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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 25 Maioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Qelw, eisagwgikws, na anaferqw stis syzhthseis ektos hmerhsias diatajhs poy ginontai sth Boylh, se epipedo politikwn arxhgwn, epeidh proekyce ena qema poy proballetai shmera se kapoies efhmerides ws kabgas, metajy twn ekproswpwn ths Kybernhshs kai ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, enw den prokeitai gia kati tetoio. Prokeitai gia asystola ceydh, ta opoia ektojeyse xqes o k. Sphliwtopoylos enantion ths kybernhshs, isxyrizomenos oti h kybernhsh apofeygei to dialogo gia ena shmantiko qema sth Boylh, ton opoio exei zhthsei h Nea Dhmokratia, pragma to opoio den antapokrinetai sthn pragmatikothta.

Prepei na sas pw oti oi syzhthseis, se epipedo politikwn arxhgwn, pro hmerhsias diatajhs sth Boylh prokaloyntai kai apo ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs. Dyo syzhthseis se kaqe synodo prokaloyntai apo th N. D. kai mia syzhthsh se kaqe synodo apo kaqena apo ta kommata ths loiphs antipoliteyshs. Den exoyn syzhthqei akomh dyo protaseis, mia ths N. D. kai mia toy DHKKI. Oi protaseis aytes exoyn to idio antikeimeno. Anaferontai sthn krish sto Kossyfopedio kai th stash ths Elladas apenanti se ayth thn krish. H protash toy DHKKI ypoblhqhke stis 16 Aprilioy kai ths N. D. stis 26 Aprilioy. Tetoies syzhthseis kata ton kanonismo ths Boylhs, prepei na apexoyn metajy toys 25 hmeres. Teleytaia syzhthsh, se epipedo arxhgwn, pro hmerhsias diatajhs egine thn prohgoymenh Tetarth, 19 Maioy. Antilambaneste pws exoyn parelqei 7-8 hmeres kai oxi 25, opws problepei o kanonismos. Ara h kybernhsh an hqele na apofygei to dialogo, qa mporoyse na aporricei sxetiko aithma kai na mh dexqei na ginei ayth h syzhthsh.

Exw anakoinwsei apo thn prohgoymenh ebdomada oti thn erxomenh Paraskeyh, 28 Maioy, qa ginei ayth h syzhthsh pro hmerhsias diatajhs se epipedo politikwn arxhgwn, me antikeimeno thn krish sto Kossyfopedio kai th stash ths xwras mas, thn ellhnikh ejwterikh politikh. H syzhthsh ayth einai h apanthsh ths kybernhshs sto aithma toy k. Tsobola, poy h aithsh toy kommatos toy prohgeitai xronikws, alla kai toy k. Karamanlh meta thn aithsh ths N. D. Einai ceydes, loipon, ayto poy isxyristhke xqes h N. D. oti emeis kwfeyoyme kai antimetwpizoyme me arnhtiko tropo sxetiko aithma poy exei ypoblhqei, epeidh dhqen fobomaste kai qeloyme na apofygoyme to dialogo sth Boylh. Apodeiknyetai oti ayto den symbainei. Ola ta stoixeia einai sth diaqesh sas. Einai fanero oti aytes oi antidraseis ths N. D. einai astoxes kai epipolaies. Den einai h prwth fora poy me tetoioy eidoys asystola ceydh h N. D. prospaqei na kathgorhsei thn kybernhsh. Arkoymai na sxoliasw oti "ejestin Klazomeniois asxhmonein". Ayth einai h alhqeia.

* Exw mia grapth erwthsh apo thn efhmerida "MAKEDONIA". H erwthsh leei ta ejhs: "Sthn Kyriakatikh Makedonia o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Gioygkoslabias k. Giobanobits, ekfrazei thn etoimothta ths xwras toy na diapragmateytei me bash th "symfwnia twn 8", alla amesa me to Geniko Grammatea toy OHE. Poio einai to sxolio ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs";

H apanthsh mas einai h ejhs: H ellhnikh kybernhsh sthrizei to sxedio ths Omadas twn 8 xwrwn. Pisteyoyme oti h symfwnia ayth mporei na apotelesei mia poly kalh bash kai thn afethria, prokeimenoy na arxisoyn amesws syzhthseis gia thn politikh lysh ths krishs sto Kossyfopedio. Ayth thn wra exoyn anaptyjei ena shmantiko mesolabhtiko rolo o k. Axtisaari kai o k. Tsernomirntin. Pisteyoyme oti prepei na ajiopoihqei ayth h mesolabhtikh prwtoboylia, h opoia allwste sthrizetai sto keimeno poy exoyn symfwnhsei oi 8 xwres. Pisteyoyme oti h ypobohqhsh toy ergoy twn dyo eidikwn mesolabhtwn qa odhghsei syntomotata sthn amesoterh kai entonoterh emplokh toy OHE kai eidikotera toy Symboylioy Asfaleias me apotelesma na ftasoyme sthn telikh lysh ths krishs.

* Ayrio, sth Synodo twn monimwn antiproswpwn toy NATO h ellhnikh kybernhsh, mazi me thn kybernhsh ths Tsexias, qa paroysiasei thn protash mas gia thn antimetwpish ths krishs. H protash mas periexei ena prooimio, sxetika me thn anagkh na anazhthsoyme politikh lysh sthn krish sto Kossyfopedio. Anaferetai sthn protash poy exei diatypwsei o Ellhnas ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn gia thn katapaysh toy pyros gia dyo h treis hmeres. Kai bebaiws, ginetai ektetamenh anafora stis dynatothtes ajiopoihshs toy keimenoy poy exoyn symfwnhsei oi 8 megales xwres, prokeimenoy na lyqei me eirhnika mesa h krish sto Kossyfopedio. Thn protash ayth qa paroysiasoyn o Ellhnas monimos antiproswpos kai o Tsexos omologos toy. Pisteyoyme na broyn antapokrish se ayth thn prwtoboylia toys.

Ayta se genikes grammes. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

FILHS: Yparxei kapoio sxolio ek meroys ths kybernhshs gia thn apofash ths stratiwtikhs epitrophs toy NATO, sthn opoia symmetexei kai h xwra mas, me bash thn opoia ayjanetai o ariqmos twn stratiwtwn se 50.000, poy prokeitai na anaptyxqoyn sto Kossyfopedio;

REPPAS: Den exoyn lhfqei tetoies apofaseis. Gnwrizete poly kala oti kaqws epikeitai h symfwnia gia politikh lysh toy problhmatos, metajy twn allwn diatypwnontai kai tetoies eishghseis, gia ayjhsh ths dynamhs twn stratiwtwn poy qa einai paroysa sthn perioxh, prokeimenoy na epithrhsei thn efarmogh ayths ths symfwnias. Einai poly prowro na milhsoyme gia apofash kai malista me anafora se sygkekrimeno ariqmo stratiwtwn, afoy antilambaneste oti den exoyn jekinhsei kan akomh oi syzhthseis, oi diapragmateyseis gia th diplwmatikh lysh ths krishs. Emeis pisteyoyme pws ayto poy prepei na ginei twra, einai na arxisoyn amesws oi syzhthseis, oi diapragmateyseis. Kai bebaiws, qa xreiastei anaptyjh stratiwtikwn dynamewn xwris bary oplismo, stratiwtikwn dynamewn poy den qa exoyn sxesh me thn anaptyjh polemikwn drasthriothtwn kai epixeirhsewn. Dynamewn poy qa exoyn ws kyrio kaqhkon kai apostolh toys na efarmostei h symfwnia, h opoia pisteyoyme na prokycei. Kai se ayth th dynamh qa exoyme ki emeis symmetoxh kai paroysia.

FILHS: Kai se epipedo stratiwtikhs epitrophs toy NATO, poy einai enas qesmos ths symmaxias kai symmetexei kai h Ellada ws melos toy NATO, exei lhfqei ayth h apofash gia thn ayjhsh toy ariqmoy stratiwtwn. To diaceydete ayto;

REPPAS: Exei ginei syzhthsh gia th dynatothta h thn anagkh na anaptyxqei enas megalyteros ariqmos stratiwtwn sthn perioxh, sto endexomeno na prokycei symfwnia, h opoia qa prepei na efarmostei katw apo thn epithrhsh ayths ths omadas stratiwtwn. Ayto omws, epanalambanw, einai kati to opoio epidiwketai. Den einai kati to opoio exei teqei se efarmogh. Kai bebaiws, qa teqei se efarmogh, efoson prokycei symfwnia. Alla apexoyme akoma apo to shmeio ayto.

FILHS: H Ellada exei enhmerwqei gia to periexomeno ths protasews, toy "G-8"; Jeroyme analytika ti problepei ayto to mnhmonio;

REPPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti h protash poy qa anaptyxqei ayrio, sto plaisio ths Synodoy toy NATO, apo ton Ellhna monimo antiproswpo kai ton Tsexo omologo toy, metajy twn allwn qa kanei kai ektetamenh anafora se ayth th symfwnia, thn opoia exoyme ypoch mas. H protash poy exoyme diatypwsei einai leptomerhs, einai analytikh. Einai mia protash poy lambanei ypoch ths ayto to keimeno ths "Omadas twn 8".

FILHS: Epeidh yparxoyn akanqwdh zhthmata gia thn apofash ayth...

REPPAS: Gi` ayto miloyme gia mia bash, h opoia prepei na xrhsimopoihqei kai na ajiopoihqei.

FILHS: H ellhnikh pleyra -h xwra mas einai kai melos toy NATO- qelei na einai kardia ths polemikhs dynamhs poy qa anaptyxqei sto Kossyfopedio, me th diadikasia poy lete, oti oi 8, to NATO, na telei ypo natoikh dioikhsh, opws epanelabe se arqro toy stoys "N. Y Times" o k. Klinton h einai yper toy xarakthra ths polemikhs dynamhs xwris diakrito rolo toy NATO;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, pisteyoyme oti prepei na ajiopoihqei o mesolabhtikos rolos twn kyriwn Axtisaari kai Tsernomirntin. Pisteyoyme oti an shmeiwqei proodos stis mesolabhtikes prwtoboylies twn dyo politikwn, tote qa eimaste poly pio konta sthn analhch prwtoboyliwn apo ton OHE me amesh emplokh toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy Organismoy. Pisteyoyme, loipon, oti h dynamh ayth qa prepei na brisketai katw apo thn aigida toy OHE, na exei thn kalych toy OHE kai bebaiws h synqesh ths einai ena qema to opoio qa apotelesei antikeimeno sto plaisio twn diapragmateysewn poy qa ginoyn. O, ti mporoyn na dextoyn oi dyo pleyres, prokeimenoy na pame se politikh lysh to syntomotero dynato, emeis qa to epikrothsoyme kai qa eimaste parontes, prokeimenoy na symbaloyme kai me tis dikes mas dynameis sthn epiteyjh ths lyshs ayths.

FILHS: Paramenei h ellhnikh qesh oti qa steiloyme stratiwtes sth qesh politikhs dynamhs, ypo ton oro oti qa symfwnei kai to Beligradi se ayth th lysh;

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti h qesh poy exoyme diatypwsei apo thn prwth stigmh, einai h orqh qesh. Asfalws, oi dynameis aytes, epeidh qa exoyn mia eirhnikh apostolh, qa ginoyn dektes apo oles tis pleyres poy exoyn emplakei se ayth thn krish. Emeis qa eimaste parontes, qa symmetexoyme se aytes tis dynameis. Me thn eirhnikh apostolh poy qa analaboyme, pisteyw oti qa symballoyme sto na ejomalynqei h krish. Exoyme ki emeis th dikh mas symmetoxh, giati exoyme eyqynh na symbaloyme se ayth thn kateyqynsh ths ejomalynshs ths krishs. Exw th gnwmh oti den yparxei antirrhsh apo kamia pleyra sthn anaptyjh ayths ths dynamhs. Hdh, sth bash ayth anaptyssoyn thn prwtoboylia toys kai syzhtoyn kai oi dyo mesolabhtes. O k. Axtisaari kai o k. Tsernomirntin gnwrizoyn oti, efoson ginoyn syzhthseis gia na anazhthqei politikh lysh, einai anapofeykth h anaptyjh mias tetoies stratiwtikhs paroysias.

FILHS: H erwthsh, kyrie Ypoyrge, htan safhs: ean h Ellada qa symmetasxei sth stratiwtikh dynamh sth Gioygkoslabia, an den yparjei h symfwnia toy Beligradioy.

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti ola ta shmeia sygklinoyn sto oti oles oi pleyres dexontai thn anaptyjh ayths ths dynamhs poy qa exei eirhnikh apostolh. Den exei prokycei apo poyqena antidrash, ara den mporoyme na syzhtoyme se ypoqetikh bash. H qesh mas isxyei,. asfalws, giati miloyme gia dynameis oi opoies qa exoyn ena sygkekrimeno rolo. Den qa emplakoyn se polemikes drasthriothtes. Mia tetoia emplokh, gnwrizete oti thn exoyme apokhryjei, eimaste apolytws antiqetoi kai den einai dynato na laboyme meros. Alla se dynameis poy qa exoyn allh apostolh, eirhneytikh qa eimaste parontes. Kai h Gioygkoslabia den exei aporricei ena tetoio endexomeno. Ayto qa apotelesei, metajy twn allwn, ena shmeio sto plaisio twn diapragmateysewn poy qa ginoyn. Kai makari na arxisoyn amesws oi diapragmateyseis aytes.

MOYRTZHS: H protash sas, ektos apo thn anaptyjh polyeqnikhs stratiwtikhs dynamhs, perilambanei kai thn apoxwrhsh olwn twn serbikwn stratiwtikwn dynamewn apo to Kosobo; Kati analogo exei pei kai h Italia.

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti ayto einai ena poly shmantiko, idiaiterhs shmasias shmeio gia th diapragmateysh poy qa ginei. H enarjh apoxwrhshs twn dynamewn aytwn exei hdh anakoinwqei apo thn kybernhsh ths Gioygkoslabias. Exei katastei safes kai apo to natoiko paragonta oti, efoson stadiaka apoxwroyn oi dynameis ths Gioygkoslabias apo to Kossyfopedio, mporei ayto na apotelesei stoixeio, wste na dieykolynqei h anaptyjh twn syzhthsewn. Se ayth th qesh paramenoyme.

MPOYATAR: Mia dieykrinish kyrie Ypoyrge: Eipate oti yparxei h anagkaiothta na ginei politikos dialogos kai kanate anafora se mia stratiwtikh dynamh xwris oplismo;

REPPAS: Eipa oti einai mia dynamh poy qa exei eirhnikh apostolh.

MPOYATAR: Nai. Eipate "xwris oplismo";

REPPAS: Den qa einai dynamh h opoia qa emplakei se polemikes epixeirhseis. Qa exei ta efodia kai ton ejoplismo poy einai aparaithta, prokeimenoy na antapokriqei sthn apostolh ths.

MPOYATAR: Ennoeite me eirhneytikh apostolh.

REPPAS: Nai, hmoyn safhs. Ayto eipa.

SOYGLERHS: H metabash toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn k. G. Papandreoy sthn Oyasigkton, einai prwtoboylia ths ellhnikhs pleyras h einai amerikanikh prwtoboylia;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti sto plaisio twn prwtoboyliwn poy anaptyssei h ellhnikh kybernhsh, o k. Papandreoy exei episkefqei jenes xwres, exei syzhthsei me jenoys hgetes. Htan mexri protinos sth Rwsia. Episkefqhke to Pekino, opoy syzhthse me ton omologo toy, alla kai ton antiproedro ths kinezikhs kybernhshs. Mporei na pei kaneis oti oi qeseis twn dyo xwrwn sygklinoyn. Sygklinoyn mexri toy shmeioy na taytizontai gia to pws mporei na antimetwpistei h krish. Kai mporw na sas pw oti o rolos ths Elladas, oi prwtoboylies poy exoyme anaptyjei thn teleytaia periodo, antimetwpisthke apo thn pleyra ths Kinas me idiaitera qetika, me egkwmiastika sxolia. O k. Papandreoy brisketai stis HPA, sto plaisio ths prwtoboylias poy o idios anaptyssei ws ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, prokeimenoy h Ellada na einai paroysa kai na symbalei sthn anazhthsh mias politikhs lyshs, to taxytero dynaton, sto problhma toy Kossyfopedioy. Einai prwtoboylia ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Sto plaisio twn syzhthsewn poy qa exei stis HPA, qa anaptyjei tis qeseis mas. Pisteyoyme oti qa brei prosforo edafos, giati blepoyme oti h qesh poy apo thn prwth stigmh diakhryje h ellhnikh kybernhsh, gia thn politikh antimetwpish ths krishs, ginetai dekth apo olo kai perissoteres dynameis, kaqws perna o kairos.

BITSENTZOY: Jerete an o k. Papandreoy eqese kai to qema parabiashs twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn sthn Kina;

REPPAS: To qema to opoio apasxolhse ton k. Papandreoy kai toys synomilhtes toy sto synolo aytwn twn prwtoboyliwn kai synanthsewn einai apokleistikws h krish sto Kossyfopedio. Antilambaneste pws den syzhthqhkan dimerh qemata, toylaxiston se leptomereies, kai bebaiws den syzhthqhkan qemata ta opoia mporei na pei kapoios oti aforoyn parembash ths mias xwras sto eswteriko ths allhs. Alla se epipedo genikwn arxwn, aytes oi syzhthseis pantote ginontai, xwris omws -epanalambanw- na eklabete oti to antikeimeno ths episkechs toy k. Papandreoy sthn Kina htan ayto. To antikeimeno ths episkechs toy afora thn krish sto Kossyfopedio.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Efoson, h ellhnikh kybernhsh qelei toso poly thn eirhnh kai pasxizei gi aythn, giati den fernei to qema sto NATO kai giati den aposyrei thn ypografh ths;

REPPAS: Den hsaste sthn arxh ths syzhthshs mas k. Stamatopoyle. Eipa oti ayrio, sth Synodo toy NATO, o Monimos Antiproswpos ths xwras mas me ton Tsexo omologo toy, qa anaptyjoyn thn koinh qesh, sthn opoia exoyn katalhjei, poy -metajy twn allwn- problepei thn katapaysh toy pyros gia liges hmeres, prokeimenoy na dieykolynqei etsi h anazhthsh politikhs lyshs. H ellhnikh kybernhsh me polloys tropoys exei, eite monh ths eite me alles xwres, symbalei sthn anazhthsh ths politikhs lyshs. Me ayth thn ennoia, einai poly qetikh h stash ths Elladas kai ayto anagnwrizetai apo oloys, ektos oligwn entos Elladas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh eipate oti anaptyssei prwtoboylia h ellhnikh kybernhsh, giati den paei o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn na ta pei mesa sto NATO h na aposyrei thn ypografh toy apo toys bombardismoys;

REPPAS: Epeidh h erwthsh ayth exei ginei, toylaxiston, deka fores apo esas, kai exw apanthsei kat` epanalhch, ayth th fora qa prospaqhsw na dwsw mia apanthsh diaforetikh. Prwta ap` ola gnwrizete oti oi synedriaseis twn Dieqnwn Organismwn ginontai se diafora epipeda. Synedriazei, ayth thn wra -etsi einai programmatismeno- to NATO se epipedo Monimwn Antiproswpwn. Emeis qa paroysiasoyme ekei th dikh mas protash, th dikh mas idea, thn opoia synypografei kai h kybernhsh ths Tsexias. Ayto ginetai me epishmo kai egkyro tropo, sto organo toy NATO, sto opoio syzhtoyntai ta qemata, ta sxetika me thn krish sto Kossyfopedio. Den exoyme kanena fobo na qesoyme eyqews kai eis ephkoon olwn twn allwn kratwn-melwn toy NATO, th qesh mas gia thn antimetwpish me diplwmatika kai politika mesa ths krishs sto Kossyfopedio. Kai ayto qa kanoyme. Opws, epishs, olh ayth thn periodo, stis dimereis h polymereis synergasies, stis opoies exoyme labei meros, exoyme qesei me emfantiko tropo thn epilogh poy exoyme kanei ws xwra: Oloi, apo koinoy, na ergastoyme prokeimenoy na ejeyreqei mia politikh lysh sthn krish. Ayta anagnwrizontai, epanalambanw, apo oloys, ektos oligwn entos Elladas.

MOYRTZHS: Tote, giati den to qetete sth Boylh;

REPPAS: H qesh toy Prwqypoyrgoy htan safhs, htan diayghs, otan sth Boylh syzhthqhkan tetoia qemata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa aposyrete thn ypografh sas, an den ginei dekth h prwtoboylia sas;

REPPAS: H Ellada paramenei melos toy NATO, epeidh ayto apotelei eqnikh epilogh. Exoyme diatypwsei tis epifylajeis mas gia tis drasthriothtes, oi opoies exoyn anaptyxqei sto Kossyfopedio, apo th Symmaxia. Alla den dianooymaste th stigmh poy h Ellada exei katorqwsei, me thn politikh poy akoloyqei, na einai paroysa, na exei kyros, na exei isxyrh fwnh kai parembash, na akoloyqhsei mia politikh, san ayth poy kapoioi ypainissontai h kai ypodeiknyoyn, wste na odhghqoyme telika sto periqwrio kai thn apomonwsh. O rolos periqwriakhs xwras den tairiazei sthn Ellada. Einai epilogh mas na eimaste mesa sth Symmaxia. Antapokrinomaste stis symbatikes ypoxrewseis poy exoyme logw ayths ths symmetoxhs mas. Apo kei kai pera, epeidh gnwrizete poly kala oti exoyme anaptyjei mia idiaiterh stash me tropo poly emfanh, wste na ginetai apodekth, mono kerdh politika, diplwmatika -mporei na pei kaneis- oti exoyme apokomisei. Kai ayto prepei na anagnwristei.

FILHS: Xqes, o k. Skandalidhs, deyteros th tajei sthn kommatikh ierarxia toy kybernwntos kommatos, dhlwse, se mia syzhthsh sthn thleorash, oti an h Ellada den prosypegrafe oles aytes tis apofaseis toy polemoy, poy ebgale to NATO, tote "qa htan h Ellada mia xwra ypo dieyqethsh". Dedomenoy oti einai eqnikh epilogh, oti anhkoyme sth Dysh kai ola ayta poy eipate...

REPPAS: Den ta eipa egw ayta, ayta ta eipate eseis.

FILHS: Einai eqnikh epilogh, eipate.

REPPAS: Nai, ayto to eipa, alla...

FILHS: Omws kai o Prwqypoyrgos exei pei oti h xwra mas anhkei sth Dysh. To arneiste ayto to pragma;

REPPAS: H xwra mas anhkei stoys Ellhnes.

FILHS: Gnwrizei kati o k. Skandalidhs poy den gnwrizoyme emeis; Kapoia apeilh poy qa proerxotan apo symmaxes xwres, ean h Ellada den prosypegrafe; Ti shmainei "xwra ypo dieyqethsh";

REPPAS: O k. Skandalidhs, opws kaqe politikos paragwn, kanei tis dikes toy politikes ektimhseis, sthrizomenos se dedomena ta opoia exei ypoch toy. Kai, bebaia, oloi exoyme ypoch mas -giati tipota den menei kryfo apo ayth thn krish- ola ekeina ta stoixeia, ta opoia einai arketa gia na bgaloyme orismena politika symperasmata h na kanoyme basimes ektimhseis. Ayto to opoio epanalambanw einai toyto: Oti emeis exoyme epilejei na symmetexoyme sto NATO. H qesh ths Elladas ektos NATO h h qesh poy qa odhgoyse se krish tis sxeseis ths me to NATO einai piqanon na dhmioyrgoyse kindynoys gia th xwra mas, gia thn eqnikh poreia mas. Kai ayto giati isws odhgoyse thn Ellada sto periqwrio kai thn apomonwsh, pragma to opoio qa apebaine se baros toy eqnikoy symferontos. Ayto antimetwpisame. Kai pisteyw oti to antimetwpisame me apotelesmatiko tropo. Kai ayto anagnwrizetai.

FILHS: Sygnwmh, k. Ypoyrge...

REPPAS: Akoyste, k. Filh, exete tis apoceis sas.

FILHS: Erwtw, epeidh exoyme kai ekloges...

REPPAS: Parakalw na meinoyme se syzhthsh, h opoia epidiwkei na employtisei thn enhmerwsh me ta plhroforiaka stoixeia, ta opoia exoyme ypoch mas. Na mhn epidoqoyme se mia syzhthsh, h opoia periexei, kyriws, antallagh problhmatismwn. Den qa kanoyme politikh syzhthsh, me ayth th morfh. Qa kanoyme syzhthsh politikhs enhmerwshs.

PAPAKWNSTANTINOY: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw an h kybernhsh qewrei prokrima to apotelesma twn eyrweklogwn, opws symbainei me th qesh toy k. Karamanlh, o opoios qewrei tis ekloges aytes prokrima gia tis eqnikes ekloges.

REPPAS: H kybernhsh ths xwras anadeiknyetai apo tis eqnikes ekloges. Oi eqnikes ekloges qa ginoyn to 2000. Tote qa exoyme oloklhrwsei ton kyklo toy kybernhtikoy ergoy, poy exoyme analabei na feroyme se peras me thn entolh poy mas edwse o ellhnikos laos stis ekloges toy 1996. Kai pisteyoyme oti h krish toy ellhnikoy laoy qa einai apolytws qetikh gia thn kybernhsh. Oi Eyrwekloges einai poly krisimes, apoteloyn ena mesostaqmo. Stis ekloges aytes o ellhnikos laos qa krinei thn politikh twn kommatwn gia thn poreia ths xwras pros thn Eyrwph. Asfalws, omws, oi ekloges aytes exoyn kai to idiaitero politiko toys nohma. Kai pisteyoyme oti o ellhnikos laos qa ektimhsei to ergo ths kybernhshs, qa antilhfqei ti einai ayto to opoio exoyme kerdisei me tis dikes toy qysies kai me thn kaqodhghsh, bebaiws, ths kybernhshs kai thn efarmogh ths kybernhtikhs politikhs, wste na mhn epitrecei ayto na diakybeytei kai telikws na xaqei. Pisteyoyme, loipon, oti to politiko mhnyma twn Eyrweklogwn einai poly shmantiko. Alla, apo thn allh epanalambanw oti h kybernhsh ths xwras anadeiknyetai apo tis eqnikes ekloges. Giati tote o Ellhnas poliths, o kaqe chfoforos, gnwrizei oti me thn chfo toy epilegei thn kybernhsh, poy gia tessera xronia, qa odhghsei th xwra. Kai pisteyoyme oti to 2000 kai pali qa anaqesei sto PASOK th diakybernhsh ths xwras gia thn epomenh tetraetia.

FILHS: Apo tis proeklogikes sygkentrwseis yphrje kati...

REPPAS: Ayta einai qemata poy aforoyn tis drasthriothtes twn kommatwn. Parakalw na to afhsoyme ektos syzhthshs.

FILHS: Epeidh, jekinhsate me proeklogika qemata th syzhthsh. Antiparaqesh me ton k. Sphliwtopoylo...

REPPAS: Oxi, kaqoloy. Milhsa gia qema poy afora thn kybernhsh kai th syzhthsh sth Boylh se epipedo Arxhgwn. Den exei sxesh to ena me to allo.

FILHS: Rwtw ean o Prwqypoyrgos einai ikanopoihmenos apo th xqesinh kai tis alles proeklogikes sygkentrwseis;

REPPAS: Apolytws.

GEROPOYLOS: Meta kai tis teleytaies omilies toy Prwqypoyrgoy stis proeklogikes sygkentrwseis h kybernhsh synarta thn aproskopth poreia entajhs ths xwras mas sthn ONE, me to apotelesma twn Eyrweklogwn;

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti to apotelesma twn Eyrweklogwn qa odhghsei sth synexish ayths ths politikhs, giati qa anadeijei kai pali to PASOK, ws th megalh paratajh, poy exei thn empistosynh ths pleiochfias toy ellhnikoy laoy, wste na odhghsei thn Ellada kai thn epomenh periodo, gia na entaxqoyme sthn ONE. Allwste, gnwrizete oti h entajh sthn ONE apotelei ena megalhs shmasias stoxo, ton opoio apo thn prwth stigmh eqese h kybernhsh. Ayto eipame stis ekloges toy 1996 ston ellhniko lao. Ayto kanoyme twra, afoy exoyme petyxei ola ta krithria, prokeimenoy to epomeno diasthma na ginoyme kai emeis isotimo melos ths ONE. H poreia pros thn Eyrwph einai dedomenh. Kai ayto ofeiletai sthn prospaqeia toy ellhnikoy laoy kai sthn kybernhtikh politikh. Ayto qa anagnwrisei o ellhnikos laos. Kai mazi, h kybernhsh kai h pleiochfia toy ellhnikoy laoy, qa synexisoyme thn prospaqeia mas, wste na ginei pragmatikothta h entajh mas sthn ONE. Ayto, dhladh, poy to 1993 fainotan apiasto oneiro, twra ginetai xeiropiasth pragmatikothta. Ayto apotelei ton aceydestero martyra gia thn epityxia ths politikhs poy akoloyqhsame.

SOYGLERHS: Exei oristikopoihqei h hmeromhnia toy debate metajy toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy k. Karamanlh sthn thleorash;

REPPAS: Ayto apotelei antikeimeno syzhthshs twn ekproswpwn twn kommatwn. Pisteyw oti qa symfwnhsoyn oi ekproswpoi kai nomizw oti h Kyriakh 6 Ioynioy, mporei na einai h hmera ekeinh poy dieykolynei kai tis dyo pleyres gia thn organwsh ayths ths syzhthshs. Alla, den qelw na prokatalabw th qesh sthn opoia qa katalhjoyn oi ekproswpoi twn dyo kommatwn. SOYGLERHS: Yparxei kati apo th Diakommatikh Epitroph;

REPPAS: H Diakommatikh Epitroph qa synedriasei twra h exei arxisei na synedriazei kai qa paw ekei molis teleiwsei h syzhthsh mas edw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate prohgoymenws gia th megalh kybernhtikh paratajh. An ayth h megalh kybernhtikh paratajh den erqei prwth stis ekloges, qa paraithqei o k. Shmiths;

REPPAS: An to erwthma poy tiqetai ston ellhniko lao einai: "poion qelei Prwqypoyrgo, ton k. Shmith h allon", kai ep` aytoy toy erwthmatos apanthsei o ellhnikos laos mporei kai eseis kai oloi na gnwrizete poia qa einai h apanthsh kai h antidrash mas. Gnwrizete, omws, poio einai to erwthma poy tiqetai ston ellhniko lao se aytes tis ekloges. Pisteyw, pantws, oti, etsi h alliws, o ellhnikos laos -ayto prokyptei apo pantoy- exei empistosynh ston Prwqypoyrgo kai epiqymei na synexisei na kyberna th xwra o k. Shmiths.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oxi, den einai etsi, giati mporei to PASOK na synexisei ws kybernhsh kai xwris ton k. Shmith.

REPPAS: Ayto einai ena senario episthmonikhs fantasias, to opoio mporei na kataskeyazete eseis poy exete eyryxwrh fantasia. Edw, omws, miloyme me bash ta apotelesmata sygkekrimenwn metrhsewn h ta apotelesmata ths kalphs. Qa perimenoyme, loipon, gia na mh logariazoyme xwris ton jenodoxoti qa pei o ellhnikos laos stis kalpes ths 13hs Ioynioy kai tote polloi qa ekplagoyn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gi` ayto kai sas rwtw. An den erqei prwth h kybernhtikh paratajh, qa paraxwrhsei o k. Shmiths th qesh toy se allon, mesa sto PASOK;

REPPAS: Mpainoyme se qemata poy aforoyn thn eswterikh leitoyrgia toy kybernhtikoy kommatos. O k. Shmiths anadeixqhke Proedros sto teleytaio Synedrio toy Kinhmatos, qa oloklhrwsei th qhteia toy sthn proedria toy Kinhmatos, kai, bebaiws sthn proedria ths kybernhshs symfwna me thn entolh toy ellhnikoy laoy.

BITSENTZOY: Qelw na rwthsw gia thn katastash sto Laiko Nosokomeio, opoy oi giatroi kataggelloyn oti den exoyn kan gantia gia to xeiroyrgeio me kindyno na molynontai, fainetai kapoioi na molynqhkan kai apo AIDS, an h kybernhsh skopeyei na asxolhqei me ayta ta kaqhmerina qemata.

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola prepei na pw oti, epeidh h prohgoymenh ebdomada htan proeklogikh gia toys giatroys, edwse thn aformh na ginoyn syzhthseis se ychloys tonoys kai na diatypwqoyn kritikes, oi opoies, isws, einai yperbolikes, sto klima kai to pneyma mias proeklogikhs periodoy. Apo thn allh, omws, anagnwrizoyme oti yparxoyn problhmata sta Nosokomeia. Exei ginei ena shmantiko ergo, me th dhmioyrgia newn nosokomeiakwn monadwn kai ton ejoplismo toys, me th stelexwsh toys me episthmoniko kai noshleytiko proswpiko -kai ayto prepei na anagnwristei- xwris na shmainei oti exoyn lyqei ola ta problhmata. Sthn kaqhmerinh askhsh twn kaqhkontwn toys, oi giatroi, oi noshleytes, oi ergazomenoi, ta antimetwpizoyn. H kybernhsh kanei oti kalytero mporei. Ta posa, poy exoyn diateqei -mporw na anaferw noymera sygkekrimena- einai terastia, se sxesh me to parelqon. Para tayta yparxoyn akomh problhmata. Prepei, loipon, na kanoyme akomh perissotera. Kai ayto epixeiroyme. BITSENTZOY: Egw sas milaw gia kati poly sygkekrimeno. Den exoyn gantia, opws kataggelloyn. Den mporei na breqei ena kondyli;

REPPAS: Den qelw na sas metaxeiristw me... to ganti, epeidh eiste gynaika! Sas lew oti ayto poy qetete eseis, to opoio isxyrizontai kai gi ayto kathgoroyn thn kybernhsh kapoioi giatroi sto Laiko Nosokomeio, mporei na apotelesei antikeimeno syzhthshs ths dioikhshs toy nosokomeioy me to ypoyrgeio Ygeias. Pisteyw oti h xrhmatodothsh twn Nosokomeiwn einai eparkhs, wste tetoioy eidoys anagkes na antimetwpizontai kai na ikanopoioyntai.

BITSENTZOY: Yparxei kai politikh skopimothta.

REPPAS: Kamia politikh skopimothta den yparxei apo thn pleyra mas. H kybernhsh bohqa ta nosokomeia na leitoyrgoyn me ton kalytero dynato tropo.

FILHS: Ta proeklogika mpalkonia akoyn to mhnyma twn giatrwn toy Laikoy;

REPPAS: Pisteyw oti oi giatroi einai ek twn epaggelmatiwn poy epikoinwnoyn, kaqe mera, me xiliades polites, ara, mporoyn na ephreasoyn apofasistika th skech toys kai tis epiloges toys. Antilambaneste, loipon, pws o rolos toys einai idiaitera shmantikos kai neyralgikos. Ayto as mhn to parablepoyme.

Eyxaristw poly.

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