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Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-10-07

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 7 Oktwbrioy 2002

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy:

Shmera stis 11 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos paresth sthn teleth toy agiasmoy gia thn enarjh ths neas koinoboyleytikhs periodoy. Stis 2 meta to meshmeri, qa metabei sthn Trapeza ths Elladas, opoy qa exei geyma ergasias me th Dioikhsh ths Trapezas ths Elladas. Ejerxomenos qa probei se dhlwsh sxetika me thn poreia ths oikonomias.

Ayrio Trith, stis 11 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa apeyqynqei sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada toy PASOK, me mia ef olhs ths ylhs omilia, kata thn opoia, bebaiws, qa anaferqei se ola ta zhthmata ths sygkyrias. To anoigma qa kanei me syntomo xairetismo o Grammateas ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas k. Nikos Lebogiannhs kai sth synexeia o Prwqypoyrgos qa apeyqynei politikh omilia. Qa diakocei h Koinoboyleytikh Omada kai h syzhthsh qa ginei meta tis dhmotikes ekloges.

Thn Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, qa exei synanthsh me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias Kwnstantino Stefanopoylo kai stis 11.30, qa synanthqei me thn ka Gianna Aggelopoyloy. H Diypoyrgikh Epitroph gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes qa synedriasei meta tis ekloges.

Thn Pempth, stis 11 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa metabei sto ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs, opoy qa exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Mixalh Xrysoxoidh. Sth synexeia, qa ginoyn dhlwseis gia zhthmata poy sxetizontai me thn asfaleia toy polith kai tis nees prwtoboylies toy ypoyrgeioy Dhmosias Tajhs kai ths kybernhshs genikotera se ayth thn kateyqynsh.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 10 to prwi, qa synedriasei to epikoinwniako epiteleio. Aneblhqh h programmatismenh gia ayrio synanthsh.

Epishs, prepei na sas pw oti o Prwqypoyrgos eixe thlefwnikh epikoinwnia, thn Paraskeyh, me ton k. Eyaggelo Giannopoylo. Toy thlefwnhse kai milhsan gia arketh wra kai toy eyxhqhke na einai grhgora konta mas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

MPOTWNHS: Xqes, k. Ekproswpe, akoysame ton k. Mhtsotakh, o opoios milhse kaqara gia to mhnyma, dhladh, na fygei ayth h anikanh, opws eipe, kybernhsh gia to kalo toy topoy. Pws sxoliazete ayto to neo mhnyma poy exei sygkekrimenoys apodektes;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kapoioi, emfanizomenoi ws dhqen aggelioforoi, yponomeyoyn to paron kai to mellon ths Aytodioikhshs. Emeis leme ``oxi'' sthn polwsh kai to dixasmo poy epixeirei h N.D. Leme ``oxi'' se kaqe eidoys syndiallagh. Oi ekloges einai gia thn Aytodioikhsh. Chfizoyme ton kalytero gia Dhmarxo h Nomarxh. Bebaiws, ofeiloyme na prostatecoyme to qesmo, thn aytonomia toy kai ton anaptyjiako toy rolo. Na ton prostatecoyme apo thn ypobaqmish, apo thn yponomeysh, thn opoia epixeirei, me thn taktikh ths, h N.D. Exoyme thn ektimhsh oti oi polites qa strateyqoyn gi` ayto.

ANTYPAS: Proseja oti xrhsimopoihsate th lejh ``syndiallagh''. ``Leme oxi sthn opoiadhpote syndiallagh'', eipate. Mporeite na to dieykrinisete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai aytes oi epafes poy ginontai. Einai xarakthristikh h epafh poy eixe o k. Mhtsotakhs me ton k. Karatzaferh, prokeimenoy na ejasfalistei h yposthrijh akrodejiwn dynamewn pros toys ypochfioys ths N.D., gia to deytero gyro.

GIAKOYMHS: Fantazomai oti to mhnyma ayto poy stelnete ki eseis shmera apo edw, poy lete oxi sthn polwsh kai to dixasmo, anaferomenos sth N.D., to idio mhnyma stelnete kai sto diko sas komma, dioti to Sabbatokyriako yphrxe entonh antiparaqesh metajy toy PASOK kai ths N.D., alla gia enan periergo logo, to qema twn akrodejiwn, to anebazei h kybernhsh kai oxi h N.D. Eseis egeirete qema akrodejiwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Me sygxwreite, alla ayto einai apolytws logiko, dioti ean to eqete h N.D. qa eprokeito peri aytoktonikhs prajhs. Den nomizw oti epiqymei kaneis na aytoktonhsei liges hmeres pro twn eklogwn. Den einai bebaia ayto to kyriarxo stoixeio toy proeklogikoy agwna. Ayto einai apolytws safes. Alla, yparxei mia pragmatikothta, thn opoia blepei o kosmos. To kyriarxo stoixeio toy proeklogikoy agwna -kai ayto qelw na to katasthsw apolyta safes- einai to periexomeno, o rolos kai to mellon ths Aytodioikhshs. Prosejte: H N.D. den exei chfisei oyte ena nomo, ayta ta eikosi xronia, poy symballei oysiastika sthn anabaqmish ths Aytodioikhshs. Exei ``jexasei'' na mas pei akomh an anairei tis topoqethseis ths gia ton aireto Nomarxh kai gia to sxedio ``Iwannhs Kapodistrias''. Ayto, kata th gnwmh mas, einai to pragmatiko periexomeno twn eklogwn: To mellon ths Aytodioikhshs. Kai bebaiws h eklogh twn kalyterwn, ws Nomarxwn kai Dhmarxwn, qa eggyhqei ayto to mellon, thn aytonomia ths Aytodioikhshs kai th dynatothta toy anaptyjiakoy ths roloy. Ayto einai to pragmatiko periexomeno, to diakybeyma -kai gia opoion epiqymei mhnymata- kai to mhnyma twn eklogwn: Ti mellon qa exei h Aytodioikhsh; Ti mellon qa exei o qesmos; Bebaiws, yparxoyn kai orismena zhthmata, ta opoia den einai prwteyonta, alla den mporei kaneis na mhn ta sxoliasei giati einai apolyta mesa sto politiko skhniko. Gia paradeigma, oi synanthseis me ton k. Karatzaferh kai ta ``pazaria'' poy fobomaste oti qa epakoloyqhsoyn gia to deytero gyro, einai ena idiaitera arnhtiko gegonos. Den prepei na anadeiknyoyme akrodejies antilhceis; To gegonos oti gia paradeigma einai epishmos ypochfios ths N.D. stoy Zwgrafoy o k. Kazakos, dhmarxos epi xoyntas, einai ena arnhtiko gegonos. To gegonos oti mia seira ypochfioi nomarxes htan melh ths Symboyleytikhs einai ena arnhtiko gegonos. Kai giati einai arnhtiko; Oxi giati qeloyme na kanoyme kamia proswpikh epiqesh, alla giati deixnei mia antilhch poy einai epikindynh kai gia thn idia th N.D., alla panw apo ola gia thn politikh zwh ths xwras mas. Einai epikindyno na erqoyn sto proskhnio akrodejies antilhceis.

ALEJAKHS: Pisteyei h kybernhsh oti yparxei fobos enisxyshs ths akrodejias tashs sthn Ellada, mesa apo ayta ta nea dedomena;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. Eipame pio einai to pragmatiko problhma.

SKOYRHS: Giati tessera xronia den sas peirazan oi akrodejioi ypochfioi poy leitoyrgoysan; Dhladh, pote den sas exw akoysei sta tessera ayta xronia na balate enantion toy k. Eymoiridh kai allwn kai epishs den eixa dei kanenan ypoyrgo h boyleyth apo th Qessalonikh na bgazei anakoinwsh otan kaigotan to biblio. Kai deyteron, einai pagkosmia prwtotypia na leme oti oi dhmotikes ekloges den stelnoyn politiko mhnyma.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa poio einai to politiko mhnyma. An kapoios qelei na anazhthsei politika mhnymata, ayta einai ta ejhs: Poio einai to paron kai to mellon ths Aytodioikhshs. An qa exoyme toys kalyteroys gia dhmarxoys kai nomarxes. An qa exoyme anqrwpoys poy pisteyoyn sthn Aytodioikhsh kai einai ikanoi na odhghsoyn sthn anabaqmish ths poiothtas zwhs twn politwn. An xreiazontai "dekanikia" h oxi. Kai an mporoyn na eggyhqoyn oti qa exoyme mia Aytodioikhsh, pragmatiko qesmo laikhs ejoysias, me thn aytonomia, thn anejarthsia kai ton anaptyjiako rolo ths. Ayto einai to pragmatiko mhnyma. Ola ta ypoloipa einai polwsh, kommatismos kai dixasmos. Den einai prosfora sthn Aytodioikhsh. O laos prepei na bgei enwmenos to brady twn eklogwn.

Oson afora to prwto erwthma sas, to exoyme janapei ayta ta tessera xronia. Gia paradeigma, epaneilhmmena exoyn ginei tetoies anafores gia to Dhmo Zwgrafoy kai malista me aformh kai thn epeteio toy Polytexneioy, kaqws kai apo ypoyrgoys ths kybernhshs. Qelw, epishs, na qymisw oti o k. Kazakos, thn prohgoymenh fora, den htan ypochfios ths N.D. Twra einai.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Me aformh kai ayth thn anakoinwsh poy ebgale h N.D., qa hqela na sas pw oti oysiastika anasyrete fantasmata toy parelqontos. Den pisteyete oti oles aytes oi anafores einai ligo parwxhmenes; Dhladh, kindyneyei h Topikh Aytodioikhsh apo anqrwpoys oi opoioi prin apo 30 xronia eixan synergastei me th xoynta; Den einai parwxhmenh olh ayth h fraseologia;

PRWTOPAPAS: H Topikh Aytodioikhsh kindyneyei apo to na qewrhqoyn oi dhmotikes ekloges prokrima boyleytikwn eklogwn kai na kaloyntai oi polites apo epishma xeilh ths N.D. na rijoyn thn kybernhsh, opws eipwqhke xqes, me aformh tis dhmotikes ekloges. Apo ayto kindyneyei h Aytodioikhsh. Aytes einai epikindynes prajeis gia thn Aytodioikhsh. Einai mia polwsh, enas dixasmos toy idioy toy laoy, einai mia yponomeytikh politikh se baros toy qesmoy, ths aytonomias kai toy anaptyjiakoy roloy ths Aytodioikhshs. Apo ekei kai pera, den qewrw oti o k. Karatzaferhs einai mia parelqoysa katastash. Einai mia shmerinh katastash. Otan arxizeis na "pazareyeis" me tis antilhceis toy k. Karatzaferh, einai ena sobaro qema.

BITALHS: Einai eklegmenos sth Boylh, omws, o k. Karatzaferhs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den ejelegh me th shmaia aytwn poy yposthrizei shmera. Prosexw na diaforopoihsw th N.D. apo tetoies antilhceis kai to kanw poly epimelws ayto. Den qeloyme, dhladh, na taytisoyme ena megalo dhmokratiko komma me tetoies antilhceis. To idio prepei na prosejei, wste na mhn kanei to laqos. Giati o k. Karatzaferhs den ejelegh me ta synqhmata kai th shmaia aytwn poy leei shmera.

BITALHS: Nai, alla o tonos poy xrhsimopoihsate gia th synanthsh toy k. Mhtsotakh me ton k. Karatzaferh einai kapws aforistikos, apo th stigmh poy kai oi dyo einai boyleytes.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaneis den mporei na toys apagoreysei na synanthqoyn. Alla, to na "pazarecei" h N.D. tis chfoys toy k. Karatzaferh enanti profanws antallagmatwn, einai ena epikindyno qema. Ayto einai to problhma. Den einai to problhma na milas.

KAPPOS: Qa hqela na sas kanw mia ypoqetikh erwthsh. Sto deytero gyro twn nomarxiakwn eklogwn sthn Aqhna, ti qa synefere perissotero thn paratajh sas kai thn kybernhsh; Didymo Tzannetakoy-Gennhmata h Karatzaferh-Gennhmata;

PRWTOPAPAS: To qema den einai ti symferei thn paratajh mas, alla ti symferei to lao ths Aqhnas. Aytos qa krinei, qa epilejei kai h epilogh toy einai sebasth. Ofeilw, bebaiws, na pw thn apoch moy ws komma kai kybernhsh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Epeidh ayth thn wra einai koino mystiko oti to PASOK exei rijei ayto to synqhma peri xoyntikwn kai akrodejiwn katastasewn sth N.D....

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eipa gia th N.D.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Ma, onomasate kai boyleytes.

PRWTOPAPAS: Hmoyn poly prosektikos. Eipa na mhn yparxoyn syndiallages kai pazaria.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: An eklegoyn telika perissoteroi dhmarxoi kai koinotarxes ths N.D., h Ellada qa exei xoyntikes katastaseis; Einai epikindynos dhladh o dromos poy dialejate.

PRWTOPAPAS: Profanws, den prosejate thn topoqethsh moy. Den eipa oti h N.D. einai akrodejio komma. Eipa oti einai laqos na polwneis, na dixazeis kai na syndialegesai me orismenoys akrodejioys. Kai anefera, xarakthristika, ton k. Karatzaferh. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws einai sth diakritikh eyxereia toy ellhnikoy laoy na eklejei opoiondhpote. Alla, oi periptwseis poy ginetai ayth h syndiallagh einai sygkekrimenes kai den ginetai gia na eklegei o k. Karatzaferhs, opws katalabate, alla gia na parei kapoies chfoys ap` ayton h N.D.. Einai allo to ena kai allo to allo.

SKOYRHS: Sth Boylh, prin apo tis boyleytikes ekloges, yparxei ena plaisio gia to politiko xrhma. Eimaste se mia katastash ligo prin tis dhmotikes ekloges, poy blepoyme oxi mono apo ypochfioys dhmarxoys, alla kai apo ypochfioys dhmotikoys kai nomarxiakoys symboyloys na jodeyontai apisteyta posa. Hqela na sas rwthsw, prwton kanete thn aytokritikh sas giati den exete kanei ena plaisio gia to politiko xrhma stis dhmotikes ekloges; Kai deyteron, skefteste na labete kapoia metra gia na perioristei ayth h spatalh poy einai kai proklhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete oti exoyme labei ta metra mas. Exoyme ena safes kai prosdiorismeno plaisio gia thn antimetwpish ths sxeshs politikhs kai oikonomias h opws to onomasate "politiko xrhma", kata th diarkeia toy proeklogikoy agwna gia tis boyleytikes ekloges kai tis eyrwekloges. Ayto einai safes, isxyei kai einai plhres. Bebaiws, yparxoyn problhmata gia tis dhmotikes ekloges, ta opoia anefyhsan olh ayth thn periodo. Shmeiwnw ton problhmatismo poy yphrje. Pragmati, qa prepei na doyme me poio tropo ena analogo plaisio qa isxysei gia tis dhmotikes kai tis nomarxiakes ekloges. Bebaiws, yparxei sobarh dyskolia se sxesh me thn anaptyjh elegktikwn mhxanismwn ston tomea ayto, giati einai polloi oi syndyasmoi kai topikoy xarakthra kai oi elegktikoi mhxanismoi prepei na exoyn mia poly megalyterh anaptyjh kai dynatothta na kanoyn ayto, poy gia tis boyleytikes ekloges einai aplo kai elegjimo. O problhmatismo sas einai kai dikos mas problhmatismos. Qa exoyme thn eykairia na ta poyme kai meta tis ekloges. Se kaqe periptwsh, omws, qelw na jekaqarisw oti kaneis den mpainei sth logikh -toylaxiston emeis den qeloyme na mpoyme- ths dienergeias proeklogikoy agwna me th xrhsimopoihsh megalwn poswn, ta opoia to mono poy qa petyxoyn einai na prokalesoyn ton polith.

MIXAHL: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw gia th xqesinh protash poy ekane o Grammateas toy PASOK Kwstas Laliwths. Ginetai mia kritikh oti ayth h protash dixazei, giati qa mpei se mia logikh anametrhshs toy poioi einai kai poioi den einai me thn tromokratia. Ti apantate se ayto; Sas qymizw oti prosfata eixame kai mia dhmoskophsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean breqoyme oloi mazi se mia diadhlwsh kata ths tromokratias, ean dwsoyme oloi mazi to parwn ston agwna kata ths tromokratias, pisteyete oti qa yparjei kapoio problhma; To antiqeto. Qa enwqei o laos kai oloi oi polites qa katalaboyn oti o agwnas ths Dhmokratias kata ths tromokratias mas afora oloys, einai koinos gia oloys mas. Qelw na pisteyw oti mesa apo to dialogo poy qa anaptyxqei qa breqoyn oi anagkaies koines lyseis, prokeimenoy na pragmatopoihqei ayth h diadhlwsh. Prepei oloi mazi na dwsoyme to parwn.

SKOYRHS: H Nea Dhmokratia qetei ws oro, prokeimenoy na symmetexei se mia tetoia ekdhlwsh, h poreia na paei mexri th Boylh. Hqela na sas rwthsw, dhladh h tromokratia qa "callidisei" ena mhnyma apo to Polytexneio, opws to gnwrisame ws shmera kai poy eixe ws telikh katalhjh thn amerikanikh presbeia; Qa to dexqeite eseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epiqymoyme na arxisei aytos o dialogos giati mas endiaferei idiaitera h enothta toy laoy kai twn politikwn dynamewn se ayton ton agwna. Einai safes oti kata th diarkeia toy dialogoy qa prepei na anazhthqoyn koines lyseis. Den exw, loipon, ayth th stigmh th dynatothta na sas apanthsw giati den exoyn ginei epishmes protaseis sto trapezi toy dialogoy. Na eiste, omws, bebaioi oti stoxos mas einai na anazhthsoyme tis koines lyseis. Otan qeloyme na ginei kati koino, qa prepei na broyme kai ti mas enwnei.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Hqela na sas rwthsw an jerete h synenteyjh ayth poy edwse o k. Giwtopoylos etsi opws bghke apo tis fylakes Korydalloy, htan en gnwsei twn swfronistikwn ypallhlwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws, oxi.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Jerete pws bghke;

PRWTOPAPAS: Jerw oti qa ginei ereyna ep` aytoy.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Ti ennoeite ereyna;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo tis arxes twn fylakwn. Qa pragmatopoihqei ereyna gia to pws "bghke" ayth h synenteyjh. Alla se kanenos th gnwsh den eixe perielqei.

SKOYRHS: Me sygxwreite, alla to qema einai oti den maqainoyme ta apotelesmata kai twn allwn ereynwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai etsi. Den shmainei oti katalhgoyn oles oi ereynes.

SKOYRHS: Dhladh, pane sto arxeio gia paradeigma; Poso diarkei mia ereyna; Oi ereynes einai gia tis kalendes;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai piqano mia ereyna na mhn katalhjei, dioti den yparxoyn aytoptes martyres se mia synomilia, toy Giwtopoyloy gia paradeigma, me opoiondhpote. Jerete poly kala oti yparxoyn kapoioi prwtoi prosdiorismoi. Omws, ep` aytwn prepei na ginei mia ereyna. Ekeino poy qelw na sas diabebaiwsw einai oti kaneis apo th Dieyqynsh twn Fylakwn kai eidikotera apo th Dieyqynsh toy Swfronistikoy Systhmatos den eixe ypoch toy ayth thn istoria.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Dhladh, yparxei periptwsh ayth h synenteyjh na mh doqhke kai graptws;

PRWTOPAPAS: Graptws den mporei na exei doqei kata to episkepthrio. Gi` ayto sas diabebaiw.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Dhladh, kapoios mporei na eixe ena magnhtofwnaki@ Pws bgazete to symperasma oti den mporei na exei doqei graptws;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei epikoinwnia.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Lene oti thn metefere h k. Pino.

PRWTOPAPAS: Epanalambanw oti den yparxei epikoinwnia kai metafora graptoy.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Mia allh periptwsh yparxei, na doqhke thlefwnika. Den yparxei allh periptwsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Thlefwnikh epikoinwnia metajy toy Giwtopoyloy kai efhmeridas, opws katalabainete, den yphrje. Twra, ti exei ginei akribws pisteyw oti qa to broyme kata th diejagwgh ths ereynas.

GIAKOYMHS: Ti ennoeite akribws;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporoyme na ta jeroyme ola. Qa ginei ereyna.

BITALHS: Na to dwsei sto Giwtopoylo h na parei apo to Giwtopoylo etoimo keimeno;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oyte to prwto, oyte kyriws to deytero. Praktika ayth th stigmh den mporoyme na kanoyme senariologia. Einai sigoyro oti den yparxei h dynatothta ths epafhs me grapto keimeno. Ean apo ekei kai pera to keimeno htan apo prin h an yphrje allos tropos epikoinwnias mesw tritoy, einai allo zhthma. Alla ayto qa to diapistwsoyme me thn ereyna poy qa pragmatopoihqei.

GIAKOYMHS: Mporeite na mas peite ti ennoeite;

PRWTOPAPAS: An sas pw ti ennow, einai safes oti qa prokatalabw to apotelesma mias ereynas. Apo ton tropo poy ginetai h epikoinwnia twn kratoymenwn, den mporei na bgei grapto keimeno. Ta ypoloipa qa ta broyme.

MIXAHL: Exw dyo apories: Prwton, an h ereyna perioristei sto xwro twn fylakwn, dhladh ston tropo leitoyrgias oloy toy Swfronistikoy Systhmatos, poioys blepoyn, pws epikoinwnoyn, ola ayta h qa epektaqei kai ejw apo to xwro ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Poy ejw; Den ginontai ayta ta pragmata. Eimaste dhmokratikh xwra. Eseis eiste dhmosiografos. An sas efernan mia synenteyjh kai sas elegan meta bebaiothtas oti proerxetai apo to sygkekrimeno proswpo, qa mpainate ston peirasmo, endexomenws, na th dhmosieysete. To pragmatiko qema einai stis fylakes, den einai ektos.

MIXAHL: Einai stoixeio oloy aytoy toy systhmatos fylakishs twn kratoymenwn kai oi dikhgoroi toys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa moy epitrecete na mhn apanthsw. Den mporw na kathgorhsw kapoion gia ton opoio den exw stoixeia.

POYLIDOY: Ti protiqetai na kanei h Ellada ws pros to Dieqnes Poiniko Dikasthrio; Dhladh, protiqetai na synypogracei me thn Amerikh dimerh symfwnia gia thn kyrwsh toy roloy toy Dieqnoys Poinikoy Dikasthrioy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa sas apanthsw ayrio.

SKOYRHS: Epeidh yparxoyn diafora senaria gia omospondia koyrdikoy kratoys sto Irak, h Ellada emmenei sth qesh ths gia sebasmo twn synorwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai safes oti h Ellada emmenei sth qesh ths peri sebasmoy twn synorwn. Qeloyme na diathrhqei to status quo sthn perioxh kai qewrw oti den einai fronimh h opoiadhpote skech gia allagh twn synorwn se eyaisqhtes perioxes.

ALEJAKHS: Xqes, o k. Etsebit afhse anoixto to endexomeno epembashs gia prostasia twn toyrkmanikwn plhqysmwn sthn perioxh. Pws skefteste na antidrasei h kybernhsh panw se ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: O,tidhpote ginei sthn perioxh -kai ektimoyme oti yparxoyn akomh periqwria gia eirhnikh lysh- prepei na ginei mesw toy OHE. O OHE einai ekeinos o opoios qa kaqorisei ta parapera bhmata.

Sas eyxaristw.


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