Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-07-14

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 14 Ioylioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KARGOYDH: H ellhnikh kybernhsh pws apotima thn episkech toy k. Koen sth xwra mas;

REPPAS: Ws poly qetikh, epeidh bohqa sthn kalyterh gnwsh twn qesewn ths kaqe kybernhshs. Kai bebaiws, apodeiknyei, meta thn prosfath krish sto Kossyfopedio, oti oi dyo kybernhseis synexizoyn, se ena koino plaisio, na antimetwpizoyn yfistamena problhmata sthn eyryterh perioxh.

MHLAKAS: O k. Koen se kapoies dhlwseis poy ekane eipe oti einai ikanopohmenos giati h ellhnikh kybernhsh exei desmeyqei na antimetwpisei thn tromokratia. H prwth erwthsh einai: Poies einai oi desmeyseis ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs gia thn antimetwpish ths tromokratias; Kai h deyterh erwthsh einai sxetikh me to dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas "TO BHMA", shmera. To prwtoselido dhmosieyma milaei gia protaseis toy FBI, oktw shmeiwn malista, oi opoies exoyn paradoqei sto ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs. To epibebaiwnete h to diaceydete;

REPPAS: Oson afora thn prwth erwthsh sas: Einai dedomenh kai den diatypwnetai gia prwth fora h qesh mas, h isxyrh boylhsh mas na antimetwpisoyme kai na patajoyme thn tromokratia. Sthn kateyqynsh ayth ergazetai h armodia ellhnikh yphresia, se synergasia me eidikoys empeirognwmones antistoixwn yphresiwn allwn kratwn. H kalyterh eggyhsh, loipon, poy prosferoyme einai h sqenarh stash mas na antimetwpisoyme ayto to fainomeno, sto plaisio mias dieqnoys synergasias, prokeimenoy na exoyme pio ikanopoihtika apotelesmata.

Oson afora th deyterh erwthsh sas: Einai diarkhs h epikoinwnia twn armodiwn ellhnikwn yphresiwn me jenoys empeirognwmones twn antistoixwn yphresiwn, opws, en prokeimenw, einai oi empeirognwmones toy FBI sthn Aqhna. Sto plaisio ayths ths epikoinwnias, antallassontai problhmatismoi, dinontai eggrafa, ta opoia periexoyn idees kai protaseis gia synafh qemata. Tetoia eggrafa exoyn diakinhqei, anepishma eggrafa -NON PAPERS, opws onomazontai- ta opoia periexoyn diafores skeceis. Me ayth thn ennoia, mporei na pei kaneis oti diatypwnontai aytes oi idees, kata kairoys, alla den qa prepei na syndeqoyn xronika me thn episkech toy jenoy ajiwmatoyxoy k. Sien, tis epomenes hmeres sthn Aqhna. Einai kati to opoio anagetai sto parelqon kai exei sxesh me th stenh synergasia, thn epikoinwnia poy yparxei metajy twn armodiwn yphresiwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati yparxei toso megalh kinhtikothta gyrw apo thn tromokratia tis teleytaies hmeres; Yparxei kapoio problhma edw;

REPPAS: Den yparxei kamia kinhtikothta. Gnwrizete poly kala pws h Ellada exei plhgei apo ayto to fainomeno, opws kai alles xwres. H prospaqeia poy kanoyme einai synexhs. Qa prepei na exoyme kalytera apotelesmata. Ayto epidiwkoyme, ayto epiqymoyme, alla einai dedomenh h boylhsh mas -kai eimaste ametakinhtoi se ayth th qesh- na antimetwpisoyme ayto to fainomeno. Den yparxei tipota allo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Omws h k. Olmprait milaei gia tromokratia sthn Ellada, o k. Koen leei gia th tromokratia, erxetai edw o k. Sien. Ton teleytaio kairo ginetai ayto. Giati;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti to qema ayto, metajy twn allwn, syzhthqhke kata thn episkech Ellhnwn ypoyrgwn stis HPA, edw kai arketoys mhnes. Epikeitai episkech toy ypoyrgoy Dhmosias Tajhs ths xwras mas, ton erxomeno Septembrio, stis HPA. Kapoioi qewroyn oti ayto to qema exei th qesh toy sthn atzenta qematwn poy syzhtoyntai me thn Ellada. Ayto to problhma exei dieqnh diastash. To antimetwpizoyn polles xwres. Emeis, opws kai oi yphresies twn allwn xwrwn, kataballoyme kaqe prospaqeia na to antimetwpisoyme kai na to ejaleicoyme.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ta oktw shmeia ta dexomaste emeis;

REPPAS: Den exei diatypwqei tetoio eggrafo, epishmo, prokeimenoy na doqei apanthsh apo thn ellhnikh pleyra. Eipa oti einai idees, problhmatismoi, protaseis, oi opoies diatypwnontai eite proforika, eite mesw NON PAPER, prokeimenoy na apotelesoyn antikeimeno syzhthshs. Ola ayta apoteloyn antikeimeno syzhthshs, edw kai para poly kairo. Den einai kainoyrgio ayto to fainomeno kai en pash periptwsei, gnwrizete poly kala oti tetoioy eidoys synergasies exoyn, peran ths diarkeias, kai mia exemyqeia poy tis diakrinei. Kai prepei na perifroyrhsoyme ayth th diadikasia.

MIXAHL: Qa hqela na rwthsw an kata thn apoch ths kybernhshs yparxei symptwsh apocewn Elladas - HPA gia to pws prepei na arxisei kai na ejelixqei h diadikasia anoikodomhshs twn Balkaniwn meta th gioygkoslabikh krish.

REPPAS: Exei kanei dhmosiws dhlwseis o k. Koen, tis opoies gnwrizete. O k. Koen xarakthrise th Qessalonikh "limani ths elpidas". Eipe oti h Qessalonikh mporei na einai to epikentro ths prospaqeias gia thn anasygkrothsh ths eyryterhs perioxhs. H notianatolikh Eyrwph, ta Balkania sto synolo toys, xreiazontai thn epideijh endiaferontos apo th Dieqnh Koinothta, prokeimenoy na mpoyn ston 21o aiwna me poly kalyteres proypoqeseis. Na anasygkrothqoyn oikonomika, na apokthsoyn sygxronoys koinoboyleytikoys, dhmokratikoys qesmoys kai bebaiws, na dexontai thn arwgh se qemata anqrwpistika kai peran aytoy toy xronikoy orioy, sto opoio termatisthke h polemikh krish sto Kossyfopedio. Oi anagkes einai megales kai den noeitai sthn Eyrwph na yparxei mia perioxh me tosh reystothta kai astaqeia.

Symfwnoyme, loipon, oti xreiazetai epideijh entonoy endiaferontos me thn analhch sygkekrimenwn prwtoboyliwn. S` ayto symfwnoyme.

MIXAHL: Se ti den symfwneite;

REPPAS: S` ayto symfwnoyme. Twra apo kei kai pera den exoyme syzhthsei me apolytes leptomereies gia to pws qa ejelixqei ayth h politikh prosforas bohqeias h yposthrijhs, wste na gnwrizoyme an diapistwnetai kai apoklish sthn efarmogh ayths ths politikhs.

MIXAHL: Diapistwnetai apoklish kai qa sas pw me poio tropo. An h kybernhsh qewrei oti den einai, as to pei. Kaq` olh th diarkeia twn natoikwn bombardismwn sth Gioygkoslabia, h Ellada eixe parei mia safh qesh, oti aytos o tropos den epilyei to problhma sto Kossyfopedio. Epipleon, oi sxeseis Aqhnwn-Beligradioy htan se ena kalo shmeio, kaq` olh th diarkeia ths krishs. Antiqetws, oi sxeseis Oyasigkton-Beligradioy kai genikws allwn htan xalia, ews den yphrxan. Ara, pws eseis lete oti symfwneite gia to ayjhmeno endiaferon me toys Amerikanoys, otan oi Amerikanoi lene oti gia na ginei anoikodomhsh, prepei na allajei h katastash sth Serbia, me thn opoia exoyme kales sxeseis emeis.

REPPAS: Prwt` ap` ola o dieqnhs paragwn sto synolo toy, oloi oi foreis, oloi oi Organismoi exoyn epishmanei thn anagkh na prosferqei bohqeia sta Balkania gia na anasygkrothqei h perioxh. Kai h kybernhsh twn HPA. Oydeis exei diaforetikh qesh.

Epanalambanw oti h efarmogh ayths ths politikhs stis leptomereies ths, asfalws prepei na syzhthqei. Den exoyn oloklhrwqei oi syzhthseis aytes, einai se ejelijh. Ekei mporei na diapistwqoyn diaforetikes proseggiseis. Ayto to opoio exei shmasia einai h symfwnia, h taytish, h symptwsh sth basikh arxh. Kai h basikh arxh einai na bohqhqei ayth h perioxh ths Eyrwphs, na anasygkrothqei, to syntomotero dynato, me prwtoboylies se polla epipeda.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, to synolo shmera toy apogeymatinoy Typoy exei enan titlo, ton idio peripoy: "Sygxysh sthn Aqhna gia th diasyndesh Kypriakoy kai eyrwtoyrkikwn sxesewn". Ayth h sygxysh lene ta keimena, dhmioyrghqhke me th gnwsth synenteyjh Kranidiwth sto Rwyter, me tis xqesines sxetikes dikes sas dhlwseis kai en synexeia tis dhlwseis toy k. Kasoylidh. Yparxei ontws sygxysh; Den prepei na jekaqarisei to topio;

REPPAS: Prwt` ap` ola den yparxei kamia sygxysh. Ekana dhlwseis xqes to meshmeri, apantwntas se sxetikes erwthseis.

Xqes to apogeyma, stis Bryjelles, o k. Kranidiwths paraxwrhse synenteyjh gia synafh qemata. Pisteyw oti meta kai apo aytes tis dhlwseis, tis apanthseis, den dikaiologeitai aytos o xarakthrismos. Moy kanei kai mena entypwsh.

Einai safes oti h Ellada ekfrazetai apo tis qeseis ths E. E. oson afora tis eyrwtoyrkikes sxeseis. Einai safes, epishs, oti isxyoyn gia thn Toyrkia oi proypoqeseis kai oi oroi poy isxyoyn gia kaqe xwra poy endiaferetai na kerdisei to xarakthrismo ths ypochfias pros entajh sthn E. E. xwras kai en synexeia thn entajh ths ws melos sthn E. E. Einai akomh safes oti h proodos gia thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy problhmatos, opws epishs h proodos oson afora thn entajiakh diadikasia ths Kyproy sthn E. E., apoteloyn poly shmantikoys paragontes gia mas. To Kypriako einai gia emas meizon eqniko zhthma. Oi ejelijeis, loipon, s` ayto to zhthma qa ephreasoyn tis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis kai bebaiws qa exoyn thn eyergetikh epidrash toys kai stis eyrwtoyrkikes sxeseis. Ayta einai gnwsta, exoyn diatypwqei kat` epanalhch. Den qa prepei, toylaxiston gia tetoia qemata, na dinontai lanqasmenes ermhneies se topoqethseis, oi opoies bebaiws ginontai me aformh sygkekrimena erwthmata, alla pantote periexoyn -para tis diaforetikes diatypwseis poy isws xrhsimopoioyntai- thn idia oysia. Periexoyn thn idia paradoxh, thn idia qesh, gia to pws qa ejelixqei h sxesh ths Toyrkias me thn E. E. sto baqmo poy afora emas kai parembainoyme s` ayth thn ejelijh.

PARIS: Eipate oti h Ellada ekfrazetai, oson afora tis sxeseis ths Toyrkias me thn E. E., mesa apo thn E. E. O k. Kranidiwths sth synenteyjh thn opoia edwse sto praktoreio Rwyter, mas leei to ejhs: Oti yparxoyn oi proypoqeseis tis opoies exei qesei h E. E. An par` ola ayta h E. E., an qelei mia stenoterh sxesh me thn Toyrkia, h Ellada qelei tis dyo gnwstes eggyhseis, tis opoies den xreiazetai na tis epanalabw. Ayto to pragma stekei kai an oi alloi etairoi mas sthn E. E. qelhsoyn na parablecoyn ta stantar, ta opoia exoyn teqei mexri twra kai ta stantar ta opoia teqhkan sto Loyjemboyrgo, emeis qa qesoyme kapoio beto h qa poyme oti entajei proxwrame, alla na akoloyqhqoyn oi dyo proypoqeseis tis opoies exei qesei o k. Kranidiwths;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola h syzhthsh ayth gia th dieyrynsh ths E. E. qa ginei sth Synodo Koryfhs meta apo ejh mhnes, ton erxomeno Dekembrio. Gnwrizete poly kala oti h qesh ths E. E. gia tis eyrwtoyrkikes sxeseis, opws diatypwqhke meta tis Synodoys Koryfhs sto Loyjemboyrgo kai sto Karntif, ekfrazei to synolo ths E. E. kai emas bebaiws. Den allazei se tipota h qesh ayth ths E. E. Apo kei kai pera, bebaiws otan miloyme gia shmantika qemata, opws einai to Kypriako, exoyme ena idiaitero endiaferon na epityxoyme thn aproskopth ejelijh twn entajiakwn diadikasiwn gia thn Kypro. Kai bebaiws na symbaloyme me kaqe tropo sthn anazhthsh, epiteloys, lyshs sto kypriako problhma poy epi para polla xronia brisketai se telma. Einai poly prowro na poyme otidhpote allo. Einai poly safhs h qesh poy exoyme diatypwsei toso me tis dhlwseis poy ekana egw, oso kai to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn kai sygkekrimena o k. Kranidiwths, me th synenteyjh poy paraxwrhse xqes, sthn apanthsh toy opoioy sas parapempw (periexetai sth selida 5 toy apomagnhtofwnhmenoy keimenoy poy exei dianemhqei). H qesh ths kybernhshs paramenei ayth poy gnwrizete. Den allazei tipota ws pros to shmeio ayto.

Sas eyxaristw.

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