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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 8 Aprilioy 1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas

Qa hqela na kanw orismenes anakoinwseis:

* H xqesinh tromokratikh energeia den strefetai enantion sygkekrimenoy stoxoy mono, alla einai mia prajh, h opoia blaptei th xwra. Mia tetoia energeia exei skopo na blacei th Dhmokratia mas, na yponomeysei thn politikh staqerothta. Ayta einai koinwnika agaqa, einai basikes proypoqeseis gia thn eyhmeria sth xwra mas. Gi' ayto, akribws, oloi, Kybernhsh, kommata kai polites, eimaste ametakinhta topoqethmenoi apenanti s' ekeinoys, oi opoioi probainoyn se tetoies prajeis. Oi armodies Arxes enteinoyn thn prospaqeia toys, prokeimenoy na syllhfqoyn oi ypeyqynoi tetoiwn prajewn kai na timwrhqoyn paradeigmatika. To fainomeno ayto, to opoio, se mikrh ektash, plhttei kai th xwra mas, den einai dynato na dinei se kapoioys thn entypwsh oti mporoyn me ayton ton tropo na prowqhsoyn ta sxedia toys. Gi' ayto, oloi exoyme dhmioyrghsei ena arrages metwpo apenanti stis skeceis, stis idees kai stis prajeis toys. Einai tromokratikes, einai egklhmatikes. Tis apodokimazoyme.

* Shmera, sth Boylh, synexizetai h syzhthsh toy nomosxedioy gia thn ejygiansh ths O.A.. To brady, peripoy stis 20.00, qa labei to logo kai o Prwqypoyrgos. Qa anaptyjei to plaisio ths politikhs ths Kybernhshs gia th swthria, thn anakamch toy eqnikoy aerometaforea. To qetiko einai oti, meta th symfwnia poy proekyce, oson afora to geniko kanonismo proswpikoy, dhmioyrgoyntai oi proypoqeseis gia thn ergasiakh eirhnh sto xwro ths O.A., wste meta thn chfish toy nomosxedioy, na proxwrhsoyme taxytata sthn efarmogh toy nomoy, pros ofelos afenos ths epixeirhshs kai afeteroy twn tajidiwtwn, oi opoioi idiaitera aytes tis hmeres, enocei ths Lamprhs, xrhsimopoioyn thn O.A.. Prepei na pw oti oi symfwnies, oi opoies exoyn ginei, oson afora ton kanonismo proswpikoy, qa symperilhfqoyn sto arqro 2 toy nomosxedioy. Pisteyoyme, oti h protash thn opoia exei kataqesei h Kybernhsh, me th morfh poy exei labei, meta tis diaboyleyseis poy eginan -diaboyleyseis epoikodomhtikes, qetikes- einai h plhrhs apanthsh sto problhma ths O.A.. Gnwrizete oti anaptyxqhkan antidraseis, diatypwqhkan enstaseis. H prospaqeia gia th swthria toy eqnikoy aerometaforea, den mporei na apotelesei pedio gia thn anadeijh nikhtwn kai htthmenwn. Kybernhsh kai ergazomenoi, apo koinoy, qa antimetwpisoyme to problhma sth megalh ayth epixeirhsh, prokeimenoy na diasfalistoyn kai oi qeseis apasxolhshs kai h O.A. na katastei perissotero ajiopisth, wste na antapokriqei sthn apostolh ths. Ara, loipon, exoyme oloi na kerdisoyme ena koino stoixhma. Kybernhsh, ergazomenoi, alla kai oi polites, opoioi exoyme logo na epidiwkoyme thn anakamch ths O.A..

* O Prwqypoyrgos, ayrio, qa exei diafores synergasies. Stis 14.00 qa synergastei me to Grammatea ths K.E. K. Skandalidh. Stis 19.00, qa dextei ton k. Zak Santer, o opoios brisketai sthn Ellada. Prepei na pw oti einai alhqes pws o Prwqypoyrgos eixe epishmanei ston k. Santer pws prepei na doqei mia lysh sthn ekkremothta, oson afora to metro ths symprwteyoysas. Pragmati, o k. Santer epedeije proswpiko endiaferon kai ta pragmata ejelissontai apolytws ikanopoihtika.

* Thn Paraskeyh qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, opws sas exw, hdh, anakoinwsei.

* To Sabbato, qa proedreysei sth synedriash ths K.E.

* Th Deytera, qa exei pali synergasia me ton k. Santer.

* Th M. Trith kai th M. Tetarth exoyme thn epishmh episkech sth filh kai geitona xwra Boylgaria. Ayto, se poly adres grammes, einai to programma twn kinhsewn toy Prwqypoyrgoy kata tis epomenes hmeres.

* Qa hqela, telos na sas enhmerwsw oti shmera kai ayrio , sto Zappeio, exoyme kalesei toys epikefalhs twn Grafeiwn Typoy ths Elladas kai ths Kyproy se olo ton kosmo. Ginetai ena eidos seminarioy, me ena sygkekrimeno qema. To qema ayto afora thn poreia entajhs ths Kyproy sthn E.E., ta problhmata poy mporei na prokycoyn kai toys xeirismoys poy prepei na ginoyn, prokeimenoy na efodiasoyme toys ekproswpoys mas sta Grafeia Typoy, se olo ton kosmo, me to aparaithto yliko kai tis gnwseis ekeines poy toys einai xrhsimes, wste na kanoyn swsta to ergo toys. Ek meroys toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn qa milhsoyn o k. Pagkalos, o k. Papandreoy kai o k. Kranidiwths, enw apo thn Kypriakh Kybernhsh omilhtes qa einai o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Kasoylidhs kai o Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos k. Stylianidhs. Oson afora emena qa milhsw to apogeyma. Oi syzhthseis einai kleistes. Ayta apo emena. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

BITSENTZOY: Yparxoyn orismenes plhrofories oti qa analabei to briefing mia texnikh etaireia, akoysa malista to onoma ths etaireias Kokkalh. Einai etsi;

REPPAS: Epeidh aytoi oi ciqyroi eftasan kai sta dika moy aytia, prepei na pw oti oxi mono einai geloioi, alla qa prepei na einai dianohtikws anaphroi osoi skeptontai kan oti yparxei dynatothta na symbei kati tetoio.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Ektelestiko Grafeio den exei thn Paraskeyh;

REPPAS: Exei. Gi' ayto akribws eipa oti ayrio o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synergasia me ton k. Skandalidh, enocei ths synedriashs toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy poy qa ginei thn Paraskeyh to apogeyma, stis 16.00.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Gnwrizete to qema toy;

REPPAS: Qema synedriashs einai ayto poy apotelei kai antikeimeno ths synedriashs ths K.E.. Exei synergasia me ton k. Skandalidh enocei ths synedriashs toy E.G.. Synedriazei to E.G. enocei ths synedriashs ths K.E.. Exoyme kaqe hmera, dhladh, mia kommatikh diadikasia, me to idio antikeimeno. Einai h epilogh twn ypochfiwn gia tis Nomarxiakes kai Dhmotikes Ekloges, h syzhthsh toy politikoy plaisioy gia thn kalyterh proetoimasia twn kommatikwn dynamewn, enocei twn eklogikwn anametrhsewn, h aposafhnish twn qesewn mas, me tis opoies qa apeyqynqoyme ston Ellhniko Lao, zhtwntas toy na symparastaqei sthn prospaqeia poy kanoyme, prokeimenoy h Topikh kai h Nomarxiakh Aytodioikhsh na gnwrisoyn akomh kalyteres hmeres, doqentos oti stoys qesmoys aytoys oi kainotomes epiloges ths Kybernhshs exoyn dhmioyrghsei ena neo qesmiko kaqestws, alla kai ena neo pragmatika topio. Gi' ayto akribws gia mas, oi anametrhseis aytes exoyn idiaitero endiaferon.

MOSXOBAS: An den apatwmai, o k. Shmiths eixe desmeytei oti qa kanei mia analytikh syzhthsh sto E.G. gia thn poreia pros thn ONE kai thn entajh ths draxmhs sto Mhxanismo Synallagmatikwn Isotimiwn (MSI). Den qa ginei ayto thn Paraskeyh;

REPPAS: Qa ginei kai ayto. Einai sto plaisio toy programmatismoy poy kanei o Prwqypoyrgos gia synedriaseis kommatikwn organwn. Alla, den qa hqela na syzhthsoyme gia ta kommatika organa, pote synedriazoyn kai me ti asxoloyntai. Aplws, sas dinw ena perigramma kai mono.

MOSXOBAS: Qa hqela to sxolio ths Kybernhshs gia to gegonos oti h PASKE, h syndikalistikh paratajh poy proskeitai sto PASOK, edwse xqes sth dhmosiothta ena keimeno, to opoio antitiqetai se metoxopoihseis-idiwtikopoihseis twn DEKO.

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh pantote parakoloyqei me eyaisqhsia toys problhmatismoys twn ergazomenwn, idiaitera otan oi ergazomenoi anhkoyn s' enan politiko xwro kai ekfrazoyn apoceis, oi opoies briskoyn ki emas to idio anhsyxoys kai agwnioyntes gia to pws qa epityxoyme to stoxo mas: Mia isxyrh Ellada ston 21o aiwna. Oi apoceis aytes -pisteyw- dikaiologoyn ws ena baqmo ton problhmatismo poy exoyn ekfrasei, edw kai poly kairo, stelexh toy PASOK, syndikalistika idiaitera, alla dikaiologoyn, an qelete, kai th stash ths Kybernhshs, h opoia den exei pacei oyte stigmh na anaferetai sta qemata ayta ths ergasias, sta dikaiwmata twn ergazomenwn kai na diatypwnei thn protash ths, me enan tetoio tropo, o opoios telikws odhgei sto na prosarmostoyme kai na enarmonistoyme me ta osa isxyoyn stis alles xwres ths E.E., me tis opoies briskomaste, qeloyme, den qeloyme -antikeimenika pleon- s' enan antagwnismo. Gi' ayto akribws pisteyoyme oti oi allages aytes, oi ryqmiseis aytes prepei na ginoyn me eyaisqhsia gia toys ergazomenoys, me gnwmona to dhmosio symferon kai th diasfalish mias eqnikhs prooptikhs gia th xwra mas, enocei ths neas xilietias.

MOSXOBAS: Kaqws oi idioi oi syndikalistes xarakthrizoyn ta metra adika, anapotelesmatika, pws dikaiologoyn th stash sas;

REPPAS: Ta metra ths oikonomikhs politikhs exoyn mexri twra apodwsei karpoys, me apotelesma h Ellada na syzhta me ta organa ths E.E., se allh pleon bash. Gi' ayto epityxame thn entajh toy nomismatos mas sto MSI, pragma poy den qa htan efikto, an den eixame ta apotelesmata ayths ths politikhs. Einai gnwsto oti exoyme epityxei qeamatikh beltiwsh stoys deiktes ths oikonomias, pragma to opoio wfelei toys ergazomenoys, toys aploys polites. Nomizw oti h apoklimakwsh toy plhqwrismoy, ferontas ena mono paradeigma, antimetwpizei prwta ap' ola thn agwnia twn politwn, twn katanalwtwn, giati antapokrinetai sth dikh toys anagkh na briskoyn stis kaqhmerines synallages toys sthn agora, staqeres times sta proionta h stis yphresies. Ayto einai, kyriws, pros ofelos diko toys kai nomizw oti antilambanontai oloi pws yparxei ena epipedo twn logwn, twn analysewn, ths qewrias. Yparxei omws ki ena epipedo ths pragmatikothtas. H Kybernhsh prospaqei na taytisei ayta ta dyo epipeda. Den prepei na meinoyme mono sto epipedo twn analysewn, alla qa prepei to kybernhtiko ergo, h prajh ths Kybernhshs na einai ayth h opoia qa katajiwnei tis analyseis mas kai qa apodeiknyei oti einai orqes oi analyseis kai oi epiloges mas. Mexri twra, ta apotelesmata synhgoroyn yper aytwn twn qesewn.

BITSENTZOY: Qa hqela na rwthsw an o k Tzoymakas, otan eferne kai pernage apo th Boylh ton xaristiko nomo gia ta xreh twn agrotikwn synetairismwn kai kapoiwn ektrofewn xeliwn, gnwrize oti parabainei thn koinotikh nomoqesia kai ti qa kanei twra h Kybernhsh sas poy h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph exei kinhsei diadikasies; Qa fqasei mexri to dikasthrio kai qa diakindyneysei ena bary prostimo h qa anasteilei thn efarmogh aytoy toy nomoy;.

REPPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti oi diadikasies tis opoies exei kinhsei h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph einai sto plaisio twn synhqwn diadikasiwn poy ginontai gia ta qemata twn dapanwn sto koinotiko systhma. Otan epishmws perielqei se gnwsh mas h qesh twn organwn ths Epitrophs, tote ki emeis qa anaptyjoyme ta dika mas epixeirhmata. Mexri tote, den exoyme logo na poyme kati allo. Qa prepei na doyme epishmws kai egkyrws ta epixeirhmata poy xrhsimopoioyntai, prokeimenoy ki emeis na poyme to diko mas logo.

BITSENTZOY: Afora tis paranomes kratikes enisxyseis pantws to qema.

REPPAS: Gnwrizw to qema. Sas eipa pws akribws exoyn ta pragmata. Menoyme, twra, s' ayto.

PETOYRH: Exw dyo erwthseis. H mia afora th dhlwsh toy Proedroy ths OSPA, o opoios pisteyei oti to nomosxedio brisketai sth swsth kateyqynsh alla prepei na yparjoyn kapoies diorqwtikes kinhseis. Qa yparjoyn;

REPPAS: Eipa kai se allh eykairia, oti stoxos mas einai na swsoyme kai na ejygianoyme thn O.A. An mename siwphloi kai adiaforoi apenanti sto drama ths, antikeimenika qa odhgeito se kleisimo. O nomos toy 1994 oloklhrwqhke ws pros thn efarmogh toy, afoy problepotan mexri teloys toy 1997 na kriqei to apotelesma ths efarmoghs toy nomoy aytoy. Ta apotelesmata sas einai gnwsta. Emeis, anti na apaitoyme ayta ta opoia dwsame tote sthn O.A. ws Dhmosio, syntrexoyme kai syndramoyme thn prospaqeia thn opoia kanoyn kai oi ergazomenoi sthn O.A., prokeimenoy na swsoyme ton eqniko aerometaforea. Kai pisteyoyme oti qa swqei o eqnikos aerometaforeas, an kai oi ergazomenoi, jepernwntas ton eayto toys kai tis opoies pikries h antidraseis poy mexri twra xarakthrizoyn th stash toys, symbaloyn sto na parameinei synexws leitoyrgoysa h megalh ayth epixeirhsh. Na mhn kleisei oyte mia wra, opws exw pei xarakthristika. Kai bebaiws na symbaloyn, prokeimenoy na epityxoyme toys stoxoys poy exoyme qesei. Sto nomosxedio ekfrazetai o koinos topos twn syzhthsewn poy eginan. Antilambanomaste oti oi syndikalistes exoyn kapoies apoceis tis opoies qeloyn na prowqhsoyn. Emeis, paramenoyme sthn politikh protash poy exoyme diatypwsei, giati pisteyoyme oti einai plhrhs kai ikanh na dwsei lysh sto problhma.

PETOYRH: Kai h deyterh erwthsh, afora th Synodo ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs toy PASOK, alla einai kai genikotero qema. Qa hqela na rwthsw an qa teqei qema katastatikwn synepeiwn enanti toy k. Mpeh, o opoios ...

REPPAS: To PASOK prepei na leitoyrgei me bash to Katastatiko toy, to opoio einai dhmokratiko, exei chfistei apo to Synedrio toy kai mas desmeyei oloys. Einai politikh kai hqikh ypoxrewsh o sebasmos kai h thrhsh toy Katastatikoy. Kai h parabiash toy den mporei na pernaei aparathrhth.

KIAOS: Eipate oti einai dhmokratiko to Katastatiko, dhladh, oi diagrafes basei dhmokratikoy Katastatikoy ginontai;

REPPAS: Miloyme gia mia kommatikh diadikasia. Den miloyme gia ton kanonismo leitoyrgias ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas, o opoios kai aytos einai dhmokratikos...

KIAOS: Se kommatikh leitoyrgia, anaferomai ki egw.

REPPAS: Prepei na pw, oti kanete laqos. Den exoyn sterhqei thn idiothta toy meloys toy PASOK oi boyleytes. Exoyn teqei, aplws, ektos Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas. Einai allos o kanonismos leitoyrgias ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas kai allo to katastatiko toy Kinhmatos. Kai ta dyo periexoyn sygkekrimenes diatajeis, basei twn opoiwn leitoyrgoyme kai antimetwpizoyme ta problhmata poy prokyptoyn. Mhn kanete ayth th sygxysh.

KIAOS: Ayto rwtw, oti oi diagrafes problepontai apo to Katastatiko, ara to Katastatiko einai dhmokratiko poy problepei diagrafes;

REPPAS: Edw qetete ena qema qewrhtikwn paradoxwn. An h diagrafh ws metro einai mia dhmokratikh arxh. Ayto einai ena allo qema, alla prepei na sas pw oti kai aytoy toy eidoys h poinh exei problefqei kai yparxei se para polla katastatika, ta opoia diepoyn th leitoyrgia politikwn forewn kai oxi mono. Einai mia poinh.

GARGALAKOS: Apo o,ti jerw o k. Mpehs einai apla melos mias Topikhs Organwshs toy PASOK. Den einai oyte melos ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs. Qa kinhqoyn diadikasies lete, dhladh, na ton diagracei h Topikh Organwsh;

REPPAS: Qa syzhthsoyme edw ti akribws, qa kanoyn ta organa toy Kinhmatos, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisoyn ta problhmata poy prokyptoyn; Den exei kamia qesh h syzhthsh ayth, edw. Ayta einai qemata poy aforoyn thn eswterikh leitoyrgia toy Kinhmatos mas. Parakalw poly na ta syzhthsete me toys armodioys toy Kinhmatos mas kai na ta krinete an den sas einai aresta.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, me aformh ta osa eipate, oti to PASOK prepei na leitoyrgei me bash to Katastatiko toy. Qewreite oti exei parabiasei o k. Mpehs ayth th stigmh arqra toy Katastatikoy;

REPPAS: Se ena syllogiko sxhma den einai aparaithto na symfwnoyme gia ola ta qemata kai se oles tis apoxrwseis, osoi symmetexoyme. Exoyme, omws, organwsei th synyparjh mas me ena tetoio tropo, wste na throyme basikoys kanones gia na mporoyme na synergazomaste. To Katastatiko einai ena plaisio ryqmisewn kai kanonwn, me to opoio epitygxanoyme na organwnoyme ayth th synergasia. Kai m' ayth thn ennoia qa prepei na ginetai sebasto. Lew kati to aytonohto, alla polles fores, opws exoyme janapei, ta aytonohta den einai toso aytonohta oso aytonohta ta nomizoyme.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Qewreite oti den einai sebastes oi katastatikes diatajeis;

REPPAS: Prepei na ginontai sebastes apo oloys mas.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Apo ton k. Mpeh den ginontai sebastes;

REPPAS: Yparxoyn organa ta opoia qa krinoyn to opoio qema kaloyntai na antimetwpisoyn. An exei prokycei qema, nomizw oti qa exoyn to logo na epilhfqoyn kai na apofasisoyn analogws.

FASOYLAS: Sxetika me to METRO ths symprwteyoysas, mporoyme na elpizoyme oti "to nero qa mpei sto aylaki", telika;

REPPAS: Mia kai milhsate gia "nero sto aylaki" mporeite na elpizete oti kerdizoyme para poly xrono kai den qa kanoyme "mia trypa sto nero", qa kanoyme "mia trypa" gia na kykloforei to METRO.

KARASABA : Hqela na rwthsw, meta th dhlwsh poy kanate sxetika me thn tromokratikh epiqesh kai tis dhlwseis sas gia tis epiptwseis poy exoyn tetoies energeies gia thn Ellada, symmerizetai twra h ellhnikh Kybernhsh , taytizetai me tis anhsyxies kai tis dhlwseis toy Amerikanoy Presbh k. Mperns poy ekane sxetika me ayto to qema thn prohgoymenh ebdomada; Kai deyteron, an epibebaiwnete kapoies plhrofories oti h ellhnikh Kybernhsh skopeyei na diaqesei ena xrhmatiko poso, etsi opws exei kanei h Amerikh , as poyme, me ena poso 2 ekatommyriwn dolariwn, gia stoixeia ta opoia mporoyn na paroysiasoyn kapoioi ; Mia epikhryjh dhladh.

REPPAS : Ta fainomena ayta sthn Ellada, exoyn perioristei se mikrh sxetika klimaka, an ta sygkrinoyme me thn ejaplwsh poy exei to fainomeno ayto se alles xwres. Ara den dexomai oti h Ellada mporei na anaferetai ws paradeigma xwras sthn opoia anqei h tromokratia h oti to fainomeno ayto exei parei mia diastash h opoia einai prwtofanhs h idiaiterh kai xarakthrizei th xwra mas. Kaqe allo. Ektos toytoy yparxoyn anhsyxies tis opoies exoyme ekfrasei kat' epanalhch kai gnwrizete oti , gia alloys mikres gia alloys megalyteres, yparxoyn epityxies twn diwktikwn arxwn kai ths Ellhnikhs Astynomias kai thn teleytaia periodo. Exoyn ginei syllhceis ypoptwn atomwn, ejetazetai h sxesh toys me tis energeies aytes. Nomizw oti exoyn ginei qetika bhmata kai qa prepei na pistwqoyn sto ergo ths Ellhnikhs Astynomias oi energeies aytes, oi epityxies aytes. H synergasia twn ellhnikwn diwktikwn arxwn me tis armodies arxes twn allwn xwrwn ths E.E. kai twn HPA , einai synexhs. Kai emeis , epeidh to fainomeno ayto den gnwrizei synora, anamenoyme th bohqeia aytwn me toys opoioys synergazomaste prokeimenoy na einai pio apotelesmatikh h prospaqeia mas. Ta apotelesmata einai sygkekrimena kai sta apotelesmata ayta exoyn ftasei synergazomenes oi ellhnikes diwktikes arxes, me tis arxes twn allwn xwrwn. Synergazontai oloi ekeinoi oi opoioi exoyn topoqethqei ametakinhta apenanti se ayto to egklhmatiko fainomeno.

KARAKWSTAS : Protiqeste na sxoliasete mia dhlwsh toy k. Prwtopappa sto Periodiko "KAQREPTHS" symfwna me thn opoia "osoi sto PASOK exoyn sto myalo toys thn efodo sta xeimerina anaktora ths kommatikhs ejoysias kai akonizoyn ta maxairia toys trwgontas makaronades, qa apogohteyqoyn". Poioys exei apodektes ayth h dhlwsh toy k. Prwtopappa;

REPPAS : Einai oi apoceis toy agaphtoy synadelfoy. Den einai dynaton na sxoliazei o enas tis apoceis toy alloy. Gnwrizete oti yparxoyn katastatikoi kanones basei twn opoiwn kaqenas dhlwnei tis apoceis toy kai ekdhlwnei th symperifora toy. Kai nomizw oti oi kanones aytoi einai koinoi, mas desmeyoyn oloys.

KANELLAKHS : Kyrie Ypoyrge, apo to dialogo Tzoganh-Karantagi proekyce kati qetiko gia ta metra oikodomhshs empistosynhs kai an h ellhnikh Kybernhsh skeptetai na epikhryjei toys Toyrkoys emprhstes. sth xwra mas.

REPPAS : H syzhthsh metajy twn dyo arxhgwn twn Genikwn Epiteleiwn kinhqhke sto plaisio ths antallaghs apocewn epi twn genikwn qematwn twn sxesewn twn dyo xwrwn. Epishmanqhke, asfalws, ston Toyrko stratiwtiko hgeth h eyqynh poy exei h xwra toy me th stash thn opoia throyn oi stratiwtikes dynameis ths, idiws, na parabiazoyn kai na parabainoyn ton enaerio xwro kai toys kanones enaerias kykloforias me ta maxhtika aeroskafh toys. Epishs, sto plaisio ayths ths syzhthshs -h opoia eixe ena geniko xarakthra, epanalambanw- epishmanqhke apo toys dyo andres to endiaferon na yparjei proseggish kai na beltiwqoyn oi sxeseis metajy twn dyo xwrwn. Kai oi dyo eipan oti to epiqymoyn kai qa prepei na symbaloyn s' ayth thn kateyqynsh. Alla, (oi Toyrkoi) qa prepei na symbaloyn oxi mono me logia alla kai me sygkekrimenes prajeis.

KANELLAKHS : Gia to deytero skelos, gia thn epikhryjh, den apanthsate.

REPPAS : Gnwrizete oti gia ta qemata ayta, ta stoixeia ta opoia exoyme syllejei ta exoyme anadeijei , ta diaxeirizomaste me tetoio tropo wste na einai o eqnika wfelimos. Den exoyme ypoch mas na proboyme se kapoia allh prajh, doqentos oti to nomiko plaisio ths xwras to opoio yparxei einai plhres kai oi arxes kinoymenes entos aytoy toy plaisioy, anazhtoyn toys ypeyqynoys aytwn twn prajewn. Den exoyme, mexri twra, ta apotelesmata poy epiqymoyme . H prospaqeia synexizetai.

MOSXOBAS : Gia to xqesino deipno, h Kybernhsh qewrei oti htan mia epideijh isxyos, ena mhnyma eswkommatikhs diamaxhs h aplws ena deipno; Erwtw giati edw fainetai oti syzhthqhkan politika qemata, akoysthkan parapona gia alazonikh kybernhsh k.o.k.

REPPAS : Dhladh oles aytes oi apoceis, poy kata th gnwmh sas ekfrasthkan ekei, isxyrizeste oti den ekfrazontai poyqena alloy para mono sto plaisio enos tetoioy deipnoy; Ara einai ena gegonos to opoio prokalei tetoia entypwsh, dhmioyrgei nea dedomena kai qa prepei na mas apasxolhsei me ayto ton tropo;

MOSXOBAS : Eseis qa mas peite.

REPPAS : Egw pisteyw oti ekei egine epideijh isxyos geysews kai mageirikwn ikanothtwn! Aytes oi koinwnikes synanastrofes gnwrizete, para poly kala, oti apoteloyn stoixeia toy kaqhmerinoy politismoy. Sth zwh twn anqrwpwn yparxoyn aytes oi synanthseis kai kalo einai na synexisoyn na yparxoyn. Oi anqrwpoi einai koinwnika onta. Den zei monos toy o anqrwpos.

GKOGKAS : Boyleytes poy phran meros sto geyma xqes to brady, eipan oti h Kybernhsh me thn politikh poy akoloyqei apomakrynetai apo ta laika strwmata poy paradosiaka th sthrijan. Den nomizw oti isxyei h dhlwsh sas oti egine mia epideijh isxyos geysews.

REPPAS : Antilambaneste oti milhsa ston tono ston opoio teqhke kai h erwthsh. Asfalws, o kaqenas exei th dynatothta na leei thn apoch toy . Kai thn apoch toy o boyleyths h to stelexos th leei dhmosiws. Th leei kai entos toy Koinoboylioy. Thn gnwrizete. Kai gnwrizete poia einai h politikh poy akoloyqoyme. Egw pisteyw oti h politikh mas einai ayth h opoia diakrinetai kai gia thn koinwnikh eyaisqhsia ths, gia to endiaferon ths oson afora ta dikaiwmata twn ergazomenwn kai gi' ayto akribws einai mia politikh h opoia emperiexei se aristes doseis kai thn prospaqeia gia thn anaptyjh kai th diasfalish twn synqhkwn eyhmerias, alla kai thn prostasia twn dikaiwmatwn kai ths apasxolhshs, gia toys ergazomenoys sthn patrida mas. Allwste h Kybernhsh meqayrio fernei pros syzhthsh sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio to eqniko sxedio gia thn apasxolhsh, oson afora to 1998. Kai se synexeia apofashs poy exei lhfqei sto Loyjemboyrgo, ayto qa ginetai kaqe xrono. H Kybernhsh kaqe xrono qa proteinei ena eqnikoy xarakthra sxedio gia thn apasxolhsh, me sygkekrimena metra politikhs, ta opoia qa einai amesa efarmosima. Sto telos toy '98, sas anaggellw apo twra oti qa paroysiasoyme to sxedio gia thn apasxolhsh toy 1999. Einai ena idiaitera shmantiko kefalaio. Ston tomea ayto kai me dedomenoys toys yfistamenoys periorismoys, oxi mono sthn Ellada alla dieqnws, exoyme kanei shmantika bhmata. Exoyme kai emeis ta epiteygmata mas. Den prepei na mhdenizontai.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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