Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-11-22

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 22 Noembrioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Katarxas, na sas pw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy kata tis prosexeis hmeres.

* Ayth thn wra diejagontai syzhthseis, sto grafeio toy Prwqypoyrgoy, me thn hgesia ths Kyproy. Brisketai sthn Ellada o Proedros ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias k. Klhridhs. Argotera, qa parateqei geyma ston Kyprio Proedro kai thn kypriakh antiproswpeia.

* Ayrio stis 10.30 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkeftei ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias k. Kwnstantino Stefanopoylo kai qa ton enhmerwsei gia qemata ths epikairothtas. Argotera, stis 12 to meshmeri, qa dextei ton Dhmarxo Aqhnaiwn k. Abramopoylo kai sth 1 to meshmeri, qa episkeftei to ypoyrgeio Metaforwn sto neo ktirio, opoy qa syzhthsei qemata armodiothtas toy k. Mantelh.

* Thn Tetarth, opws gnwrizete, qa diejaxqei h pro hmerhsias diatajhs syzhthsh sth Boylh poy exei zhthsei h N. D., se epipedo arxhgwn kommatwn.

MIXAHL: H syzhthsh ayth einai gia ta eqnika qemata;

REPPAS: Oxi. H syzhthsh poy zhta o k. Tsobolas gia eqnika qemata exei prosdioristei, katarxas kai qa ginei stis 15 Dekembrioy, hmera Tetarth, epishs. Meqayrio, to apogeyma, h syzhthsh diejagetai meta apo protash ths N. D. kai afora qemata diafaneias sto dhmosio bio.

* Thn Pempth qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, me qema thn politikh gia tis mikromesaies epixeirhseis. Thn idia mera to apogeyma synedriazei to Ektelestiko Grafeio toy PASOK, enocei ths Synodoy ths K. E.

* Paraskeyh kai Sabbato, 26 kai 27 Noembrioy, o Prwqypoyrgos pragmatopoiei episkech sthn Krhth, stoys nomoys Hrakleioy kai Lasiqioy.

* Thn epomenh Deytera, qa episkeftei thn Ellada kai qa ginei dektos apo ton Prwqypoyrgo, o Genikos Grammateas toy NATO k. Rompertson. Einai o neos G. G., meta thn apoxwrhsh toy k. Solana, o opoios anelabe allh qesh.

* Epishs, thn epomenh ebdomada, thn Pempth 2 Dekembrioy anamenoyme, sto plaisio toy gyroy twn prwteyoyswn, opws ginetai se aytes tis periptwseis, ton Filando Prwqypoyrgo k. Liponen. Opws gnwrizete, h Filandia askei thn Proedria sthn E. E. ayto to ejamhno.

* Qa moy epitrecete, prin dexqw tis erwthseis, na kanw ena geniko sxolio:

H episkech toy Proedroy Klinton, sthn Ellada, stefqhke apo epityxia. Apodeiknyetai kai pali h orqothta ths qeshs ths kybernhshs oti prepei na diathroyme anoiktoys toys diayloys epikoinwnias, prepei na eimaste parontes, na proballoyme tis qeseis mas gia ola ta zhthmata ta opoia mas aforoyn. H aprajia kai h apoysia synistoyn mia stash epizhmia gia th xwra mas. Pisteyoyme oti h prosfath episkech toy Proedroy twn HPA apedeije pws h Ellada einai xrhsimo na syzhta, se epipedo hgesiwn, ta qemata ta opoia kaqorizoyn, se megalo baqmo, thn ejelijh sthn perioxh, alla kai thn proodo ths idias ths xwras mas. Emeis exoyme epilejei na eimaste parontes, me to logo kai thn prajh mas. Ayth thn politikh qa synexisoyme na akoloyqoyme.

Oson afora thn oysia twn syzhthsewn, prepei na pw oti sto plaisio ayths ths syzhthshs, eixame th dynatothta na anaptyjoyme, me leptomereies, thn epixeirhmatologia mas, gia ola ta zwtikhs shmasias qemata poy aptontai toso twn dimerwn sxesewn, oso kai ths eyryterhs synergasias twn dyo xwrwn. Pisteyoyme, pws h katanohsh poy epideixqhke apo thn allh pleyra stis qeseis poy emeis anaptyjame, einai fanerh. Oi dhlwseis, allwste, poy ekane o Proedros twn HPA einai mia qetikh ejelijh. Mporw na pw oti oi dhlwseis aytes prosqetoyn sto kefalaio twn dimerwn sxesewn, alla kai twn sxesewn ths eyryterhs synergasias. Me ayth thn ennoia kai epi ths oysias, mporei kapoios na ekfrasei ikanopoihsh gia to oti to tajidi ayto kai oi syzhthseis poy eginan sto plaisio aytoy toy tajidioy, htan epityxeis.

Qa moy epitrecete na kanw ena sxolio oson afora th stash twn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs.

H kybernhsh akoloyqei politikh me gnwmona to eqniko symferon. Pisteyoyme oti sthn prospaqeia ayth na enisxysoyme kai na isxyropoihsoyme akomh perissotero th dieqnh qesh ths xwras, qa prepei na symballoyme oloi. Einai akatanohth h qesh twn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs, poy tyflwmena apo ena antikybernhtiko paqos, endiaferontai mono kai mono na anadeiknyoyn thn antiqesh toys, th diafwnia toys pros thn kybernhsh kai oxi -diathrwntas tis opoies qeseis toys, anadeiknyontas tis diaforopoihseis toys- na symballoyn se ayth thn koinh prospaqeia gia na enisxysoyme to rolo kai thn paroysia ths Elladas sth dieqnh skhnh ta epomena xronia. Emeis qa synexisoyme ayth thn politikh, h opoia pisteyoyme oti einai apodotikh. Einai mia politikh poy kata thn apoch mas, peran toy oti antapokrinetai sta symferonta ths xwras, briskei symfwnh kai thn pamchfia toy ellhnikoy laoy.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: O Prwqypoyrgos qa kalesei toys arxhgoys twn politikwn kommatwn na toys enhmerwsei;

REPPAS: Sas anakoinwsa poio einai to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy tis prosexeis hmeres. Den problepetai kati tetoio.

MIXAHL: Milhsate gia akatanohth stash twn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs, poy diakatexontai apo tyflo antikybernhtiko menos. Den to perimenate;

REPPAS: H erwthsh poy diatypwnete einai, taytoxrona kai mia kathgoria gia thn kybernhsh, afoy qewreite oti h kybernhsh einai afelhs. Perimenoyme apo ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs na anadeiknyoyn tis qeseis toys. Ayto einai kati, apo th mia, gia to opoio mporei na pei kaneis, oti apotelei stoixeio ths fysiologias, ths leitoyrgias toy dhmokratikoy politeymatos mas. Apo thn allh, omws, yparxoyn stigmes kata tis opoies ta kommata qa prepei na arqoyn panw apo to mikrokosmo ston opoio exoyn perixarakwqei, wste na symbaloyn sthn koinh prospaqeia, poy ws eqnos, ws laos, kataballoyme gia thn Ellada toy 21oy aiwna. Gia mia Ellada poy qa einai pio isxyrh. Gia mia koinwnia poy qa einai pio anaptygmenh, gia enan lao poy qa proodeyei kai mporei na pei kaneis, oti kerdizei mia ajiozhleyth qesh, sthn pagkosmia koinothta. Ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs me th stash toys, prin, kata th diarkeia, alla kai meta thn episkech, edeijan pws to mono poy toys endiaferei, einai me tropo akomh kai prosxhmatiko, na antipoliteyqoyn thn kybernhsh. Den miloyn apeyqynomena sto eqniko akroathrio me ena logo eqnikoy symferontos. Ayto to opoio panta proexei einai na katakrinoyn thn kybernhsh. H entypwsh h opoia dhmioyrgeitai apo ta osa lene kai osa kanoyn einai oti ayto apotelei ton kyrio stoxo toys. Kai, etsi, thn wra poy h kybernhsh kanei megalh prospaqeia, me gnwmona to eqniko symferon, gia na enisxysei th qesh ths Elladas, ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs periorizontai sto na askoyn antipoliteysh sthn kybernhsh,. Den einai ayto to kyrio qema. To kyrio qema einai o kaqenas, sto metro poy toy analogei, na symbalei sthn koinh paneqnikh ayth prospaqeia. Kai den to kanoyn ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs.

MIXAHL: Epeidh to eqniko symferon, to kaqe komma to blepei apo th dikh toy optikh gwnia, kai ayto krinetai apo ton ellhniko lao, qelw na sas rwthsw: Eseis ektimate oti me ta osa eipe o Amerikanos Proedros, toso gia to oti oi diafores me thn Toyrkia na pane sth Xagh, oso oti qa piesei gia na ginoyn oysiastikes syzhthseis kai gia to qema ths entajiakhs poreias ths Toyrkias pros thn Eyrwph, oti aytes oi anafores proagoyn to eqniko symferon; Dhladh, h kybernhsh qewrei oti aytes einai "opla" poy mporei na ta ajiopoihsei;

REPPAS: Den qelw na epidoqoyme se ermhneia gia to baros, to periexomeno, th shmasia twn dhlwsewn toy Amerikanoy Proedroy. Ayto poy exei shmasia einai na ektimhsoyme aytes tis idies tis dhlwseis, tis qeseis poy ejefrase o Amerikanos Proedros. OI qeseis aytes -gnwrizete- sta megalhs shmasias qemata, antikatroptizoyn qeseis poy exei ekfrasei h ellhnikh kybernhsh, edw kai para poly kairo. Ayto deixnei oti h allh pleyra ensternizetai thn orqothta twn apocewn mas. Katanoei kai apodexetai thn epixeirhmatologia mas. To kaqestws sthn Kypro xarakthrizetai aparadekto. Anadeiknyetai h ajia twn diadikasiwn toy Dikasthrioy ths Xaghs, prokeimenoy na antimetwpizontai oi opoies diafores. Me thn apeilh xrhshs bias h me th xrhsh bias, den lynontai oi diafores. Gnwrizete oti emeis eimaste mia xwra poy pantote epiqymoyme na ginontai sebastoi oi kanones toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy kai na apofeygetai h prosfygh se diadikasies, oi opoies den exoyn opoiadhpote sxesh -qa elega oti briskontai se teleia antiqesh- me ton eirhniko dromo, poy prepei na akoloyqoyme se tetoies peristaseis kai bebaiws, h anadeijh toy kentrikoy, toy hgetikoy roloy ths Elladas, ws mias anaptygmenhs oikonomias sto xwro ths Notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs, mhn perimenete na mas prokalei lyph. Antikatroptizei mia pragmatikothta kai prosferei ikanopoihsh sthn kybernhsh mas, to oti o hgeths mias megalhs xwras, anagnwrizei ayth thn prospaqeia kai, an qelete, analambanei apo th pleyra ths kybernhshs toy, ths dikhs toy xwras, ena eidos desmeyshs na symbalei wste h Ellada na einai h xwra, h opoia qa leitoyrghsei ws pilotos twn ejelijewn sth Notioanatolikh Eyrwph. Ola ayta periexoyn mia qetikh ajiologhsh, opws ki an proseggisete aytes tis dhlwseis. Me ayth thn ennoia den mporei para na xarakthrizontai qetikes. Den prepei na sas diafeygoyn ta osa dhlwse o Prwqypoyrgos oles aytes tis hmeres. Emeis oi idioi qa bohqhsoyme toys eaytoys mas. Ayto einai to dogma ths dikhs mas kybernhshs. Emeis kanoyme mia prospaqeia na beltiwsoyme thn oikonomia mas, na anadeijoyme perissotero to dieqnh rolo ths xwras mas. Asfalws, einai kalodexoymenes oi opoies apoceis, oi opoies qeseis proerxontai apo tritoys poy briskontai se armonia me ayta ta opoia emeis yposthrizoyme h einai se qetikh kateyqynsh, oson afora thn prospaqeia poy kanoyme.

MIXAHL: Eiste eyxaristhmenoi ws kybernhsh apo ton tropo poy eqese ta eqnika qemata sto epishmo deipno o Proedros ths Dhmokratias;

REPPAS: O Proedros ths Dhmokratias ejefrase tis qeseis ths xwras. Den to kanei gia prwth fora. Me ayth thn ennoia, pisteyw oti oloi oi Ellhnes einai apolytws ikanopoihmenoi.

MIXAHL: Aisqaneste thn anagkh ws kybernhsh na zhthsete sygnwmh apo toys Aqhnaioys polites poy talaipwrhqhkan, logw twn yperbolikwn kai asynhqistwn gia thn kaqhmerinothta mas, metrwn asfaleias, gyrw apo ton k. Klinton;

REPPAS: Oi Aqhnaioi polites anagnwrizoyn sto synolo toys, pisteyw apolyta, th shmasia ayths ths episkechs. Poly perissotero twra poy oloklhrwqhke h episkech kai exoyme mia plhrh eikona toy pws ejelixqhke h episkech toy k. Klinton sthn Ellada, mporoyme na poyme oti oi Aqhnaioi polites apodexqhkan ayto to mikro, to opoio kostos, gia na dexqw oti yphrxe kai kostos, epeidh anatraphke to kaqhmerino toys programma, prokeimenoy na epiteyxqei to meizon. Kai me ayth thn ennoia pisteyw oti den yparxei opoiadhpote antirrhsh. Qymizw se osoys den exoyn ta sxetika stoixeia sth diaqesh toys, oti kata thn prohgoymenh episkech toy Proedroy Mpoys, eixan apagoreyqei oi synaqroiseis sto Lekanopedio ths Attikhs. Anatrejete, gia na exete mia poly kaqarh eikona, se efhmerides kai MME ekeinhs ths periodoy, twn antistoixwn energeiwn poy eginan apo tis armodies yphresies, prokeimenoy h episkech toy jenoy ajiwmatoyxoy na ejelixqei me ton kalytero tropo.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Meta apo ta osa pragmati qetika eipe o k. Klinton gia to Kypriako, pisteyete oti stis 3 Dekembrioy opoy qa diejaxqoyn oi ek toy syneggys synomilies, qa yparjei allagh klimatos apo pleyras Toyrkias; Dhladh, ayta poy eipe o Proedros Klinton qa exoyn ephreasei thn Toyrkia, wste na deijei ena allo proswpo stis 3 toy Dekembrh;

REPPAS: Ayto to opoio exei shmasia einai to oti arxizoyn oi syzhthseis. Oi syzhthseis aytes prepei na einai oysiastikes gia oles tis ptyxes toy kypriakoy qematos. Kai bebaiws qa prepei na synexistoyn, mexri na apodwsoyn sygkekrimenoys karpoys. Emeis anamenoyme sygkekrimena apotelesmata. Ayta menei na apodeixqoyn.

Exei megalh shmasia to oti h kypriakh kybernhsh einai panetoimh kai proserxetai se aytes tis syzhthseis me diaqesh na symbalei sthn ejeyresh lyshs sto problhma. To idio prepei na kanei kai h allh pleyra. Oloi, pisteyw, ayth thn wra anamenoyn mia qetikh stash apo ton k. Ntenktas. O k. Ntenktas epwmizetai thn eyqynh na antapokriqei sthn ypoxrewsh poy exei analabei apenanti ston OHE, wste na einai enas kalopistos syzhthths, o opoios me epoikodomhtiko tropo, apo th dikh toy pleyra, qa proseggisei ta qemata poy qa teqoyn se ayto to dialogo.

GARGALAKOS: Htan se gnwsh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs to keimeno ths omilias toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, prin ayto ekfwnhqei;

REPPAS: O Proedros ths Dhmokratias ejefrase tis qeseis ths xwras mas. Epanalambanw oti den to kanei gia prwth fora. Pantote ekfrazei tis qeseis ths xwras mas o Proedros ths Dhmokratias, ara den exei shmasia ayto to opoio eseis qesate. Gnwrizete poly kala pws yparxei taktikh epikoinwnia toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias me ton Prwqypoyrgo kai ta melh ths kybernhshs. O Proedros ths Dhmokratias gnwrizei arista ola ta qemata ths ejwterikhs kai ths eswterikhs politikhs kai einai o kalyteros khrykas twn ellhnikwn apocewn se ola ta dieqnh fora. Kai se kaqe eykairia, opws kai sth sygkekrimenh, me ton kalytero tropo anadeiknyei tis ellhnikes qeseis.

MIXAHL: Dhladh, to jerate h den to jerate;

REPPAS: Den qa syzhthsoyme me perissoteres leptomereies gia th synergasia ths kybernhshs me ton Proedro ths Ellhnikhs Dhmokratias. O Proedros ths Ellhnikhs Dhmokratias gnwrizei arista ola ta qemata kai den paraleipei, se kaqe eykairia, na anadeiknyei tis ellhnikes qeseis sto ejwteriko kai sto eswteriko. Ayto to gnwrizete, den egine gia prwth fora kai den qa einai oyte h teleytaia, giati o k. Stefanopoylos qa einai gia polla xronia akomh Proedros ths Ellhnikhs Dhmokratias.

MOYRTZHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ti synaisqhmata sas prokalese kai pws sxoliazete tis dyo diaforetikes eikones poy eidame sthn thleorash, dhladh: Ton Mpenini, o opoios einai eqnikh atrajion, na aspazetai ton Klinton kai ton Nt Alema kai apo thn allh, edw sthn Ellada, na exoyme ena "laodikeio" me ton k. Kazako; Kai pws sxoliazete mia syntetagmenh poreia 10.000 Italwn sth Flwrentia kai th dikh mas poreia opoy eginan ta ektropa ayta. Dhladh, ti synaisqhmata sas dhmioyrghsan aytes oi eikones;

REPPAS: Exoyme, kat epanalhch, milhsei gia to agaqo ths Dhmokratias to opoio prepei na ajiopoioyme, na to geyomaste, alla kai na to perifroyroyme. H eleyqeria ths ekfrashs twn apocewn, gia mia akomh fora, apodeixqhke oti sthn Ellada brisketai se ychlo epipedo. Apo thn allh kaythriazoyme, apodokimazoyme opoiadhpote eknomh energeia. Oi eknomes energeies, oi opoies ekdhlwqhkan sthn Aqhna, den timoyn th Dhmokratia mas, giati strefontai enantion ths dhmokratikhs nomimothtas. Opoio prosxhma kai an xrhsimopoihsei kapoios, prokeimenoy na probei se tetoies energeies, den mporei na tis dikaiologhsei. Einai akatanohtes, einai adikaiologhtes kai en pash periptwsei erxontai se plhrh antiqesh me tis arxes kai toys kanones toys opoioys epikaleitai gia na probei stis energeies aytes.

ARGYROS: Kai sto parelqon eixame desmeyseis apo ton k. Mpoys, otan eixe milhsei sthn ellhnikh Boylh. Ti sas kanei na eiste aisiodojoi oti qa isxysoyn oi desmeyseis toy Proedroy Klinton twra gia epilysh toy Kypriakoy. Kai ena deytero erwthma an isxyoyn osa anakoinwse, proxqes, o k. Xrysoxoidhs gia apozhmiwseis se aytoys poy epaqan zhmies apo ta epeisodia.

REPPAS: Oson afora toys epaggelmaties poy exoyn ypostei zhmies, exoyn ginei sxetikes dhlwseis apo thn kybernhsh. Pragmati, qa analhfqei prwtoboylia na katagrafoyn oi zhmies aytes, prokeimenoy na yparxei mia analogh oikonomikh enisxysh twn epaggelmatiwn. Ola ayta qa syzhthqoyn stis armodies yphresies.

Oson afora to prwto qema, egw den xrhsimopoihsa th lejh "aisiodojia". Antiqeta, eipa oti emeis oi idioi kaloymeqa na bohqhsoyme ton eayto mas. Einai diko mas qema. Apo thn allh, omws, otan diatypwnontai qeseis, apoceis apo hgetes jenwn xwrwn, oi opoies einai qetikes h apantoyn me poly paragwgiko tropo sta qemata poy emeis exoyme qesei, den antilambanomai giati ayto einai kiolas arnhtiko. Den antilambanomai ayth th diaxyth kaxypocia, h opoia kaqe fora poy diatypwnetai mia qetikh qesh, aytomatws proballei (h kaxypocia ayth). An diatypwqoyn arnhtikes qeseis, qa poyn kapoioi oti einai kalytera to oti ekfrazontai aytes oi arnhtikes qeseis, epeidh etsi den dhmioyrgeitai ena synnefo prosdokiwn, to opoio otan dialyqei kai pacoyn na yparxoyn prosdokies, qa mas odhghsei se apogohteysh; Einai orqoterh ayth h proseggish; Asfalws oxi. Emeis epidiwkoyme, se kaqe peristash, na diatypwnontai me qetiko tropo oi qeseis twn allwn xwrwn, oson afora ta qemata poy kai emeis qetoyme sto trapezi twn syzhthsewn. Allwste, sto plaisio twn syzhthsewn qeseis diatypwnontai, logoi ekfwnoyntai, dhlwseis ginontai. Kai otan to periexomeno olwn aytwn brisketai se armonia me tis dikes mas qeseis, ayto mporei na to xarakthrisei kaneis ws qetiko. Asfalws einai qetiko.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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