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BRIEFING 02-05-96

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://web.ariadne-t.gr/> - email: pegasus@compulink.gr

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS 2/5/96

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBENRHTIKO EKPROSWPO k. DHMHTRH REPPA

Kalhmera sas. Einai h prwth fora poy kaqysterw, to gnwrizete poly kala. Kai ayto ofeiletai kai pali se dhmosiografoys. Maqhtes bebaiws kai neoys oi opoioi eixan kapoia ekdhlwsh sta plaisia toy diagwnismoy poy kanei to Idryma Mpotsh gia thn proagwgh ths dhmosiografias. Erxomai apo ekei. Sas fernw ena synadelfiko mhnyma apo neoys synadelfoys sas.

* Gnwrizete oti o k. Prwqypoyrgos, epikefalhs kybernhtikoy klimakioy, arxizei shmera thn episkech toy sthn Perifereia Anatolikhs Makedonias kai Qrakhs. Pisteyoyme oti, sto plaisio ayths ths episkechs, qa yparjei dynatothta na doqei mia wqhsh sthn prospaqeia poy kataballei h Ellhnikh Politeia diaxronikws, gia thn ajiopoihsh twn anaptyjiakwn dynatothtwn ayths ths perioxhs ths xwras mas. H anaptyjh gia thn Perifereia Anatolikhs Makedonias kai Qrakhs einai, ektos twn allwn, eqnikh epitagh. Bebaiws, gia na epityxoyme apotelesmata apaiteitai sxediasmos kai systhmatikh prospaqeia se baqos xronoy. Pisteyoyme oti h episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai twn synadelfwn qa einai mia isxyrh parembash sthn ejelijh twn prospaqeiwn poy anaptyssei h Ellhnikh Politeia gia thn epiteyjh kalyterwn synqhkwn zwhs sthn perioxh ayth. Emeis qa eimaste edw na syzhtoyme. Kai ayto, epeidh dinei xara se oloys mas, as mh sterhqoyme th xara kai as jekinhsoyme amesws th syzhthsh mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Tis teleytaies hmeres ginetai oloklhrh fasaria me mia afissa. Ayth thn afissa thn exei bgalei to komma; Poios exei plhrwsei gi'aythn thn afissa;

REPPAS: Ayth h afissa exei bgei apo to Grafeio Epikoinwnias toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Exei th dynatothta. Kai sta plaisia ths epikoinwniakhs politikhs toy proxwrhse sthn ekdosh ayths ths afissas kai exei katabalei kai to analogoyn timhma. Th dapanh dhladh gia thn ekdosh ayths ths afissas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Apo ton kratiko proypologismo, dhladh;

REPPAS: Apo to Grafeio toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poso exei kostisei ayth h afissa;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw akribws ton ariqmo. Qa einai sth diaqesh sas amesws molis parw th sygkekrimenh plhroforia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: An qelete, na mas peite.

REPPAS: Bebaiws. Einai mikros o ariqmos, pantws, twn entypwn twn afisswn poy exoyn ekdoqei, kyrie Stamatopoyle. Kai to kostos - xwris na to prosdiorizw ayth thn wra - sas lew pantws oti einai mikro.

GARGALAKOS: Exei prokycei kapoio problhma stis sxeseis tis dikes sas me ton Prwqypoyrgo, kyrie Reppa; Giati blepoyme oti den akoloyqeite ton Prwqypoyrgo s'aythn thn periodeia toy.

REPPAS: Kyrie Gargalako, gnwrizete oti den exw labei meros se opoiadhpote episkech exei kanei sto eswteriko ths xwras mexri twra o Prwqypoyrgos h alloi Ypoyrgoi. Ayth einai h epilogh poy kaname eyqys ej arxhs sta plaisia leitoyrgias toy kybernhtikoy sxhmatos. Den htan programmatismeno dhladh - edw kai para polles hmeres exei ginei o programmatismos - na labw meros s'ayth thn episkech. Den yparxei kanena problhma. Kai prepei na sas pw oti prepei na symboyn pragmata ta opoia einai sto xwro toy apiqanoy gia na yparjei problhma apo meroys moy me ton k. Shmith. Tetoioy eidoys problhma poy ennoeite.

GARGALAKOS: Jerete an o Prwqypoyrgos exei zhthsei apo synergates toy na apexoyn apo to pedio ths eswkommatikhs sygkroyshs gia ena diasthma;

REPPAS: O k. Prwqypoyrgos exei pei kat'epanalhch oti einai epikefalhs mias prospaqeias poy kataballei o idios kai oi synergates toy - Ypoyrgoi kai symboyloi toy - kai exei stoxo (h prospaqeia ayth) thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn ths xwras. Ayto einai poy ton apasxolei.

MOYRTZHS: O k. Pasxalidhs, xqes kai shmera, zhthse thn paraithsh toy k. Papandreoy kai eipe oti aytos o idios einai yper mias kaqarhs lyshs kai se ena allo shmeio milhse peri "Kybernhshs Omospondiakhs". Loipon, rwtw: Egine me thn ephneysh kai th sygkataqesh toy Prwqypoyrgoy h protash toy k. Pasxalidh peri paraithshs Papandreoy; Kai apo posa kommatia apoteleitai h Kybernhsh toy PASOK wste na einai "Omospondiakh";

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh einai Kybernhsh toy PASOK. Einai eniaia Kybernhsh. Exei bgei gia na antimetwpisei ta megala problhmata ths xwras kai ayto kanei, pisteyw me tropo apotelesmati- ko. Apo ekei kai pera, o synadelfos ejefrase tis apoceis toy. Einai proswpikes apoceis, einai sebastes kai h Kybernhsh den tis sxoliazei. Opws den sxoliazei tis apoceis opoioydhpote synadelfoy - kommatikoy stelexoys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti ennoeite "sebastes", kyrie Ypoyrge;

REPPAS: Kaqe apoch se mia dhmokratikh koinwnia prepei na tygxanei ths analoghs prosoxhs kai toy sebasmoy, kyrie Stamatopoyle. Ektos an pisteyete oti prepei na yparxei apokleismos h periorismos sthn ekfrash twn apocewn. Emeis den to pisteyoyme ayto. Einai mia genikh arxh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Peri "Omospondiakhs Kybernhshs"...

REPPAS: Ma, eipa: Einai Kybernhsh PASOK, einai eniaia Kybernhsh kai antimetwpizei apotelesmatika ta problhmata toy topoy. Sto qema ayto apanthsa sthn arxh.

KACAMPELHS: Ara, ton apodokimazete ton k. Pasxalidh.

REPPAS: Den apodokimazw kanenan, giati aploystata den sxoliazw epi ths oysias tis apoceis. Den exw kanena logo oyte na epainesw oyte na apodokimasw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Einai aney oysias dhladh;

REPPAS: Tipote den einai aney oysias, kyrie Stamatopoyle.

KACAMPELHS: Xwris "gkrizes" diatypwseis, h Kybernhsh h shmerinh einai "Omospondiakh" h den einai;

REPPAS: Ma, apanthsa, kyrie Kacampelh, oti h Kybernhsh einai eniaia Kybernhsh, einai Kybernhsh toy PASOK, exei syllogikes dhmokratikes leitoyrgies kai antimetwpizei apotelesmatika - pisteyw, opws exei deijei sthn prajh - ta problhmata toy topoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mhpws o synadelfos sas den jerei se poia Kybernhsh metexei;

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, pairnete to logo xwris na ton zhtate. Qewreite oti exete ena pleonekthma enanti twn synadelfwn sas. Pisteyw oti einai katwtero ths nohmosynhs olwn mas na qewroyme oti kapoios einai kapoy xwris na gnwrizei ti einai ayto sto opoio einai. Mh qetete tetoia qemata. Asfalws gnwrizei oti einai melos ths Kybernhshs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Aytos to qetei.

REPPAS: Oyte stigmh. Kai oydeis.

MARDAS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o k. Shmiths otan ejelegh Prwqypoyrgos ekleise to Politiko toy Grafeio ston Peiraia. Fainetai, omws, oti diathrei to anepishmo Politiko Grafeio to opoio synedriase - symfwna me dhmosiografikes plhrofories - sto spiti toy k. Aygerinoy. Qelw na sas rwthsw mhpws apo edw kai pera qa prepei na anakoinwnontai tetoioy eidoys synanthseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia na exoyme kai emeis mia egkyrh plhroforhsh;

REPPAS: Kyrie Marda, den nomizw oti h koinwnikh zwh toy k. Shmith, toy Prwqypoyrgoy, mporei na apotelei pedio ejagwghs opoiwndhpote eidhsewn, poy exoyn gia sas endiaferon. O Prwqypoyrgos, o k. Shmiths, eixe, exei kai qa exei synanthseis. Einai enas anqrwpos opws oloi mas poy synantatai kai antallassei apoceis me alloys anqrwpoys. Ayto den einai ajioperier- go. Kai den katalabainw giati ginetai idiaiterh epishmansh se tetoia synanthsh sthn opoia kai eseis anaferqhkate.

MARDAS: Ayth h synanthsh den eixe sxesh me tis kybernhtikes drasthriothtes kai isws...

REPPAS: Apanthsa, hdh, kyrie Marda. O k. Prwqypoyrgos synergazetai kai me toys Ypoyrgoys toy, synergazetai kai me alla organa kybernhtika, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisei ta kybernhtika qemata. Parallhla, ws kommatiko stelexos, exei labei meros se synedriaseis toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy h ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs. O k. Shmiths paramenei, bebaiws, anqrwpos o opoios exei tis synanthseis toy tis polles kai tis pollaples.

MARDAS: Symmeteixe kai o k. Manikas. Syzhthqhke kai to qema twn narkwtikwn ekei;

REPPAS: Kyrie Marda, den nomizw oti stis parees, stis opoies eseis pairnete meros, opwsdhpote syzhtate qemata ta opoia einai sthn armodiothta h estw synafh me to antikeimeno me to opoio asxoleitai kapoios ek twn paristamenwn. Einai synanthseis opoy antallassontai genikes apoceis. Einai synanthseis oi opoies ginontai apo oloys toys anqrwpoys me filoys, me gnwstoys, me synergates kai stis opoies ginontai genikes syzhthseis.

MARDAS: Epeidh milate gia parees, oi dikes moy parees den exoyn thn idia barythta me tis synanthseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

REPPAS: Ti na kanoyme; Prepei na apologhqoyme kai gi'ayto; Gia to oti den eisqe eseis Prwqypoyrgos kai einai o k. Shmiths;

MARDAS: S'aytes tis synanthseis tiqetai qema gia thn ygeia toy Proedroy toy PASOK;

REPPAS: Apanthsame hdh. Einai synanthseis poy dikaioytai kai ej antikeimenoy, ek twn pragmatwn, exei o opoiosdhpote poliths. Eimaste koinwnika onta. Synantoyme alloys anqrwpoys.

POLITHS: Htan koinwnikoy xarakthra synanthsh; Etsi thn prosdiorizete;

REPPAS: Nomizete oti o k. Shmiths den epitrepetai na exei kai koinwnikoy xarakthra synanthseis;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Allo ayto. Rwtame an htan...

REPPAS: Asfalws.

GARGALAKOS: Ayto rwtame: An htan syskech h koinwnikh synanthsh.

REPPAS: Den htan syskech, kyrie Gargalako. To jekaqarisame apo thn arxh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, htan synexeia twn geymatwn poy ginontoysan, ayth h synanthsh;

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, den jerw an to endiaferon sas exei na kanei me to an einai geyma h oxi. Mhpws qelete na prosklhqeite, dhladh, se tetoioy eidoys gastrimargikes ekdhlwseis, mhpws eisqe geysignwsths kai qelete na bgalete ej aytoy symperasma. Nomizw omws oti den prepei na meinoyme allo s'ayto to qema. Dhladh, odhgoymaste pia se mia astynomeysh - qa elega - ths zwhs enos anqrwpoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Prwqypoyrgos einai, kyrie Ypoyrge.

REPPAS: Xairomai poy to anagnwrizete. Loipon, o k. Paris.

KACAMPELHS: Epi toy idioy, na ejantlhsoyme to qema.

REPPAS: Na ejantlhsoyme to qema, alla na mhn ejantlhsoyme th logikh.

LASKARIDHS: Sto idio qema: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o k. Shmiths, o k. Pagkalos, h kyria Basw Papandreoy kai o k. Aygerinos, se kata kairoys synenteyjeis toys, yposthrizan oti h kinhsh twn "tessarwn", einai kinhsh me politiko xarakthra kai kataqetei sygkekrimenes politikes protaseis. H nea ayth synanthsh jefyge entelws ap'ayton ton xarakthra kai epace pleon h kinhsh twn "tessarwn" na exei paragwgh politikwn protasewn;

REPPAS: Exw apanthsei, kyrie Laskaridh, sto sygkekrimeno qema. Kai prosdiorisa kai to xarakthra ayths ths synanthshs kai opoias allhs synanthshs exei o k. Prwqypoyrgos, ws Ellhn poliths.

KACAMPELHS: Mia dieykrinish: Apanthsate men, alla yparxei mia genikoterh aporia, an meta thn eklogh toy k. Shmith, oi "tessereis" - opws poly kala jeroyme oloi oti apokaloyntan - synexizoyn na leitoyrgoyn me ton idio tropo;

REPPAS: Den katalaba thn erwthsh sas.

KACAMPELHS: Einai poly safhs: O k. Shmiths prin eklegei Prwqypoyrgos, me thn parrhsia poy ton diakrinei, opws kai o k. Pagkalos kai h kyria Basw Papandreoy...

REPPAS: Mhn proxwrhsete, egine antilhpto.

KACAMPELHS: ... eixan sygkrothsei ena sxhma tessarwn stelexwn. Oloi to jeroyme ayto. Shmera, ti symbainei me ayto to sxhma;

REPPAS: Shmera, kyrie Kacampelh, o k. Shmiths einai pleon Prwqypoyrgos, oi alloi synadelfoi stoys opoioys anaferqhkate einai pleon Ypoyrgoi kai asxoloyntai me thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn sta plaisia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: (den akoygetai)

REPPAS: Parakalw! Den sxoliazoyme edw tis apoceis epi kommatikwn qematwn kai drasthrio- thtwn poy anaptyssoyn stelexh toy kommatos.

KARAMPASHS: Hqela na anaferqw sthn ekqesh toy STATE DEPARTEMENT gia thn tromokratia. Qa hqela na plhroforhqoyme: An yparxei sxolio ths Kybernhshs, kata poso qewrei oti prokeitai gia anamijh mias triths xwras sta eswterika ths Elladas. An h Kybernhsh sxoliazei thn apoch ths ekqeshs oti to P.K.K einai tromokratikh organwsh. Kai pws sxoliazei epishs to gegonos oti qewrei ws epityxia ths Eqnikhs Antitromokratikhs Yphresias, th syllhch kai katadikh toy Mpalafa;

REPPAS: H Ekqesh ayth, gnwrizete oti ekdidetai kaqe xrono. Einai ena eswteriko eggrafo twn Hnwmenwn Politeiwn. Thn exoyme ypoch mas. To sxolio poy exoyme na kanoyme, afoy dieykrinisw prin oti einai isxyrismoi ths Toyrkias aytoi oi opoioi anaferontai peri ths ypoqalchs ths drasthriothtas energeiwn Koyrdwn apo thn Ellada, isxyrismoi oi opoioi einai kata bash sykofantikoi, kai toys aporriptoyme giati den exoyn antikrysma alhqeias. Emeis diabebaiwnoyme kai pali oti me tis Yphresies poy diaqetoyme eimaste ametaqeta topoqethmenoi sthn antimetwpish toy fainomenoy ths tromokratias poy apotelei mia sygxronh mastiga, opws exoyme pali pei. Kai sta plaisia ths prospaqeias mas ayths eimaste se synergasia me Yphresies allwn xwrwn poy exoyn ton idio stoxo.

PARIS: Sto teleytaio briefing sas eixa kanei mia erwthsh sxetika me ta kazino. Moy eixate pei oti h Kybernhsh den qa kinhqei se ena kaqestws anomias. Qelw na moy dieykrinisete: poy brisketai h anomia. Yparxoyn eyqynes ston prwhn Ypoyrgo k. Libano poy ypegrace th symbash ayth; Qa yparjei kapoia ereyna;

REPPAS: Oxi, ke Paris. H lejh (anomia) einai poly sygkekrimenh. Exei mia ennoia h opoia einai gnwsth. Aplws, eipa oti bebaiws den prepei na epikratoyn synqhkes anomias. Kai ayto synedeqh me thn apofash poy phre h Kybernhsh, sto plaisio ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs - gia na eimai pio sygkekrimenos - gia thn antimetwpish toy qematos twn adeiwn kazino sthn perioxh ths Attikhs. Qewrhse oti eprepe na allajei thn apofash poy eixe parei h Kybernhsh me prohgoymeno sxhma ths, giati qewrhse oti den einai apolyta swstes oi apofaseis poy eixan lhfqei. Kanena allo sxolio den exw. To oti allazei mia apofash, einai mia apofash kainoyrgia akribws, h opoia qewrei h Kybernhsh oti antapokrinetai perissotero stis anagkes poy yparxoyn sthn ellhnikh koinwnia shmera gia to sygkekrimeno qema.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Jerete pote qa topoqethqei neos Ellhnas Presbhs sto Parisi;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw thn akribh hmeromhnia. To epomeno diasthma qa ginei ayto.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Epeidh exoyme kapoies dhlwseis toy Toyrkoy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Gilmaz, stis opoies dhlwseis emperiexontai kai kapoia eirwnika sxolia oson afora thn Ellada. Leei dhladh o k. Gilmaz oti meta th synanthsh twn Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn Elladas kai Toyrkias, h Ellada qa prepei na antelhfqh, ti shmainei eirhnikh symbiwsh metajy twn dyo xwrwn. Qelw ena sxolio.

REPPAS: H Ellada den antelhfqh kati tetoio, giati h Ellada exei pagia qesh yper ths eirhnikhs symbiwshs kai ths synergasias twn lawn. Bebaiws, gia na yparjei aproskopth eirhnikh symbiwsh kai synergasia prepei na exoyn katoxyrwqei kanones synyparjhs kai synergasias, toys opoioys h Ellada proteinei kai sebetai sthn prajh. H Toyrkia einai ekeinh h opoia gia prwth fora, meta apo arketo kairo, milaei pia gia ena eirhniko tropo antimetwpishs twn opoiwn problhmatwn. H stash ths, thn prohgoymenh periodo, htan mia stash h opoia qa elega, den ekfrazei akribws mia tetoia diaqesh h mia tetoia epilogh, peri eirhnikoy tropoy antimetwpishs twn problhmatwn. Kai ayto einai kati kainoyrgio to opoio epishmainoyme. Eyxomeqa na apodeixqei kai sthn prajh synephs h Toyrkia se ayta ta opoia leei o Prwqypoyrgos ths.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, einai se gnwsh ths Kybernhsh sxedio symfwnias kataskeyasmeno apo ton k. Xolmproyk, poy kanei logo gia amfisbhtoymenes perioxes sto Aigaio;

REPPAS: Anaferesqe se proxqesina dhmosieymata. Den antapokrinetai sthn alhqeia to sxolio h to reportaz oti h Kybernhsh exei gnwsh ayths ths protashs kai exei jekinhsei kapoia syzhthsh h lambanei meros se kapoio dialogo me bash aythn thn protash.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: To sygkekrimeno sxedio;

REPPAS: To sygkekrimeno sxedio den einai se gnwsh ths Kybernhshs. Den exei perielqei se kybernhtikes yphresies h organa kai den apotelei antikeimeno endiaferontos h syzhthshs apo thn Ellhnikh Kybernhsh.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Apo th stigmh poy to sygkekrimeno sxedio dhmosieyqhke se kaqhmerinh efhmerida...

REPPAS: Nai, exei dhmosieyqei sthn ELEYQEROTYPIA.

MPOGIOPOYLOS:...h Kybernhsh frontise na ereynhsei to qema, an yparxei ayto;

REPPAS: Ma, den exei perielqei epishmws sta xeria organwn ths Kybernhshs ayto to sxedio. H Kybernhsh parakoloyqei, asfalws, ta dhmosieymata, k. Mpogiopoyle, alla prattei me bash dedomena pragmatika, yparkta. Edw, den yparxei bash panw sthn opoia h Kybernhsh mporei na anaptyjei mia politikh sto plaisio ths ejwterikhs politikhs ths.

MPERMPERAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, otan lete h Kybernhsh, ennoeite genikotera thn Kybernhsh PASOK apo to 1997. Etsi den einai;

REPPAS: Nai, epeidh akribws ayto to opoio eqese o k. Mpogiopoylos ws qema exei xronikh anafora to Martio, nomizw, toy 1995, an enqymoymai kala apo ta osa diabasa sto dhmosieyma. Anaferomai k. Mpermperakh genikws. Oxi mono sthn Kybernhsh ypo thn paroysa ths synqesh.

MPERMPERAKHS: Oyte o k. Xolmproyk, oyte o k. Nails sth synanthsh me ton k. Koyrh exoyn anaqerqei...

REPPAS: Den exoyn teqei tetoia qemata sthn Ellhnikh Kybernhsh.

KARAKWSTAS: H periodeia toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Qrakh stoxeyei sto na apostalei ena safes mhnyma pros th geitonikh Toyrkia; Kai an nai, poio einai ayto;

REPPAS: H prospaqeia ayth entassetai - epanalambanw kai pali - sth diaxronikh prospaqeia ths Ellhnikhs Politeias gia thn ajiopoihsh twn anaptyjiakwn dynatothtwn ths perioxhs ayths. Den exoyme endiaferon na steiloyme mhnymata se opoiadhpote allh xwra. Exoyme idiaitero endiaferon na asxolhqoyme me thn epilysh twn problhmatwn kaqe perioxhs, wste na ejasfalisoyme synqhkes ychloterhs - as moy epitrapei na pw - eyhmerias sth sygkekrimenh perioxh.

PARIS: O Dioikhths ths Trapezas ths Ellados apolambanei ths empistosynhs ths Kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Apolytws.

PARIS: To rwtaw ayto giati o k. Giannopoylos, xqes, eipe oti prepei na doylecoyme oloi kai na ekleicoyn kapoia fainomena Papadhmoy.

REPPAS: O k. Papadhmos einai Dioikhths ths Trapezas ths Ellados. O k. Giannopoylos einai enas politikos toy opoioy h eyaisqhsia gia ta koinwnika problhmata einai gnwsth.

PARIS: Ma einai o Ypoyrgos Ergasias.

REPPAS: Einai o Ypoyrgos Ergasias, bebaiws. Enas logos parapanw. Bebaiws o Ypoyrgos Ergasias exei ayjhmenh eyaisqhsia gia ayta ta qemata.

PARIS: Dhladh, o Ypoyrgos Ergasias, h Kybernhsh, h Trapeza ths Ellados exoyn diaforetikes kateyqynseis ws pros thn oikonomikh politikh;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti exei mia aytonomia sth drasthriothta toy o Dioikhths ths Trapezas ths Ellados, o opoios bebaiws diorizetai apo thn Kybernhsh kai epanalambanw, afoy qesate to qema, oti tygxanei ths empistosynhs ths Kybernhshs.

KACAMPELHS: Estw kai an me th dhlwsh sas deixnete empistosynh sto proswpo toy k. Papadhmoy, mporei enas Dioikhths Trapezas Ellados na kanei me to apaitoymeno kyros th doyleia toy, otan enas koryfaios Ypoyrgos sxoliazei kat' ayton ton tropo;

REPPAS: Ke Kacampelh, kaqe xrono, o Dioikhths ths Trapezas ths Ellados ypoballei thn Ekqesh toy. Kai h Ekqesh toy Dioikhth ths Trapezas ths Ellados einai ena keimeno to opoio, bebaiws - kai ayto einai synhqes fainomeno, gia na mhn pw monimo - brisketai se mia parallhlh sxesh, se mia mikrh apoklish apo tis qeseis poy epi ths politikhs twn diatypwnoyn oi ekastote Kybernhseis. Ayto sas einai gnwsto, den einai kainoyrgio zhthma. Gnwrizete poly kala oti o Dioikhths ths Trapezas ths Ellados, poy orizetai apo thn Kybernhsh, exei mia aytonomia. Exei ena rolo diakrito. Den einai, akribws, kybernhtiko organo.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: O armodios gia qemata oikonomikhs politikhs ths Kybernhshs Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias xarakthrise qetikh thn Ekqesh toy Dioikhth ths Trapezas ths Elladas. Ayto shmainei oti h Kybernhsh dia toy armodioy Ypoyrgoy symfwnei gia paratetamenh litothta, xwris diarkeia lhjhs, opws anaferei o k. Papadhmos;

REPPAS: H politikh ths Kybernhshs einai gnwsth. Pisteyoyme oti einai h monh epilogh se epipedo oikonomikhs politikhs poy yparxei shmera gia thn xwra mas, me ta gnwsta problhmata. Einai politikh staqerothtas kai anaptyjhs taytoxronws. Kai pisteyoyme oti oi karpoi ayths ths politikhs einai faneroi kai qa einai. Shmera, se epipedo deiktwn, ayrio se epipedo koinwnikhs eyhmerias.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Ara, symfwneite...

REPPAS: Ma, einai gnwsta ayta ta opoia epeshmane o k. Papadhmos. Kai, opws eipe kai o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias, toso ta problhmata, oso kai ta epiteygmata ths ellhnikhs oikonomias einai se oloys gnwsta. Ayta epanelabe kai o k. Papadhmos.

LASKARIDHS: Qelw na epanelqw sto qema ths afissas...

REPPAS: Na epanelqoyme.

LASKARIDHS: Mia erwthsh me dyo skelh: Ayth h afissa, opws eipate...

REPPAS: Nai alla anaptyssete ena oloklhro skeptiko. Qelete na kanete tis erwthseis sas, gia ta dyo skelh poy lete; Na mpoyme kateyqeian sta dyo skelh;

LASKARIDHS: Afoy h afissa ayth, opws eipate, einai kratikh kata kapoio tropo, giati yparxei to emblhma toy PASOK; Ayth einai h prwth erwthsh. Kai to deytero skelos, an egine prospaqeia na ekdoqei apo to PASOK ayth h afissa.

REPPAS: Kyrie Laskaridh apanthsa oti ekdoqhke apo to Grafeio Epikoinwnias toy Ellhna Prwqypoyrgoy poy exei th dynatothta, sta plaisia twn sxesewn toy me thn ellhnikh koinwnia na kanei kapoies ekdoseis, metajy twn opoiwn kai th sygkekrimenh afissa.
Sas eyxaristw poly.


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