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U.S. Department of State Daily Press Briefing #147, 99-12-02

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From: The Department of State Foreign Affairs Network (DOSFAN) at <http://www.state.gov>


799

U.S. Department of State Daily Press Briefing

I N D E X

Thursday, December 2, 1999

Briefer: James P. Rubin

STATEMENTS
1      Release of Opposition Leader Mikhail Chigir

1 Baseless Charges in the Croatian Press

CROATIA 1-2 Allegations of Buggings & Break-Ins at US & Democratic National Institute Offices in Croatia

CYPRUS 2 Talks on Accession of Cyprus to the EU

LIBYA 2 Visit of Italian Prime Minister / Enforcement of Iran-Libya Sanctions Act

RUSSIA 2-3, 6 Status of US Diplomat Detained for Espionage / Status of Russian Diplomat in Washington

6-7 Chechnya: Russia's Rejection of OSCE Visit to Chechyna

NORTH KOREA 3 Visit of Diet Delegation (Japan) / Roger Clinton Visit / Perry Recommendations on North Korea

IRAQ 4 UN Security Council Resolution to Extend Humanitarian Program / Oil-for-Food Program

4 Potential Return of UN Inspectors

4-5 US View on Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction Capability

MIDDLE EAST PEACE PROCESS

5-6 Israel-Syria Peace Talks / Russia's Role as Co-Chair of Middle East Mediation

12-13 Status of Framework Agreement on Permanent Status Talks / Goals of Secretary Albright's Trip

HAITI 7 Resignation of Ambassador Timothy Carney

COLOMBIA 7-10 Return of US Trucks / Colombian Aid Package ("Plan Colombia" ) / Criticism of "Plan Colombia"

MEXICO 10 US Helicopters

CUBA 10 Castro Claim of US Plot to Kill Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez

11 Castro & Visa for WTO

11-12 Status of Cuban Boy Survivor / Has the US Received Requests for the Boy's Return From His Family in Cuba

SERBIA (KOSOVO)

10-11 Allegations of Milosevic's Government Blocking Heating Oil / European Views of Sanctions Against Milosevic

SUDAN 11 Decision on Aid Package

DROC 12 Allegations of Recruiting of American Mercenaries


U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
DAILY PRESS BRIEFING

DPB #147

THURSDAY, DECEMBER 2, 1999, 12:50 P.M.

(ON THE RECORD UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED)

MR. RUBIN: Greetings. Welcome to today's fourth briefing of the week, today being Thursday; Thursday being the fourth day of the week.

We have a statement about the release of opposition leader Mikhail Chigir. We welcome the release of this opposition leader from Belarus from detention. He was arrested on politically-based charges. We urge the Belarusian Government to drop all the charges leveled against him, release other political detainees, and account for disappeared opposition figures, including several figures that will be included in this statement.

Similarly, in another part of the world, let me say the United States regards as baseless a number of charges that have come out in the Croatian press suggesting that the United States is somehow secretly interfering in the Croatian election. These charges have no basis in fact. The United States and other western governments commonly provide assistance to non- governmental organizations and political parties committed to advancing democratic principles around the world. That is true in Croatia. These are operations that are well known; take place in public. They are well known to all and we urge those responsible to refocus on issues rather than trying to divert attention on such counterproductive and baseless allegations.

QUESTION: Can I ask a question on that? Have you cleared up any further the allegations that the Croatian Government was bugging US and Democratic National Institute offices?

MR. RUBIN: Those matters are still being investigated and we don't think it would be prudent to draw conclusions publicly until those investigations have been completed.

QUESTION: Is that the same answer you would give for the break-ins at the homes of two Americans, including one diplomat?

MR. RUBIN: I thought that was what he just asked me.

QUESTION: He talked about a bugging, I talked about a --

MR. RUBIN: Break in.

QUESTION: Yes.

MR. RUBIN: Thank you for that distinction; I missed it. With regard to all of those incidents about which we are deeply troubled, they are under investigation and we are awaiting the results of that investigation.

QUESTION: (Inaudible) - the start of the talks on Cyprus between Mr. Denktash and President Clerides. They are supposed to be talks without preconditions, but Mr. Denktash made the statement and he called for a stop in the process of Cyprus accessing to the European Union. Do you have a comment on that?

MR. RUBIN: I think it's fairly well known that we are not a member of the European Union. But I think it's fair to say that we strongly support the European Union's decision to start accession talks with Cyprus.

QUESTION: What do you make of the visit to Libya of the Italian prime minister?

MR. RUBIN: With respect to that visit, let me say we are continuing to watch Libyan actions very carefully and closely. We have acknowledged that Libya has made statements indicating their intent to change their behavior, but we obviously want to monitor that very carefully.

We have urged our allies, including Italy, when they are talking to Libyan officials to urge them to follow through on their statements of their intent not to provide support for terrorist organizations.

We have acknowledged certain positive steps that Libya has taken recently. I think I did that yesterday. But we have also made clear that these steps don't satisfy all of our concerns. Before we could support lifting UN sanctions, we will expect full Libyan compliance with all Security Council requirements, especially in the area of renouncing and ending support for terrorism, cooperation with the trial which isn't scheduled to begin until February, and payment of appropriate compensation.

So we are going to continue to urge our allies and friends like Italy when they are in contact with Libyan authorities to call for the implementation of those steps. We are also continuing to watch foreign investments in the Libyan petroleum sector, and we will implement the requirements of the Iran- Libya Sanctions Act.

QUESTION: Can you confirm that an American diplomat is being asked to leave by Russian authorities?

MR. RUBIN: The Russian foreign ministry called in a senior embassy official to protest alleged espionage activities of a diplomat assigned to the embassy in Moscow. The foreign affairs ministry has given the person ten days to leave the country. She will depart within the allotted time, and that is about all I can say about that.

QUESTION: Can you say who it was that they called in? It wasn't the Ambassador?

MR. RUBIN: I'll have to check that - DCM, the Deputy Chief of Mission, Mr. Ordway.

QUESTION: So former Japanese Prime Minister Murayama and the North Korean counterpart agreed to resume talks on setting up the -- (inaudible) -- provisions. Do you have any comment on that?

MR. RUBIN: We welcome the visit to North Korea of a Japanese Diet delegation led by former Prime Minister Murayama and consisting of representatives of all parties in the Japanese Diet. The United States and its allies, Japan and South Korea, have consulted extensively and repeatedly and we believe we are all pursuing a coordinated policy of engaging North Korea in a dialogue in pursuit of peace and stability on the Korean Peninsula.

In that context, we welcome dialogue between the Japanese parliamentary group and officials in North Korea and hope it will lead to improved relations between Tokyo and Pyongyang. With respect to further specifics, it wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment. That should come from those involved.

QUESTION: Also on North Korea, does the State Department have any feelings about the fact that the President's brother is going to be serenading North Koreans this weekend in Pyongyang?

MR. RUBIN: I don't know whether it will end up sounding like a serenade but let me say that we do understand that Mr. Clinton plans - that is Roger Clinton - plans to participate in a charity concert in North Korea. As a rule, we do not oppose cultural exchanges with North Korea. As far as what he's going to do and not do, I urge you to contact him directly. We have no official connection with this event in any way, shape or form.

QUESTION: Dr. Perry says, yes, his policy proposal - (inaudible) - US will resume diplomatic resumption dialogues with North Korea - I'm sorry, normalization talks with North Korea - and that Japanese and South Korea would follow in talks -- (inaudible). That's his - I believe the -- (inaudible) - recommendation. So this resumption of talks between Japan and North Korea wouldn't be contradictory of the recommendation of Dr. Perry?

MR. RUBIN: I didn't fully understand your summary of Dr. Perry's recommendation. But let me just say that we continue to work closely with Japan in this area. Wendy Sherman, our counselor, has had a number of trilateral meetings with Japan and South Korea.

As far as Japan's steps, I indicated our views on that in response to your colleague's question and I don't believe that our effort to talk to North Korea about the possibility of a high-level envoy coming to the United States and the fact that Japan has had this parliamentary delegation are either contradictory or inconsistent with Dr. Perry's recommendations.

QUESTION: Can you shed a new light on the discussions in the Security Council today about extending the deadline on the humanitarian program to -- (inaudible) -- some allies are wanting to extend it six months.

MR. RUBIN: Right. Our view is that we hope and expect that a growing number of countries will see the wisdom in moving to a vote on the comprehensive resolution on Iraq that deals with the humanitarian question of the Oil for Food program and allows an expansion of that program that deals with the need to get inspectors back to Iraq and that holds open the possibility of adjustment or a possible suspension of sanctions if Iraq allows the inspectors to come back, fulfills key disarmament tasks and cooperates for a certain period of time.

We think that that resolution has been discussed, debated, negotiated, mulled over, pored over, looked at, from every possible direction by the experts from all the countries for weeks and months now, and we think the time has come for the Council to act very, very, very soon. So we think if the Council can act on that resolution which includes the allowances for oil sales, there won't be a need to have a lengthy extension of the Oil for Food program.

I don't know what the ultimate decision of Council members about the Oil for Food program. We would certainly support those who have suggested that a short extension would be sufficient because we remain hopeful and believe strongly that a comprehensive resolution that deals both with the Oil for Food program and the inspectors could be acted on very quickly.

QUESTION: If this happens and the UN weapons inspectors are allowed back in, do you have reason to believe that this time the officials there will cooperate and that they will be able to do their job?

MR. RUBIN: We do believe it would be important for inspectors to return. We do have formidable capabilities to determine and analyze what goes on in Iraq of our own, but those capabilities would be greatly enhanced if there were inspectors on the ground. The best way to determine what goes on inside Iraq in the area of weapons of mass destruction is to have inspectors on the ground.

We have no illusions about the regime and their intentions. At various times they have cooperated, and at various times they have thwarted the will of the international community and refused to cooperate. We think the right next step is for the Council to rally around an approach that creates a new organization for inspections, that sets up a clear plan for what that organization will do, and then leave the question of whether Iraq will actually comply with the resolution to be tested by the actual return of the inspectors. We certainly would be reasonably placed in the camp of those who remain skeptical that they would fully cooperate with inspectors and that they would fulfill key disarmament tasks, but we'd love to be proved wrong on that.

QUESTION: You just mentioned the other capacities the US has right now. At this point, does Iraq have an ongoing weapons of mass destruction program?

MR. RUBIN: We believe - and are concerned - that Iraq has taken steps to reconstitute facilities that were destroyed in the Desert Fox military operation. We are concerned about that. We monitor it quite closely. We do not believe that they have crossed the red line that the President set out at the time of that military enterprise, and that is that they have reconstituted their weapons of mass destruction programs. We're concerned that they are repairing and rebuilding some facilities that could perhaps be used for that.

The best way to answer the question of what their programs have and don't have and what they're doing and not doing, as I indicated earlier, is to get the inspectors back.

QUESTION: I realize this is probably a dead end question, but I'm going to ask it anyway. There were reports out of the Middle East today that the US has offered up several new suggestions for resuming the Israeli-Syrian peace talks. The Secretary is going to be asking for answers on her trip next week. Is she going to be asking for or is she waiting to receive answers from --

MR. RUBIN: The details of what we do and don't do with Israel and Syria on trying to resume those talks, we do not believe it would be helpful to discuss in public. I can say that we do believe that there still exists a possibility and an opportunity for those talks to be resumed, and we will continue to work to get those talks resumed and to enable them to move quickly towards agreement until the day we conclude there is not such possibility or opportunity. We still believe there is a possibility. We will continue to do our work to try to capitalize on this opportunity and we still believe that's possible. Obviously we do a lot of work in that area, the specifics of which we do not think would be helpful to discuss in public.

QUESTION: Can you say, at least, if there were new ideas floating around?

MR. RUBIN: If I thought that it would be helpful to the talks, I would talk either procedurally or substantively about what we were doing. If I am advised that it won't be helpful to the talks for us to do that, I won't -- and so far as I know, I'm not supposed to.

QUESTION: The US Ambassador to Haiti resigned yesterday in what --

QUESTION: Have you seen the statement this morning after the meeting between Russian Foreign Minister Putin and Israeli Foreign Minister David Levy that Russia intends to reassert its role as co-chair of the Middle East mediations?

MR. RUBIN: There's nothing to reassert. Russia has always been a co-chair of the Middle East peace process that began in Madrid; they've been a co- chairman. I know that on many occasions the United States and Russia have consulted; worked together. We've been encouraged by the helpful way in which Russia has encouraged parties in the Middle East to move forward.

As far as whether that will affect the day-to-day operations that we here in the United States take, I wouldn't think so. But if there are ways in which the co-chairs can helpfully work together to advance our common objectives, we would be happy to do so. But in the meantime, Secretary Albright is going to be traveling to the Middle East this weekend working with Syria, Israel and the Palestinian Authority to try to move towards agreements in those areas.

QUESTION: When he said Russia is going to reassert its role, it appears to have meant that Russia is going to become more active than it has been in recent times. Is that going to be helpful, do you think?

MR. RUBIN: We haven't found Russia to be anything but helpful on the Middle East peace process in recent years, and Secretary Albright and Foreign Minister Ivanov usually have a very full and complete discussion about what we're doing; Ambassador Ross has briefed Russian officials about what he's doing and Russia is a co-chairman of the process. So we would welcome anything they can do to promote the kind of outcomes that we have been looking for.

Having said that, Secretary Albright intends to continue the path that she has chosen and will continue to have the meetings that she has chosen and will continue to put forward the proposals and ideas or suggestions or discussions that we had proposed, and we'll do that for its own sake.

QUESTION: Can I go back to the earlier question?

MR. RUBIN: Yes.

QUESTION: You said the diplomat in question has been given ten days to leave the country. Is this case now closed; there will not be retaliatory action against a Russian diplomat in Washington?

MR. RUBIN: I think that to answer that question in any way but to provide you with the facts as have occurred in Moscow would be crossing the line into beginning to address the question of the alleged intelligence issue. It is my understanding that this diplomat has been declared persona non grata and that she will be leaving - and those are the facts and I'm happy to confirm those facts for you.

QUESTION: The US Ambassador in Haiti --

MR. RUBIN: Are you on the same subject? We'll get back to Haiti.

QUESTION: On Russia.

MR. RUBIN: Fine. We'll get back to you there.

QUESTION: I asked a similar question yesterday but, once again, the Russians have rejected any kind of OSCE mediation in Chechnya. I'm just wondering, how long are you guys going to keep beating your heads against this brick wall trying to get them to do this? It has had zero effect thus far.

MR. RUBIN: I think you have wildly underestimated the effect that our policies have had. If you go back to the beginning of this conflict, there was a time at which it was quite clear that refugees and displaced persons were not being allowed to leave the sites of the battles, and we spoke out very strongly against that and we condemned that and we urged the Russians to allow the freedom of movement of people suffering from those military attacks.

And if you were to go to those camps where the people are now, I think they would have a very different view than you seem to have as to what effect our involvement had in terms of their ability to leave these areas, as a direct result of the international community's demands that Russia follow the international rules of conduct in this area, and that has had a significant effect.

With respect to the political question of Russia's moving towards a political solution, we have not had the same kind of direct impact. It is quite clear to us that the Russians made a commitment at Istanbul to allow a visit and to permit a visit by Knut Vollebaek, Norway's foreign minister, the OSCE Chairman-in-Office, to the North Caucasus, to the region. The summit declaration specifically says, "We welcome the agreement of the Russian Federation to a visit by the Chairman-in-Office to the region." The clear expectation of the member states at Istanbul was that this visit would take place as soon as possible after the Istanbul summit.

So that is our view. We fully expect Russia to live up to the agreements reached during the Istanbul summit. We understand other members of the OSCE who were part of this decision will be delivering the same message to Russia. Secretary Albright has raised this issue with Foreign Minister Ivanov in their telephone conversation yesterday and I expect will continue to raise it - and we do expect that visit to happen.

As I said yesterday, we don't get discouraged on any particular day when what we particularly want to happen hasn't yet happened; we try to continue to work the issue. That's what we do here.

Yes, we're going to Haiti, I believe.

MR. RUBIN: -- the issue. That's what we do here. We're going to Haiti, I believe.

QUESTION: Thanks. Just any comments on the resignation of Timothy Carney? Was this unexpected or abrupt, or do you have any explanation?

MR. RUBIN: I understand that it was considered a normal event. He resigned after 32 years in the foreign service, two years in Haiti. The President accepted his resignation effective at the end of this year. That's what I know about it, and if there's anything more that I can offer you I'll try to get it after the briefing.

QUESTION: On Colombia - first, Mexico returned to the United States' helicopters and now it is Colombia returning trucks.

MR. RUBIN: Is your question is about Colombia or Mexico?

QUESTION: It's related. And why the United States calls Mexico and Colombia its closest allies to combat narco-traffickers are given artifacts that doesn't work and to use those helicopters or trucks Mexico and Colombia need to spend a lot of money to fix them. So why is the United States giving this kind of artifacts?

MR. RUBIN: I don't understand. We're not giving any artifacts.

QUESTION: Well, you're giving helicopters that are not useful to the Mexican --

MR. RUBIN: Artifacts are an archeological term of art --

QUESTION: Well this kind of transportation --

MR. RUBIN: -- for something that is so old you have to test it with chemical testing. I know. I'd be happy to answer real questions, but questions loaded with that kind of language strike me as you already have the answer in your head so you really don't need my answer.

QUESTION: So are you planning to cooperate with Colombia in terms in giving what President Pastrana requested to the Clinton administration?

MR. RUBIN: Let me try to answer the question about Colombia. If you'd like an answer to the question about Mexican helicopters, I'd be happy to get you an answer about the Mexican helicopters. But that is a separate issue and I suspect that you were more interested in making an point than seeking an answer on the Mexican helicopters.

On the Colombia trucks, these trucks were provided as part of a Fiscal '98 counter-narcotics assistance package which allows for the provision of articles and services drawn down from the stocks of government agencies for counter-narcotics purposes. These trucks were provided to the Colombian army after close coordination between the Defense Department and the embassy. Equipment provided under such a drawdown is required to be in operational condition, thus not an artifact, but is not required to be new. If you're interested in a description of the exact age and capabilities and quality and specifics of the trucks, I am not a truck expert and I would urge you to go to the Pentagon to get that information.

With respect to the Colombian aid package more generally, President Clinton and Secretary Albright have made very clear that we are going to work with Congress in a bipartisan effort to support the Plan Colombia early in the new year. The President and the Secretary of State have communicated this commitment to President Pastrana. We are engaged in an intense multi-agency effort to develop a serious package to support Plan Colombia. This package would be an addition to considerable equipment and training upgrades such as Blackhawk helicopters, which are being delivered and deployed by the police. Additional support for the Colombian national police from the Colombian military is also part of President Pastrana's broad-based counter-narcotics strategy. We are discussing the specific details of this essential enhancement of resources with the Colombian police and military on a daily basis and have anticipate having a package responsive to their needs in the very near future.

QUESTION: On the first part - on the truck part - do you have any idea of why the US Government sent these 18 trucks in which the Colombian army and all their parts of the Colombian military say that it would cost them more money to fix them than to buy new ones. Why did that happen?

MR. RUBIN: Again, I think you probably will notice in response to the question before, if you're interested in a description of the physical condition of these trucks and whether those who are suggesting what you're asking are correct or maybe they can be used for spare parts and may end up being used for spare parts and may therefore be of net benefit to the Colombian army, if you really want to get into the truck issue in a detailed way, I'm not a truck expert and I can't make myself one overnight. So I recommend you ask the Pentagon - where there are a lot of military truck experts - and I'm sure they'd be happy to go into the question with you. The trucks are required to be, as I said, in operational condition pursuant to this program and the program was developed in close consultation with the Colombian army.

QUESTION: On the second part, on the -- (inaudible) - part. General McCaffrey criticized and blamed the US administration, even though he works for it, and Congress in a statement quoted by a Washington newspaper today.

MR. RUBIN: I looked for the quote that justified the lead in the headline. I didn't find it, so I think until you can give me a specific quote to justify the lead in the headline, I wouldn't accept your characterization.

QUESTION: Correct me if I'm wrong - and I'm sure you will.

MR. RUBIN: It's my day to correct.

QUESTION: You seem to be suggesting that the Colombians, especially the Colombian army, are somewhat ungrateful by saying that these - by wanting to return these trucks and saying --

MR. RUBIN: Well, I don't know what their real position is. You know, you hear from a particular officer or that particular officer, and I don't believe the Colombian army wants to return the trucks. There may be some grumbling and it's obvious that some people are picking up some of the grumbling, but our view is that we were trying to help and that we had an authority in addition to money to provide used trucks to help them.

QUESTION: So you don't think the Colombians are being ungrateful by --

MR. RUBIN: Right. Until I know there is an official position as opposed to grumbling by some who don't understand the program which is specifically designed - remember what we're doing here. If you don't have additional funds to provide Colombia because the allocations have maxed out, we look for other ways to help them. And if you have authority to provide additional vehicles and you can use that authority and if you didn't use it you provide no vehicles, people tried to help.

I explained the basis of the program, but if the specific vehicles in question were deemed by some to be not up their expectations, I would ask you to address the question of what "operational" means - because that's the standard - to the Pentagon who would be in a better position to answer that question.

QUESTION: In the case of the Mexican helicopters, is the United States going to give the Mexican authorities money to fix them or return -- fix them --

MR. RUBIN: I would have to get that answer for the record for you.

QUESTION: And if you'll allow me, I have one more on Cuba.

MR. RUBIN: You might say, and one more in the same vein.

QUESTION: Fidel Castro has just said that they found it was trying to form a plot in Miami to kill President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela. Do you have any comment on that?

MR. RUBIN: Mr. Castro has a history of making unfounded accusations against the United States. We are a country that respects the rule of law. We would be happy to see any detailed information on criminal behavior by US citizens that Castro would provide us and we would forward it to appropriate law enforcement agencies for analysis. There was no evidence provided in his particular claim and he does have this history of making unfounded allegations. But we, of course, would be happy to see any information to back it up rather than just generalizations of this kind.

QUESTION: A senior European Commission official has said that Yugoslav officials are deliberately stopping oil from reaching the -- (inaudible) -- . Do you have any reaction to that?

MR. RUBIN: Certainly it's our impression that a very generous humanitarian program that we were watching carefully that would provide heating oil to people in Nis has been blocked. And President Milosevic obviously doesn't care about whether his own people have enough heat as the winter approaches and it gets colder and colder; and if the Milosevic regime cared at all about the well being or warmth of its people, they would allow this generously provided heating oil to go forward.

QUESTION: What does this association say about the European's approach to sanctions against Milosevic?

MR. RUBIN: It was our view that we thought we were going to take a look at this pilot program to see if it worked; to see whether the heating oil could indeed get to the people and, based on its success, look at how we could approach other wider distribution of that heating oil. I don't think the story is over yet; clearly it hasn't yet reached its objective. But just as in the cast of the Russian OSCE mission and the mission to Chechnya and the case of the heating oil, persistence may pay off in the end.

QUESTION: Jamie, could I go back to Castro for a minute?

MR. RUBIN: We're really bouncing around - a global ping-pong ball.

QUESTION: Had he applied and been given a visa to Seattle, would that have granted him diplomatic immunity?

MR. RUBIN: I don't know the answer to that question and I will have to see whether our lawyers can come up with an answer to that question. I suspect it's a case of first impression but I'll check for you.

QUESTION: And while we're bouncing around, can I ask has there been a decision yet on the Sudanese food aid?

MR. RUBIN: No. I think yesterday I indicated that the bill was only passed this week; it's still this week and I wouldn't expect the answer to come in days. It's a complicated issue. I laid out some of the factors that need to be analyzed and so I wouldn't expect it to be one of those things that an instant decision is made.

QUESTION: And I'll stop asking if you promise to announce it when a decision is made.

MR. RUBIN: Well, announce is pretty tricky, but I can understand why you'll ask. Maybe we'll develop some code and you say Sudan and I say not yet and then we'll keep it going like that.

QUESTION: Can you confirm that the US interest section in Havana received letters from the grandparents of the boy who survived - who was picked up on Thanksgiving Day, I believe, in an inner tube?

MR. RUBIN: On December 27, the Cuban Government delivered a diplomatic note to the interest section in Havana seeking the child's return.

QUESTION: November?

MR. RUBIN: What did I say? Let me try that again. On November 27, the Cuban Government delivered a diplomatic note to the interest section in Havana seeking the child's return.

QUESTION: There have been no --

QUESTION: That's it?

MR. RUBIN: That's what the question was, right? Did the US receive a request.

QUESTION: No. There are reports today that his grandparents - both maternal and paternal grandparents - have asked in notes delivered to the US Government that the boy be returned to Havana.

MR. RUBIN: I'm not aware of what additional steps have been taken in that regard. With respect to this very tragic story, let me say that child custody is a complex legal issue in the United States and this issue is now governed by state law; in this case, Florida state law. We understand that the Immigration and Naturalization Service is consulting with appropriate state officials on this case and they would be the appropriate authorities to answer further questions on it.

MR. RUBIN: I will check whether additional material was provided to our interest section, but I suspect that it's going to be a regular process. I'm not sure each piece of paper I'll be able to report to you. But in this case, I'll make an extra special effort.

QUESTION: Can we go back to Africa? Do you have any comment on these reports that the government of the Democratic Republic of Congo is recruiting American mercenaries, including from a firm just across the river?

MR. RUBIN: Yes. I see these reports from time to time out of Africa. I don't know that I have anything to offer on them. It's not an uncommon report to claim that everything that happens in Africa - southern Africa - by some is claimed or is the result of mercenaries from South Africa or other parts of the world.

QUESTION: No, I mean specifically the --

MR. RUBIN: I understand you question. And it's not always possible for us to confirm these facts, especially if they involve individuals who wouldn't be reporting to us what they are doing. But I can certainly inquire as to this specific case for you and try to get an answer.

QUESTION: One follow-up on the Middle East. You said a few days ago that the US hopes Israel and the Palestinians will be able to resolve their dispute over the five percent by themselves. There's really no time left before the Secretary arrives -- Sabbath tomorrow and things like that - so she's going to have to focus on that. Will she be satisfied getting a solution on that, and can you say anything concrete that she's going to try and do to further final status talks?

MR. RUBIN: Today is Thursday. Secretary Albright is leaving Sunday night; will be in Saudi Arabia and Syria before she goes to Israel. I guess she arrives in Israel Tuesday night if I have my dates correctly. So there are several days remaining for the issue to be resolved and it remains our hope that the issue be resolved. That doesn't mean that we have any sort of guarantee that it will be resolved and we'll have to see what the situation is when we get there.

With respect to the goal and focus of the trip remains the important need to try to ascertain a work plan and an approach that will make it possible for the February goal of a Framework Agreement for the permanent status talks to be achieved. If you want to look at the calendar in that regard, you will also see that we're starting to measure that in weeks, not months any longer, and it has involved some excruciatingly difficult and emotional issues - the permanent status talks - whether that be water or refugees, the question of Jerusalem, the entity, et cetera.

So Secretary Albright will try and be both making an assessment of what the prospects are to reach that agreement in February and also to try to make a determination of how we, the United States, can best be helpful in assisting the parties in achieving that goal. Beyond that, I don't think it would be appropriate to comment in advance.

(The briefing concluded at 1:30 P.M.)


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