio ennow, einai oti to na ekfrasei kapoios boyleyths ena parapono, mia enstash gia kati, einai anafaireto dikaiwma toy. Alla den einai oles oi periptwseis idies.

GARGALAKOS: Mia dieykrinish qa hqela. Eipate oti qa ylopoihqei entos ths tetraetias, h proeklogikh yposxesh oti oi triteknes oikogeneies qa katagrafoyn ws polyteknes;

ANTWNAROS: Eipa oti ta metra den exoyn oloklhrwqei. Briskomaste akomh sto meson ths tetraetias. Opote qa prepei na perimenoyme na dianyqei kai o ypoloipos xronos.

IWANNOY: Apo ayta poy eipate eikazw oti efoson den amfisbhteite ta Mesa, alla wstoso diathreite mia epifylajh gia ola ayta poy metaferqhkan, katalabainw oti oi boyleytes endexomenws na meteferan kaq` yperbolhn ta osa eipwqhkan sth sygkekrimenh synedriash.

ANTWNAROS: Den mporw na sxoliasw kati to opoio den gnwrizw.

IWANNOY: Par` ola ayta, qelw na rwthsw, h kybernhsh lambanei sobara ayta ta parapona kai tis diamartyries, kyriws ws pros toys diorismoys poy kanoyn ypoyrgoi kai skeptetai, an den to exei kanei, na milhsei stoys ypoyrgoys;

ANTWNAROS: Qa moy epitrecete na sas pw oti oi diorismoi den ginontai apo toys ypoyrgoys. Exoyn perasei ekeinoi oi kairoi. Sto ellhniko Dhmosio oi diorismoi ginontai mesw ASEP.

RABANOS: Qa epanelqw sthn arxikh moy erwthsh. Se syndyasmo me to asxhmo klima poy metaferoyn oi boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias apo thn perifereia, se syndyasmo me thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy, prohgoymenws sas eipa oti ginontai kinhseis gia na yparjoyn ekdhlwseis diamartyrias, me aformh thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Ayto anhsyxei kai problhmatizei thn kybernhsh, se syndyasmo kai me thn gkrinia poy metaferoyn oi boyleytes apo tis perifereies toys.

ANTWNAROS: Anafereste synexws se ena ypotiqemeno programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, se kati poy qa kanei -opws lete- o Prwqypoyrgos, kapoy poy ypotiqetai oti qa paei, th stigmh poy to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy den exei anakoinwqei epishmws. Synepws, yparxoyn endexomenes kinhtopoihseis kai se perioxes poy den qa episkefqei o Prwqypoyrgos.

FOYRLHS: Me poies parametroys diamorfwnetai to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy; Gia na eimai pio safhs, ekei poy yparxoyn sobara problhmata h poy qewroyn oi anqrwpoi oti exoyn problhmata kai qeloyn na ta ekfrasoyn ston Prwqypoyrgo, o idios h oi synergates toy, toy proteinoyn na einai parwn;

ANTWNAROS: Ypoballontai polles protaseis ston Prwqypoyrgo. Opws gnwrizete, o Prwqypoyrgos episkeptetai, se takta xronika diasthmata, diafores perioxes ths xwras apo thn epoxh poy htan arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs kai ayto synexizetai mexri shmera. Oi ypoballomenes protaseis ajiologoyntai apo toys synergates toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai fysika kai apo ton idio. Me bash ayth thn ajiologhsh pragmatopoioyntai oi episkeceis toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai sthn perioxh ths prwteyoysas kai sthn perifereia.

MANH: Edw kai enamish xrono peftoyme panw sto idio reportaz. Dhladh, ana ena, dyo mhnes katagrafoyme boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias poy paraponioyntai sta kommatika h ta kybernhtika stelexh h stoys ypoyrgoys oti den mporei na kanoyn roysfetia h oti oi ypoyrgoi kanoyn roysfetia gia parth toys kai den mporei na ta kanoyn oi idioi kai panta katagrafoyme tis idies apanthseis: ``Qa diorqwqei, qa ginei katamerismos''. Olo ayto, synadei me ta peri ajiokratias poy eixate pei proeklogika. Kai epeidh eixate pei prin oti oi diorismoi ginontai mesw ASEP kai swsta, oi symbaseis omws den ginontai mesw ASEP. Exoyn yparjei polla reportaz kai para polles epwnymes kataggelies gia th nea genia syntajioyxwn, ta opoia den diaceysthkan. Dhladh, den exw katagracei pote@

ANTWNAROS: Qa moy epitrecete na amfisbhthsw ta stoixeia poy epikaleiste.

MANH: Einai dhmosieymena.

ANTWNAROS: Exw megalh amfibolia gia ta stoixeia poy moy paraqetete.

MANH: Poia apo ola;

ANTWNAROS: Molis sto telos ths perasmenhs ebdomadas, mia efhmerida paroysiase stoixeia ta opoia den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta.

MANH: Poia;

ANTWNAROS: Sxetika me dhqen diorismoys.

SPYRAKH: Me dedomeno oti kai h kybernhsh den yioqetei ta stoixeia poy erxontai sth dhmosiothta, se sxesh me tis symbaseis, xqes o k. Tasoylas, sthn epimaxh ekpomph toy ALTER, poy anefere kai o k. Sarantakos, o boyleyths Iwanninwn eipe oti h eikona poy yparxei einai oti ginontai aqroa diorismoi. Ayth h eikona yparxei sthn perifereia. Eipe oti kata thn apoch toy h eikona ayth einai ceydhs, alla epishs eipe oti ayth h kybernhsh den exei kanei kanena diorismo se monimh qesh, afhnontas na ennohqei oti profanws kinhqhkan diadikasies gia ergasia se symbasioyxoys. Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh ayth exei kanei katagrafh gia to poses qeseis newn symbasioyxwn plhrwqhkan apo thn periodo poy analabate th diakybernhsh toy topoy mexri ton prohgoymeno mhna.

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw ep` akribws ayta ta opoia isxyrizeste oti anefere o k. Tasoylas. Allwste, o tropos me ton opoion ta epikaleiste, an kai perilambanei antifatika stoixeia, epibebaiwnei osa sas eipa egw.

SPYRAKH: Sas rwtw gia thn oysia toy erwthmatos, ean exete katagrafh gia to poses qeseis symbasioyxwn ston eyrytero dhmosio tomea plhrwqhkan apo thn hmera poy analabate th diakybernhsh toy topoy mexri ton prohgoymeno mhna.

ANTWNAROS: Gnwrizw oti thn perasmenh ebdomada to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn kai sygkekrimena o ypoyrgos k. Paylopoylos edwse sygkekrimeno katalogo, o opoios parapoihqhke apo merida toy Typoy. Deite ton katalogo ayto. Nomizw oti ton exw edw mazi moy. Ean sas endiaferei mporw na sas ton dwsw gia na bgalete ta symperasmata sas.

POYLIDOY: Se ti anaferetai;

ANTWNAROS: Einai katalogos ananewshs symbasewn. Sas eipa na deite to sygkekrimeno katalogo kai qa bgalete asfalh symperasmata.

MANH: Dieykrinistika sthn erwthsh poy ekana, den moy exete apanthsei sto prwto skelos: Ti apanthseis eisprattoyn oi boyleytes sas apo ta stelexh, toys ypoyrgoys kai apo ta koinoboyleytika stelexh; Oti qa diorqwsoyme ton katamerismo twn roysfetiwn;

ANTWNAROS: Den ginontai roysfetia. Einai lejh poy eseis xrhsimopoieite.

SARANTAKOS: Prohgoymenws ekfrasate emmesws thn ikanopoihsh sas oti pragmati oi ypoyrgoi exoyn anoiktes tis portes kai blepoyn toys boyleytes taktikotata. Thn idia ikanopoihsh qa ekfrazate ean sas rwtoysa kai gia toys dioikhtes twn DEKO; Dhladh, gia toys kratikoys leitoyrgoys akoyn toys boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias;

ANTWNAROS: Oi dioikhtes twn DEKO exoyn mia basikh apostolh: Na dioikhsoyn me epityxia kai me apotelesmatikothta tis epixeirhseis, th dioikhsh twn opoiwn toys exei empisteyqei o ellhnikos laos. Peri aytoy prokeitai. Ayto einai to diakybeyma kai ayto einai poy prepei na apodeijoyn oti mporoyn na kanoyn me epityxia.

SARANTAKOS: Ara, moy lete oti den einai ypoxrewmenoi na akoyn toys boyleytes.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Mhpws gnwrizete giati den metadoqhke apo thn ERT h omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, poy ekane sthn ekdhlwsh toy @Economist@;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi, den exw ypoch moy. Qa moy epitrecete na to elegjw.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Me aformh th shmerinh seismikh donhsh sth Zakynqo kai enocei ths toyristikhs periodoy, yparxei kapoia episthmonikh enhmerwsh pros thn kybernhsh gia to analogo qema se ayth thn perioxh;

ANTWNAROS: Qa sas pw, osa moy eipe prin apo ligo, se mia syntomh thlefwnikh enhmerwsh, o Genikos Grammateas Politikhs Prostasias k. Foyrlas. Se epafes poy eixe o k. Foyrlas me toys armodioys episthmones, ton diabebaiwsan oti den yparxei logos anhsyxias. O k. Foyrlas me enhmerwse epishs oti o Nomarxhs apofasise na meinoyn kleista ta sxoleia, prokeimenoy na ginei apo eidikoys, oi opoioi metebhsan epi topoy, o elegxos sta sxolika kthria kai na diapistwqei oti den yparxoyn zhmies kai synepws den syntrexei logos anhsyxias gia toys maqhtes kai tis maqhtries poy foitoyn ekei. Ayth einai h plhroforhsh poy eixa prin apo ligo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate prohgoymenws oti den ginontai diorismoi. Kai me poioys qa efarmosete to programma sas; Me aytoys poy diorise to PASOK ta eikosi prohgoymena xronia;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei pei apo thn arxh oti opoios prokeitai na apasxolhqei sto Dhmosio prepei na plhroi mia basikh proypoqesh: Na einai ajios gia na doylecei sto Dhmosio kai na prosferei ekei tis yphresies toy. Ayto einai poy metraei kai ayto exei shmasia gia emas. Me ayto to basiko stigma politeyetai, kineitai h kybernhsh toy Kwsta Karamanlh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai dyo xronia den diorisate kanenan, den breqhke kanenas ikanos;

ANTWNAROS: Sas protrepw gia mia akomh fora na melethsete ton katalogo poy dhmosiopoihse thn perasmenh ebdomada to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn. Exw thn ypocia oti oxi mono eseis, alla kai oi synadelfoi sas poy kalyptoyn to reportaz toy ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn, den ekanan ton kopo na ton diabasoyn. Isws epeidh einai poly analytikos, isws epeidh periexei polla stoixeia kai apaitei kapoia epejergasia.

SPYRAKH: Mhpws exete thn dynatothta na mas egxeirhsete ayton ton katalogo se ena xroniko diasthma, poy mas dieykolynei kai gia ta deltia mas;

ANTWNAROS: Bebaiws, an kai einai ena keimeno poy einai prosbasimo gia oloys toys dhmosiografoys sto ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn. Kai na sas kanw kai orismenes dieykriniseis ean xreiazeste, molonoti den eimai eidikos gia to qema. Eyxaristws na to kanw.

FOYRLHS: H kybernhsh parakoloyqhse tis ekloges sthn Italia; Kai xwris na mpainete -opws antilambanomai ayto den einai kai efikto- sto sxoliasmo ths oysias toy apotelesmatos, pws antilambaneste thn sklhrh antiparaqesh anamesa stis paratajeis toy k. Mperloyskoni kai toy k. Pronti;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai se kamia periptwsh na sxoliasw th dhmokratikh diadikasia, h opoia elabe xwra sthn Italia. Jerete, stis dhmokraties kaqe sygkekrimeno ariqmo etwn, se emas kaqe tessera xronia, sthn Italia kaqe pente xronia, ean den kanw laqos, ginontai ekloges. Oi ekloges exoyn panta kapoia entash kai ena plaisio mesa sto opoio diejagontai.

FOYRLHS: Wstoso, h mia apo tis dyo paratajeis poy dinoyn ayth thn eklogikh maxh, symmetexei -an mh ti allo- sto Eyrwpaiko Laiko Komma, opws kai h Nea Dhmokratia poy einai kybernhtikh paratajh sthn Ellada.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kanena sxolio gia kanena apo ta kommata ths Italias.

SARANTAKOS: Exete kapoio sxolio gia to gegonos oti xqes oi ergazomenoi stoys OTA, ejhggeilan nees apergiakes kinhtopoihseis thn wra poy o k. Paylopoylos epixeirei na ypobaqmisei epikoinwniaka to qema, legontas oti prokeitai apla kai mono gia mia merida ergazomenwn stoys OTA, th stigmh poy ta skoypidia sxhmatizoyn boyna stis synoikies ths prwteyoysas;

ANTWNAROS: Bebaiws. Ki egw, opws kaqe kalopistos poliths, anarwtiemai giati omades, sto sygkekrimeno xwro, epimenoyn sthn apergiakh toys kinhtopoihsh th stigmh poy h kybernhsh toys exei kanei sygkekrimenh protash wste na syzhthqei kai na doqei lysh se ena qema, poy edw kai eikosi xronia, para tis pieseis, para ta aithmata twn sygkekrimenwn omadwn, kaneis den dexqhke oxi na to lysei, oyte kan na to syzhthsei. H shmerinh kybernhsh (kai exoyn kanei epaneilhmmenes dhlwseis kai o ypoyrgos k. Paylopoylos kai o yfypoyrgos k. Nakos ep` aytoy), proteine th diejagwgh dialogoy, wste mesa se diasthma enamish mhna, mexri tis 31 Maioy, na exoyn katagrafei oles ekeines oi omades, oi opoies qa mporesoyn na ypaxqoyn stis ryqmiseis gia ta barea kai anqygieina epaggelmata. Synepws, den briskw to logo giati synexizetai ayth h apergiakh kinhtopoihsh, th stigmh malista, epanalambanw, poy yparxei sygkekrimenh protash ths kybernhshs.

SARANTAKOS: Qewreite oti einai politika ypokinoymenh ayth h kinhtopoihsh;

ANTWNAROS: Ayto enapokeitai se esas na to krinete. Na epishmanw, omws, oti h aney logoy synexizomenh kinhtopoihsh dhmioyrgei problhmata gia th dhmosia ygeia kai pragmatika qetei diafora erwthmata gia ta kinhtra ekeinwn, oi opoioi synexizoyn thn kinhtopoihsh toys, th stigmh malista poy h kybernhsh exei dwsei lyseis se enteka aithmata -an qymamai kala- twn ergazomenwn sto sygkekrimeno xwro, aithmata ta opoia xronizan. Sas eipa kai xqes oti exw proxeirh th lista aytwn twn aithmatwn. Ean qelete eyxaristws na sas th dwsw. Se diasthma dyo etwn lyqhkan enteka aithmata. Pera ap@ ayto, epanalambanw yparxei kai h proqesh, yparxei h apofasistikothta ths kybernhshs na lysei to sygkekrimeno qema. Den katalabainw, synepws, thn emmonh toys.

SARANTAKOS: Otan eixate epistrateysei toys naytikoys, o k. Roysopoylos mas eixe pei oti to ekane gia na prostateyqoyn alles omades ths koinwnias. Twra poy h dhmosia ygeia kindyneyei na eikasw oti einai ena senario poy ejetazei h kybernhsh, h epistrateysh twn ergazomenwn;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa me apolyth safhneia xqes. Den exei allajei tipota apo th xqesinh topoqethsh moy.

SPYRAKH: Alla, to zhthma toy kindynoy ths dhmosias ygeias paramenei. Den einai qema eikona. Einai pleon qema oysias kai ypoqetw oti eiste apo toys prwtoys poy to katanooyn. Protiqetai h kybernhsh na parei kapoia metra; As poyme, xqes diapistwqhke apo ta thleoptika reportaz oti yparxoyn swroi skoypidiwn ejw apo nosokomeio, apo paidikoys staqmoys, apo sxoleia, xwroi idiaitera eyaisqhtoi gia th dhmosia ygeia. Qa ginei kati;

ANTWNAROS: Eyelpistw oti qa eyaisqhtopoihqoyn ekeinoi oi opoioi prokaloyn toys tonoys skoypidiwn, toso poly oso exei eyaisqhtopoihqei h kybernhsh. Den to blepw mexri stigmhs.

SPYRAKH: Kai ean den eyaisqhtopoihqoyn;

ANTWNAROS: Den apantw se ypoqetika erwthmata.

POYLIDOY: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw ean h kybernhsh skopeyei na apeyqynei sygxarhthria sth nea kybernhsh ths Italias.

ANTWNAROS: Ayto einai apolyta synhqes sth dieqnh diplwmatikh praktikh. Kati tetoio ginetai efoson anakoinwqei to epishmo apotelesma.

POYLIDOY: Exei.

ANTWNAROS: Den nomizw oti exei anakoinwqei akoma to epishmo teliko apotelesma.

DHMOSIOGRAFOI: (Den akoygetai).

ANTWNAROS: Ayto einai qema toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn. Den afora ton kybernhtiko ekproswpo.

Sas eyxaristw.

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