Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-12-17

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 17 Dekembrioy 2003

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

To programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, gia tis epomenes hmeres, exei ws ejhs:

Shmera, stis 6 to apogeyma, o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei me ton k. Xristodoylakh kai ton k. Xardoybelh. Stis 7 to apogeyma, qa proedreysei sth synedriash ths Diypoyrgikhs Epitrophs Syntonismoy ths olympiakhs proetoimasias.

Ayrio, stis 10 to prwi, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, me qema tis mikromesaies epixeirhseis. Stis 13.00, o Prwqypoyrgos qa metabei sto ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs, opoy qa parastei sthn ekdhlwsh gia to Tameio Eggyodosias mikrwn kai poly mikrwn epixeirhsewn. To apogeyma, qa exei synanthsh, sth Boylh, me ton k. Xrysoxoidh kai ton k. Aygerino, gia thn oristikopoihsh twn chfodeltiwn, enocei ths eishghshs poy qa ginei sto Ektelestiko Grafeio. Sth synexeia qa parastei sthn enarjh ths syzhthshs gia ton Proypologismo.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 10 to prwi, qa episkefqei ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias. Stis 11.30, qa exei syskech gia ta dhmosia erga me ton k. Xristodoylakh, thn ka Papandreoy kai ton k. Paxta. Stis 13.30, qa proedreysei sth synedriash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy toy PASOK, me qema ta chfodeltia. Metajy 19.00 kai 20.00, qa parakoloyqhsei, sth Boylh, meros ths syzhthshs toy Proypologismoy.

To Sabbato, stis 20.00, qa parastei sth dejiwsh poy paraqetei o Proedros ths Dhmokratias pros toys ekproswpoys twn MME.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

GARGALAKOS: Para tis dikes sas diaceyseis, h filologia gyrw apo to qema ths diadoxhs exei foyntwsei kai xqes akoysame kai ton k. Eyaggelo Benizelo na dhlwnei parwn sthn koyrsa ths diadoxhs. Ti akribws symbainei; Exete kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na kanw ena synoliko sxolio gia ola ta dhmosieymata twn hmerwn. Den syndeetai amesa me thn erwthsh sas. Exei ena geniko xarakthra. Ayto to qema exei kleisei. Poreyomaste oloi mazi pros tis ekloges. Diekdikoyme th nikh me epikefalhs ton Kwsta Shmith. Parte to apofash.

SIDERHS: Sth genikothta, einai entajei. To qema einai oti o k. Benizelos, metajy allwn, eipe oti o k. Shmiths exei to sqenos kai thn istorikh eyqynh kai qa aposafhnisei to gegonos.

PRWTOPAPAS: Molis prin apo ligo, ayto ekana.

SIDERHS: Oxi. Qelw na pw allo. Mas legate edw oti einai aposafhnismena. Blepete, omws, oti kai oi ypoyrgoi den ta exoyn aposafhnisei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oloi to exoyn aposafhnisei. Molis prin apo ligo to aposafhnisa kai pros esas.

MPOTWNHS: Fantazomai oti to ``parte to apofash'' einai gi` mas, etsi;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai gia olh th fhmologia aytwn twn hmerwn. Grafthkan senaria, yphrjan fhmes, diakinhqhkan fhmes. Gia mia akomh fora, loipon, to jekaqarizw: Ayto to qema exei kleisei. Poreyomaste dynamika pros tis ekloges kai diekdikoyme th nikh me epikefalhs ton Kwsta Shmith. Parte to apofash.

KALARITHS: An moy epitrepete, den yphrjan mono fhmes kai senaria, yphrjan kai protropes apo boyleytes kai stelexh toy PASOK pros ton Prwqypoyrgo na analabei prwtoboylies poy, emmesws h safws, opws tis diatypwnan htan na anoijei tis diadikasies diadoxhs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei allh prwtoboylia, para ayto poy sas eipa. Oi prwtoboylies poy analambanoyme aforoyn th synhqh drasthriothta mas, giati prwtoboylies yparxoyn polles. Aforoyn to programma toy kommatos, to programma twn eklogwn, tis episkeceis k.t.l.

ANTWNOPOYLOS: Xqes to brady, o k. Benizelos, sthn ekpomph toy Stayroy Qeodwrakh sto STAR, eipe sygkekrimena na apofasisei to PASOK an o k. Shmiths einai to megalo pleonekthma h meionekthma. Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio ep` aytoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws prokyptei apo oles tis dhmoskophseis, o Kwstas Shmiths einai to megalo oplo toy PASOK.

ANTWNOPOYLOS: Kai kati allo qa hqela na sas rwthsw: Sthn idia ekpomph sto STAR, akoysthke oti mia apo tis kataskeyastikes etairies poy symmetexoyn sthn kataskeyh ths zeyjhs Rioy-Antirrioy, fainetai na anhkei se symferonta toy prwhn yfypoyrgoy Anaptyjhs Xrhstoy Qeodwroy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizw tipota tetoio. Epeidh kaqenas mporei na leei o,ti qelei, qermh paraklhsh na kataqesei stoixeia.

SIDERHS: To qema twn TAXI lyqhke, me parembash toy Grammatea toy PASOK. Tosoys mhnes syzhtoysan me toys armodioys ypoyrgoys kai yfypoyrgoys kai den eixe lyqei. Den einai ayto mia kapoia qesmikh parekbash; Parenebh o Grammateas ston ypoyrgo, enw den ta eixan brei oi diadikoi metajy toys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den htan diadikoi.

SIDERHS: Entajei. H eleyqeria toy logoy to epitrepei.

PRWTOPAPAS: To apokaqistw, giati den toys qewroyme diadikoys. Apo ekei kai pera, o Grammateas, ws ofeile, apo th stigmh poy oi tajitzhdes zhtoysan synanthsh me to komma, toys dexqhke. Toy eipan kapoia pragmata, synennohqhke me ton k. Xristodoylakh kai h kybernhsh telika apofasise. Den blepw kanena problhma. Poly orqa enhrghse kai o k. Xrysoxoidhs kai o k. Xristodoylakhs.

GARGALAKOS: Den einai ypanaxwrhsh ths kybernhshs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Giati einai ypanaxwrhsh; Breqhke kapoia formoyla, wste kai na efarmostoyn ayta poy hqele h kybernhsh kai oi tajitzhdes na mporesoyn, xwris idiaitera problhmata, na ta efarmosoyn. Den einai ypanaxwrhsh. Einai dieyqethsh.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Epeidh briskomaste se proeklogikh periodo, hqela na rwthsw ti qa ginei me ton thleoptiko xrono, kyriws sta kratika kanalia; Exei parei h kybernhsh kapoia apofash; Mexri twra, parakoloyqoyme ekpompes, deltia k.t.l., opoy einai dysanaloga megalos o xronos probolhs stelexwn toy PASOK kai ths kybernhshs, se sxesh me alla kommata.

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo o,ti blepw se ola ta talk show, h N.D. einai paroysa. Den leipei apo poyqena.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Den einai ta talk show, einai kai ta deltia eidhsewn, einai kai @

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo oso exw parakoloyqhsei apo ta talk show, tis ekpompes politikhs enhmerwshs, tis prwines ekpompes twn kanaliwn k.o.k., den exw dei na apoysiazei h N.D.. Kai swsto einai. Den einai kako. To xairetizw.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Prokeitai na ginei kapoia ryqmish; Sta deltia eidhsewn exoyme dysanalogh paroysia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sta deltia eidhsewn qa problhqei kai h kataskeyh mias gefyras, enos limanioy, poy den einai kommatiko ergo. Den mporoyme na taytizoyme th synhqh kybernhtikh drasthriothta me thn kommatikh. Ayto einai laqos. Gia paradeigma, qa paei enas ypoyrgos na dei ena megalo dromo. Phge h ka Papandreoy, proxqes, ston kombo ths Khfisias me ton Paradeiso Amaroysioy. Den qa deijei h thleorash ta egkainia toy komboy; Einai dynaton; Einai kommatikos xronos aytos; Den kanei kommatikh politikh h ka Papandreoy. Kanei th doyleia ths ws ypoyrgos kai poly kala kanei. Qa htan parekbash, an gia paradeigma to prwi sthn ERT sthn ekpomph toy k. Lyritzh kai toy k. Oikonomoy den kaloysan ekproswpoys ths N.D.. Ginetai to antiqeto. Yparxei poly prosektikh stash kai ayto to xairetizoyme.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Na rwthsw kai kati allo. Me to zhthma poy dhmioyrghqhke kata thn aponomh twn brabeiwn twn aqlhtikwn syntaktwn pros toys aqlhtes, opoy ws gnwston apoysiasan oi podosfairistes ths Eqnikhs Ellados, hqela na moy peite pote prosballetai o qesmos ths Proedrias ths Dhmokratias; Kai to rwtw, an kai den einai ths armodiothtas sas, giati akoysa ton k. Lianh na kalyptei plhrws ton k. Gkagkatsh oti kaqysterhse k.t.l.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporoyme na kaqysteroyme, otan einai kapoy o Proedros ths Dhmokratias. Ayto prepei na to prosexoyme oloi. Xreiazetai idiaiteros sebasmos kai prosoxh se qemata poy exoyn na kanoyn me to qesmo toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. Den prepei na yparxoyn aytoy toy eidoys oi kaqysterhseis. Ekeino, omws, poy qelw na tonisw, me aformh thn erwthsh sas, einai to ejhs: Eida mia anakoinwsh toy k. Roysopoyloy, prin apo ligo, me thn opoia prospaqei na rijei eyqynes sthn kybernhsh, dioti kaqysterhse o k. Gkagkatshs sthn ekdhlwsh. An einai dynaton! O k. Roysopoylos profanws brisketai se sygxysh. Den exei katalabei oti o k. Gkagkatshs einai Proedros ths EPO kai oxi paragwn toy ypoyrgeioy Politismoy. Parakalw poly ton k. Roysopoylo na qymhqei h an den to gnwrizei na rwthsei, gia na maqei, poia idiothta exei o k. Gkagkatshs, prin zhthsei eyqynes apo thn kybernhsh.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Mhpws, gnwrizete giati anablhqhke mia programmatismenh periodeia toy k. Papandreoy sth Magnhsia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws dhlwse o ekproswpos toy YPEJ k. Mpegliths, yparxei mia mikrh xronikh metaqesh, logw kakokairias.

SIDERHS: Xqes ekane mia endiaferoysa protash o k. Kwnstantopoylos, meta th synanthsh toy me thn ``GREENPEACE''. Kalese thn kybernhsh na khryxqei h xwra eleyqerh apo ta metallagmena. Einai mia protash poy qa mporoyse na thn ejetasei h kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prepei na to dw ayto to qema, giati exei polles texnikes leptomereies.

SIDERHS: Safws. Apla fantazomai, pws 10 ekatommyria Ellhnes qa synypegrafan.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas qymisw oti kata thn episkech, ton perasmeno Ioynio, toy Prwqypoyrgoy Kwsta Shmith -kai Proedreyonta tote ths E.E.- ston Proedro twn HPA k. Mpoys, egine syzhthsh gia to anoigma twn eyrwpaikwn agorwn, sta metallagmena proionta. Qelw, epishs, na sas qymisw pws yphrje staqerh arnhsh ths E.E. kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy, ws Proedreyontos ths E.E., se ayto to anoigma ths agoras.

KOLLIOPOYLOY: Hqela na rwthsw ean exete kapoio sxolio gia thn teleytaia hmera ths dikhs ths ``17N'' kai ean yparxei periptwsh kai allwn syllhcewn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws gnwrizete, anakoinwqhkan oi poines. Oson afora to deytero erwthma sas, den ekproswpw tis Arxes Asfaleias kai den mporw na to gnwrizw. Ean ginontai syllhceis kai poy ginontai, afora tis Arxes Asfaleias. Apo kei kai pera, san ena geniko sxolio gia th dikh ths ``17N'', qelw na epanalabw to pro ebdomados, sxolio mas: H kybernhsh ekfrazei thn ikanopoihsh ths, dioti ayth h dikh efqase sto telos ths me swstes diadikasies, mesa sto plaisio kai to pneyma toy kratoys dikaioy. H dikaiosynh aponemetai. Gnwrizoyme pia toys fysikoys kai hqikoys aytoyrgoys twn apotropaiwn egklhmatwn ths ``17N''. Anhkei pleon sto parelqon mia ypoqesh poy talanise ton ellhniko lao gia tosa xronia. Oi enoxoi plhrwnoyn.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Exete kati na mas anakoinwsete gia th synanthsh poy eixe to prwi o Prwqypoyrgos me to Grammatea toy PASOK Mixalh Xrysoxoidh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Synhqhs diadikasia, programmatikh synanthsh toy Proedroy me to Grammatea toy kommatos . Ejetasthkan ola ta qemata poy aforoyn th drasthriothta toy kommatos kai thn proetoimasia toy gia tis ekloges, sto epomeno xroniko diasthma kai kyriws stoys epomenoys mhnes.

KOYIN:Yparxei qema anabolhs kapoiwn programmatismenwn episkecewn toy Prwqypoyrgoy; Epishs, ti qa ginei me tis programmatismenes periodeies;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayta qa ta anakoinwsei to komma. Ej oswn gnwrizw o Prwqypoyrgos epeidh qelei na proetoimastei kala gia th syzhthsh gia ton Proypologismo -mia koryfaia koinoboyleytikh diadikasia kai stigmh gia ton politiko mas bio- zhthse na anablhqei h programmatisqeisa gia th Deytera to prwi synanthsh toy me toys ypochfioys boyleytes, h opoia qa pragmatopoihqei se nea hmeromhnia poy qa orisei to PASOK.

Oso gia tis periodeies qa ginoyn kanonika tis hmeres poy qa anakoinwsei to komma. Ayta syzhthqhkan to prwi sth synanthsh poy eixe o Prwqypoyrgos me ton Grammatea toy PASOK.

MOYRTHS: Meta tis dhmosies topoqethseis pollwn stelexwn ths N.D. sxetika me tis dhlwseis toy epitimoy Proedroy toy kommatos k. Mhtsotakh, epimenete sth xqesinh qesh sas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi qeseis mas exoyn dikaiwqei plhrws. Par oti polla stelexh ths N.D. epixeirhsan na emfanistoyn, ws dhqen filolaikoi kai filergatikoi, qelw na toys systhsw na diabasoyn -an oxi tis dhlwseis toy k. Mhtsotakh, oi opoies eginan dyo fores- toylaxiston, th synenteyjh toy arxhgoy toys k. Kwsta Karamanlh, sthn ``KAQHMERINH'' ths Kyriakhs. Ayta ta opoia, me kapoion ypokryptomeno, plagio tropo, leei o k. Karamanlhs sthn efhmerida, safws kai me eyqy tropo ta leei o k. Mhtsotakhs th Deytera kai thn Trith. O idios o k. Karamanlhs leei oti qa prepei na ginei ereyna twn stoixeiwn, oti qa prepei na pame se eidika programmata se symfwnia me thn E.E., ypainissetai qema gia to asfalistiko kai ta ergasiaka dikaiwmata. Ola ta leei ypainiktika kai me perifrastiko tropo. Ayta poy perigrafei o k. Karamanlhs, me tropo poy na mh dhmioyrgei amesa entypwseis sthn koinh gnwmh, alla opoios diabasei th synenteyjh toy ta katalabainei, ta eipe kaqara o k. Mhtsotakhs. To qema einai oti o k. Mhtsotakhs den ftaiei dioti eipe thn alhqeia. Ekeinoi poy ftaine einai aytoi poy prospaqoyn na krycoyn thn alhqeia apo ton ellhniko lao. Dhladh, oi paragontes ths N.D. Kala den exoyn to qarros, toylaxiston, na omologhsoyn ayta poy programmatizoyn na kanoyn, ean o ellhnikos laos toys dwsei thn kybernhsh; Oyte ayto to qarros den diaqetoyn;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Afoy symfwnoyn oi kyrioi Karamanlhs kai Mhtsotakhs, pragma poy ki eseis to eipate, to problhma sas poio einai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kanena. Ayto einai problhma ths N.D., alla kai toy ellhnikoy laoy, poy -kata th N.D.- prepei ``na sfijei to zwnari''. Den einai diko mas problhma. Emeis endiaferomaste gia ton ellhniko lao.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eseis endiafereste gia ton ellhniko lao! Swqhkame twra.

PRWTOPAPAS: O ellhnikos laos mas exei eklejei, den jerw ean to qymaste.

GIANNISHS: Shmera o k. Papaqemelhs paroysiazei to neo toy komma, exete na kanete kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den nomizw oti xreiazetai na kanw kanena sxolio. Ws gnwston, sthn Ellada oi polites exoyn dikaiwma na idryoyn politika kommata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H ayrianh dikh qa ginei kanonika;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto to qema den afora thn politikh enhmerwsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati den afora; Politikh dikh einai.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai politikh, einai poinikh dikh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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