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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 1.4.1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalo mhna.

Qa moy epitrecete na kanw anafora se tria qemata.

* Oson afora to qema ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias, to opoio syzhteitai sthn armodia Koinoboyleytikh Epitroph, qelw na kanw to ejhs sxolio: O poliths prepei na apolambanei ychloy epipedoy yphresies apo tis dhmosies epixeirhseis. O eqnikos aerometaforeas prepei na ginei sygxronos, antagwnistikos kai ajiopistos. Gi' ayto apotelei prwtarxiko stoxo mas h ejygiansh ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias. H protash ths Kybernhshs dinei plhrh apanthsh sto aithma gia ejygiansh ths megalhs ayths dhmosias epixeirhshs. Enocei toy Pasxa kai ths toyristikhs periodoy, opws exw anakoinwsei kai alles fores, h Kybernhsh epiqymei na oloklhrwqei to syntomotero dynato h chfish toy nomosxedioy, prokeimenoy na teqei se efarmogh.

O Proedros ths Boylhs, meta apo synennohseis, diabebaiwse oti thn erxomenh ebdomada qa oloklhrwqei h chfish toy nomosxedioy. Katopin toytoy, h syzhthsh sthn Olomeleia kai h chfish ths protashs ths Kybernhshs, qa oloklhrwqei thn epomenh ebdomada. Se ayth thn periptwsh, isxyei o desmeytikos kanonas ths kommatikhs peiqarxias. H stash ayth ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas toy PASOK apotelei kai ena mhnyma ths omofwnhs kai omoqymhs prospaqeias mas gia thn ejyphrethsh toy dhmosioy symferontos, gia th swthria kai thn anaptyjh toy eqnikoy aerometaforea, gia thn peraiterw ejygiansh twn epixeirhsewn koinhs wfeleias, prokeimenoy na antapokriqoyn sthn apostolh toys kai na prosferoyn poiotikes yphresies stoys Ellhnes polites.

* Shmera tiqetai se efarmogh h lista farmakwn. H apofash ayth dhmosieyqhke ton Ianoyario toy 1998. Yphrje o aparaithtos xronos, prokeimenoy oi endiaferomenoi na enhmerwqoyn gia thn efarmogh ayths ths politikhs mas. H lista farmakwn isxyei se oles tis prohgmenes xwres. Sygkrothqhke meta apo meleth eidikhs epitrophs, ypo ton kaqhghth k. Moytsopoylo. Dinetai h dynatothta stoys asfalismenoys, se oloys toys polites, na exoyn to farmako poy toys einai aparaithto. Antimetwpizoyme to fainomeno ths polyfarmakias, to opoio dhmioyrgei blabh gia thn ygeia twn politwn, otan me anejelegkto tropo parexontai farmaka, ta opoia se megalo baqmo, opws exoyn apodeijei kai prosfates meletes, den xrhsimopoioyntai apo aytoys poy ta exoyn promhqeytei. To prohgoymeno etos, h dapanh gia thn katanalwsh farmakwn sthn Ellada eftase to ycos twn 600 disekatommyriwn draxmwn, peripoy to 2% toy Akaqaristoy Egxwrioy Proiontos. H tomh ayth, h opoia ginetai to prwton sthn patrida mas, ejygiainei to xwro ayto. Pisteyoyme oti qa stefqei me epityxia.

* Shmera synexisthke sto Zappeio, me th symmetoxh ekproswpwn twn xwrwn poy symmetexoyn sthn prwtoboylia, thn kaloymenh Royaumont, h Diaskech gia thn kalh geitonia, th staqerothta kai thn asfaleia sth Notioanatolikh Eyrwph. Sth Diaskech, h opoia filojeneitai sthn patrida mas, eixa thn eykairia na anaptyjw to qema poy afora th symbolh twn Meswn Enhmerwshs sthn empedwsh synqhkwn staqerothtas, asfaleias, katanohshs kai kalhs geitonias kai na diatypwsw thn idea ths yioqethshs enos mnhmonioy gia th deontologia h ton tropo me ton opoio ta Mesa Enhmerwshs, stis xwres ths perioxhs, mporoyn kai prepei na symbaloyn sthn empedwsh aytwn twn synqhkwn filias kai synergasias, sebasmoy kai kalhs geitonias. H protash ayth qa syzhthqei sthn epomenh Diaskech, prokeimenoy na parei to xarakthra kai Prwtokolloy. Qewroyme oti h symbolh mas se aytes tis diadikasies einai xarakthristikh, diakrinetai. Eimaste h monh xwra poy anhkoyme se ayth thn perioxh kai taytoxronws exoyme thn idiothta ths xwras-meloys ths E.E., sto plaisio ths opoias anaptyssetai ayth h prwtoboylia. O rolos mas, loipon, einai idiaiteros.

Ayta hqela se poly genikes grammes na pw, sthn arxh.

KIAOS: Dinete mia entypwsh oti to mprifingk pleon exei jestratisei. Einai xwros kybernhtikwn anakoinwsewn, propagandas, opws qelete peste to. To mprifingk exei "jexeilwsei" para poly, enw einai ena steno, syntomo pragma.

REPPAS: Poly xairomai poy to lete. Eyxomai na eiste synepeis se ayta ta opoia lete.

KIAOS: Egw, apo thn pleyra moy, eimai.

REPPAS: Oper edei deijai. Idoy!

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti ekane ton Prwqypoyrgo na qesei qema kommatikhs peiqarxias; Fobatai oti den qa ton chfisoyn oi boyleytes toy;

REPPAS: To qema ths kommatikhs peiqarxias tiqetai gia na doqei ena mhnyma pros thn koinh gnwmh, na doqei ena mhnyma pros oles tis pleyres oti h Koinoboyleytikh Omada toy PASOK exei omoqymh stash, prokeimenoy na ejyphrethqei to meizon agaqo, poy einai to dhmosio symferon. Kai to dhmosio symferon, sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh, epiballei thn ejygiansh ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias, me tropo apofasistiko, apotelesmatiko, se syntomo xrono, mia kai opws eipa, eimaste enocei toy Pasxa kai akoloyqei h qerinh toyristikh periodos. Ta qemata ayta, loipon, gia thn Olympiakh Aeroporia qa eprepe na exoyn antimetwpistei kai lyqei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pws emfanizetai h omoqymh qesh; Me to boyrdoyla;

REPPAS: Qa ekdhlwqei kata thn chfish ths sygkekrimenhs nomoqetikhs prwtoboylias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Me poio dikaiwma h Olympiakh edwse se filo toy Prwqypoyrgoy 25 ekatommyria gia ergasia 10 hmerwn;

REPPAS: Den yparxei kanena tetoio qema kai parakalw poly mhn anaferete ...

STAMATOPOYLOS: Tsoytziarakhs legetai, Gewrgios Tsoytziarakhs ... Ton jerete;

REPPAS: Sas parakalw para poly. Qa exete apanthseis gia ola ayta ta qemata kai apo th Dioikhsh ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias. Den einai to qema etsi opws to qetete eseis kai aytos o plagios tropos na ginetai stoxos o Prwqypoyrgos, me entexno tropo, parakalw na apofeygetai.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Melos twn ergazomenwn poy metexei sto Dioikhtiko Symboylio eipe ayto to pragma.

REPPAS: Den antapokrinetai sthn alhqeia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den phre 25 ekatommyria; Den ton gnwrizei o k. Shmiths, kaqoloy;

REPPAS: Kyrie Kiao, ayto einai to mprifingk. Ayth einai h enhmerwsh, loipon. Kyrie Stamatopoyle, edwsa apanthsh.

MIXAHL: Qelw na sas rwthsw to ejhs: Ti shmainei kommatikh peiqarxia, to katanooyme oloi. To pneyma einai to ejhs oti to sygkekrimeno nomosxedio ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias den xreiazetai apolyth pleiochfia ths Boylhs gia na egkriqei. Synepws, kommatikh peiqarxia shmainei oti oloi, oi 162 boyleytes, qa prepei na chfisoyn to nomosxedio ayto h kommatikh peiqarxia shmainei oti prepei na chfistei to nomosxedio opws kai an exei;

REPPAS: Qesate ena poly swsto qema. Gi' ayto akribws ki egw milwntas gia thn kommatikh peiqarxia den th synedesa me thn ejasfalish ths pleiochfias, doqentos oti h pleiochfia mporei na ejasfalistei me ariqmo poly mikrotero ths apaitoymenhs pleiochfias epi toy synoloy twn boyleytwn. Milhsa gia kommatikh peiqarxia, thn opoia synedesa eyqews me to mhnyma to opoio prepei na steilei h Koinoboyleytikh Omada toy PASOK me thn koinh stash ths.

KACAMPELHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, dhladh, qelete na epibalete thn koinh stash, dioti einai profanes oti den yparxei koinh stash kai yparxoyn entonotates diafwnies, ap' oti fainetai kai apo tis dhlwseis. Ena erwthma einai ayto. Kai to deytero: Hqela na mas peite, dioti akoysa kai ton Ypoyrgo Metaforwn na dhlwnei, xqes, oti anhkoyn sthn istoria, alla den katalaba se poia istoria anhkoyn, ta osa eginan to 1996-1997, sthn O.A. epi kybernhsews toy k. Shmith. To 51% twn ayjhsewn poy doqhke apo poia Kybernhsh doqhke; Poia Kybernhsh exei thn politikh eyqynh gia to 51% twn ayjhsewn poy doqhkan to 1996-97;

REPPAS: Oson afora to prwto erwthma, den prokyptei apo poyqena kai kaqe allo para profanes einai to ti qa chfisoyn oi boyleytes. Bebaiws exoyn ginei dhlwseis, bebaiws, exoyn ekfrastei apoceis, alla den exei prokycei apo opoiondhpote me safhneia sygkekrimenh qesh h topoqethsh, oson afora thn chfo gia to sygkekrimeno nomosxedio. Ayto einai profanes. Deyteron, oson afora to qema twn ayjhsewn exw apanthsei se polla erwthmata poy teqhkan gia to qema ayto, tis teleytaies hmeres. Sas parapempw stis apanthseis poy exw dwsei. Epeidh den hsastan parwn, mporeite na deite ta praktika twn prohgoymenwn hmerwn, gyrw apo ayto to qema.

KACAMPELHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, epeidh epikaleiste kai th deontologia, edw, gia to briefing kai epeidh prepei na leme ta pragmata me to onoma toys: Eiste se qesh na mas dwsete twra mia safh apanthsh h qelete me ypekfyges na mhn apanthsete;

REPPAS: Hmoyn panta se qesh na dwsw ayth thn apanthsh, thn opoia exw dwsei para polles meres poy apoysiazete eseis apo thn politikh enhmerwsh.

KACAMPELHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, epanerxomai: An to problhma sas einai an apoysiazw h den apoysiazw qa to syzhthsoyme allh wra. Egw sas lew....

REPPAS: Den einai kaqoloy problhma. Kaqe allo. Giati to qetete ayto, gia na dhmioyrghsete kapoia entypwsh; Kanena problhma den exw. Eipa oti gia to qema ayto, to opoio exei teqei kat' epanalhch, exw dwsei apanthseis. Den qetete kapoio kainoyrgio qema kai parapempw stis apanthseis poy exw dwsei.

KACAMPELHS: Pws den qetw! Lew pws o Ypoyrgos Metaforwn dhlwse, xqes to brady, oti to qema toy 51% kata meso oro poy doqhke, anhkei sthn istoria. Kai egw lew: Se poia istoria anhkei; Qelete na mas ejhghsete; Einai qema istoriko h einai qema politiko;

REPPAS: Kyrie Kacampelh, exw apanthsei me leptomereies kai para polles fores se tetoia erwthmata. Akribws se tetoia erwthmata.

PARIS: Exw na ypobalw dyo erwthseis. H prwth erwthsh einai ean h Kybernhsh einai diateqeimenh na ypanaxwrhsei se basika arqra toy nomosxedioy, opws einai oi ergasiakes sxeseis, to pagwma twn misqwn kai alla shmantika. Apanthste moy s' ayto kai qa epanelqw.

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh pisteyei pws orismenes basikes diatajeis poy apoteloyn kai th spondylikh sthlh ayths ths nomoqetikhs prwtoboylias, prepei na parameinoyn ws exoyn giati apoteloyn thn "Lydia liqo" gia thn ejygiansh ths O.A.

PARIS: Th deyterh erwthsh thn exw janakanei. Qa hqela na rwthsw ean h Kybernhsh qa parei kapoia prwtoboylia gia politikes eyqynes twn kata kairoys Ypoyrgwn Metaforwn kai -apo kei kai pera- twn Dioikhsewn ths O.A. oson afora ta 700 disekatommyria poy exoyn xaqei. Einai para polla lefta, kyrie Ypoyrge. Kai oi Ypoyrgoi Metaforwn apo para-para polla xronia, otan toys exei teqei ayto to erwthma, syggnwmh gia thn ekfrash, "poylane trela". O enas ta rixnei ston allo me ypekfyges k.lp. Einai para polla xrhmata, ta opoia ta plhrwse o ellhnikos laos. Ti qa ginei me ayto; Qa yparjoyn kapoies eyqynes, qa apodoqoyn;

REPPAS: Kyrie Paris, gia to qema ayto exoyme milhsei kai nomizw oti eseis exete qesei analogo erwthma. Kai exw pei oti, bebaiws kai to PASOK kai h dikh mas Kybernhsh exei to diko ths meridio eyqynhs, gia to oti h O.A. brisketai shmera sth katastash sthn opoia brisketai. Milhsa gia to plaisio aytonomias sto opoio kineitai h Dioikhsh mias Dhmosias Epixeirhshs, otan lambanei tis apofaseis gia th Dhmosia Epixeirhsh. Kai bebaiws, ayto to opoio exei pantote shmasia einai na doyme shmera poio einai to xreos, ti einai ayto to opoio prepei na kanoyme, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisoyme to zeon problhma. Ayto einai telika poy exei shmasia. Kai ayto to opoio h Kybernhsh apofasise na prowqhsei sth Boylh, mesw aytwn twn ryqmisewn, pisteyoyme oti antapokrinetai stis anagkes twn kairwn gia th swthria ths O.A.

SOYRMELIDHS: Ti odhghse sthn allagh toy xronoy syzhthshs kai sthn allagh gia to "katepeigon"; Giati yphrje kai to aithma apo toys 16 boyleytes gia to qema toy "katepeigon". Poio htan to skeptiko poy prytaneyse sthn Kybernhsh gia na allajei ton xrono kai th diadikasia;

REPPAS: H syzhthsh poy ginetai gia to programma ejygianshs ths O.A. den ginetai se keno xronoy, ginetai mia orismenh stigmh, h opoia brisketai liges hmeres prin apo to Pasxa kai enocei ths toyristikhs periodoy. Gi ayto, loipon, h Kybernhsh epiqymoyse, kai to ekane safes apo thn arxh, to syntomotero dynato na oloklhrwqei h epichfish aytwn twn ryqmisewn, prokeimenoy na efarmostei o nomos. O Proedros ths Boylhs, sto plaisio twn synennohsewn -poy pantote ginontai se aytes tis periptwseis- diabebaiwnei oti entos ths epomenhs ebdomadas, syntomotata dhladh, opws epiqymei kai h Kybernhsh, qa oloklhrwqei h syzhthsh kai h chfish toy sxetikoy nomosxedioy. Katopin toytoy pisteyoyme oti exoyme to xroniko periqwrio na diateqoyn aytes oi liges, akomh, hmeres prokeimenoy na syzhthqei to nomosxedio kai na chfistei.

MOYRTZHS: To erwthma moy einai, mhpws yphrje mia eswterikh dieyqethsh, mia paraskhniakh syndiallagh sto qema ths kommatikhs peiqarxias dioti etsi kai o Prwqypoyrgos dieykolynetai kai paresxete alloqi stoys 16 boyleytes gia na yperchfisoyn telika to nomosxedio kai na ta exoyn kala me thn eklogikh toys bash.

REPPAS: Anaptyjate mia oloklhrh analysh me poly liga logia. Prepei na sas pw oti aytes einai ermhneies kai sxolia sta opoia eiste eleyqeroi na probainete. Ayto to opoio, omws, egw epanalambanw einai to oti h kommatikh peiqarxia syndeetai me thn koinh stash poy prepei na anadeijei h Koinoboyleytikh Omada toy PASOK, ws mhnyma gia thn apofasistikothta mas na proaspisoyme to dhmosio symferon poy, metajy twn allwn, odhgei sto na ejygianoyme shmera thn O.A.

SKOYRHS: Thn prwtoboylia gia thn anabolh, thn oloklhrwsh ths syzhthshs thn epomenh ebdomada thn eixe h Kybernhsh h o Proedros ths Boylhs;

REPPAS: Thn prwtoboylia thn eixe h Kybernhsh h opoia brhke prosforo edafos sth diabebaiwsh poy edwse o Proedros ths Boylhs, oti pragmati entos ths epomenhs ebdomadas qa oloklhrwqei ayth h diadikasia.

SKOYRHS: Giati ayth th diabebaiwsh den mporoyse na thn exei parei ws twra; Yparxei problhma sxediasmoy, synennohshs;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete para poly kala oti shmera jekinhse sthn armodia Koinoboyleytikh Epitroph h syzhthsh epi toy nomosxedioy. Kaqws h syzhthsh ayth ejelissetai, logiko einai na anakyptoyn qemata, ta opoia den einai dynaton na mas afhsoyn adiaforoys. Briskomaste apenanti se ena egxeirhma dyskolo. Xreiazetai oi xeirismoi, oi opoio qa ginoyn, na einai ypeyqynoi, alla kai apotelesmatikoi. Den eimaste dogmatikoi kai akamptoi. Syzhtoyme ypo to prisma na ejyphrethsoyme to meizona skopo: Na ejygianqei h O.A. Den qa qysiasoyme thn oysia stoys typoys.

SKOYRHS: Se periptwsh poy boyleytes parabiasoyn thn kommatikh peiqarxia, fantazomai oti qa yparxoyn poines. Einai to amesws epomeno otan qetoyme qema kommatikhs peiqarxias.

REPPAS: Giati prepei na kanoyme ypoqeseis ayth thn wra; Otan egw milw gia thn omofwnh kai omoqymh stash ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas, eseis mporei na perimenete mia diaforetikh stash apo kapoioys boyleytes. Egw, omws, dikaioymai na isxyrizomai oti ayto den einai piqano na symbei. Ara, den einai logiko na mpoyme ayth thn wra se ayth th dielkystinda.

SKOYRHS: Qa hqela na synexisw ligo thn erwthsh toy k. Kacampelh. To prohgoymeno programma ejygianshs proeblepe oti thn eyqynh toy elegxoy, ana trimhno, askoyn ta ypoyrgeia Eqnikhs Oikonomias kai Metaforwn. Ara, giati mono eyqynes sth Dioikhsh ths O.A. -an katalaba kala- kai oxi kai politikes eyqynes;

REPPAS: Jerete poly kala oti milhsa -kai oxi gia prwth fora shmera- gia tis eyqynes kai ths Kybernhshs toy PASOK. Kai gnwrizete poly kala oti stis diadikasies elegxoy den exoyn rolo mono oi epopteyoyses arxes, alla kai ta organa ths E.E. ta opoia symfwnhsan se ayto to programma ejygianshs. Kai bebaiws, to programma ayto den oloklhrwqhke, den eixe thn ejelijh poy qa eprepe na exei. Den prepei, omws, ayto na apotelei to shmeio anaforas, kaqws jekina mia nea prospaqeia gia thn ejygiansh ths O.A. Ayto to opoio prepei shmera na sygkentrwsei to endiaferon mas einai to an einai plhrhs oi ryqmiseis aytes, wste na odhghsoyn thn O.A. se ena kalytero mellon. Ayto einai poy exei shmasia. Loipon, exw apanthsei stis ejhs erwthseis poy exoyn ginei gi ayto to qema: -Poios exei eyqynes. -An analambanei kapoios tis politikes eyqynes. -An einai eyqynes ths Dioikhshs ths O.A. h ths Kybernhshs. -An qa laboyme kapoies alles prwtoboylies gia na apodwsoyme aytes tis eyqynes. Exw apanthsei me megales leptomereies, se ola ayta ta qemata.

GKOGKAS: Ayth h mikrh anabolh poy eipate twn ligwn hmerwn, den erxetai se plhrh antiqesh me osa legate prin apo liges hmeres oti den exoyme periqwria na filologoyme, dioti kaqe mera poy pernaei afairoyme ojygono apo thn "Olympiakh Aeroporia";

REPPAS: Gi' ayto akribws eixame ayth thn topoqethsh, en ocei toy Pasxa kai ths toyristikhs periodoy, to syntomotero dynato, na oloklhrwqei ayth h diadikasia. Pisteyoyme, oti liges akomh hmeres den apoteloyn mia toso megalh epibarynsh sthn ejygiantikh prospaqeia poy kanoyme, wste se ena poly kalytero klima, otan ginoyn akomh perissotero katanohtes oi qeseis poy proteinoyme gia thn ejygiansh ths O.A. qa proxwrhsoyme sthn chfish ayths ths sxetikhs protashs.

KIAOS: Ti allaje apo xqes to meshmeri mexri shmera;

REPPAS: Den eipa xqes to meshmeri oti ayrio Pempth qa oloklhrwqei h chfish toy nomosxedioy. Eipa oti to syntomotero dynato epiqymoyme na oloklhrwqei ayth h diadikasia. To syntomotero dynato einai mia sxetikh ennoia. Pisteyoyme kai to ejhghsa shmera oti oi liges aytes hmeres paratashs ths syzhthshs den apoteloyn epibaryntiko paragonta, o opoios na exei apotelesmata blaptika gia to ejygiantiko egxeirhma. KIAOS: Epeidh rwthsate kapws rhtorika nomizw, h diadikasia sth Boylh toy katepeigontos qa phgaine ayrio kai entos eji wrwn qa eixe teleiwsei. Para poly aplo.

REPPAS: Eipa oti to qema syzhteitai sthn armodia koinoboyleytikh epitroph. Ekei einai h katejoxhn koinoboyleytikh diadikasia, opoy tiqentai ola ta qemata. Oles oi alles diadikasies exoyn ena xarakthra oionei eswkommatiko.

KIAOS: Sto nomosxedio yparxei diatajh poy parapempei ston anagkastiko nomo toy '67 gia tis periptwseis twn ergazomenwn poy qa kanoyn to a' h to b'. Giati parapempei se ayton ton anagkastiko nomo toy '67, ths diktatorias, kai den qespizei mia kainoyrgia diatajh;

REPPAS: Giati oi diatajeis toy 173/67 exoyn isxysei se analoges periptwseis kai pisteyoyme oti h periptwsh ths O.A. gia thn kathgoria twn ergazomenwn poy qa apoxwrhsoyn apo thn epixeirhsh prepei na antimetwpistei me ayton ton kanona. Den einai dynaton, kai exei diatypwqei ena analogo aithma, opoioi apoxwrhsoyn apo thn O.A. na exoyn apozhmiwseis poly megaloy ycoys, san aytes poy doqhkan sto programma ths eqeloysias ejodoy, doqentos, oti an proxwroysame se mia tetoia ryqmish tote h O.A., oxi apla qa adynatoyse na antapokriqei se ayth thn ypoxrewsh, thn opoia qewrhtika mono qa mporoyse na analabei, alla qa miloysame pleon gia mia megalh "trypa" sto dhmosio elleimma. Den einai dynaton, loipon, na yphrxe allh proseggish se ayto to qema.

KIAOS: Epeidh sthn idia apanthsh o synadelfos sas epi twn Metaforwn, xqes, se kapoia thleoptikh emfanish toy eipe oti "ma einai h yfistamenh nomoqesia". H erwthsh h dikh moy einai oti bebaiws yparxei ayth h ryqmish ws ta twra, alla apo th stigmh poy kanete nomo poy allazei ta pragmata, giati den allazei kai h yfistamenh nomoqesia epi toy prokeimenoy kai paramenete proskolhmmenoi se ayto to xoyntiko nomo, ton anagkastiko nomo toy '67;

REPPAS: Einai enas nomos, o opoios exei isxysei se polles analoges periptwseis, epi polla xronia. To programma ejygianshs ths O.A., metajy twn allwn, problepei peristolh twn dapanwn kai ths spatalhs sthn O.A.. Den mporei na odhgei di' allhs odoy sth diaqesh toso megalwn, astronomikwn poswn gia ta dedomena ths O.A., pragma to opoio qa odhgoyse se adiejodo to egxeirhma ths ejygianshs ths etaireias. Paramenei o nomos ws exei. Den yparxei opoiadhpote apofash gia allagh toy nomikoy plaisioy, oson afora to sygkekrimeno zhthma.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Xqes, o k. Kastanidhs, prwhn Ypoyrgos Metaforwn, eipe sthn armodia epitroph toy PASOK poy syzhteito to qema, oti otan htan ypoyrgos to programma ejygianshs to eixe egkrinei h armodia epitroph ths E.E.. Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio panw se ayto;

REPPAS: Kanena sxolio. Den einai dynato na sxoliazw tis apoceis twn stelexwn toy PASOK. O k. Kastanidhs, ws armodios ypoyrgos, afoy leei oti pragmatika ta organa ths Koinothtas eixan egkrinei to programma kai eixan symfwnhsei gia thn ejelijh toy, etsi einai ta pragmata. Apo ekei kai pera yparxoyn kai ta ariqmhtika stoixeia, ta opoia deixnoyn oti h O.A. den mporei na synexisei na leitoyrgei katw apo ayto to oikonomiko kaqestws. Kai gi' ayto akribws probainoyme se aytes tis allages.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Afhse na ennohqei stis dhlwseis toy oti h Kybernhsh eskemmena, ayto einai diko moy sxolio, kathgorei to prohgoymeno programma ejygianshs, profanws gia na proxwrhsei se mia merikh idiwtikopoihsh. Yparxei tetoio qema:

REPPAS: Den yparxei opoiadhpote Kybernhsh, h opoia exei logoys na kathgorei ton eayto ths. To antiqeto, synhqws, symbainei. Kai gia tis Kybernhseis, alla kai gia ta politika kommata sto synolo toys. Ayto to opoio exei diapistwqei einai oti h O.A. exei perielqei se oikonomiko adiejodo kai telma kai gi' ayto akribws qa prepei na analhfqei h prwtoboylia, poy anelhfqh apo thn Kybernhsh, prokeimenoy na swqei o eqnikos aerometaforeas. Ayto kanoyme.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Gia th nomoqetikh ryqmish den moy lete.

REPPAS: Den yparxei tetoio qema. H nomoqetikh prwtoboylia sthn opoia exoyme proxwrhsei gnwrizete poly kala ti perilambanei. Ayth einai h politikh mas. Den yparxei tipota pera apo ayta poy exoyme kataqesei mesw ths ryqmishs ayths.

KIAOS: Dhladh, teleiwse to qema ths O.A., pleon, meta to nomosxedio ayto;

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti qa oloklhrwqei me epityxia to programma ths ejygianshs, ef' oson efarmostei o nomos, o opoios tis epomenes hmeres qa chfistei.

KIAOS: Den qa exoyme allo metro kanena; Ayto ennow.

REPPAS: Ti allo metro na exoyme; Qeloyme na kanoyme thn O.A. mia ygih, antagwnistikh kai ajiopisth dhmosia epixeirhsh.

KWNSTANTHS: Pali sto qema ths kommatikhs peiqarxias qelw na epanelqw. Oi opoies kyrwseis endexetai na epiblhqoyn se aytoys poy qa katachfisoyn to nomosxedio h qa aforoyn ki ekeinoys toys boyleytes poy qa epilejoyn na aposxoyn apo thn chfoforia; Se ena allo komma to eidate pws xeiristhkan to qema.

REPPAS: Den xreiazetai ayth thn wra na kanoyme ypoqeseis. Qelete na kanoyme analyseis me bash diafora senaria peri toy ti einai piqano na ginei. Nomizw oti kalo einai na to apofygoyme twra gia polloys logoys. Dioti, o kaqenas mporei na epimenei, oxyrwmenos se mia qesh, se mia analysh, se mia ypoqesh, me apotelesma na mhn einai dynato na diejaxqei dialogos. Den prokyptei kapoio stoixeio enhmerwshs, allwste, apo enan tetoio dialogo.

ELENOPOYLOS: Qelw na synexisw sthn erwthsh toy k. Kiaoy. Yparxei mia epishmansh, arketwn paragontwn ths politikhs zwhs. Epishmainw enan, ton k. Mano, o opoios leei oti einai to endexomeno na prosfygoyn osoi apolyqoyn h den dextoyn to neo kaqestws sth Dikaiosynh, na dikaiwqoyn kai na anagkasteite na toys proslabete ek neoy, me to analogo kostos, bebaiws, to oikonomiko. Ep' aytoy yparxei apo th dikh sas pleyra oristikh topoqethsh epi toy qematos;

KIAOS: San to prohgoymeno ths DEH.

REPPAS: Prepei na pw oti ola ayta ta qemata exoyn melethqei. Omws, qa moy epitrecete na pw oti den einai to idio me to fainomeno poy parathrhqhke sth DEH, wste na yparxei endexomeno epanalhchs toy sthn O.A.

KIAOS: Epeidh einai synafes. An exete ypoch sas thn enstash poy exei ypoballei o eyrwboyleyths toy SYN k. Alabanos, kata poso symbadizei me tis odhgies ths E.E;

REPPAS: Exoyme ypoch mas thn enstash. Pisteyoyme oti den einai dikaiologhmenh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ef' oson lete oti einai omoqymh h stash ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas, giati shmera antikatastaqhke o Proedros ths Koinoboyleytikhs Epitrophs, o k. Kanellopoylos, poy sthrize to nomosxedio kai oi k. Katsanebas kai Pipergias;

REPPAS: Hmoyn para poly sygkekrimenos kai qymoymai poly kala ti eipa. Milhsa gia thn omofwnh kai omoqymh stash twn boyleytwn, kata thn chfish, prokeimenoy h Koinoboyleytikh Omada me th stash ths ayth na steilei ena mhnyma. Apo ekei kai pera, sto plaisio twn koinoboyleytikwn diadikasiwn, yparxoyn periqwria na ginontai diafores dieyqethseis h allages, oi opoies einai symfwnes me ton Kanonismo kai den prepei apo aytes na ejagete politika symperasmata.

PARIS: En ocei twn diakopwn toy Pasxa kai ths qerinhs sezon poy jekinaei kai toso epikaleisqe, exete antimetwpisei to endexomeno mias mazikhs antidrashs twn ergazomenwn na mhn proselqoyn sthn ergasia toys, otan chfistei to nomosxedio, ypo morfhn apergias h opoioydhpote alloy tropoy; Kai to rwtaw ayto giati o proedros twn ergazomenwn eipe oti plhrwqhkan kanonika, xqes kai mexri to telos toy mhnos qa doyn ti qa kanoyn.

REPPAS: Yparxoyn oi antidraseis twn ergazomenwn tis opoies gnwrizete ki emeis katanooyme. Apo thn allh qa prepei na ginei sebasto to dikaiwma twn politwn, twn forologoymenwn Ellhnwn, na apolambanoyn apo thn O.A. yphresies ychloy epipedoy. Kai shmera h O.A. den mporei na antapokriqei se ayth thn apaithsh oswn dexontai tis yphresies ths. Ayto to opoio prepei na kanoyme oloi, h Kybernhsh alla kai oi ergazomenoi, o kaqenas me to diko toy tropo kai se plaisio synaineshs, einai na proxwrhsoyme, to syntomotero dynato, sthn oloklhrwsh ayths ths prospaqeias. Ayto perimenoyme apo toys ergazomenoys, oi opoioi gnwrizoyn thn problhmatikh katastash ths O.A. kai polloi ej aytwn exoyn milhsei gia thn kakodaimonia ths. Me ayth thn ennoia qa prepei na deijoyn sthn prajh pleon oti symballoyn sthn prospaqeia gia thn ejygiansh ths epixeirhshs.

PARIS: Prosblepoyme kai se analoges nomoqetikes ryqmiseis kai gia tis ypoloipes DEKO, an exoyn to idio problhma, giati o k. Papantwnioy ekane kapoia anafora;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete para poly kala oti otan syzhthqhke to qema ths diadikasias gia thn allagh toy genikoy kanonismoy proswpikoy twn DEKO, orisame ena eidiko tropo antimetwpishs toy problhmatos aytoy, oson afora thn O.A., thn opoia diaforopoihsame apo tis alles DEKO, gia logoys oi opoioi einai faneroi kai aytonohtoi. Bebaiws, kai gia tis alles dhmosies epixeirhseis qa analhfqoyn prwtoboylies, prokeimenoy na proxwrhsoyme stis aparaithtes diarqrwtikes allages sth domh kai th leitoyrgia toys, wste na katastoyn perissotero antagwnistikes. Ayth einai h politikh thn opoia exoyme ejaggeilei kai qa thn thrhsoyme.

PARIS: Epitrecte moy kai kati teleytaio, epeidh den moy apanthsate sthn prwth erwthsh. Epeidh einai poly syntomos o xronos mexri tis giortes toy Pasxa qa hqela na rwthsw ti qa kanete an exete tetoia antidrash. Qa epistrateysete toys ergazomenoys, qa toys apolysete kai qa kleisete thn etaireia; Poia qa einai h antidrash sas;

REPPAS: Epiqymoyme h etaireia na synexisei na leitoyrgei xwris diakoph. Den prepei na exei diakoph oyte mias wras, an einai dynaton. Ayto shmainei oti qa prepei na exei ana pasa stigmh to aparaithto proswpiko gia na leitoyrgei aproskopta. Qa kanoyme, loipon, ta panta wste na ejasfalisoyme thn paramonh twn ergazomenwn sthn O.A., gia na prosferoyn tis yphresies toys sthn etaireia. Apo ekei kai pera to nomosxedio problepei synoptikes diadikasies, prokeimenoy na apokthsei h O.A., ef' oson yparjoyn kena, to anqrwpino dynamiko poy xreiazetai gia na ejyphrethsei tis leitoyrgies ths. Kai ayto qa kanoyme.

KACAMPELHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, molonoti den sas einai eyxaristo, en toytois paradexeste oti yparxoyn eyqynes stoys prohgoymenoys Ypoyrgoys Metaforwn kai stis Dioikhseis ths O.A. gia osa eginan mexri kai to 1997; Giati den dexeste tote thn ejetastikh epitroph gia na maqei kai o ellhnikos laos poy phgan tosa disekatommyria poy bghkan apo thn tseph toy;

REPPAS: To qema ths ejetastikhs epitrophs qa syzhthqei dia ths gnwsths koinoboyleytikhs diadikasias, otan erqei h katallhlh wra. Ola ayta ta qemata exoyn apanthqei. Ayto to opoio endiaferei ton ellhniko lao einai, bebaiws, na exei mia kybernhsh apenanti toy h opoia toy milaei th glwssa ths alhqeias kai peran aytoy na exei mia kybernhsh h opoia tolma, exei sygkekrimeno sxedio kai proxwra se oles ekeines tis tomes kai prwtoboylies poy einai aparaithtes, prokeimenoy na anaptyxqoyn oi dhmosies epixeirhseis . Kai ayto ginetai sthn Olympiakh Aeroporia. Ayto endiaferei ton ellhniko lao. O ellhnikos laos gnwrizei poly kala, giati emeis milhsame me stoixeia analytika kai gia thn Olympiakh Aeroporia, to ti exei ginei . Kai qa mas krinei oloys.

Gnwrizw poly kala oti ta alla kommata akoloyqoyn asqmainontas para polles fores prwtoboylies ths kybernhshs. Tis krinoyn, tis sxoliazoyn, kanoyn skeceis, epishmanseis, tis dikes toys dhqen protaseis, alla den exoyn analabei opoiadhpote xrhsimh prwtoboylia, den exoyn diatypwsei, prwtogenws, kapoia protash gia na antimetwpisoyme kai na lysoyme ena apo ta problhmata poy apasxoloyn ton ellhniko lao kai thn ellhnikh koinwnia. Panta ej antanaklasews, stis prwtoboylies ths kybernhshs, kanoyn kapoia sxolia h topoqetoyntai analogws, me bash panta bebaiws thn kommatikh skopimothta toys. Alla antilambaneste pws yparxei mia terastia apostash anamesa sto ena kai to allo. Emeis anoigoyme dromoys, proxwroyme, anagnwrizoyme ta laqh poy exoyn ginei, diorqwnoyme thn poreia mas. Kai ekei poy prepei ta pragmata na ta beltiwsoyme pros to kalytero pairnoyme tis apofaseis poy einai aparaithtes gia na paei o topos mprosta.

KACAMPELHS : Kyrie Ypoyrge, ena aplo laqos einai oti dwsate ayjhseis poy tinajan ston aera thn Olympiakh;

REPPAS: Kyrie Kacampelh, gia to qema ayto syzhthsame kai prepei na sas pw oti oso anadeiknyete ayto to qema toso perissotero stelnete ena mhnyma ston ellhniko lao. Gia mena den einai dysaresto na stelnete kai eseis ayto to mhnyma, oti dhladh yparxoyn polyteleis ergasiakes sxeseis se mia dhmosia epixeirhsh kai ara dikaiologeitai ek twn pragmatwn h kybernhsh na parembei gia na apokatasthsei tis prepoyses isorropies.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Lete kai janalete, k. Ypoyrge, oti se oti afora tis eyqynes gia to prohgoymeno ejygiantiko programma exoyn doqei apanthseis. Epeidh egw den exw katalabei an exei doqei apanthsh sto ejhs skelos, oloi aytoi stoys opoioys qa apodoqoyn oi eyqynes, poio einai to timhma twn eyqynwn, ti qa plhrwsoyn, dhladh, posoi ftaine; Sas kalw, epeidh prohgoymenws milhsate peri toy dikaiwmatos twn forologoymenwn politwn kai epeidh an diairesoyme ta 700 dis draxmes me kapoies alles ypoqeseis toy parelqontos, prokyptoyn 55 skandala Koskwta, apo ayth thn ypoqesh, na dwsete mia apanthsh poio qa einai to timhma aytwn oi opoioi qa analaboyn tis eyqynes, tis politikes estw, ap' ayth thn ypoqesh;

REPPAS: Kriths gia ola ayta einai o ellhnikos laos kai jerete oti oi forologoymenoi polites sympiptei na einai kai eklogeis, synhqws. Apo ekei kai pera to politiko timhma, giati peri aytoy prokeitai, qa to katabaloyn armodiws kai analogws aytoi poy exoyn tis antistoixes eyqynes. Allwste eseis, kyrie Mpogiopoyle, otan qetete to qema ths skandalologias peri ton Koskwta, gnwrizete poly kala poio einai to timhma poy plhrwsan aytoi oi opoioi efeyran th skandalologia, me apotelesma to PASOK, apo to 1993 na kybernhsei, kai pali ton topo me entolh toy ellhnikoy laoy. O ellhnikos laos ta parakoloyqei ola kai gnwrizei poly kala ti einai ayto to opoio, kaqe fora, prepei na kanei.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Ayto to opoio lete, dhladh, profanws pros ton ellhniko lao ...

REPPAS: Mhn me ermhneyete. Gracte to sthn efhmerida sas. Den xreiazontai edw opoiesdhpote ermhneies. Kante thn erwthsh sas.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Erwtw, loipon, kai apanthste epi ths erwthshs kai ths ermhneias. Lete pros ton ellhniko lao na proselqei stis epomenes ekloges san na proshrxeto se aiqoysa dikasthrioy gia na krinei tis politikes eyqynes twn kybernwntwn ; Ayto lete;

REPPAS: Leme ston ellhniko lao, pros toys polites, na proselqoyn stis ekloges kai afoy staqmisoyn ta dedomena, na kanoyn tis epiloges toys. Kaloyme ton ellhniko lao na parameinei makria apo diadikasies kai politikes staseis poy qeloyn na metabaloyn th dhmosia zwh toy topoy se ena mesaiwniko dikasthrio . Giati kapoioi -moy dinete thn eykairia na to pw- exoyn anakalycei teleytaia, th diadikasia twn mhnythriwn anaforwn h th synexh epiklhsh twn eisaggelikwn arxwn epeidh akribws steroyntai politikoy logoy kai den exoyn programmatikes qeseis. An qeloyn na metabaloyn thn politikh zwh toy topoy se mia tetoia mesaiwnikh diadikasia , emeis diafwnoyme. O ellhnikos laos , loipon, oi Ellhnes polites einai aytoi oi opoioi exoyn to logo. Ayto lew kai eseis den to dexeste.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Antiparerxomai to "eseis" ws rhtoriko kai erxomai sto deytero erwthma moy. Anaferqhkate se oikonomiko adiejodo kai se telma sthn Olympiakh. Sas askeitai kritikh oti oydepote h kybernhsh eixe proqesh na proxwrhsei ayton to legomeno ejygiantiko programma, dioti eixe ws pragmatikh proqesh na odhghsei ta pragmata se telma kai se oikonomiko adiejodo gia na proxwrhsei se aytes tis energeies stis opoies proxwrei shmera. Se ayth thn kritikh ti apantate;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh, antiqetws, eixe idiaitero endiaferon na ejygianei, metajy twn allwn, kai thn O.A. Kai gi' ayto akribws, epeidh den apedwse to programma ejygianshs, h Kybernhsh anelabe ayth thn prwtoboylia gia thn ejygiansh ths O.A. An h kybernhsh den eixe ayto to stoxo, thn ejygiansh ths O.A., den qa eixe kanena logo na deijei ayto to entono endiaferon kai na analabei ayth th nomoqetikh prwtoboylia, thn opoia analambanei, epeidh akribws exei ayto to idiaitero endiaferon gia thn ejygiansh.

ELENOPOYLOS : Hqela na rwthsw ean h shmerinh apofash toy Prwqypoyrgoy na anablhqei h syzhthsh sth Boylh poy eixe programmatistei gia ayth th bdomada kai na metateqei sthn epomenh, th gnwrize o Ypoyrgos Metaforwn kai efoson thn gnwrize , an symfwnoyse.

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti yphrjan synennohseis, diaboyleyseis kai telika sas anakoinwsa, ligh wra prin, poia einai h diadikasia sthn opoian katalhjame prokeimenoy na chfisqei sthn Olomeleia ths Boylhs to sygkekrimeno nomosxedio.

ELENOPOYLOS : Eipate oti o Prwqypoyrgos syzhthse me ton Ypoyrgo. Symfwnhse o Ypoyrgos;.

REPPAS: O Ypoyrgos asfalws symfwnhse. Alla sas eipa oti ayto egine meta apo kapoies diaboyleyseis kai proekyce ws apotelesma , ws aporroia, kapoia xronikh stigmh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate prohgoymenws oti kapoioi poy den exoyn politiko logo kai kanoyn mhnythries anafores. Gia toys Ypoyrgoys poy kanoyn mhnyseis se efhmerides gia na tis fimwsoyn, ti exete na peite;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete para poly kala oti kaqe poliths kai bebaiws kaqe Ypoyrgos, dikaioytai na ajiopoiei ta endika mesa poy parexei h nomoqesia mas prokeimenoy na yperaspisqei thn timh kai thn ypolhch toy otan qewrei oti qigetai. Einai dynaton na afhsoyme thn koinwnia mas na leitoyrgei xwris kanones; O Typos kanei th doyleia toy, oi politikoi kanoyn th doyleia toys kai h Dikaiosynh prepei epishs na kanei th doyleia ths.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati tote kathgoreite toys politikoys poy ekanan mhnythria anafora;

REPPAS: De nomizw oti eixe na antimetwpisei kapoio adikhma dysfhmishs h prosbolhs ths ajioprepeias kai ths proswpikothtas toy o k. Ebert, gia paradeigma, wste na probainei se tetoies energies. Isa - isa h kinhsh toy ypokryptei mia diaqesh na katasthsei to kratos mas, kratos dikastwn h en pash periptwsei na ypokatasthsei thn politikh me kapoies diadikasies oi opoies exoyn ena xarakthra poy -kata th dikh moy apoch- den qa prepei na diapneei thn politikh antiparaqesh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Otan emeinan 4,5 ekatommyria polites xwris fws, den yphrxe adikhma;

REPPAS: Ti na sas pw!! An qa prepei na kathgorhqoyn kapoioi giati eixame ayto to biaio kairiko fainomeno, giati eixame mia lailapa, mia qyella kai proklhqhkan parenergeies oi opoies antimetwpisqhkan ikanopoihtika - epanalambanw: antimetwpisqhkan ikanopoihtika- an qewreite oti kapoioi exoyn eyqynes gia ta kairika fainomena, tote exete dextei gia thn kybernhsh mas oti pleon den einai mia kybernhsh anqrwpwn alla mia "kybernhsh Qewn" kai ephreazei ta kairika fainomena. Den qelw na mas exete toso poly chla. Den to dexomai , giati antilambanomai oti se mia tetoia periptwsh h yperbolh sthn ektimhsh gia tis dynatothtes poy exoyme den antapokrinetai sthn pragmatikh apoch sas.

MOSXOBAS: Qa hqela na rwthsw me aformh dhlwsh poy feretai na exei kanei o Prwqypoyrgos se stenoys toys synergates, symfwna me thn opoia eipe oti "qa proxwrhsw aproskopta s' ayth th diadikasia giati exw, allwste, th laikh entolh". H deyterh apostrofh toy Prwqypoyrgoy exei na kanei kai me mia emmesh apeilh gia prowres ekloges;

REPPAS: Den yparxei opoiodhpote tetoio qema. An qelete sto plaisio ths Prwtaprilias na sas pw oti ginetai anasxhmatismos kai oti pame se ekloges, na sas to pw. Alla, mh sas apasxolei tetoio qema, giati emas den mas exei apasxolhsei. Oyte sth skech mas den yparxei kati tetoio.

MOSXOBAS: Epibebaiwnete th dhlwsh;

REPPAS: Ti na epibebaiwsw; Ma, edw den qa kanoyme syzhthsh epi twn koytsompoliwn ta opoia kykloforoyn. Oson afora to sygkekrimeno qema, o Prwqypoyrgos to exei jekaqarisei me safhneia, apantwntas se sxetikh erwthsh meta apo synedriash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy sto PASOK. Eipe oti "exw th dynatothta na kybernhsw kai qa kybernhsw me bash to Programma poy exw ws Prwqypoyrgos kai ws Kybernhsh gia na antimetwpisw ta problhmata ths xwras".

KIAOS: Ws kaq' ylh armodios Ypoyrgos Typoy, diabazw sto "PONTIKI" oti h Kybernhsh exei proxwrhsei sthn apofash na enopoihsei ta Tameia ths Enhmerwshs. Kai mas aforoyn emas sto xwro, alla kai toys alloys poy doyleyoyn. Eyqews: Exete parei apofash;

REPPAS: Den yparxei tetoio qema.

KIAOS: Oyte qa yparjei sto mellon, dhladh.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti h syzhthsh gia to asfalistiko problhma ths xwras, exei jekinhsei. H syzhthsh afora to legomeno "mikro paketo". Stoxos ths Kybernhshs einai na syzhthsoyme gia ta qemata anadiarqrwshs toy asfalistikoy systhmatos meta to 2000. Ta qemata ths enopoihshs twn Asfalistikwn Tameiwn exoyn teqei kata kairoys. Einai qemata ta opoia syzhtoyntai, den exoyn lhfqei apofaseis, oyte yparxoyn kapoioi oi opoioi exoyn katalhjei se ena sygkekrimeno symperasma, oson afora to zhthma ayto. KIAOS: Rwthsa sygkekrimena sto xwro twn Tameiwn twn ergazomenwn ston Tomea ths Enhmerwshs. Poy brisketai h syzhthsh gia thn enopoihsh twn Tameiwn;

REPPAS: Gia to qema ayto qa rwthsete ton armodio Ypoyrgo ...

KIAOS: Epeidh eiste o armodios Ypoyrgos Typoy.

REPPAS: Den exei shmasia ayto. O Yfypoyrgos Koinwnikwn Asfalisewn einai epi twn qematwn aytwn armodios. Alla sas eipa kai pali poia einai h genikh politikh mas. Syzhtoyme to "mikro paketo". Den tiqetai tetoio qema twra.

PARIS: O k. Tsakiridhs einai Proedros ths O.A.; Den paei sto grafeio toy, gi' ayto rwtw.

REPPAS: Eipa xqes kai epanalambanw oti o k. Tsakiridhs paramenei sth qesh toy kai askei ta kaqhkonta toy.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Meta th shmerinh ejelijh yparxei ektimhsh sthn Kybernhsh mhpws biasthke na kataqesei thn tropologia gia to nomosxedio sth Boylh;

REPPAS: Den biasthke h Kybernhsh na kataqesei to nomosxedio, doqentos oti htan programmatismenh h kataqesh toy nomosxedioy gia thn hmera poy katateqhke. Kai se teleytaia analysh h egkairh kataqesh toy nomosxedioy edwse th dynatothta na syzhthqei kai sto kommatiko koinoboyleytiko organo ston armodio KTE kai bebaiws, shmera sthn Koinoboyleytikh Epitroph, wste to syntomotero dynato na oloklhrwqei ayth h diadikasia. Eprepe na arxisei h syzhthsh egkairws gia na oloklhrwqei, epishs, sthn wra ths.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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