Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-11-03

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 3 Noembrioy 2005

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

TSIODRAS: Shmera o k. Papalhgoyras diatypwnei mia qesh oti dexetai apeiles. Eseis milwntas sto radiofwno toy ALPHA eipate epishs oti dexeste kai eseis apeiles. Mporeite na mas peite -gia esas toylaxiston, den jerw an mporeite kai gia ton k. Papalhgoyra, akomh kalytera- apo poioys dexeste apeiles; Ti eidoys apeiles einai aytes; Kai ti exete kanei prokeimenoy na diereynhsete apo poy proerxontai aytes oi apeiles h na timwrhqoyn aytoi poy sas apeiloyn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den einai akribws etsi h diatypwsh toy k. Papalhgoyra, alla oyte h dikh moy. Eipa oti se dhmosies qeseis, otan brisketai kapoios sthn politikh, apotelei ena mallon synhqismeno fainomeno, na lambanei anwnymes epistoles, oi opoies perilambanoyn kai apeilhtika mhnymata.

TSIODRAS: Epeidh den einai ena proswpiko zhthma, eiste ena dhmosio proswpo, eiste Ypoyrgos opws kai o k. Papalhgoyras. Oi apeilhtikes epistoles exoyn na kanoyn se sxesh me to paradikastiko kyklwma kai aytes tis ypoqeseis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den yparxei kati tetoio se o,ti me afora. Oson afora ton k. Papalhgoyra, exei dwsei apanthsh o idios.

TSIODRAS: Qa mporoysate na mas peite se ti aforoyn h an einai mia epistolh, h opoia mesa stis xiliades poy erxontai sto Megaro Majimoy h se ekatontades dekades, den jerw poses, yparxei kati tetoio; H exei mia politikh diastash, giati profanws gia na kanete mia tetoia dhmosia dhlwsh profanws exei politikh diastash, alliws qa htan ashmanto gegonos kai nomizw oti den qa dinate shmasia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa moy epitrecete na sas pw, oti prepei na diabasete akribws th dhlwsh poy ekana. Epanelaba en merei ayth th dhlwsh kai eipa oti se dhmosies qeseis, ayto einai ena fainomeno mallon synhqismeno. Fantazomai oti kai alloi ypoyrgoi sto parelqon -kai ypoyrgoi sto mellon- qa dexontan kai qa dexontai diafora anwnyma grammata, poy qa periexoyn kai kapoioy eidoys apeiles.

IWANNOY: Na rwthsw se o,ti afora esas, giati eipate oti den afora to paradikastiko kyklwma, oi epistoles poy exete labei panw se poio qema einai;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa epektaqw perissotero.

KAKALHS: Ti sas ekane tote na dhmosiopoihsete oti labate aytes tis epistoles s@ ayth th xronikh stigmh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H erwthsh toy synadelfoy sas, sthn opoia apanthsa me ton tropo poy sas eipa: Dhladh oti den dinw kapoia idiaiterh shmasia, dioti einai profanws ena apo ta synepakoloyqa mias dhmosias qeshs.

BLAXOS: Den pisteyw na to syndyazete me ta faj poy bgainoyn h feygoyn apo to grafeio toy k. Stayroy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Kat` arxas, den yparxei kanenos eidoys apodeijh oti efyge ena tetoio faj apo to grafeio toy k. Stayroy. To qema exei ejantlhqei.

BLAXOS: Den sas apasxolei na deite apo poy efyge ayto to faj;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Akomh ki an mas apasxolei, h ereyna katedeije oti den efyge apo to grafeio toy k. Stayroy. Den yparxei peraiterw qema.

BLAXOS: Dhladh, den qa kanete ereyna na deite apo poy efyge ayto to faj; Ara den prostateyete ton Yfypoyrgo. Ayto mas lete.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To qema exei ejantlhqei. Den exw na sas pw tipote perissotero.

BLAXOS: Den aisqanetai thn anagkh h kybernhsh na brei apo poion efyge ayto to aqlio faj, gia na prostateysete thn timh toy Yfypoyrgoy sas. Oxi tipota allo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei doqei megalyterh diastash apo aythn poy ajizei se ayto to qema. Sas eipa kai pali oti egine ereyna, apo thn opoia apekalyfqh oti den exei fygei apo to grafeio ths Grammateias ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas. Tipote perissotero.

BLAXOS: Xqes breqhkate antimetwpos me merikoys boyleytes sto kafeneio, pinontas kafe oi opoioi sas ejefrasan toys problhmatismoys toys gia pws antimetwpizontai oi boyleytes, to klima poy yparxei metajy twn boyleytwn, thn epiqymia toys ayto to klima na ftasei kai mexri ton Prwqypoyrgo, gia na problhmatistei kai aytos kai na breqoyn lyseis se diafora qemata. Qa qelate na mas peite, ti akribws epilejate ap@ ayth thn prwth epafh me boyleytes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se genikes grammes qa sas pw oti den einai h prwth epafh. Den breqhka antimetwpos, alla syzhthsa me synadelfoys moy, opws exw kanei kai alles fores kata to parelqon, ta zhthmata poy aforoyn ton tomea ths dikhs moy eyqynhs, dhladh ta zhthmata kalyterhs enhmerwshs toy kosmoy gia ta osa exei prajei hdh ayth h kybernhsh.

BLAXOS: Ennoeite oti afhsan aixmes gia thn epikoinwniakh politikh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Syzhthsame gia to pws mporoyn na ginoyn kalytera ta pragmata. Me poion tropo mporoyn na metexoyn kai oi boyleytes sth gnwstopoihsh twn oswn exei kanei h kybernhsh mexri shmera stis perioxes apo tis opoies proerxetai o kaqenas. Oi perissoteroi htan boyleytes apo thn eparxia. Kai se ayto, opws kai stis syzhthseis sto parelqon, h synergasia einai agasth. Panta bebaiws yparxoyn periqwria beltiwshs.

IWANNOY: Parapona gia ypoyrgoys, sas ekanan; Oti exoyn kleistes tis portes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, kanena.

KORAH: Parallhla, ap` oti hdh mas eipan, sas eqijan kai ena zhthma gia ena atomo me qesmiko rolo dipla ston Prwqypoyrgo ston opoion qa mporoyn na apeyqynontai. Enan Giannh Aggeloy, as poyme. Ayto to skeftetai kaqoloy o Prwqypoyrgos; To syzhthsate mazi toy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H syzhthsh ejantlhqhke sto diko moy qesmiko rolo kai sto pws qa mporesoyme na synergastoyme akomh kalytera se ayta poy sas eipa prohgoymenws.

BLAXOS: Mhpws anti gia Giannh Aggeloy, yparxei Dhmhtrhs Sioyfas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Tipote perissotero.

SIDERHS: Poly eykola jepernate to gegonos toy faj. Lete, einai ena gegonos kai exei kleisei. Omws einai apotelesma mias seiras pragmatwn. Oi sxeseis twn boyleytwn toy Peiraia, oi kataggelies toy Nikolopoyloy, oi kataggelies Liaph gia Alogoskoyfh. Einai dhladh ena aqroisma -kata to palio- h posothta ginetai poiothta. Kai h N.D. brisketai se fash proioysas parakmhs. Qa kanei kati o Prwqypoyrgos gi@ ayto; Den einai memonwmena gegonota. Apoteloyn synolo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai memonwmena gegonota. Eseis ta syndyazete, bgazontas ena ayqaireto symperasma me to opoio, bebaiws, den symfwnw.

POYLIDOY: Hqela na sas rwthsw, pws ajiologeite to gegonos oti h anakoinwsh toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas gia thn agora twn F-16 ekponhqhke dia ths meqodoy toy copy page apo antistoixh diafhmistikh anakoinwsh ths Lokxit.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei hdh ekdwsei anakoinwsh to Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas.

POYLIDOY: Ean kati antistoixo eixe symbei apo to PASOK qa eixate@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Antilambanomai, oti den exete diabasei thn anakoinwsh sthn opoia anaferetai oti kai sto parelqon exoyn doqei sth dhmosiothta apo to Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas antistoixa keimena. Ara den isxyei ayth h symptwsh hmeromhniwn h h akoloyqia me dyo hmeres diafora twn oswn katagrafontai shmera se kapoia dhmosieymata. To ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas eixe ekdwsei non paper me thn idia fraseologia gia to idio qema kai sto parelqon.

KORAH: H shmerinh synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Papalhgoyra kai toys k. Kroystallakh kai Androylakh, maqame peripoy to periexomeno. Omws, san kybernhtikh strathgikh qa mporoysame na poyme oti jekinaei mia epixeirhsh ``kaqara xeria'';

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den einai ayto to opoio lete. Sas diabazw apospasma twn dhlwsewn toy k. Papalhgoyra poy pisteyw oti apanta sto erwthma sas: ``Shmera proxwroyme me dyo nees nomoparaskeyastikes epitropes prokeimenoy na anamorfwqei afenos o Poinikos Kwdikas kai afeteroy o Kwdikas Poinikhs Dikonomias. Ta dyo ayta nomoqethmata einai hdh 55 xronwn kai sto metro ayto aparxaiwmena kai jeperasmena. Aytos einai o logos gia ton opoio ginontai aytes oi Nomoparaskeyastikes Epitropes''.

KORAH: Tis gnwrizw. Omws gia na jekinhsei mia tetoia poly megalh prospaqeia, pisteyw oti qa yparxei mia genikh filosofia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sygxeete dyo diaforetika qemata. Milame gia eksygxronismo apo th mia pleyra kai eseis milate gia alla qemata ta opoia exoyn na kanoyn me teleiws diaforetika zhthmata ap@ ayta poy anaferoyme twra.

KORAH: Kai gi ayton ton eksygxronismo, ypoqetw oti qa yparxei mia kat` arxhn genikh filosofia ths kybernhshs. Qa pame loipon se aysthroteres poines, qa pame se ti; Poies einai oi genikes kateyqynseis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Leei o k. Papalhgoyras: ``H prospaqeia einai na antapokriqoyme stis kainoyrgies anagkes kai synqhkes kai bebaia na laboyme ypoch ayta poy symbainoyn sto synoliko eyrwpaiko xwro''.

BLAXOS: Kata poly newteros eixa zhsei thn istoria toy tote opws to xarakthrizame, ki eseis ws dhmosiografos toy legomenoy ``Makedonikoy'', me to opoio den asxoliotan kanenas poyqena ston kosmo. Me laqh ths politikhs hgesias egine pagkosmio gegonos. Mhpws me laqh pame na kanoyme qema kai to qema ths ``Tsamoyrias''. Dhladh, mhpws qa htan protimotero o k. Papoylias, estw kai katw apo aytes tis dyskoles synqhkes na dei ton k. Moysioy, me dedomeno malista oti sto parelqon sthn Ellada o k. Klinton efqase sthn Ellada, enw thn idia wra yphrxan poly megales kai sklhres diadhlwseis sto kentro ths Aqhnas kai den epeleje to dromo ths epistrofhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora to deytero qema, exei apanthqei. Den qa pw tipota perissotero, dioti kata th gnwmh moy, exei ejantlhqei. Se o,ti afora to prwto qema, qelw na sas pw oti h gnwstopoihsh enos gegonotos den odhgei, kat` anagkh, se laqh, opws eipate. Gia paradeigma, sto Kypriako h olo kai megalyterh dhmosiothta apotelei shmantiko kriko sthn alysida dhmosiopoihshs, gnwstopoihshs ston kosmo enos qematos to opoio prepei na lyqei.

BLAXOS: Posoi apo toys Ellhnes hjeran oti sthn Albania yphrxan diadhlwtes 200, 300 oi opoioi elegan ayta ta aithmata. Shmera toys jeroyn oloi oi Ellhnes. Kai ayto nomizw oti egine me aformh to gegonos ayto.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kai sto parelqon exei anafyei ayto to qema. H qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs diaxronika, eite htan kybernhsh PASOK, eite N.D. einai diatypwmenh kai gnwsth.

SIDERHS: Mhpws thn kybernhsh prepei na thn apasxolhsei ayto to mellon, twn perifhmwn Anejarthtwn Arxwn, oi opoies kata tekmhrio den exoyn antikeimenika krithria h bazoyn ton ypokeimenismo toys mesa sta antikeimenika krithria kai ekdidoyn apofaseis, katapinontas thn kamhlo kai diylizontas ton kwnwpa. O ``BEST'' einai to teleytaio paradeigma.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi Anejarthtes Arxes einai katoxyrwmenes apo to Syntagma. Einai arxes poy stelexwnontai me koinh synainesh, malista me idiaitera ayjhmenh pleiochfia, sthn diaskech twn Proedrwn, apo thn Boylh twn Ellhnwn. Ws ek toytoy exoyn thn anejarthsia twn apofasewn toys. Sto erwthma ti einai ypokeimeniko kai ti antikeimeniko -opws gnwrizete- den mporei kapoios na apanthsei, kaqws einai o idios ypokeimenikos ws atomo.

SPYRAKH: Yparxei kati newtero gia to tajidi toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn Agkyra;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi den exw kati newtero.

GKOYTZANHS: Enas radiofwnikos staqmos apeileitai me kleisimo kai enas yfypoyrgos stelnei ejwdiko kanontas prolhptikh logokrisia se enan dhmosiografo, profanws gia na apagoreysei na proballei to qema h na ton empodisei mallon na to bgalei to qema, prin kan to paroysiasei. Kai ayto erxetai se synexeia twn agwgwn poy eixan ginei apo melh ths kybernhshs, enantion twn dhmosiografwn kai MME. Mhpws yparxei kapoio problhma sth sxesh ths kybernhshs sas me to xwro twn MME;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora to prwto skelos ths erwthshs sas exei apanthsei o idios o yfypoyrgos. Se o,ti afora to deytero exw apanthsei polles fores.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exete arxisei dialogo, synomilies, epafes me sygkekrimenoys kanalarxes gia thn adeiodothsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw arxisei dialogo me sygkekrimenoys kanalarxes. Omws, sto diasthma ths ypoyrgias moy, exw kanei polles fores syzhthseis me tis Enwseis kai twn thleoptikwn staqmwn panelladikhs embeleias, alla kai me tis Enwseis radiofwnikwn kai thleoptikwn staqmwn apo olh thn Ellada, opws epishs kai me thn ESHEA.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Twra teleytaia exete kanei epafes me tis Enwseis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Synexws.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Me sygkekrimenoys kanalarxes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw synexeis synanthseis gi ayta ta qemata.

GKOYTZANHS: Ean katalaba kala h kybernhsh kalyptetai apo ta osa eipe o yfypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs sth diamaxh toy me enan dhmosiografo; Afhnei h kybernhsh, dhladh, na thn ekproswpei se qemata Typoy enas yfypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs gia qemata malista prolhptikhs logokrisias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai dikaiwma sas na bgazete opoio symperasma qelete. Sas exw apanthsei.

KAKALHS: Meta th ``khdeia express'' toy basikoy metoxoy, h kybernhsh penqei kai dexetai syllyphthria h anakoyfisthke poy eqace ton makarith;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Allh erwthsh;

KAKALHS: Den exete na peite tipota panw sthn erwthsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kaqenas einai eleyqeros na milaei kai na kanei topoqethseis. Qewrhtika to press room einai enas xwros, opoy ypoballontai erwthseis. Twra, ean eseis qelete na kanete topoqethsh, mporeite na to kanete eleyqera.

KAKALHS: Htan sygkekrimenh h erwthsh moy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apanthsa sygkekrimena.

BLAXOS: O yfypoyrgos Amynas k. Lampropoylos, prin apo ligo, sthn kleisth synedriash Epitrophs sth Boylh, eipe oti: Kataggellw thn arxh prostasias proswpikwn dedomenwn giati den mas dinei th dynatothta na dhmosiopoihsoyme ta onomata twn fygostratwn gia na doyme poioi einai aytoi poy milane h kati tetoio. Yparxei ena tetoio klima ths kybernhshs, dhladh, ean o Q. Roysopoylos leei h kanei kati poy enoxlei thn kybernhsh na toy bgaloyme ena xarti, poy endexomenws deijei oti den phge sto strato gia alloys logoys;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayto poy lete den to gnwrizw, ean synebh kai pws synebh. H genikh apanthsh moy einai ayth poy edwsa prin gia tis Anejarthtes Arxes.

KAKALHS: Ektos apo to ``pagwma'' misqwn kai twn syntajewn, tis perikopes twn koinwnikwn dapanwn ths idiwtikopoihshs twn DEKO kai thn arsh ths monimothtas stis DEKO, o neos proypologismos poy stelnete shmera stis Bryjelles, problepei allo ``filolaiko'' metro;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, oristikopoieitai o proypologismos. Didetai prosxedio. Shmera, ayth thn wra poy milame, o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn k. Alogoskoyfhs dinei synenteyjh kai qa apanthsei se ola ta erwthmata.

TSIODRAS: H kybernhsh, oson afora thn titlopoihsh, basize polla se sxesh me thn epomenh xronia se ayth thn sygkekrimenh morfh, dhladh na titlopoihsei ta xreh twn prohgoymenwn etwn, me dedomeno oti prin eixame ton basiko metoxo. Me tis Bryjelles htan diaforetika ta pragmata ap o,ti ta ypologizame. Twra exoyme titlopoihsh poy ypologizame oti qa thn paroyme to 2006 kai den thn pairnoyme. Stoys sxediasmoys ths kybernhshs den lambanetai ypoch toy ti ginetai stis Bryjelles;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws eipa kai prin, o k. Alogoskoyfhs qa apanthsei, oytws h allws, se ola ta erwthmata. Qa moy epitrecete, omws, na kanw mia genikh topoqethsh: Basikos stoxos ths kybernhshs, apo thn arxh, otan apokalyfqhke to terastio elleimma, to opoio apekrypte h prohgoymenh kybernhsh, htan na meiwqei katw apo to 3%, opws akribws ofeilan na kanoyn oles oi xwres ths E.E. O stoxos aytos, kata ena poly megalo pososto, exei epiteyxqei kai epitygxanetai me tis megales diarqrwtikes allages. H titlopoihsh einai ena epiprosqeto metro, to opoio isxyei gia to 2005. Qa perimenoyme na doyme ti qa ginei gia to 2006. Den qelw na pw perissotera gia thn titlopoihsh giati qymaste poly kala to megalo qorybo poy egine prin apo ena mhna oti den qa ginei titlopoihsh gia to 2005. Kykloforhsan diafores plhrofories kai fhmes poy telika diaceysqhkan. Qa sas parakalesw na perimenete na akoysete ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias, na pei otidhpote perissotero ekeinos krinei.

TSIODRAS: Ton Martio exei lhfqei apofash apo to Eyrwpaiko Symboylio poy leei oti den lambanontai ypoch sth meiwsh toy elleimmatos metra ``mias xrhshs'', thn opoia eixe epanalabei o k. Dhmas se synenteyjh toy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epanalambanw oti oi megales metarryqmiseis exoyn hdh apodwsei to megalytero pososto meiwshs toy elleimmatos. Oson afora thn titlopoihsh, exw dwsei safestath apanthsh.

KAKALHS: Pws ejhgeitai to gegonos oti ta metra poy exete parei mexri twra gia th meiwsh twn elleimmatwn ta plhrwnoyn apokleistika oi ergazomenoi, enw antiqeta oi ``exontes'' kai ``katexontes'' exoyn diarkws kai perissotera pronomia, opws einai h meiwsh twn forologikwn syntelestwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kanete laqos. Oi megales metarryqmiseis aforoyn ton tropo leitoyrgias toy idioy toy kratoys kai deytereyontws twn DEKO.

KAKALHS: Den yparxei, dhladh, litothta, akribeia k.lp;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Parakalw, allh erwthsh.

KORAH: Yparxei diastash metajy toy ypoyrgoy Amynas kai ton Arxhgo GEA k. Aylwnith ws pros ton ejoplismo twn F-16;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw kati tetoio.

KORAH: Yparxei eggrafo, to opoio dhmosieyei shmera h efhmerida ``Eleyqerotypia'' kai anaferetai se kapoies eishghseis toy k. Aylwnith apo tis opoies kamia den egine apodekth, ap` o,ti fainetai me allo eggrafo, to opoio ypografei o ypoyrgos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Paramenw sthn prohgoymenh apanthsh moy.

SIDERHS: Se sxesh me thn apofygh strateyshs, qewreite proswpiko dedomeno to na ``loyfarei'' kapoios apo to strato; Eseis ti nomizete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa pw ti nomizw egw. O,ti orizoyn oi nomoi.

BLAXOS: Qelw na sas kanw mia genikh erwthsh kai qelw mia genikh apanthsh: Hsastan mexri protinos dhmosiografos. Qa hqela na moy peite pws aisqaneste, poy shmera poy eiste ypoyrgos Epikrateis kai kybernhtikos ekproswpos, exoyme diafora fainomena yperbolikhs prosfyghs sth Dikaiosynh enantion dhmosiografwn. Exoyme fainomena na kleinoyn radiofwnikoi staqmoi giati kapoios eipe kati poy den arese se kapoioys alloys. Qa hqela na moy peite, ean telika epi twn hmerwn enos prwhn dhmosiografoy kai shmera politikoy o Typos brisketai ypo diwgmo, ypo tromokrathsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei kai gia ta dyo qemata. Gia to men radiofwniko staqmo kai to ESR ejedwsa anakoinwsh, apo thn prwth kiolas stigmh kai sas parakalw na th diabasete. Oson afora to deytero, exei ginei syzhthsh sto press room, tis teleytaies 15-20 hmeres kai exw parei safh qesh. Den exw na pw tipota perissotero.

BLAXOS: Akoma kai gia enan emporo narkwtikwn yparxei ena orio fylakishs, ena orio timhs. Enas dhmosiografos den exei ayto to orio; Enas dhmosiografos grafei h leei kati, na exei mia poinh, den mporei na exei mia poinh 2 ekat eyrw, na xanontai spitia, na katastrefontai oikogeneies. Ean den einai ayto tromokratia, ti einai;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa xarakthriza ``tromokratia'' thn askhsh kanenos nomimoy dikaiwmatos, idiws otan ayto kineitai entos toy plaisioy toy Syntagmatos. Askhsh nomimoy dikaiwmatos, poy den hgerqh aifnhs tis teleytaies 15-20 hmeres, alla isxyei edw kai para polla xronia. Askhsh nomimoy dikaiwmatos, toy opoioy, qa sas qymisw, oti exoyn kanei xrhsh arketoi polites, metajy aytwn politikoi, dhmosiografoi k.a, To zhthma poy qesate exei janasyzhthqei se ayth thn aiqoysa. To ycos twn poinwn poy lete einai qema poy den me afhnei kaqoloy adiaforo, oxi ws prwhn dhmosiografo, alla genika ws Ellhna polith. Einai mia syzhthsh, poy exw kanei kai me thn ESHEA kai me thn EIHEA, poy moy eixe qesei to qema gia prwth fora, otan hmoyn sth qesh toy ekproswpoy Typoy ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, prin apo pente xronia. Einai ena zhthma gia to opoio exw pei kai stoys endiaferomenoys foreis oti mporei kapoios na to syzhthsei.

BLAXOS: To eipate kai ston ypoyrgo poy ekane thn agwgh twn dyo ekat. eyrw;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Me rwtate gia ena qesmiko qema. Ean moy epitrepete den qa hqela na mpoyme se periptwsiologia.

MOYRTHS: Me to qema toy basikoy metoxoy teqhke qema endexomenhs anaqewrhshs toy Syntagmatos. H kybernhsh pisteyei oti prepei na arxisei mia tetoia syzhthsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, h kybernhsh exei desmeytei apo tote poy h Nea Dhmokratia htan sthn antipoliteysh -kai malista yparxei kai sto programma mas- toylaxiston gia ena zhthma: Ayto ths idryshs mh kratikwn, mh kerdoskopikoy xarakthra panepisthmiakwn idrymatwn. Ayto einai ena qema gia to opoio xreiazetai sigoyra anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos.

MOYRTHS: To Syntagma problepei ekdosh ektelestikoy nomoy se o,ti afora to asymbibasto metajy ths boyleytikhs idiothtas kai ths askhshs epaggelmatos. Skopeyei h kybernhsh na ekdwsei tetoio nomo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw to qema. Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw.

TSIODRAS: Sto zhthma ths syntagmatikhs anaqewrhshs, eipate oti exei desmeytei h kybernhsh gia to qema poy afora sthn idrysh mh kratikwn panepisthmiwn. To erwthma einai allo: An qa proxwrhsei h kybernhsh se ayto. Bebaiws exei desmeytei. Qa proxwrhsei omws;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh, opws gnwrizete, proxwra sthn ylopoihsh olwn twn desmeysewn ths.

BLAXOS: Me sygxwreite. Den to exete janapei san kybernhsh, oti endexomenws@

ROYSOPOYLOS: To exw janapei sthn palaia aiqoysa ths politikhs enhmerwshs.

BLAXOS: Ara, symfwneite kai me thn k. Mpenakh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se poio qema anafereste;

BLAXOS: H k. Mpenakh eipe xqes oti ayto to asymbibasto exei dhmioyrghsei polla problhmata, sto telos qa katalhjoyme na exoyme mia Boylh me dhmosioys ypallhloys, kanenas ajiologos anqrwpos epaggelmatias den qa qelei na mpei sth Boylh kai prepei na anaqewrhqei@

ROYSOPOYLOS: H k. Mpenakh exei ena qesmiko rolo. Exei mia poreia arketa shmantikh sthn politikh kai ston akadhmaiko xwro. Exei thn apoch ths, thn opoia sebomaste oloi. Egw ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, qa sas pw oti den exei syzhthqei ayth th stigmh entos toy plaisioy ths kybernhshs kapoio qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eipate oti to syzhthsate me toys foreis, me thn Enwsh Syntaktwn kai me alloys, gia ayton ton typoktono nomo. H kybernhsh exei proqesh na katarghsei, na meiwsei kati kai qa to kanei syntoma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh den exei kanei tipote perissotero ayth th stigmh, apo to na akoysei toys endiaferomenoys foreis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai ti apantaei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apantaei oti qa to skeftei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, poso kairo qa to skeftetai;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oso xreiastei. Exoyme na kanoyme me mia seira pollwn zhthmatwn ta opoia einai sobara h kai sobarotera se orismenes periptwseis. Opws gia paradeigma h anarxia sto radiothleoptiko topio.

BLAXOS: Ama yparxei anarxia na baloyme sth fylakh toys dhmosiografoys dhladh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: E, oxi. Mhn qetete erwthseis isopedwtikhs logikhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o k. Benizelos, perase to nomo se mia nyxta. Giati eseis to skefteste toso poly;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Giati den allazei eykola enas nomos, xwris skech, xwris na exei kapoios oles tis parametroys enwpion toy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mhpws boleyei thn kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa, oti h askhsh nomimoy dikaiwmatos den exei ginei mono apo melh ths paroysas kybernhshs, den exei ginei mono apo polites, exei ginei kai apo dhmosiografoys kai apo polloys alloys.

LEONTITSH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, yparxoyn kapoioi eidikoi logoi poy epiballoyn thn paroysia eidikwn froyrwn sthn eisodo toy ktirioy, sygkekrimena sth resecion, sthn ypodoxh kai to lew ayto giati edw einai h Genikh Grammateia Plhroforhshs kai Typoy, den einai Ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs. Gi@ ayto rwtw. Yparxoyn eidikoi logoi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Prwton: Sto xwro ayto stegazontai h Genikh Grammateia Epikoinwnias kai h Genikh Grammateia Enhmerwshs. Deyteron: Prwth hmera hrqate sto ktirio;

LEONTITSH: Oxi, oles tis hmeres.

ROYSOPOYLOS: An exete erqei oles tis hmeres, jerete poly kala toys logoys ekeinoys poy epiballoyn na sebastoyme ena dhmosio xwro kai na prospaqhsoyme na eimaste apotelesmatikoi sth diasfalish aytoy toy dhmosioy xwroy.

LEONTITSH: Milaw gia eswteriko xwro, gia thn ypodoxh, gia th resecion. Den milaw gia to gyrw xwro poy yphrxan oi kinhtopoihseis.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sygxwrhste me, alla kai sth resecion toy prohgoymenoy ktirioy, yphrxan eidikoi froyroi. O rolos toys einai h diasfalish toy ktirioy. Den exoyn kanena allo rolo.

IWANNOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, epeidh tis prohgoymenes hmeres den hsastan eseis sto briefing na rwthsw kai pali gia th Samiopoyla.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw hdh milhsei me ton k. Mpeza, o opoios exei ypoch toy thn ypoqesh. Thn ereyna kai qa exete syntoma mia apanthsh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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