Subject: MANY PLAYERS IN AZERBAIJAN By ED WARNER/WASHINGTON From: "Demetrios E. Paneras" DATE=3/23/95 TYPE=BACKGROUND REPORT NUMBER=5-19980 TITLE=MANY PLAYERS IN AZERBAIJAN BYLINE=ED WARNER DATELINE=WASHINGTON CONTENT= VOICED AT: INTRO: AFTER YET ANOTHER MILITARY UPRISING IN AZERBAIJAN, 11 OF ITS POLITICIANS ARE IN THE UNITED STATES EXPLAINING THEIR COUNTRY'S PROBLEMS AND LOOKING FOR HELP. AT A (RECENT) CONFERENCE (THIS WEEK) AT THE CARNEGIE ENDOWMENT FOR INTERNATIONAL PEACE, THEY OFFERED VARYING VIEWS ON AZERBAIJAN'S CURRENT INSTABILITY. VOA'S ED WARNER ATTENDED AND HAS THIS REPORT. TEXT: NATION BUILDING IS ALL THE HARDER IN THE CAUCASUS BECAUSE OF OUTSIDE INTERFERENCE, SAID PAUL GOBLE, SENIOR FELLOW AT THE CARNEGIE ENDOWMENT FOR INTERNATIONAL PEACE. INTRODUCING A GROUP OF VISITING AZERBAIJANI POLITICIANS, MR. GOBLE SAID THEIR COUNTRY IS PARTICULARLY VULNERABLE: // GOBLE ACTUALITY // THE PROBLEMS OF OF FORMING A STATE, THE PROBLEMS OF ARTICULATING A POLITICAL SYSTEM THAT IS MORE OPEN THAN WAS POSSIBLE IN THE PAST AND WHERE THE STATE RULES BY AUTHORITY RATHER THAN BY FORCE, ARE OVERWHELMING. WE DO NOT YET SEE PLURALISM IN AZERBAIJAN. WE SEE A HIGHLY SEGMENTED SOCIETY WITH GROUPS PARTICIPATING IN POLITICS AS A ZERO SUM (ALL OR NOTHING) GAME WITH WINNERS AND LOSERS SEEING THE OUTCOME AS BEING SO FATEFUL THAT THEY HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO GO TO VIOLENCE. AND WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST 10 DAYS IS ONLY THE LATEST EPISODE OF THOSE UNDERLYING REALITIES. // END ACT // MR. GOBLE REFERRED TO STILL ANOTHER MILITARY REBELLION THAT WAS ONCE AGAIN PUT DOWN BY PRESIDENT GAIDAR ALIYEV -- THIS TIME WITH BLOODSHED. THOUGH ITS LEADER WAS A TOP GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL WHO LOST HIS LIFE, SOME RUSSIAN INVOLVEMENT WAS SUSPECTED. THAT'S NOT THE END OF IT, PREDICTED MR. GOBLE. THERE WILL BE FURTHER EFFORTS TO DESTABILIZE THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE CAUCASUS THAT HAS MANAGED TO KEEP OUT RUSSIAN TROOPS. ONE OF THE VISITING POLITICIANS, FUAD MUSTAFAYEV, SAID RUSSIA HAS NOT DEVELOPED A COHERENT POLICY TOWARD AZERBAIJAN: // MUSTAFAYEV ACT. FROM RUSSIAN TO ENGLISH // ANY CURRENT ASPECT OF ITS POLICY TENDS TO CHANGE ALONG WITH CHANGES INSIDE RUSSIA ITSELF. I AM FAR FROM CLAIMING THAT ANY FORCES IN RUSSIA BELIEVE IT'S POSSIBLE TO LEAVE AZERBAIJAN, PULL OUT OF AZERBAIJAN ALTOGETHER, WHETHER IT IS THE SO-CALLED NATIONALISTIC FORCES OR THE SO-CALLED CENTRIST BLOC OR ELSE THE DEMOCRATS. // END ACT // NOT JUST RUSSIANS HAVE AN INTEREST IN AZERBAIJAN, NOTED FUAD GULIEV. TURKEY, IRAN, AND THE UNITED STATES ARE ALSO INVOLVED IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT OIL PIPELINES FROM AZERBAIJAN'S RICH OIL FIELDS: // GULIEV ACTUALITY FROM RUSSIAN TO ENGLISH // EACH OF THE COUNTRIES HAS ITS INTERESTS AT STAKE. AND AZERBAIJAN HAS TO BALANCE ITSELF BECAUSE IF AZERBAIJAN GIVES ITS PREFERENCE TO ANY PARTICULAR STATE, IT WILL GET INTO NO END OF TROUBLE FROM OTHER STATES. // END ACT // OTHER SPEAKERS WARNED OF POSSIBLE AGGRESSIVE DESIGNS BY IRAN, AND PRESIDENT ALIYEV HAD EVEN SUGGESTED A TURKISH CONNECTION IN THE LATEST MILITARY UPRISING. THERE ARE MANY PLAYERS IN AZERBAIJAN TODAY, SAID THE VISITING POLITICIANS, AND THE GAME IS ALMOST TOO COMPLEX TO BE UNRAVELLED. (SIGNED) 23-Mar-95 11:29 AM EST (1629 UTC) NNNN Source: Voice of America ------------------------------------------------------------------------------