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U.S. Department of State Daily Press Briefing #24, 00-03-27

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U.S. Department of State

Daily Press Briefing

I N D E X

Monday, March 27, 2000

Briefer: James B. Foley

NORTH KOREA
1	US, Republic of Korea, and Japan Trilateral Consultations in Tokyo,
	 March 30 
RUSSIA
1-3	US Reaction to Russian Election
3,4	Situation in Chechnya Raised with President-Elect Putin
4-5	Access to Chechnya for Journalists, Relief Organizations, Human
	 Rights Agencies 
3-4	Status of Dialogue on ABM Treaty
5	US-Russian Contacts
COSTA RICA
5-6	Reported Arrest in Murder of Two Americans
MIDDLE EAST PEACE PROCESS
6,7,8	Ambassador Ross' Travel to Israel
6-8,9	Results of President Clinton and Syrian President Assad's Meeting
6-7,9-10,12	Update on Israeli-Palestinian Talks at Bolling Air Force Base
TURKEY/ARMENIA
8	US Congressional Armenia Resolutions
TURKEY
8	US Position on Article 312
EGYPT
9	President Mubarak's Visit To US/Meetings with Administration
	 Officials 
CUBA
10	Fidel Castro's Speech/Remarks about Elian Gonzalez Case
IRAQ/NORTH KOREA/SUDAN
10-11	Reports Iraq and North Korea Building Missile Plant in Sudan
BELARUS
11	Violence Over the Weekend
SAUDI ARABIA
11-12	Amnesty International's Upcoming Report on Saudi Arabia
MIDDLE EAST
12-13	Pope's Visit to the Region

U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
DAILY PRESS BRIEFING

DPB #24

MONDAY, MARCH 27, 2000, 1:10 P.M.

(ON THE RECORD UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED)

MR. FOLEY: Welcome to the State Department. I have only one announcement to make, which is that the United States, the Republic of Korea and Japan are going to be meeting for trilateral consultations in Tokyo on March 30. Our delegation will be led by Ambassador Wendy Sherman, and the three officials will be discussing the range of issues and our ongoing coordination of policy towards the DPRK.

With that, let me go --we have not the Associated Press, so who would like to -- hello, welcome.

QUESTION: I'm filling in today. I'm Pauline Jelinek.

MR. FOLEY: Welcome.

QUESTION: I'll defer to the regulars.

MR. FOLEY: Well, we can just pass the buck all around the room, if you'd like.

QUESTION: The Russian election.

MR. FOLEY: What's your question? A reaction?

QUESTION: Yes.

MR. FOLEY: As you know, President Clinton has spoken already this morning with President-Elect Putin to congratulate him on his victory in the Russian presidential elections. Preliminary results indicate that Mr. Putin won 52.6 percent of the vote. Apparently 95 percent of the vote has now been counted.

This is Russia's second presidential election taken together with the three Duma elections and the hundreds of regional and local elections over the past nine years. This election shows that the ballot box has indeed become the undisputed way for Russians to select their leaders. So we think this is an important milestone in the consolidation of democracy in Russia.

The fact that there was a large turnout -- and if you remember there was some speculation that there might not be a large turnout -- we understand that 69 percent of eligible voters cast ballots in the election. Thus far, international observers have not reported any serious violations in the voting process. The OSCE has issued a report calling the election a massive expression of the will of the Russian people, but it also cited concern over imbalanced media coverage and pressure on independent media that did occur in the context to the elections.

And that's our reaction. A follow-up?

QUESTION: I have one. Do you have any reaction to Foreign Minister Ivanov's remarks today that Russia will now make changes to its foreign policy to focus on a more energetic defense of their own national interests? This could signal more trouble ahead for arms control and Chechnya, for example.

MR. FOLEY: That's your comment at the end of the statement, I assume.

QUESTION: It's the question. Are you at all worried that these are going to be potential areas of --

MR. FOLEY: Well, first of all, I'm not aware that the Russian Government heretofore has been unflagging in its commitment to Russian national interests, so I don't think that's necessarily presages of something new in that respect.

Secondly, we look for a partner in Russia that is an advocate of Russian interest. That's what we expect. Indeed, we would like to see a Russia that is not only consolidating democracy but one that is consolidating the free market economy and instituting the rule of law that's helping the Russian people to get back on their feet after these years of transition -- difficult years of transition. I think the Acting President himself noted that there was a significant protest vote, as he called it, and that's to be expected given the dire economic circumstances in Russia.

In terms of foreign policy though, which is what you asked me about, we've seen that statement by Foreign Minister Ivanov. I think we'll need to be in touch with the Russian Foreign Ministry at various levels to see if his statement indicates any change in basic policies. We don't anticipate that.

That Russia will, as I said, be an advocate for Russian interests is not necessarily new or surprising. What is important is that if nations, including the United States, pursue their national interests, that they find ways to achieve common ground on behalf of shared objectives. We believe we have an enormous amount of work we can do with Russia in various fields, first and foremost in the security field, in the field of promoting stability in the greater Europe, in the field of arms control, and in the field of economic relations. We want to work together with Russia. We want to work productively with Russia and, indeed, we hope that President-Elect Putin will follow through on his statements that have occurred over the last months about the need for economic reform, to protect the rule of law, and to respect the basic rights of citizens.

QUESTION: Can you tell us, please, what's happening between Israeli and Palestinian side at Bolling?

MR. FOLEY: We'll come to that later, undoubtedly.

QUESTION: To what degree do you think the Administration will be successful in pursuing those different categories that you just mentioned, given political elections in this country and uncertainty and all that entails? Do you think you'll be able to check off some boxes this year?

MR. FOLEY: Well, I don't expect there to be any flagging on our part in terms of pursuing productive relations with Russia and work on common areas of interest that I indicated a minute ago. It's hard to comment on the electoral process in this country. We don't do that from the State Department. I think both leading presidential candidates have indicated the importance of the relationship with Russia. I don't think anybody disputes that the United States has a national interest in a Russia which continues to move in the direction they've moved in over the last ten years -- in terms of consolidating democracy, in terms of economic reform and growing prosperity for the Russian people. That's in our national interest.

We have, nevertheless, areas of disagreement, notably Chechnya, and that is something that I think, as was indicated in the White House statement, that the President raised with President-Elect Putin. We believe that the Chechnya conflict is, aside from a humanitarian black eye, it is also a dead end for Russia, we believe, in that we don't see a military solution as ultimately possible in Chechnya. We believe there has to be a political solution. In order for there to be a political solution, there has to be a political process of dialogue, of reaching out to credible Chechen interlocutors.

And we hope the new Russian Government will find its own way towards achieving a political solution in Chechnya. Until that happens, we have serious and profound disagreement. But in terms of our ability and this Administration's ability to pursue not only the agenda with Russia but our foreign policy interests around the world, I think there's no question that the President, as he demonstrated over the last week, is firmly engaged on the foreign policy front.

QUESTION: How realistic is getting an understanding on ABM this year?

MR. FOLEY: Well, we are talking with the Russians. Based on Secretary Albright's last meetings in Moscow, including with President-Elect Putin, there was a willingness on the Russian side to continue the dialogue. We don't see eye-to-eye about our support for the building of a national missile defense. We believe, nevertheless, that, again, it is possible to find common ground with Russia on this matter because we believe Russia also faces the threat of the development of long-range missile capabilities in regions closer to Russia than to the United States and that this is an area that we ought to be able to work on together.

That's not to predict an early positive outcome or a positive outcome of these talks at any point. We have to see. But we've seen a willingness on President-Elect Putin's part to discuss the issue, and we both agree on the importance of the ABM Treaty. We happen to believe that it's possible to reconcile the Treaty, to preserve its principles, and also to move forward with meeting our legitimate defense needs.

QUESTION: We often hear that the Secretary or -- and today the President has brought up Chechnya, but we don't hear what President, now-elect, Putin says in return. We often hear that he has expressed willingness to talk about ABM. Is this because when she brings it up there is dead silence on the other end of the phone or something like that? It seems like if he gave her or gave other US officials reason to believe that he was going to be constructive about investigating the human rights abuses in Chechnya that that would be reported back to us in some form, and we don't hear it much.

MR. FOLEY: Well, first of all, if I had been privy to the President's conversation with President-Elect Putin, I wouldn't be in a position to talk about it. I wasn't privy to it, so I am unable under any circumstance to talk about it. But as a general point, though, I think you're right, that we've not seen movement on the Russian side. We've not seen a recognition, at least a meaningful recognition on their part, that they need a political process, that there is no military solution.

We believe that if they reflect on it carefully over time, they will come to this conclusion, that this is going to be a continuing breeding ground for instability, even for terrorism, and that in order to meet Russia's own stated objectives, it will be necessary to start a political solution. Obviously, we have very serious human rights concerns about the situation in Russia and we've been attempting -- we and many other nations around the world, including the leading European nations and the EU -- to persuade the Russians to do the right thing in terms of opening up Chechnya to access by journalists, by relief organizations, by human rights agencies.

I believe that High Commissioner Mary Robinson will be making a trip to Moscow and Grozny in the early part of April. We look forward to that trip. We will look forward to her report. And we very strongly urge the Russians to take advantage of the willingness of the international community to work on the humanitarian aspects of the crisis in Chechnya, to use that opportunity to help meet the humanitarian concerns of the people in Chechnya.

QUESTION: Even as the Administration has been accusing Russia of not letting journalists and international agencies into Chechnya, Russian Foreign Minister Ivanov has been saying that that is incorrect, that there has been access. Given that that's their psychological position, and you've just said yourself you've been trying for months to persuade them, what new steps --

MR. FOLEY: I did indicate that it's something the Russians have engaged with other countries on. As you indicate, there have been visits but we don't see the kind of sustained cooperation and access that is necessary both to shed a spotlight on what's been happening there and then to begin to really alleviate the suffering that's been occurring there.

QUESTION: Given that there seems to be this difference, what new steps now that Vladimir Putin has become President can the Administration take? Will there be a consideration of a resolution in Geneva, for example, now that he's in place?

MR. FOLEY: Well, Secretary Albright spoke to the situation in Chechnya in her speech before the Human Rights Commission in Geneva, so I would refer you to her remarks. Obviously, with what's going on in Chechnya, it is a matter of legitimate concern and focus on the part of nations participating in the Human Rights Commission.

As to what might happen specifically in Geneva on this matter, I think time will tell. It's too early to say. We are in active consultation with other members and with the EU, other members of the Human Rights Commission. We, as I indicated, are looking forward to Mary Robinson's visit to Moscow and to Grozny and to her report. We're looking for the Russians to take some concrete steps having to do with the ICRC, having to do with access to the region, having to do with investigations of allegations, serious allegations of human rights abuses. And so we'll have to see how that develops over the next few weeks.

QUESTION: I wonder whether the State Department feels that enough of the conversations that go on between the United States and Russia go on at the appropriate level. I mean, as a way of strengthening institutions in Russia, shouldn't more of the discussions be going on at the institutional level rather than at the head of government or the Secretary of State level or head of state level?

MR. FOLEY: I'm not quite sure I understand the question. I mean, we have a panoply of relationships, especially since the end of the Soviet Union, a monolithic society where everything was controlled by political authorities at the top. You now have a thriving civil society in Russia. You have a multitude of contacts between private Americans, private Russians, NGOs, think tanks.

QUESTION: Between governments.

MR. FOLEY: And officials at various levels from different ministries and departments. They're below the surface. I think the press tends to focus on the big contacts, President-to-President, Secretary to Foreign Minister, but those contacts do go on and of course we have a very effective Embassy led by Ambassador Collins in Russia which is in touch with all of the relevant ministries and throughout Russian society as well.

QUESTION: Can I switch subjects?

MR. FOLEY: Yes.

QUESTION: In Costa Rica, do you have any comment on the report of an arrest there in the murder of two Americans?

MR. FOLEY: I do. We have been informed by the Costa Rican authorities that they have detained one individual in connection with the murders of Emily Eagen and Emily Howell. It is our understanding that the individual who has been detained is allegedly a minor who was in possession of a gun that reportedly matched the bullets collected by forensics experts.

Costa Rican authorities plan to hold a press conference today to release information about the investigation. I don't have more information myself about it. I can tell you, though, that the US Embassy is keeping the families of both victims informed. Our understanding also is that the Costa Rican authorities are not, at least at this point, releasing the identity of the arrested individual. Their investigation, though, is ongoing.

QUESTION: Can I talk about the Middle East?

MR. FOLEY: Yes, ma'am.

QUESTION: Dennis Ross went to brief Prime Minister Barak today in Israel. Is it just to brief him about what happened, or is he carrying specific ideas? And can you tell us about them?

MR. FOLEY: Well, I'm not in a position to share his talking points or his agenda publicly, but I think the White House was clear yesterday in Geneva that Ambassador Ross would be traveling to Israel to brief the Prime Minister on the results of the meeting between President Clinton and President Assad yesterday. That's the essential focus.

QUESTION: And on the Palestinian-Israeli track, what's going on at Bolling? I mean, how long are they going to be talking? Do you have a date for this session?

MR. FOLEY: Yes.

QUESTION: And we heard there might be some problems about -- in the talks about the third redeployment, the Palestinians want to discuss with the Israelis and the Israelis are not interested.

MR. FOLEY: Actually, on that point, it is a matter that they have discussed. It hasn't predominated by any means. They have been largely focused on permanent status issues. As you know, the aim of these talks is to try to rapidly reach a framework agreement that would enable the parties to resolve all of the outstanding permanent status issues by September 13th of this year -- a very ambitious agenda. But they have discussed the issue of the third interim stage withdrawal, and we expect -- they've agreed to discuss it again in the future.

In terms of logistically or procedurally where they are, the parties -- the Israelis and Palestinians -- continued their discussions over the weekend. They are meeting today. They will be meeting again tomorrow. Secretary Albright is going to meet with both delegations together today. Our assessment of the talks is that they have been serious, intensive and indeed productive. We expect that the parties will return tomorrow to brief their leaderships and to resume their negotiations in Washington in the next few weeks. I don't have a specific time or date for the resumption, but they will be coming back to Washington.

QUESTION: But tomorrow -- it's ending tomorrow, the first session?

MR. FOLEY: Yes, they will meet again tomorrow and then depart tomorrow. That's right.

QUESTION: You mentioned that the met again at the weekend?

MR. FOLEY: Yes.

QUESTION: It's just a detail, but I understood they were breaking. Was it both days or --

MR. FOLEY: They were breaking? I'm sorry.

QUESTION: I understood that they took a break at the weekend.

MR. FOLEY: Well, from the beginning of the Sabbath, Friday evening until sundown Saturday, they did not meet or work, but they did meet and work on Friday and on Saturday and on Sunday.

QUESTION: About --

MR. FOLEY: Don't tell me you forgot your question.

QUESTION: About Clinton -- no, I don't think so. About Clinton and Assad in Geneva

QUESTION: Can we stay with the Palestinian talks?

MR. FOLEY: Sure. We'll come back to you.

QUESTION: Is the meeting that the Secretary's going to have at Bolling with them, or here?

MR. FOLEY: No, here.

QUESTION: What time?

MR. FOLEY: I'll get you that afterwards.

QUESTION: On the meeting in --

MR. FOLEY: Let me hasten to interrupt to say that I've said about all I have to say about the President's meeting. Mr. Lockhart, I think, had something to say after the meeting yesterday in Geneva. I don't have much beyond that today.

QUESTION: I understand, Jim. This is not your territory exactly, but you know, little progress is one of the descriptions -- that the talks between Syria and Israel were not advanced much, if at all. Are those characterizations that you would agree with or would you say that this did, in fact, advance the cause of peace between Israel and Syria?

MR. FOLEY: Well, whether the meeting becomes, in hindsight, an event that led to progress will only be known to us in hindsight as events develop in the course of time. What we can say now, though, and it's important to be clear, is that there remain differences between the two sides.

What is important is that as far as the United States is concerned, and not only the United States but indeed the Israelis and the Syrians, is that we are going to continue working with the parties. They want us to continue working with them. All sides agree on the importance of continuing these efforts to clarify positions and needs so that there is confidence that if negotiations resume they will have a reasonable chance of success and progress.

And so we are not going to give up the effort. It's important to continue. The stakes are important. The prize of peace is worth the effort, and we are going to continue to work with them to try to clarify positions and see whether agreement is possible.

QUESTION: So Dennis Ross makes the next step, basically?

MR. FOLEY: I didn't say that.

QUESTION: No?

MR. FOLEY: He's briefing the Prime Minister of Israel today. He returns tomorrow. And we've not really spoken from this podium about our lines of communication to the parties, but we will be in touch with the parties.

QUESTION: Another subject. What can you tell us about Turkish-Armenian relations and will you offer to rescind some American Armenian attempt to push several resolution against Turkey in the legislation by several states throughout the United States? You know that there are two resolution pending before the US Congress on the so-called "Armenian Resolutions."

What is the US State Department reaction?

MR. FOLEY: Well, this is not a new issue. I think it has cropped up in previous years and, like past administrations, we oppose the legislative measures that you mention to deal with this very sensitive issue. We believe that such measures can have the inadvertent effect of hurting efforts to encourage improved relations between Armenia and Turkey.

President Clinton and Secretary Albright met with Turkish and Armenian leaders in Istanbul in November -- also they met in Davos in January -- to promote the process of building peace and stability in the Caucasus that will secure improved relations between Turkey and Armenia. That process continues, and that's what we're emphasizing.

QUESTION: And also, according to some press reports, the Turkish chief prosecutor claimed that US push hard to change Article 312 in Turkey in order to save the former Istanbul mayor -- his political life. Can you confirm?

MR. FOLEY: There has been no such pressure, and I think that the Turkish Minister of Justice has, in fact, made that clear. We have -- I'll be frank -- encouraged progress on human rights and democracy in Turkey, including wider freedom of expression, and that is a general principle. But we believe that Turkey should make changes in this area not to please us or to please Europe, but in order to enhance democracy for all of its citizens.

The bottom line, though, is that these are matters for the people of Turkey to decide on what kind of society they want and how to achieve it.

QUESTION: Was there any Israeli officials in Geneva so that the President, President Clinton, could determine that the positions of President Assad were not enough to bridge the gap? This is one track.

And the other thing, President Mubarak is here. Is he meeting with Secretary Albright and is there any mediation on the Egyptian side on the Israeli-Palestinian or the Israeli-Syrian tracks?

MR. FOLEY: Well, that's a lot of questions. As to whether there are any Israeli officials in Geneva, I would be surprised if there weren't Israeli officials in Geneva. As to whether that's in any way pertinent to your question, I doubt it. I'd have to refer you to the White House. I wasn't in Geneva. I believe that the President had adequate means of talking to counterparts at his level in Israel. Dennis Ross is now in Israel to meet with the Prime Minister, so I don't think the question, as I said, is pertinent.

In terms of President Mubarak, obviously, he is a man of vision and influence in the region and we are going to be discussing with him over the course of his visit a whole range of issues both bilaterally and regionally, including the Middle East peace process. He's been very helpful in that area historically. I wouldn't attach the word mediation to it, but he's a friend of the peace process and has played a very constructive role in that regard.

I believe Secretary Albright is meeting with him tomorrow and, of course, he's seeing the President and Vice President and others while he's here.

QUESTION: You've qualified the Israeli-Palestinian talks when they begun as "brainstorming sessions."

MR. FOLEY: Yes.

QUESTION: And now you've said that they have been productive. So they've gone a bit further than brainstorming? Have they begun -- has there been a narrowing of gaps? And on what specific issues of the --

MR. FOLEY: I'm not going to get into the issues -- sorry, you'll be surprised to learn. But they've gone well, though. I think that's the fundamental point. As Mr. Rubin indicated, yes, these were brainstorming sessions; in other words, a session characterized mostly by the exchange of ideas. They haven't put pen to paper to this point, but they've gone well.

There's a real, as Mr. Rubin said last week, a real sense of common destiny and a sense that they're partners and that they need to work these very difficult issues out successfully. But I'm not in a position to parse for you. This is the first round here in Washington. They're going home tomorrow. They're going to come back. And, obviously, it's a shortened or an accelerated agenda if we want to get the final distance to a permanent status agreement between now and September, but I don't have a specific progress report for you.

QUESTION: Do you have any comment on the speech by Fidel Castro this weekend threatening the United States with sending another Mariel and --

MR. FOLEY: I'm tempted to comment. But I think it's no accident, as the communists like to say, Mr. Castro gave the speech the evening of the Academy Awards here in the United States. I'm not sure what category he would be up for. He spoke for five hours. I don't think there's a supporting actor category in the Cuban cinematography industry (Laughter). Nevertheless, he made some very intemperate remarks we believe that reveal more about him than they do about the real issues in this case.

This is a serious matter involving Elian Gonzalez, and the United States Government is trying to find a fair, prompt and orderly solution to the issue. The Department of Justice has followed a deliberate process, consistent with our laws and procedures, and the United States will not be intimidated or pressured into taking actions that are inconsistent with these principles. So any threats or innuendoes expressed by the government of Cuba are, in fact, irrelevant to the disposition of this case.

QUESTION: Is there special measures going to be taken to protect the Interests Section in Havana?

MR. FOLEY: Cuba knows its responsibilities under relevant international conventions to protect diplomatic persons and installations, and we fully expect Cuba will meet those obligations.

QUESTION: Change of subject?

MR. FOLEY: Sure.

QUESTION: A William Safire article claims that Iraq and North Korea may now be working together building a new ballistic missile plant in Sudan, and this was a topic on the Sunday shows with Trent Lott saying, if that's true, the US should be prepared to take military action. And even former UN Chief Inspector Richard Butler says, in fact, it could be true. He didn't say it is true, but he says it could be true. Do you have any reaction?

MR. FOLEY: I'm not sure Mr. Safire says more than that either. I read the article.

QUESTION: But even the Senate Republican leader --

MR. FOLEY: We take all such information extraordinarily seriously. And if, obviously, we had information on this subject, it's not something that lends itself to public discussion because it would be based on intelligence matters. But as I said, we take seriously reports of transfers of proliferation concern and we investigate them thoroughly. And we have consistently stated that North Korea's missile proliferation activities are of serious concern to the United States. We continue to press vigorously for restraints on North Korea's production, deployment, testing and export of missiles and missile technology. And those issues indeed will be central to the next round of US-DPRK talks.

QUESTION: (Inaudible) the pressure is going to be on North Korea side if they're collaborating with Iraq? I mean we don't have much --

MR. FOLEY: You are postulating something that I'm not agreeing to. I'm saying that we follow these kinds of issues of reports or concerns about proliferation very seriously. We monitor them. We follow them. We don't talk about intelligence. We can't publicly, so I can't comment on the report specifically.

QUESTION: Any statement on the violent turn of events in Belarus this weekend?

MR. FOLEY: I have to take the question.

QUESTION: Okay, thanks.

MR. FOLEY: I'll try to get you something this afternoon.

QUESTION: Also, Amnesty is releasing a major report on Saudi Arabia tomorrow. Do you have anything on human rights in Saudi Arabia?

MR. FOLEY: Tomorrow?

QUESTION: Yes.

MR. FOLEY: If I could give tomorrow's briefing today, I would be I think promoted instantly. But I don't.

QUESTION: So they're going to be focusing on just the general human rights set of issues --

MR. FOLEY: Well, you've been here long enough to know that even on the day of we haven't necessarily received a given report and digested it and analyzed it, so it may not even be tomorrow that we'll comment on it. But we'll look for it.

QUESTION: I'm not asking for a reaction to the report in advance. I'm more like saying could you tell us what the Department's position is about human rights in Saudi Arabia?

MR. FOLEY: Yes, I could, in a way, by directing you towards our Country Human Rights Report that was issued very recently.

QUESTION: Secretary Albright will meet with the Palestinians and the Israelis. When? And you said that they are coming in a few weeks before they mentioned that they will go back for a few days and come back.

MR. FOLEY: No, I did say that. Yes, that they meet, they're continuing their discussions today and tomorrow, and they go back home tomorrow.

QUESTION: But they will come back after several weeks or several days?

MR. FOLEY: Several weeks. A few weeks.

QUESTION: But time is pressing. I mean, the deadline is in May, and they were supposed to go home for five days at the beginning and then come back for the second session. So why is it --

MR. FOLEY: Well, they will be coming back for a second session soon.

QUESTION: But in a few weeks.

MR. FOLEY: Soon.

QUESTION: In a few weeks.

MR. FOLEY: Well, I may have misspoken. You're pressing me on a date, and I'm not in a position to give you a date. We'll hopefully be able to do that shortly. But as I said, let me quote myself, "We expect them to resume the negotiations in the next few weeks."

Was there another question?

QUESTION: At what time will they be meeting Mrs. Albright? Will they be comments by Mrs. Albright --

MR. FOLEY: They may be meeting very shortly. No, it's not a public meeting. But I would expect soon.

QUESTION: You said she's meeting both sides together at the same time?

MR. FOLEY: Yes. In her office, yes. Any other questions?

QUESTION: I was just going to ask that -- the Pope has finished -- he gave support to the various meetings and talks over the last five days. He did what he does best for Israel, the Holy Land generally. Does the State Department have a particular point of view about the Pope's visit?

MR. FOLEY: I think Mr. Rubin spoke elegantly about it last week when the Pope had just begun his visit. Obviously, he brings a powerful message -- brought a powerful message of reconciliation to a very important, vital, historically important and dangerous region. And I can only speak for myself. I thought his words were profound to all peoples, to all religions, and one hopes that they will fall on fertile ground.

Thank you.

(The briefing was concluded at 1:41 P.M.)


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