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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 13 Ioylioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Qa moy epitrecete, eisagwgikws na kanw ena sxolio gia to shmerino dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas "Aqhnaikh". H efhmerida epi dyo hmeres proballei ws kentriko qema sthn prwth selida, ayto to opoio kai xqes syzhthsame, me aformh erwthsh synadelfoy sas. Lypoymai, giati, enw qewrei to qema ayto toso shmantiko kai krisimo, wste na to probalei ws kentriko qema sthn prwth selida epi dyo hmeres, apefyge na dhmosieysei thn plhrh apanthsh poy edwsa xqes gia to qema poy eteqh. Den th dhmosieyei. Prokeitai gia antideontologikh aqliothta, h opoia qa prepei na apasxolhsei kai thn ESHEA kapoia stigmh, h opoia, bebaiws, exei sobara qemata me ta opoia katapianetai, alla kai ayta exoyn thn krisimothta kai th shmasia toys.

Apo ekei kai pera, prepei na pw oti to xqesino dhmosieyma einai pantelws anypostato kai ceydes. Den antapokrinetai sthn alhqeia. Ola ta symperasmata sta opoia exei odhghqei o syntakths kai h efhmerida, ofeilontai, profanws, sth sygxysh h opoia epikrathse metajy toy ti einai eqnikos enaerios xwros kai toy ti einai FIR.

H efhmerida prospaqhse na anabibasei, se epipedo orologias, th frash "legomena Meikta FIR", thn opoia xrhsimopoihsa kai h lejh "legomena" den xrhsimopoihqhke tyxaia. Den dhmosieyei tipota allo apo thn apanthsh moy, shmera, para mono aytes tis lejeis. Kai me aytes tis lejeis odhgeitai sto symperasma, oti yparxei "Kolegia Elladas kai Toyrkias, pragma to opoio omologei h kybernhsh". An ayto einai sobarh dhmosiografia, qa moy epitrecete na pw oti egw adynatw na briskomai se ena dialogo eyqynhs kai oysias mazi sas, katw apo aytes tis synqhkes.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KARAMPASHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, epiteqhkate me megalh sfodrothta sthn efhmerida...

REPPAS: Poia "sfodrothta"; Sto diko sas dhmosieyma, me ayta ta opoia grafete, oysiastika lete oti omologw egw kai h kybernhsh.

KARAMPASHS: Den ypografw to dhmosieyma.

REPPAS: To yioqeteite, fantazomai, ektos an kratate apostaseis.

KARAMPASHS: Afhste to qema twn apostasewn....

REPPAS: Sas parakalw.

KARAMPASHS: Alla, gia prwth fora akoysame th qewria toy "meiktoy FIR". Kat` arxhn yparxei apanthsh ths YPA, h opoia einai kataptysth kai eirwnikotath ki ayth qa eprepe na cejete. Twra, apo ekei kai pera, epi ths oysias, pragmatika qa hqela na mas peite, apo pote h Ellada kai h Toyrkia exei "meikto FIR". Giati, prwth fora, einai kainofanhs o oros. Twra, an einai "legomeno" h an den einai "legomeno", as mas to ejhghsete. Prwton, ayto kai qa synexisoyme.

REPPAS: Sthn apanthsh poy edwsa, xqes, kai thn opoia den dhmosieyei h efhmerida "Aqhnaikh" eipa oti...

KARAMPASHS: Qa th dhmosieysoyme, afoy qewreite oti...

REPPAS:... ola ayta ginontai, afoy doqoyn oi sxetikes adeies apo tis armodies yphresies poy h kaqe mia elegxei to antistoixo FIR. Poy shmainei, oti gia kaqe FIR, yparxei mia yphresia. Einai aytonohto ayto, loipon, meta thn apanthsh poy edwsa, afoy diesteila ton eqniko xwro, o opoios den xrhsimopoihqhke, oyte paraxwrhqhke gia gymnasia toyrkika apo to FIR Aqhnwn, to opoio, asfalws, elegxei h armodia ellhnikh yphresia. Ola ayta jekinoyn apo to oti -opws anaferei kai sthn anakoinwsh ths h YPA- syxna ta gymnasia ektylissontai se perissotera toy enos FIR, gia ta opoia diaforetikes yphresies exoyn armodiothta. Ayto einai, akribws, to opoio kai egw dhlwsa, xqes, me aytes tis lejeis, oi opoies den eprepe kat` ayton ton kakopisto, kakoboylo tropo na ermhneytoyn, san na prokeitai gia orologia. Asfalws, den yparxei kati tetoio. Kai lypoymai, giati xrhsimopoieite kapoioys, twn opoiwn th gnwmh epikaleiste, xwris profanws na exete qesei ypoch toys to synolo twn dhlwsewn moy, pragma to opoio prepei na kanete shmera, k. Karampash. Na dhmosieyete olh thn apanthsh. Otan qewreite oti to qema ayto einai shmantiko, wste na xrewnete se emena kai thn kybernhsh "omologia synergasias", "Kolegias", opws xarakthristika lete, Elladas-Toyrkias sto Aigaio, fantazomai oti qa exete thn eyaisqhsia na dhmosieysete olh thn apanthsh.

KARAMPASHS: Na dexqoyme oti h apanthsh einai ayth thn opoia dinete, shmera.

REPPAS: Einai h apanthsh poy edwsa, xqes, thn opoia epanalambanw aytoysia. Egw epanalambanw ayth thn apanthsh, giati pisteyw oti eiste oloi arketa kalopistoi. Den einai tyxaio, allwste, oti ektos ths dikhs sas efhmeridas, oi alloi synadelfoi sas den antelhfqhsan thn apanthsh moy, etsi opws mono h "Aqhnaikh" thn antelhfqh. Ti shmainei ayto; Oti oi alles efhmerides h oi synadelfoi sas einai meiwmenhs eqnikhs eyaisqhsias polites;

KARAMPASHS: Asfalws, oxi.

REPPAS: Shmainei oti ayto to opoio eipa, den dhmioyrgei thn entypwsh sthn opoia odhghqhkate eseis peri "Kolegias Elladas kai Toyrkias sto Aigaio, me omologia ths kybernhshs".

KARAMPASHS: Ayto einai diko sas symperasma. Mporeite na mas ejhghsete ti egine me tis askhseis;

REPPAS: Exei apanthsei h YPA. H YPA, einai, ana pasa stigmh, se synennohsh me tis armodies yphresies twn allwn ypoyrgeiwn, opws to Geniko Epiteleio Aeroporias, en prokeimenw, kai oi armodies yphresies toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn. Exei dwsei egkairws, entos twn proqesmiwn, tis analoges apanthseis se notam toyrkikes, oi opoies diatypwnontai. Ta gymnasia diejhxqhsan kai entos toy FIR Aqhnwn, oxi pantws entos toy eqnikoy, ellhnikoy enaerioy xwroy, opws ceydws grafei h efhmerida, odhgoymenh kakws sto symperasma oti ekxwreitai eqnikos xwros kai ara, qigontai eqnika symferonta kai meiwnontai kyriarxika dikaiwmata.

KARAMPASHS: Pote den grafthke oti eginan askhseis ston eqniko enaerio xwro. Milame gia to FIR Aqhnwn kai den jerw, tote, giati stalqhkan ta polemika mas aeroplana na anaxaitisoyn ta toyrkika. Epishs, kapoia stigmh prepei na mas poyn an doqhke h sygkataqesh mas gia thn perioxh 1. Giati den to leei;

REPPAS: To texnasma sas einai to ejhs, qa moy epitrecete na pw. Oi armodies yphresies dinoyn adeia gia th diejagwgh gymnasiwn, entos orismenhs perioxhs poy anhkei sto FIR Aqhnwn. Apo ekei kai pera, an aytoi oi opoioi symmetexoyn sthn askhsh parabainoyn kanones h parabiazoyn ton ellhniko enaerio xwro, asfalws, qa antimetwpistoyn me thn analogh etoimothta apo ta dika mas maxhtika aeroskafh. Den qa meinoyme apaqeis. Den exei sxesh to ena me to allo. An kapoios exei thn adeia na kanei nomimws mia drasthriothta se mia orismenh perioxh kai den ypakoyei stoys kanones kai toys periorismoys, opws problepetai, alla yperbainei ayto to orio, parabainei kanones, parabiazei eqnikoys xwroys, antilambaneste pws qa antimetwpistei analogws. Den edwse h YPA adeia, prokeimenoy na kanoyn aytes tis parabaseis kai parabiaseis ta toyrkika maxhtika.

KARAMPASHS: Edwse th sygkataqesh mas h YPA kai shkwqhkan sth synexeia ta polemika mas aeroskafh na anaxaitisoyn; H apanthsh twn Toyrkwn htan oti exoyme th sygkataqesh; Dhladh, to gnwrize to GEA;

REPPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti h YPA, oi armodies yphresies symfwnoyn kai dinoyn thn adeia gia na ginoyn gymnasia se mia orismenh perioxh. An aytos o opoios kanei ta gymnasia, tis askhseis, yperbainei ayto to orio poy toy exei teqei, tote qa antimetwpistei analogws. Alla, ayto den einai qema ths armodias yphresias, ths YPA, en prokeimenw. Einai qema etoimothtas, epagrypnhshs kai antimetwpishs toy fainomenoy parabasewn kai parabiasewn apo tis Enoples Dynameis ths xwras, pragma to opoio ginetai se kaqe periptwsh. Ginotan kai palaiotera, ginetai kai twra.

KARAMPASHS: Na to jekaqarisoyme. Yphrxan tria aithmata apo thn Toyrkia gia na desmeysoyn perioxes. Stis dyo ap` aytes, epeidh yphrjan dhmosieymata kai ths "Aqhnaikhs" kai ths "Eleyqerotypias", thn akribws epomenh, h YPA aphnthse arnhtika. H trith perioxh, h opoia den anaferotan sta dhmosieymata, apanthqhke qetika. S` ayth thn perioxh, otan phgan oi Toyrkoi na kanoyn tis askhseis toys, den shkwqhkan ta dika mas, symfwna me to reportaz, polemika aeroskafh na ta anaxaitisoyn epeidh ekanan parabiaseis, alla epeidh den gnwrizan -etsi lene oi plhrofories- oti yparxei h sygkataqesh mas. Ayto qelw na moy peite.

REPPAS: Qelw na sas pw oti yparxei kai gi` ayto to qema apanthsh apo thn YPA.

KARAMPASHS: Poia einai;

REPPAS: To deltio Typoy poy exei ekdoqei leei oti h YPA, se stenh synergasia me to GEA, opoy koinopoioyntai apeyqeias ta sxetika shmata kai me to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, diasfalizei ola ta anwterw kai proxwrhse sthn ekdosh twn sxetikwn odhgiwn, meta apo synennohsh me tis armodies yphresies twn dyo ypoyrgeiwn.

KARAMPASHS: Htan se gnwsh ayto;

REPPAS: Ma, anaferetai ayto. To leei h idia h YPA.

CAROPOYLOS: Na zhthsw mia dieykrinish, panw se dyo qemata: To prwto einai oti, xqes to brady, labame ena thlegrafhma apo to Praktoreio Rwyter, to opoio elege oti h ellhnikh pleyra dexqhke na arei to beto enantion ths entajhs ths Toyrkias sthn E. E. Ayto isxyei;

REPPAS: Poios epishmos, poios armodios ek meroys ths kybernhshs ths xwras mas exei probei se tetoia topoqethsh; Poios;

CAROPOYLOS: Egw apeyqynw ena erwthma.

REPPAS: Nai, poios;

CAROPOYLOS: Anaferetai ston anaplhrwth ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn k. Kranidiwth. Egw ayto to diabazw apo thn efhmerida shmera kai se eisagwgika ek meroys toy k. Kranidiwth.

REPPAS: Parakalw. Gia peite to, loipon.

CAROPOYLOS: Leei oti anamesa st` alla, ayta poy exei se eisagwgika, to sxolio poy yparxei...

REPPAS: Epikaleitai dhlwseis toy k. Kranidiwth to Praktoreio Rwyter h ginetai anaparagwgh mias synenteyjhs poy edwse o ypoyrgos Anaplhrwths se ebdomadiaia efhmerida, to prohgoymeno Sabbato; Giati, eida kai sthn Toyrkia na anadhmosieyetai ena meros ths synenteyjhs ayths, me enan tetoio tropo, o opoios odhgei sthn ejagwgh lanqasmenwn symperasmatwn.

CAROPOYLOS: Leei, an para tayta, exei ena oloklhro sxolio anaforika me th synanthsh poy eixe me ton k. Fiser edw. Leei oti, opws dhlwse o k. Kranidiwths, sto Dieqnes Praktoreio Rwyter, oti h kybernhsh einai diateqeimenh na arei tis epifylajeis ths gia thn anabaqmish ths Toyrkias ws ypochfias xwras, akomh ki an den ekplhrwqoyn oi proypoqeseis poy exei orisei h idia h E. E. gia epifylajeis ths ws pros ta anqrwpina dikaiwmata, lyshs toy Kypriakoy k. t. l. Kai meta exei mia oloklhrh paragrafo se eisagwgika ek meroys toy k. Kranidiwth.

REPPAS: Ws qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, paramenei h gnwsth qesh. O k. Kranidiwths den exei kanei tetoies dhlwseis, opoy na apodesmeyei th qesh ths Elladas gia thn entajh ths Toyrkias sthn E. E. h to xarakthrismo ths Toyrkias ws ypochfias pros entajh xwras, apo tis proypoqeseis oi opoies pagiws tiqentai, oxi mono gia thn Toyrkia, alla gia oles tis xwres, oi opoies qa prepei na enarmonistoyn me orismenes arxes kai basikoys kanones, prokeimenoy na diekdikhsoyn thn entajh toys sthn E. E. Ayto epanalhfqhke kai sth synenteyjh toy k. Kranidiwth. Ayth einai h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, thn opoia ekfrazei kai o k. Kranidiwths, se kaqe eykairia.

BITALHS: Dhladh, eseis lete, gia na to katalaboyme, giati einai sobaro to qema, k. Ekproswpe, kai syggnwmh poy synexizw, eseis, dhladh, diaceydete oti yparxei tetoio sxetiko thlegrafhma toy Rwyter me dhlwsh poy exei kanei o ypoyrgos Anaplhrwths Ejwterikwn, xqes, sto sygkekrimeno praktoreio;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola kai ayto poy diabasate den leei oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh exei allajei qesh kai dexetai h Toyrkia na xarakthristei ws ypochfia pros entajh xwra. Ekfrazei ena skeptiko. Sas lew, omws, gia na einai safhs h qesh mas kai na mh dhmioyrgoyntai paranohseis, oti h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai toy k. Kranidiwth, einai ayth poy aneptyja, prin. O xarakthrismos ths Toyrkias ws ypochfias pros entajh xwras sthn E. E., den mporei na kerdhqei apo thn Toyrkia an den ekplhrwqoyn basikes proypoqeseis, opws symbainei me oles tis xwres, oi opoies epidiwkoyn ton idio skopo.

FILHS: Epeidh anaferqhkate sthn efhmerida "EPENDYTHS" poy eixe ekei mia synenteyjh o k. Kranidiwths, leei -kai ayto einai mia nea qesh ths kybernhshs- oti h Ellada qa zhthsei apo toys etairoys na desmeytoyn ws pros thn proodo ths entajhs ths Kyproy sthn E. E. kai den qa epimeinei na prosfygei h Toyrkia sth Xagh, prokeimenoy na arqei h ellhnikh antidrash sthn proodo twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn. Ayto isxyei;

REPPAS: Eipe o k. Kranidiwths oti den qa epimeinei h Ellada; Exei xrhsimopoihsei aytes tis lejeis, tis opoies xrhsimopoieite kai toy apodidete;

FILHS: Diabaste to keimeno kai qa deite.

REPPAS: To exw diabasei to keimeno kai to exete diabasei kai eseis. Sas lew, loipon oti o k. Kranidiwths mila gia thn anagkh na ekplhrwqoyn aytes oi proypoqeseis apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias, opws einai o ekdhmokratismos twn qesmwn sto eswteriko ths xwras kai o sebasmos twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn. Kai bebaiws anaferei -einai poly logikh h syndesh ayth poy kanei- oti kai h proodos sto Kypriako h h entajh ths Kyproy sthn E. E., ef' oson den parempodizetai apo thn Toyrkia, einai paragontes oi opoioi -kai aytoi- qa prosmetrhqoyn, giati ola ayta, kaqena me to diko toy tropo, symballoyn sth dhmioyrgia enos kalyteroy klimatos stis sxeseis metajy twn dyo xwrwn. Kai asfalws to ena ephreazei to allo. Ola ayta ta qemata einai anoikta. Emeis paramenoyme sth gnwsth qesh, oson afora thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn E. E. Paramenoyme, epishs, sth gnwsth qesh, oson afora thn proodo twn eyrwtoyrkikwn sxesewn. Pisteyoyme oti oi qeseis aytes, peran toy oti einai qeseis ths koinhs logikhs, apoteloyn nomiko kai politiko kekthmeno gia thn E. E. kai den prepei na parabiastoyn.

FILHS: Me bash ta epishma stoixeia ta opoia dhmosieyontai shmera, oi ej ypoyrgwn trimeleis epitropes exoyn egkrinei gia to prwto pentamhno toy etoys enan ariqmo proslhcewn sto Dhmosio poy einai peripoy 90.000. Persi, oloklhrh th xronia, eixan egkrinei enan ariqmo kapoy 110.000. Poio einai ekeino to stoixeio poy dhmioyrgei ena neo, toso megalo kyma en ejelijei proslhcewn sto Dhmosio;

REPPAS: Prwta ap' ola den prokeitai peri megaloy kymatos. Oi ariqmoi kinoyntai peripoy sta idia epipeda. Mh nomizete oti mexri to telos toy xronoy qa exoyme yperbei to ariqmhtiko epipedo sto opoio kinhqhkan oi proslhceis ta prohgoymena xronia. Den prokyptei allwste kati tetoio apo ta stoixeia ta opoia epikaleisqe. Deyteron, gnwrizete poly kala oti ena megalo meros proslhcewn afora epoxika ergazomenoys. Enocei toy kalokairioy, opoy exoyme af' enos nees drasthriothtes, oi opoies qa prepei na ejyphrethqoyn me thn proslhch epoxikoy proswpikoy kai af' eteroy giati exoyme ena megalo ariqmo adeiwn poy lambanoyn oi ergazomenoi monimws sto Dhmosio, proxwroyme gi' aytoys toys logoys sthn proslhch proswpikoy, poy en pash periptwsei, den exei monimh ergasia sto Dhmosio.

Epishs, prepei na pw oti enocei ths neas sxolikhs xronias qa prepei apo twra na proxwrhsoyme sthn proslhch ekpaideytikwn, prokeimenoy na kalycoyme ta kena ta opoia yparxoyn, wste egkairws na einai sth qesh toys oi ekpaideytikoi se oles tis baqmides, eyqys ws arxisei h nea sxolikh xronia.

Telos, qa moy epitrecete na pw, oti oi proslhceis aytes -giati polys logos ginetai kai qelw na kanw ena genikotero sxolio me aformh thn erwthsh toy k. Filh- einai proslhceis oi opoies ginontai pantote me to nomo poy exoyme chfisei -milw genika gia tis proslhceis- ektos, bebaia, ekeinwn twn kathgoriwn ypallhlwn poy ypakoyoyn se ejairetikes kai idiaiteres diadikasies. Tetoia kathgoria apoteloyn, gia paradeigma, oi ekpaideytikoi oi opoioi -opws gnwrizete- proslambanontai af' enos me thn epethrida se ena megalo pososto pleon kai oxi apokleistika, opws isxye mexri twra, kai afeteroy me to diagwnismo ton opoio diejhgage to ASEP, se ena mikrotero pososto. Mia allh tetoia kathgoria apoteloyn oi giatroi sta dhmosia nosokomeia poy anhkoyn sto ESY, oi opoioi -opws epishs gnwrizete- epilegontai me diadikasies diaforetikes. Einai kapoies kathgories ergazomenwn poy epilegontai me alles diadikasies ektos ASEP. Oloi oi alloi epilegontai me bash tis antikeimenikes kai diafaneis diadikasies toy nomoy 2190. Ayto gia na mhn yparxei opoiadhpote paranohsh. Den yparxei opoiadhpote diafora se sxesh me ta prohgoymena xronia. H askoymenh politikh epidiwkei apo th mia ton periorismo twn apasxoloymenwn sto dhmosio tomea kai apo thn allh thn egkairh kalych twn kenwn poy yparxoyn se neyralgikoys tomeis.

FILHS: To prwto pentamhno toy '98, eixame 93.000 egkriseis proslhcewn, oses akribws einai fetos to prwto pentamhno toy '99;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti sto telos toy xronoy qa kanete ton apologismo kai qa deite oti qa kinhqoyme sta idia epipeda. Apo kei kai pera an deite ton ariqmo twn politwn poy proslhfqhkan ayth thn periodo, qa diapistwsete oti kymainetai sta idia epipeda enocei toy kalokairioy kai twn ejairetikwn epoxikwn drasthriothtwn poy anaptyssontai thn periodo ayth. Exoyme mia ayjhsh twn proslhcewn sto xwro ths ekpaideyshs kai sto xwro ths ygeias -symfwnoyme oloi s' ayto- gia na kalycoyme yparxonta kena.

FILHS: Dhladh yparxei ayjhsh proslhcewn;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti qa kymanqoyme sta idia epipeda. An oi ariqmoi einai kata ti megalyteroi, ayto qa to doyme apologistika kai pantws qeloyme na kalycoyme ta kena poy yparxoyn kyriws sto xwro ths ekpaideyshs. Giati h ekpaideytikh metarryqmish exei dhmioyrghsei poly perissoteres anagkes sto xwro ths ekpaideyshs, se sxesh me to parelqon. Otan xreiazetai na exoyme prosqeth eswsxolikh enisxytikh didaskalia gia kapoioys maqhtes -kai periorizomai mono s' ayto to paradeigma- antilambaneste pws xreiazetai ekpaideytiko dynamiko, prokeimenoy na efarmostei to tmhma ayto ths ekpaideytikhs metarryqmishs. Emeis epiqymoyme to sxoleio na apokthsei kai pali ton prwtagwnistiko rolo toy ws xwros maqhshs, gi' ayto akribws, qeloyme na stelexwsoyme plhrws ta dhmosia sxoleia se oles tis baqmides. Ayth einai h epidiwjh mas.

MIXAHL: Yparxoyn, shmera, plhrofories ston Typo oti h kybernhsh ejetazei to endexomeno na sygkrothsei ejetastikh epitroph gia to qema me tis promhqeies ths amerikanikhs etaireias LITTON. Yparxei kati tetoio apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti me to qema ayto asxoloyntai ta organa ths Dikaiosynhs. To parakoloyqoyme me idiaitero endiaferon, giati to qema einai poly shmantiko. Anamenoyme ta porismata aytwn twn ereynwn. Ayth einai h qesh thn opoia diatypwnw.

MIXAHL: Ti shmainei ayto; Shmainei oti an ta porismata einai tetoia poy kata th gnwmh sas na synistoyn peraiterw diereynhsh gia eyqynes politikwn proswpwn, h kybernhsh qa ejetasei ayto to endexomeno;

REPPAS: Einai mia ypoqesh thn opoia den prepei na kanoyme twra. Den prepei na prokatalaboyme ayth thn ejelijh, poly perissotero otan to qema to xeirizontai oi dikastikes arxes. Den qa prepei me opoiondhpote tropo na fanei oti parembainoyme sto ergo toys.

MIXAHL: O k. Kachs qa synanthqei me ton Prwqypoyrgo, afoy shmera exei klhqei na kataqesei oti stoixeia exei kai gia ta opoia milhse sth Kentrikh Epitroph;

REPPAS: Qema synanthshs toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys boyleytes panta yparxei. Kai bebaia, to antikeimeno tetoiwn synanthsewn den mporei na einai allo para h antallagh problhmatismwn kai h koinh prospaqeia na antimetwpisoyme ta qemata ths kybernhshs kai toy Kommatos. Apo kei kai pera gia to sygkekrimeno qema, h qesh toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ths kybernhshs einai jekaqarh. To logo exoyn oi dikastikes arxes.

KARGOYDH: Poso eystaqoyn plhrofories proerxomenes apo to Beligradi gia epishmh episkech toy k. Milosebits sthn Ellada;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw tipota sxetiko. Prwth fora to akoyw. Den nomizw oti prokyptei apo kapoy kapoia tetoia qesh, ena tetoio endexomeno.

FILHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw an h ellhnikh presbeia sto Beligradi, aperrice aithma toy gioy toy Milosebits na episkefqei, meta tis ejelijeis thn Ellada.

REPPAS: Den to gnwrizw ayto, alla mporeite apo to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn na exete sxetikh enhmerwsh.

BITALHS: Apo th stigmh poy yparxoyn aytes oi pieseis apo th germanikh pleyra, eiste diateqeimenoi na qesete ypo diapragmateysh ek neoy thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn E. E.;

REPPAS: Prwton den einai swsto na miloyme gia pieseis, giati den yparxoyn pieseis. Deyteron, to qema ths entajhs ths Kyproy sthn E. E. den afora thn Toyrkia. Afora thn Kypro kai thn E. E. H Toyrkia epiqymei na diathrhsei se aixmalwsia, omhria thn Kypro. H E. E. exei jekaqarh qesh s' ayto. Diatypwnontai, kata kairoys, diafores qeseis. Gnwrizete, omws, apo thn allh oti sthn prajh h syzhthsh gia thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn E. E. proxwra kanonika, me ryqmo analogo me ayto poy proxwra h syzhthsh gia thn entajh kai twn allwn xwrwn poy anhkoyn sto idio kyma me thn Kypro. Ara, loipon, h politikh gia thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn E. E. den mporei na yponomeyqei apo opoiesdhpote alles epiloges tritwn paragontwn.

BITALHS: Tote giati estw kai emmesws, k. Ekproswpe, yparxei ayth h "diapragmateysh" apo thn kybernhsh, oti an mas gracoyn mia dhlwsh gia thn entajh ths Kyproy tote qa janadoyme to qema ths Toyrkias, symplhrwmatika me kapoia alla zhthmata;

REPPAS: Den yparxei kamia diapragmateysh. Den yparxei kan diaqesh diapragmateyshs apo thn pleyra mas kai apo thn pleyra -eimai apolyta bebaios- ths Kyproy. Ayto to opoio, omws, einai realistikh qesh einai toyto: to klima metajy twn dyo xwrwn mporei, an beltiwqei, na symbalei wste na ejelixqoyn kalytera ta pragmata gia tis dyo xwres se oloys toys tomeis. To Kypriako gnwrizete oti gia mas apotelei meizon eqniko zhthma.

CAROPOYLOS: Yparxei dhmosieysh epistolhs toy Proedroy th LITTON pros ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo poy leei oti den yphrje qema symmetoxhs Ellhnwn ajiwmatoyxwn sthn ypoqesh LITTON;

REPPAS: Tetoioy eidoys eggrafa apoteloyn stoixeia enos fakeloy poy einai sth diaqesh twn dikastikwn arxwn. Oi dikastikes arxes qa oloklhrwsoyn thn ereyna kai qa ekdwsoyn to sxetiko porisma. Ayto anamenoyme.

KARAMPASHS: Epeidh sthn apanthsh ths h Yphresia Politikhs Aeroporias gia to qema eirwneyetai to gegonos oti den dhmosieysame toys stratiwtikoys xartes poy eginan oi askhseis, poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs, qa edine th sygkataqesh ths wste na dhmosieytoyn;

REPPAS: An hjera oti to kanete apo ypermetrh eyaisqhsia kai apo endiaferon na diafylajete aporrhta stoixeia, asfalws qa elega oti ayth h mh dhmosieysh apotelei mia prajh eyqynhs. Qelw na eimai eilikrinhs, oso mporw na eimai san anqrwpos, giati kai egw exw tis adynamies moy, opws kai eseis kai oloi. Den nomizw, omws, oti to kanate gi' ayto to logo. Kai an dhmosieysete tetoioy eidoys stoixeia, den qewrw oti allazoyn se tipota ta osa eipame mexri twra. To symperasma paramenei to idio. Den antapokrinetai sthn alhqeia to dhmosieyma sas kai oi titloi poy xrhsimopoihsate, xqes kai shmera bebaiws.

Sas eyxaristw.

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