Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-07-04

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 4 Ioylioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

TAKHS: O k. Karamanlhs, prin apo ligh wra sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada toy kommatos toy eipe, oti ean o Prwqypoyrgos qelei kaqares lyseis, qa prepei na proxwrhsei se prowres ekloges. Poio einai to sxolio ths kybernhshs;

REPPAS: O k. Karamanlhs epanalambanei ayto poy gnwrizei kai mporei na kanei. Anti na dhmioyrgei, katastrofologei. Anti na proteinei, kataggellei. H Nea Dhmokratia einai ena komma diamartyrias, den mporei na ginei komma ejoysias, para to proswpeio poy xrhsimopoiei gia na apoprosanatolisei kai na paraplanhsei toys polites. Paramenei desmia toy parelqontos. Den einai komma eyqynhs, den exei programma, den exei qeseis, den exei dynameis gia kybernhtika kaqhkonta. H kybernhsh exei entolh tetraetias kai qa antapokriqei se ayth thn entolh. Oi anagkes syspeirwshs twn opadwn ths N.D. epiballoyn sthn hgesia ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs me tetoioy eidoys texnasmata kai "pyrotexnhmata", gia dhqen epikeimenes ejelijeis na strefetai enantion ths kybernhshs kai toy PASOK. Omws, opws exoyn deijei polles metrhseis ayth th syspeirwsh mporei na thn epitygxanei, alla sta eklogika apotelesmata to PASOK kerdizei, gia na apodeixqei telikws apo tis ejelijeis oti to PASOK einai kalh kybernhsh kai h N.D. kakh antipoliteysh. Ara, loipon, den prepei, para to oti eimaste se qerinh periodo kapoioi na blepoyn oneira tis qerines nyxtes, giati o ellhnikos laos einai o "jenodoxos" kai se ayton plhrwnoyme oloi to logariasmo. H wra toy logariasmoy qa erqei, opws problepoyn to Syntagma kai oi nomoi toy kratoys.

TAKHS: H deyterh erwthsh afora thn ekqesh mias epitrophs toy Eyrwpaikoy Koinoboylioy poy qa syzhthqei shmera sthn olomeleia. Afora arketes xwres, metajy twn opoiwn kai thn Ellada. Kanei logo oti h Ellada enocei twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn askei politikh -ean qelete- ekkaqarisewn twn tsigganwn poy zoyn sta perixwra ths Aqhnas. Bebaia, kanei logo kai gia Moysoylmanoys, alla kyriws anaferetai se ayto to qema. Exete kapoio sxolio ep` aytoy;

REPPAS: Oi ekqeseis aytes einai asfalws shmantikes, giati deixnoyn oti exei ginei mia oysiastikh ergasia twn stelexwn poy tis exoyn katartisei. Prepei pantote na meletoyme to periexomeno toys kai na bgazoyme symperasmata. H ekqesh sthn opoia anafereste, sxetizetai me drasthriothtes twn kybernhsewn se diafores xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, oxi mono sthn Ellada. H ekqesh anaferetai kai stis legomenes prohgmenes xwres ths E.E., gia tis opoies oi arnhtikoi xarakthrismoi perisseyoyn. Prepei na pw oti h Ellada einai mia xwra -kai ayto to gnwrizete eseis oi dhmosiografoi poy zeite edw kai anafereste, kanontas reportaz, sta diafora qemata- opoy h isonomia kai h isopoliteia apoteloyn kaqestws. Den dikaiologeitai h diatypwsh kataggelias gia politikes ekkaqarisewn h merolhcias se baros koinwnikwn h eqnotikwn omadwn. Ayto to opoio prepei pantote na exoyme ypoch mas einai toyto: Sto plaisio ths leitoyrgias toy ellhnikoy kratoys, an yparxoyn fainomena kakodioikhshs h paratyphs symperiforas, ayta prepei na anadeiknyontai, na kataggellontai kai na elegxontai. Ayto, omws, den prepei na sygxeetai me thn politikh poy akoloyqei h kybernhsh, h politeia mas genikotera apenanti se oloys osoi zoyn se ayth th xwra. Akoloyqoyme -kai ayto den mporei kaneis na to amfisbhthsei- politikh xwris diakriseis, xwris merolhcia, mia politikh isonomias kai isopoliteias. Ayto einai poy exei shmasia. H Ellada -to gnwrizoyn oloi- ston tomea ayto prwtoporei. Kai ayto para ta polla problhmata poy dhmioyrgoyntai ejaitias ths gewgrafikhs qeshs sthn opoia brisketai, ta ektetamena synora poy exei, to poso ekteqeimenoi eimaste sthn eisodo jenwn politwn, oi opoioi mporei gia ena xroniko diasthma na diabioyn paranomws sthn Ellada. H Ellada feretai me dhmokratiko tropo stoys polites poy zoyn se ayth kai apodeiknyei sthn prajh thn isonomia kai thn isopoliteia.

MIXAHL: Eiste kybernhsh apo to ' 93. Giati den exei proxwrhsei h enswmatwsh h h prosarmogh toy ellhnikoy dikaioy me eyrwpaikes odhgies, oson afora to qema twn elegxwn trofimwn; Me aformh to kroysma poy egine sto Kilkis, anadeiknyetai oti h Ellada breqhke kathgoroymenh polles fores sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio gia thn prosarmogh stis koinotikes odhgies, ston tropo poy leitoyrgoyn ta sfageia kai ston tropo twn metrwn ygieinhs poy lambanontai. Giati emeis, loipon, exoyme kaqysterhsei; Kai sas rwtw edw, giati einai men qema toy ypoyrgeioy Gewrgias, alla kai giati einai meizon qema politiko to oti den prosarmosthkame.

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, h xwra mas, oson afora thn enswmatwsh koinotikwn odhgiwn sto eqniko mas dikaio, brisketai sto idio epipedo me polles alles xwres ths E.E. Den ysteroyme. O ryqmos o opoios akoloyqeitai se aytes tis periptwseis, einai peripoy idios me ayton twn allwn xwrwn ths E.E. Apo thn allh, den prepei tetoioy eidoys qemata na ta anakalyptoyme otan prokyptei ena parempipton problhma, opws ayto me to sygkekrimeno zwo, to opoio apodeixqhke oti nosoyse apo spoggwdh egkefalopaqeia. Oi elegxoi poy ginontai sthn Ellada ston tomea ayto einai systhmatikoi. Prepei na sas pw oti, throymenwn twn analogiwn, h Ellada prwtoporei, oson afora to systhma elegxoy poy exei egkaqidrysei. Alliws, pws qa mporoyse na ejhghsei kaneis oti se alles megales xwres ths E.E., opws h Megalh Bretania, ta kroysmata einai xiliades, dekades xiliades. Sthn Ellada exoyme ena kroysma. Ayto den dhmioyrgei kindynoys gia th dhmosia ygeia, afoy oi elegxoi einai asfyktikoi kai lambanontai -peran twn prolhptikwn- katastaltika metra poy diasfalizoyn th dhmosia ygeia. Epanalambanw, me thn eykairia ayth, oti enw oi elegxoi ginontai, enw exoyme pragmati ayto to kroysma, den prepei na dwsoyme thn eikona mias xwras poy plhttetai kai ej aytoy toy logoy brisketai se mia qesh ychloy kindynoy, giati kati tetoio den antapokrinetai sthn pragmatikothta.

MIXAHL: Entajei na mh dwsoyme thn eikona mias xwras poy plhttetai. Omws, anadeiknyontai pia polles pleyres stis opoies ysteroyme. Na sas dwsw kai ena antepixeirhma, giati o dialogos den einai mono erwthmata, einai kai antepixeirhmata gia na apanthsete: Oi alles xwres se poly megalo baqmo exoyn lysei ta problhmata ygieinhs kai organwshs twn sfageiwn toys. Allo, ean yparxoyn apo alles aities ta problhmata. Emeis, loipon, tetoia problhmata den ta exoyme lysei. Yparxoyn kataggelies. Bgainei, shmera, o Proedros ths Kthniatrikhs Yphresias kai leei "nai, yparxei problhma me ta sfageia. Den mporoyme na ta elegjoyme ola. Einai paranoma polla". Giati, loipon, emeis den labame ayta ta metra;

REPPAS: Kanete ena laqos poy profanws proerxetai apo to oti den gnwrizete arketa to qema. H Ellada einai mia xwra agrotikh. Ena megalo tmhma toy plhqysmoy mas asxoleitai me ton prwtogenh tomea, pragma poy den symbainei se alles xwres ths E.E. Den gnwrizete oti sthn ellhnikh ypaiqro para polloi -kai einai qema eyqynhs kai twn politwn, peran toy elegxoy apo tis yphresies- drasthriopoioyntai ston prwtogenh tomea, para polloi sfazoyn ta zwa ektos twn sfageiwn; Poios mporei na toys elegjei; Ayto, asfalws, den einai epitrepto. Omws, sas lew apo thn allh, oti synhqws, para to oti mpainoyme se mia poly ejeidikeymenh syzhthsh, ta zwa poy sfazoyme gia na katanalwsoyme to kreas toys, einai mikrhs hlikias. Ara, den yparxei kanenas kindynos gia spoggwdh egkefalopaqeia, apo thn katanalwsh aytoy toy kreatos. O kindynos, bebaiws, yparxei, otan ena zwo exei mia allh asqeneia, opws ena zwo sthn Hleia, fer` eipein, poy paroysiazei mia noso fymatiwshs twn zwwn, pasxei apo ayth th noso. Den exei kamia sxesh ayth h nosos me th spoggwdh egkefalopaqeia. Sto zwiko basileio polla zwa nosoyn apo diafores asqeneies. Den prepei na odhgoymaste se genikeyseis. Kai h sygkrish me tis alles xwres ths E.E., asfalws mas kolakeyei kai mas prokalei. Exei ginei proodos. Exoyme, bebaiws, elleiceis kai kaqysterhseis se arketoys tomeis kai sto sygkekrimeno. Alla, prepei na deite poia einai h idiomorfia ths xwras mas. Ayth einai h diafora.

SOYGLERHS: Kindyneyei h xwras mas, apeileitai me dioikhtikes h nomoqetikes ryqmiseis, me kyrwseis, me prostima apo thn Komision, meta apo ayth thn ejelijh;

REPPAS: Den diatrexoyme tetoion kindyno, doqentos oti exoyme egkaqidrysei ena systhma elegxoy, san ayto poy isxyei kai stis alles xwres ths E.E. kai malista oxi oles. Gnwrizete oti apo thn 1h Ianoyarioy aytoy toy etoys ola ta zwa hlikias anw twn 30 mhnwn, elegxontai ypoxrewtika. Epishs, exei apagoreyqei h xrhsimopoihsh diaforwn zwotrofwn, kreataleyrwn, ostealeyrwn kai ixqyaleyrwn. Ayto ti shmainei; Shmainei oti exoyme parei ola ta aparaithta metra kai malista kinoymaste sto pio aysthro epipedo, prokeimenoy na diasfalisoyme th dhmosia ygeia.

Sas eyxaristw.

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