Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-07-26

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 26 Ioylioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Synedriase, opws gnwrizete, to Kybernhtiko Symboylio Ejwterikwn kai Amynas. Asxolhqhke me thn proodo twn ejoplismwn sto plaisio toy EMPAE kai elabe tis ejhs apofaseis:

* H prwth apofash afora thn promhqeia enos petrelaioforoy. Gia to qema ayto apofasisthke na epilegoyn ws texnikos symboylos, ws synergaths twn Nayphgeiwn Eleysinas, ta Italika Nayphgeia FINCANTIERI. H prosfora toys qewrhqhke ws h pleon ikanopoihtikh. Ara, se synergasia ta Nayphgeia Eleysinas me ta Nayphgeia FINCANTIERI ths Italias, kataskeyazoyn kai paradidoyn stis ellhnikes Enoples Dynameis ena petrelaioforo ploio.

* H deyterh apofash afora thn kataskeyh ypobryxiwn. To KYSEA, meta apo syzhthsh, apofasise na proxwrhsei h synergasia twn Nayphgeiwn Skaramagka me ta germanika nayphgeia HRW, sto Kielo, gia thn kataskeyh kai promhqeia triwn ypobryxiwn. H prosfora twn germanikwn Nayphgeiwn qewrhqhke h pio ikanopoihtikh. H arxikh apofash poy eixame labei, aforoyse thn promhqeia triwn ypobryxiwn, me dikaiwma gia ena akomh. To qema toy tetartoy ypobryxioy, to qema ths OPTION paramenei anoixto.

* To trito qema, to opoio syzhthsame sto plaisio toy ejoplistikoy programmatos, afora thn promhqeia triwn pyraylakatwn h kai kaloymenwn taxewn peripolikwn kateyqynomenwn blhmatwn. Oi prosfores, oi opoies exoyn ypoblhqei, kriqhkan isodynames. To qema ayto ejoysiodothqhke na to xeiristei o Prwqypoyrgos, lambanontas ypoch tis isodynames prosfores, meta apo synennohsh me toys armodioys ypoyrgoys, kata to epomeno stadio. Gia enhmerwsh sas sas lew oti aytes oi prosfores einai apo tria Nayphgeia: toy gallikoy CMN, toy agglikoy VOSPER kai toy germanikoy LURSSEN.

Sto plaisio ths syzhthshs kai prin apofasisoyme gia ta ploia, o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas eqese qema diaforwn allagwn gia thn epaggelmatikh ejelijh, kaqws kai to misqologio twn Ajiwmatikwn twn Enoplwn Dynamewn. Apofasisthke to qema ayto na apotelesei antikeimeno syzhthshs, metajy toy ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Amynas kai toy ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Oikonomias. Sth syzhthsh ayth exoyn logo, gia toys tomeis poy epopteyoyn, o ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs kai o ypoyrgos Emporikhs Naytilias.

Epishs, meta to telos ths syzhthshs gia ta ploia, egine mia enhmerwsh gia tis teleytaies ejelijeis enocei ths ayrianhs episkechs toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto Kossyfopedio kai ths episkechs thn erxomenh Paraskeyh sto Saragiebo. Akomh egine enhmerwsh gia thn enarjh toy ellhnotoyrkikoy dialogoy se yphresiako epipedo, gia to Kypriako kai tis eyrwtoyrkikes sxeseis. H syzhthsh ayth, epanalambanw, eixe enhmerwtiko xarakthra. Den elhfqhsan apofaseis.

Sthn arxh ths synedriashs o Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke, en taxei, se qemata metanasteytikhs politikhs, opoy oi arxikes epiloges mas pragmatopoioyntai. Efarmozontai, dhladh, oi epiloges poy aforoyn dieyqethseis sto kaqestws xorhghshs leykhs kai prasinhs kartas. Hdh, chfisthke thn prohgoymenh ebdomada sth Boylh h sxetikh diatajh. Epishs, proxwroyn oi diadikasies gia thn proslhch toy aparaithtoy proswpikoy. H synennohsh twn synarmodiwn ypoyrgwn exei fqasei sto teliko stadio kai prokeitai na lhfqoyn apofaseis. Ena trito shmeio toy qematos aytoy, einai h synergasia me tis kybernhseis twn geitonikwn xwrwn me tis opoies synoreyoyme. Stis synennohseis aytes exei proxwrhsei hdh h hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Dhmosias Tajhs. Gnwrizete oti o k. Xrysoxoidhs synanthqhke tis prohgoymenes hmeres me ton Albano omologo toy kai epikeitai synanthsh toy, thn erxomenh Paraskeyh, me ton omologo toy ths kybernhshs twn Skopiwn.

* Na sas enhmerwsw, telos, gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy ayths ths ebdomadas. Ayth thn wra, o Prwqypoyrgos dexetai thn Antiproedro ths kybernhshs ths Rwsias ka Balentina Matbienko. Opws gnwrizete, shmera, qa synanthqei stis 19.00, me ton proedro ths Neas Dhmokratias kai stis 19.45, me ton proedro toy DHKKI.

* Ayrio, exoyme thn episkech sto Oyrosebats, opoy o Prwqypoyrgos epikefalhs antiproswpeias, sthn opoia metexoyn o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas, o omilwn kai alloi paragontes, qa episkefqei thn ellhnikh eirhneytikh stratiwtikh dynamh.

* Thn Tetarth qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Antikeimeno syzhthshs qa einai oi kateyqynseis ths metanasteytikhs politikhs.

* Thn Paraskeyh, opws einai gnwsto, ginetai h dieqnhs diaskech, sto Saragiebo, gia thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn poy proekycan apo thn krish sth Gioygkoslabia, sto plaisio toy Symfwnoy Staqerothtas. Kai ekei o Prwqypoyrgos qa metabei epikefalhs antiproswpeias.

Ayta apo meroys moy. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Shmera, arxise o ellhnotoyrkikos dialogos sthn Agkyra. Qelw na rwthsw, loipon, h kybernhsh apo olh ayth th diadikasia, h opoia ap` oti jeroyme qa teleiwsei se prwth fash, thn erxomenh Paraskeyh, ti prosdoka, ti perimenei;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola h diadikasia ayth einai mia dyskolh diadikasia, me dedomenes tis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis, etsi opws tis gnwrizoyme oloi mexri twra. Emeis epiqymoyme na beltiwqoyn oi ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis. Gia na epiteyxqei ayto xreiazetai ypomonh kai epimonh. H prospaqeia ayth prepei na exei baqos xronoy. Qa symbaloyme wste na epityxei toys skopoys ths ayth h prospaqeia. Bebaiws, ayto den ejartatai mono apo emas. Ta qemata, ta opoia qa syzhthqoyn ayto to dihmero, aforoyn, opws gnwrizete, thn oikonomikh synergasia, to periballon kai ton toyrismo. Einai, opws exoyn apoklhqei qemata "xamhlhs" politikhs. Qa diereynhsoyme tis proqeseis ths Toyrkias. Prepei na sas pw, fer` eipein -kai menw mono se ena paradeigma- oti yparxoyn epixeirhmatikes synergasies, oikonomikes antallages, alla den yparxoyn symfwnies, metajy Elladas kai Toyrkias, ston tomea ayto, opws yparxoyn analoges symfwnies ths Elladas me alles xwres. P. x., den yparxei symfwnia gia thn apofygh diplhs forologias. Ayta ta eidika qemata mporei na apotelesoyn antikeimeno syzhthshs sto plaisio aytoy toy dialogoy. Kai bebaiws, o dialogos aytos qa dwsei th dynatothta na diereynhqoyn genikotera oi proqeseis ths Toyrkias, prokeimenoy na gnwrizoyme pws ekeinh epiqymei -an epiqymei- na proxwrhsoyme sth beltiwsh twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn. H diadikasia ayth einai epiponh. Qa prepei na eimaste eyeliktoi, eyfyeis, alla kai ypeyqynoi kai cyxraimoi, legontas oti epiqymoyme na exoyme amesa apotelesmata apo th syzhthsh twn sygkekrimenwn qematwn. Den paraleipoyme, ejalloy, na epishmanoyme th qetikh antidrash poy qa prokycei, genikotera, gia to klima twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn, an stefqoyn me epityxia ayta ta prwta bhmata toy yphresiakoy ellhnotoyrkikoy dialogoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, lete oti epiqymeite th beltiwsh twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn. Pisteyete oti to idio epiqymei kai h Toyrkia;

REPPAS: Polla einai ekeina ta stoixeia poy odhgoyn se teleiws diaforetika symperasmata. Analoga me ti stoixeia xrhsimopoiei o kaqenas, mporei na bgalei ena sygkekrimeno symperasma. Gnwrizete poia einai h stash ths Toyrkias, idiaiterws thn teleytaia periodo, opoy arketes proklhseis ekdhlwqhkan apo meroys ths. Apo thn allh, h anagkh mias epikoinwnias pisteyoyme oti, pleon, einai xrhsimh. Den qa prepei emeis na parameinoyme se akinhsia, se aixmalwsia twn opoiwn epilogwn tritwn. Qa prepei emeis na exoyme thn prwtoboylia twn kinhsewn. Den qa xarisoyme se alloys ayto to "oplo" ths prospaqeias gia synennohsh. Qa to diekdikhsoyme kai qa to krathsoyme gia logariasmo mas. Emeis epiqymoyme na epityxei ayto to egxeirhma. Exoyme apo thn arxh pei oti opoiadhpote arnhtikh ejelijh -epeidh akribws h prospaqeia isws yponomeyqei apo alles energeies- qa barynei thn Toyrkia. Kai ayth qa prepei na analabei ej` oloklhroy to politiko kai diplwmatiko kostos mias arnhtikhs ejelijhs, an yparjei tetoia ejelijh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Me parabaseis kai parabiaseis kai me tis dhlwseis toy Toyrkoy ypoyrgoy sthn Komothnh, mporei na ginei dialogos;

REPPAS: Ayth akribws einai h eyqynh ths Toyrkias, h opoia epibarynei to klima sto opoio jekina ayth h apopeira gia synennohsh metajy twn dyo xwrwn. Pisteyoyme, en toytois, oti yparxei periqwrio se poly sygkekrimena qemata (poy shmeiwnw -kai to shmeiwnw me emfash- oti den aforoyn to kaqestws sto Aigaio, den aforoyn syzhthseis gia kyriarxika dikaiwmata kai thn askhsh toys) oi dyo xwres na exoyn idies apoceis kai na epidiwkoyn synergasia gia na wfelhqoyn kai oi dyo xwres kai oi dyo laoi. Tetoia einai ta qemata oikonomikhs synergasias, ta qemata synergasias ston Toyrismo, ta opoia syzhtoyntai twra. Apo ekei kai pera, oi dhlwseis twn Toyrkwn ajiwmatoyxwn, asfalws, den symballoyn sthn proodo ayths ths synennohshs kai katagrafontai. Den qa prepei, omws, kai emeis na eimaste esaei, omhroi, aixmalwtoi, dhlwsewn h kinhsewn, paragontwn kai kyklwn poy qa hqelan, isws, apo th dikh toys pleyra, oi ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis na parameinoyn se ena epipedo cyxrothtas, pragma to opoio einai, se teleytaia analysh, se baros twn dyo xwrwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, dinete, omws, thn entypwsh oti h Ellada sernetai s` ayton ton dialogo.

REPPAS: H Ellada, oxi mono den syretai s` ayto to dialogo, alla einai xwra ths E. E. kai toy NATO, poy kanei politikh arxwn. Sto plaisio aytwn twn arxwn, proserxetai kai pairnei meros s` ayto to dialogo. H ejelijh toy dialogoy qa apodeijei oti pragmati h Ellada sebetai aytes tis arxes kai oi protaseis poy kanei einai epoikodomhtikes, epeidh kai sthn prajh epiqymei na beltiwqoyn oi ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis. Apomenei sthn Toyrkia na apodeijei to idio.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yparxei aithma ths Agkyras gia thn katarghsh twn pediwn bolhs sto Aigaio, opws anaferetai, shmera, ston Typo; Yparxei kati tetoio;

REPPAS: Ta pedia bolhs, gnwrizete poly kala, oti xrhsimopoioyntai kai apo to ellhniko Naytiko, apo tis ellhnikes Enoples Dynameis. Yparxoyn kai qa synexisoyn na yparxoyn, opws yparxoyn analoges egkatastaseis se oles tis xwres toy kosmoy, prokeimenoy na ekpaideyontai oi Enoples Dynameis twn xwrwn aytwn. Den yparxei tetoio qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sto KYSEA, sas apasxolhse kaqoloy h energeia, h prwtoboylia twn triwn Moysoylmanwn boyleytwn;

REPPAS: Entelws parenqetika, egine mia anafora sto qema ayto. Eipwqhke oti exei ekdoqei sxetikh kybernhtikh anakoinwsh -kai anaferomai sth dhlwsh poy ekana to brady ths Paraskeyhs- h opoia ekfrazei th qesh ths kybernhshs kai mas kalyptei oloys.

TRILIKHS: Se periptwsh poy h Agkyra, kata th diarkeia toy dialogoy, epanalabei paromoies proklhtikes kinhseis, exei apofasisei h kybernhsh me poion tropo qa antidrasei, an gia paradeigma qa aposyrei toys diplwmates poy metexoyn sto dialogo;

REPPAS: Einai poly sobaro to qema ayto. Eimaste molis sthn arxh toy dialogoy. Antilambaneste poses dyskolies exei ayto to egxeirhma kai poses periplokes isws kapoioi epidiwjoyn na dhmioyrghqoyn, kaqws qa ejelissetai ayth h prospaqeia. Exw th gnwmh oti den prepei na eimaste manteis kakwn, den qa prepei na kanoyme tetoies ypoqeseis, logw akribws ths krisimothtas toy qematos poy syzhtoyme. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws, ola exoyn tis epiptwseis toys, ola exoyn to baros toys kai ola osa ginontai prosmetroyntai, analogws, qetika h arnhtika, se aytoys oi opoioi ta empneontai, ta sxediazoyn, ta ekteloyn.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Gia to dialogo poy jekinhse, ti eipwqhke sto KYSEA; Mporeite na mas dwsete kapoia enhmerwsh;

REPPAS: Sas eipa, se genikes grammes, oti o dialogos aytos afora poly sygkekrimena qemata, "xamhlhs politikhs". Yparxoyn qemata kai tomeis, opoy metajy Elladas kai Toyrkias den yparxoyn symfwnies, se antiqesh me oti symbainei me oles tis alles xwres, me tis opoies h Ellada exei dimereis sxeseis. Einai logiko, loipon, h Ellada na epidiwkei th synach tetoiwn symfwniwn, pragma to opoio qa apobei pros to symferon kai twn dyo xwrwn kai twn dyo lawn. Ayto einai to nohma ayths ths prospaqeias. Kai bebaiws, efoson ejelixqei qetika h prospaqeia ayth, qa epidrasei, epanalambanw, qetika sto klima twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn. Qa dhmioyrghqei ena allo periballon, pragma poly qetiko.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Hqela na rwthsw, an egine sxetikh syzhthsh.

REPPAS: Egine mono enhmerwsh apo ton ypoyrgo Anaplhtwth Ejwterikwn k. Kranidiwth. O k. Papandreoy den symmeteixe sth shmerinh synedriash, dedomenoy oti eixe ypoxrewsh ektos Aqhnwn, sthn Kerkyra. To shmeiwnw gia na eiste enhmeroi.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Gia to qema twn sxesewn E. E. -Toyrkias, yparxei kapoia ejelijh h opoia na apasxolhse, shmera, to KYSEA;

REPPAS: Oi syzhthseis poy qa ginoyn ayto to ejamhno sto plaisio ths E. E. ypo th filandikh proedria, metajy twn allwn, perilambanoyn kai to qema ths dieyrynshs ths E. E. H Toyrkia exei ekdhlwsei, entonws, endiaferon na labei to xrisma ths ypochfias xwras. Emeis, exoyme qesei tis proypoqeseis, oi opoies, opws kai gia alles xwres, prepei na isxyoyn kai gia thn Toyrkia, prokeimenoy na epityxei na xarakthristei ws ypochfia pros entajh xwra. Paramenoyme s` ayth thn politikh. Yparxoyn oi Synodoi Koryfhs toy Loyjemboyrgoy kai toy Karntif, oi opoies einai apolytws safeis kai analytikes gia to pws mporoyn na ejelixqoyn kai na anaptyxqoyn oi eyrwtoyrkikes sxeseis. Ayth h bash, ayto to plaisio politikhs, ejakoloyqei na isxyei. Kai bebaiws, prepei na lhfqei ypoch apo thn Toyrkia oti kinhseis ths, oi opoies exoyn peristasiako xarakthra, prokeimenoy na dwsoyn mia diaforetikh eikona gia thn politikh poy akoloyqei, einai kinhseis oi opoies eykola ginetai antilhpto oti, an den antapokrinontai se pragmatikh boylhsh ths Agkyras, gia thn askhsh mias allhs politikhs, den einai dynaton para na peftoyn sto keno. Den einai, dhladh, dynaton peristasiaka, gia periodo ligwn mhnwn, h Toyrkia na epidiwjei na paroysiastei me ena allo proswpo politikhs, xwris na pisteyei s` ayth thn allh politikh, mono kai mono gia na dhmioyrghsei ena kalytero klima ypodoxhs ths sthn E. E., afoy gnwrizei oti oi syzhthseis gia th dieyrynsh ths E. E. briskontai se ejelijh ayth thn periodo.

KARGOYDH: To antikeimeno ths synanthshs toy Prwqypoyrgoy me thn antiproedro ths kybernhshs ths Rwsias;

REPPAS: Oi dimereis sxeseis. H ka Matbienko brisketai sthn Aqhna, aytes tis hmeres. Zhthse na ginei dekth apo ton Prwqypoyrgo. Ginetai dekth gia na syzhthqoyn dimerh qemata, ta opoia aforoyn eite thn politikh, eite thn oikonomikh kai emporikh synergasia.

KARGOYDH: Kai gia ton agwgo Mpoyrgkas-Alejandroypolhs;

REPPAS: Asfalws, kai ayto einai ena qema. Gnwrizete poly kala oti promhqeyomaste apo th Rwsia fysiko aerio, oti yparxei anoixto to qema toy petrelaiagwgoy. Gnwrizete, epishs, oti kata thn prosfath krish sth Gioygkoslabia, yphrxe taktikh, pyknotath epikoinwnia twn dyo kybernhsewn, prokeimenoy apo koinoy na antimetwpisoyme sxetika qemata. Ara, loipon, exei oysiastiko periexomeno ayth h synanthsh.

KARGOYDH: Epomenws, anamenetai na syzhthqei kai to xqesino epeisodio ths sfaghs 14 Serbwn sto Kossyfopedio...

REPPAS: Den mporw na gnwrizw me apolytes leptomereies to ti qa syzhthqei. Den exei diatypwqei kapoia atzenta. Gnwrizw oti qa syzhthsoyn qemata politikhs kai oikonomikhs synergasias dimeroys kai dieqnoys endiaferontos.

TRILIKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, hqela na epanelqw sto qema toy ellhnotoyrkikoy dialogoy. O k. Papandreoy, milwntas se kapoio staqmo to prwi, den apekleise to endexomeno na apopeiraqoyn oi Toyrkoi na feroyn sto dialogo qemata eqnikhs kyriarxias. Ti odhgies exei labei gia thn periptwsh ayth h ellhnikh antiproswpeia;

REPPAS: Oti tetoioy eidoys qemata den mporei na apotelesoyn antikeimeno syzhthshs sto plaisio aytoy toy dialogoy. Synistoyn stoixeia enos politikoy dialogoy ston opoio den prokeitai na proxwrhsei h Ellada, efoson o dialogos aytos afora diapragmateysh kyriarxikwn dikaiwmatwn. Ta kyriarxika dikaiwmata mas einai adiapragmateyta. Qa ta askoyme symfwna me tis epiloges mas, me gnwmona pantote to eqniko symferon. Den tiqentai se dialogo. Den tiqentai se opoiasdhpote morfhs dialogo.

TRILIKHS: Exoyme eikona, an teqhke kapoio tetoio zhthma, sth synanthsh shmera;

REPPAS: Exoyn jekinhsei oi syzhthseis. Den exoyme enhmerwsh, den exoyme eikona, kata th dikh sas ekfrash, gia to pws ejelissontai mexri twra.

Sas eyxaristw.

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