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Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Pempth, 10 Febroyarioy 2011

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 10 Febroyarioy 2011

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

H megalh pleiochfia twn politwn sth dyskolh sygkyria poy biwnei h xwra, sthrizei, qelei, epidiwkei thn allagh twn pragmatwn pros to kalytero. H megalh pleiochfia protassei to koino kalo kai th syllogikh prokoph enanti twn syntexniakwn symferontwn kai oswn jeboleyontai apo th mexri twra pronomiakh katastash poy briskontan.

Me kaqe tropo proaspizoyme to eqniko symferon kai thn asfaleia toy 'Ellhna polith. Giati h prostasia kai h enisxysh twn Ellhnwn politwn, se periodo malista krishs, exei amesh sxesh me thn koinwnikh synoxh. Thn ergasiakh asfaleia poy katoxyrwnoyme me th lhch metrwn gia th diathrhsh ths ergasias ston idiwtiko tomea.

To anoigma twn kleistwn epaggelmatwn gia thn eleyqerh kai diafanh prosbash twn sympolitwn mas se ayta. Thn poiotikh anabaqmish ths prwtobaqmias ygeionomikhs periqalchs me thn prosbash twn politwn se pentaplasioys pleon giatroys poy shmera den prostateyoyn thn paroxh ygeias pros toys polites.

Thn asfalistikh prostasia twn politwn me th dhmioyrgia enos biwsimoy asfalistikoy systhmatos, poy eggyatai tis syntajeis olwn kai twn parontwn kai twn epomenwn genewn.

Thn koinwnikh dikaiosynh me to xtyphma ths forodiafyghs, toys synexeis elegxoys kai fysika th logodosia ths ejoysias sthn koinwnia kai th diafaneia ston dhmosio bio, wste oloi na jeroyn pws, poy kai pote jodeyontai ta xrhmata apo toys foroys poy kataballoyn.

Prostateyoyme kai eggyomaste tis qysies aytwn akribws twn politwn. Ajiopoioyme toys kopoys toys me anaptyjiakh prooptikh kai sebasmo sto dhmosio xrhma. Den distasame kai den distazoyme na sygkroysqoyme me katesthmena, me syntexnies, me bolemenoys, me paragontes, akomh kai politikoys paragontes, poy epiqymoyn th stasimothta kai antitiqentai se kaqe prospaqeia proodoy ths idias ths koinwnias.

H kybernhsh, estw kai mesa se ayth th dyskolh periodo poy dianyoyme, proaspizei kai qa synexisei na proaspizei to synoliko symferon kai qa exei apenanti ths tis syntexnies kai th synthrhsh. Doyleyoyme gia to dhmosio kalo kai gia thn prostasia olwn twn politwn.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SPANOY: Ef' oson den ejasfalisete th synainesh twn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs gia to mesoproqesmo dhmosionomiko plaisio poy ftanei mexri to 2015, qa zhthsete nea laikh nomimopoihsh;

PETALWTHS: Emeis kanoyme mia emprosqobarh politikh. Gia prwth fora h ellhnikh kybernhsh, to ellhniko kratos apokta enan oikonomiko programmatismo kai enan oikonomiko sxediasmo me prooptikh xronwn. Jefeygoyme apo to na blepoyme mono ton epomeno mhna h ton epomeno xrono kai dhmioyrgoyme prooptikh sthn oikonomikh staqerothta ths xwras mas. Epeidh, omws, ayth h staqerothta kai ayth h prooptikh yperbainei ton xrono mias koinoboyleytikhs qhteias kai mias kybernhshs, einai epomeno oti kai synaineseis qa zhthsoyme alla kai qa proskalesoyme oles tis politikes dynameis, oytws wste apo oloys mas epiteloys, na yparxei ypeyqynothta. Ean qeloyme h xwra mas na proodeyei, na odeyei me ena programmatiko plaisio to opoio einai melethmeno, to opoio den einai proskairo kai proxeiro, opws polles fores ginotan mexri twra, qa prepei oloi na synaisqanqoyme tis eyqynes mas kai na symbaloyme wste na yparxei aytos o makroxronios programmatismos. Ayto, bebaia, den shmainei nomimopoihsh me thn ennoia poy to anaferete. H eklogikh kai h laikh nomimopoihsh yparxei kai malista poly prosfata dosmenh stis aytodioikhtikes ekloges apo ton ellhniko lao. Ayto einai kati perissotero. Den exei sxesh me ekloges kai me senaria ta opoia h idia h N.D. - gia na prospaqhsei na perixarakwsei toys boyleytes ths kai toys chfoforoys ths - diakinei. Kai ayto einai jekaqaro. Emeis doyleyoyme me prooptikh kai den doyleyoyme gia to steno kommatiko mas symferon. 'Exw pei epaneilhmmenws kai to epanalambanw: Oti h megalh mas diafora me th N.D. einai oti enw emeis doyleyoyme gia th xwra, h N.D. doyleyei mono gia to komma ths. Einai eykairia kai epibeblhmeno ayto na allajei. 'Oles oi politikes dynameis mazi na synaisqanqoyn to megeqos ths eyqynhs poy exoyme oloi mas kai na symbaloyn sto plaisio ayto. Kai fysika oloi krinomaste gia th stash poy deixnoyme panw se tetoioy eidoys shmantika zhthmata.

MPEQANH: Ap' o,ti blepoyme sto reportaz, pantws, apo ton xwro ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs ayto poy lene einai oti oi protaseis ths N.D. gia ejodo ths xwras apo thn krish einai gnwstes, tis exoyn pei kat' epanalhch kai oti h kybernhsh qa eprepe hdh na tis exei efarmosei.

PETALWTHS: H N.D. afoy talanteyqhke kai talanteyetai sto ti na pei kai sto pws na ejhghsei ayth th steira, ypotiqetai, antimnhmoniakh ths politikh, poy akomh kai ta idia ta stelexh ths kai oi boyleytes ths diapistwnoyn oti den bgazei poyqena, exei kanei kapoies protaseis oi opoies einai toso qewrhtikes, poy den einai efarmosimes. Shmera, otan mila kaneis gia to pws na jeperasoyme thn krish kai na yparjei anaptyjh - les kai h anaptyjh einai toso genikh kai aoristh kai yparxei magikh syntagh thn opoia den mas thn exei pei akomh h N.D. - h oti qa jeperasoyme thn krish ean ajiopoihsoyme th dhmosia perioysia, kati poy safws einai epibeblhmeno kai to leme kai to kanoyme ki emeis, alla den exei braxyproqesma apotelesmata, tote aytes oi protaseis einai pragmatika ftwxes. Einai protaseis poy den bgazoyn th xwra apo thn krish kai perimenoyme symbolh me pragmatikes protaseis, me pragmatikh syzhthsh. Kati, omws, to opoio proypoqetei oti kai h N.D., epiteloys, na synaisqanqei tis eyqynes ths kai na apokthsei politikh kai mia mono glwssa apenanti sth diglwssia poy emfanizei sto eswteriko kai sto ejwteriko. H adynamia ths sto na exei mia staqerh politikh grammh, fanhke kai fainetai kai twra sth megalh antidrash poy jeshkwnei h ypoqalptei ston xwro ths Ygeias, opoy apo th mia, dhqen, den sthrizei tis katalhceis kai apo thn allh ta prwtoklasata stelexh ths briskontai ekei kai malista o koinoboyleytikos ths ekproswpos k. Markopoylos poy prwtos episkefqhke kai ekane kai dhlwseis sto kateilhmmeno amfiqeatro toy ypoyrgeioy Ygeias. Apo thn allh, fysika, apofeygei na katadikasei aytes tis katalhceis, estw ki an leei oti den einai yper twn katalhcewn. As apokthsei, kapote, politikh grammh. Na to kanei, oxi gia to symferon ths N.D., alla gia to symferon ths xwras.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, anagnwrizw oti gia na paraithqei enas ypoyrgos prepei na proyparjei momfh kai oxi apla h ekklhsh enos koinoboyleytikoy ekproswpoy. Alla, sthn oysia toy qematos, den qymizei ligo praktikes kakes, sthn prosfath istoria ths xwras, h apagoreysh synaqroisewn, estw kai konta sta synora;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, o tropos poy paroysiazetai toso apo th N.D., alla kai apo alles politikes dynameis einai yperaploysteytikos kai den exei sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. H qesh h dikh mas einai jekaqarh: Oloi oi ergazomenoi, oloi oi epaggelmaties, oloi oi Ellhnes polites, exoyn safestata to dikaiwma na diadhlwnoyn. Fysika, omws, yparxei kai ena metro. Emeis se ayth thn periodo ths krishs poy biwnei h xwra mas, etsi opws einai kai oi dieqneis isorropies, den qa epitrecoyme na kleisoyn synora apo mia omada agrotwn, toys opoioys h N.D., akribws, parakinei gia na kleisoyn ta synora ston Promaxwna kai na yparjei problhma sto eswteriko ths xwras mas, alla kai problhma me th geitonikh Boylgaria. Kai as qymhqoyme ti egine prin apo ena xrono. Den prokeitai gia mia genikeymenh antidrash twn agrotwn. Prokeitai gia mia omada agrotwn toys opoioys h N.D. yperaspizetai me tetoio sqenos kai me tetoio qrasos fraseologias, poy pragmatika mas ekplhssei. Einai xreos diko mas, ma panw ap` ola, einai eqniko symferon na mhn kleisoyn ta synora ston Promaxwna kai malista apo mia mikrh omada. Den yphrxe apagoreysh ths synaqroishs. Yparxoyn metra, ta opoia apotrepoyn ton apokleismo twn synorwn, epi polles hmeres, opws egine perysi kai qymomaste to ti akribws synebh kai ti apotelesmata eixame. Apo ekei kai pera, pragmatika to na erxetai h N.D. kai na xrhsimopoiei mia akraia fraseologia, opws ``eptaetia'', ``fasismos'', ``antidhmokratikos kathforos'', einai pragmatika ajio periergeias, alla kai qrasos. H N.D. gnwrizoyme poly kala, oti ekfrazei mia paratajh h opoia exei taytistei, edw kai polles dekaeties, me tis xeiroteres katastaseis ths xwras mas, se epipedo dhmokratikwn eleyqeriwn. H mnhmh twn politwn kai ths istorias toy topoy aytoy einai prosfath kai katagegrammenh. Ara, ta peri antidhmokratikoy kathforoy kai ta peri fasismoy, emeis ta epistrefoyme, se opoion akribws mas ta leei. Kai otan ta isxyrizetai h N.D. qa prepei kai ligo na ntrepetai.

PAPPA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, hqela na epanelqw sto arxiko erwthma kai oson afora thn proqesh ths kybernhshs na zhthsei synainesh apo ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs gia programmatismo poy prepei na paei mexri to 2015. Eseis lete oti -anejarthta apo to an h N.D. ypokinei h oxi senaria eklogwn- yperbainei th qhteia ayths ths kybernhshs. Qelw na rwthsw, loipon, se periptwsh poy ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs den symfwnhsoyn, poia einai h proqesh ths kybernhshs oson afora thn eklogikh anametrhsh;

PETALWTHS: Einai jekaqaro oti den yparxei qema prokhryjhs eklogwn. Einai jekaqaro, giati to eqniko symferon mas odhgei akribws sto antiqeto. Briskomaste sth mesh mias poreias h opoia einai poly krisimh gia thn ejodo apo thn krish gia th xwra mas. Peiramatismoys den shkwnei h katastash kai poly perissotero oi Ellhnes polites. Opoios qelei na kanei ekloges, as bgei na to zhthsei. Emeis leme, omws, oti den yparxei kanenas logos, oyte kan na ginetai syzhthsh peri eklogwn. Gi` ayto pisteyoyme oti ta senaria peri prowrwn eklogwn dioxeteyontai apo sygkekrimenoys politikoys xwroys kai gia sygkekrimenoys, idioys, logoys. Ayto poy exoyme na kanoyme - kai to kanoyme - einai na prospaqoyme na palecoyme gia na bgaloyme th xwra apo thn krish, kanontas sygxronws poly megales allages, poy oxi aplws qa epanaferoyn th xwra sta palia - giati den mas arkei ayto, oyte to qeloyme- alla qa feroyn mia Ellada h opoia qa einai allagmenh, qwrakismenh, apallagmenh apo tis paqogeneies, etsi wste na mhn janasymbei ayto kai na yparxei kai koinwnikh dikaiosynh se o,ti ginetai. Ta peri prowrwn eklogwn den mas aforoyn. Emeis, akribws, kai me to mesoproqesmo dhmosionomiko qema to opoio egeiroyme kai to opoio qa prepei na exei orizontai mexri to 2015, apallassoyme apo ta eklogika kai ta mikrokommatika paixnidia thn poreia ths xwras. Gi` ayto leme oti me eyqynh ths kybernhshs - giati h kybernhsh einai ayth h opoia apofasizei- alla kai me thn apaitoymenh symbolh apo tis politikes dynameis kai oles tis dynameis toy topoy, qa prepei na xarajoyme ena programma poy qa einai to programma to opoio qa isxysei akribws meta to mnhmonio, poy exei xrono lhjhs, opws gnwrizoyme, to 2013.

MARAQIAS: Dhladh, h kybernhsh einai apofasismenh na proxwrhsei akomh kai an den exei th synainesh twn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs.

PETALWTHS: Emeis th synainesh th zhtoysame apo thn prwth stigmh, akomh kai otan den eixe koryfwqei h diaxeirish ths krishs. Apo ekei kai pera, h synainesh einai to zhtoymeno, ena diarkes zhtoymeno. Yparxei tropos na yparxei synainesh. Fysika, h kybernhsh proxwraei, opws proxwraei kai twra, xwris na exei th symbolh kai th synainesh twn ypoloipwn kommatwn. Alla, epeidh kapote qa prepei na synaisqanqoyme oloi tis eyqynes mas, qa prepei, pragmatika, ayth h synainesh - kai yparxoyn oi ajones opoy qa mporoyse na yparxei synainesh - na ginei prajh. Kaqenas na diathrhsei tis epifylajeis toy, tis ideologikes toy proseggiseis, th diaforetikh toy politikh, ayto einai dedomeno, apo ekei kai pera, omws, se shmantika zhthmata ths dhmosionomikhs poreias kai ths oikonomikhs poreias ths xwras, yparxoyn oi ajones poy mporoyme na symfwnhsoyme. Alla, oytws h allws, ayto ginetai. Qa ginei.

PAPPA: To mesoproqesmo dhmosionomiko plaisio poy syzhthqhke xqes sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai kata ypoyrgoys ths kybernhshs, opws allwste anaferqhke kai xqes, egeirei ena qema koinoboyleytikhs tajhs. Protiqetai h kybernhsh na to ferei sth Boylh; Poia einai h diadikasia dhladh poy qa akoloyqhsei;

PETALWTHS: Th diadikasia qa thn kaqorisei to armodio ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn. Fysika, qa yparxei apofash. Xqes egine mia enhmerwsh, aplws. Den yphrje kapoia apofash sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio poy na prosdiorizei thn akribh poreia toy mesoproqesmoy programmatismoy poy qa fqanei mexri to 2015. Den egeirontai, fysika, qemata koinoboyleytikhs tajhs. Aplws, ekeino to opoio eipwqhke kai eipwqhke kai apo ton eishghth armodio ypoyrgo Oikonomikwn k. Papakwnstantinoy, alla fysika kai apo toys alloys ypoyrgoys einai oti, epeidh yperbainei thn koinoboyleytikh qhteia poy orizetai apo to Syntagma qa prepei na yparxei problech, wste na yparxei synainesh. Kai fysika, qa einai jekaqaro oti qa akoloyqhqei ekeinh h diadikasia poy na katoxyrwnei kai ta koinoboyleytika dedomena. Emeis mexri stigmhs, milame gia enhmerwsh. Kai einai shmantiko oti anoigei mia syzhthsh me prwtoboylia ths kybernhshs, etsi wste na fqasoyme se mia politikh h opoia phgainei mprosta kai pragmatika mas bgazei apo ta adiejoda toy parelqontos, apoktwntas epiteloys sxediasmo gia na fqasoyme fysika kai sthn ylopoihsh.

MARAQIAS: O dialogos, poy desmeythke xqes o k. Papakwnstantinoy sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, me ta kommata kai h enhmerwsh qa ginei pros toys arxhgoys twn kommatwn; Qa doqei ayto to keimeno; Qa yparxoyn synanthseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys arxhgoys twn kommatwn gi` ayton ton dialogo kai me skopo th synainesh gia to mesoproqesmo sxedio;

PETALWTHS: Den exei apofasistei akomh. Qa yparjei, omws, ekeinh h diadikasia poy qa einai h pio dhmokratikh, ekeinos o tropos me ton opoio qa anoigei to olo sxedio ths mesoproqesmhs politikhs. Kai me ton kalytero tropo qa apofasistei pws mporei na ylopoihqei kati tetoio. Den yparxei, omws, akomh apofash sxediasmoy.

MARAQIAS: Exei dhmioyrghqei kapoios qorybos, megalos mallon, kai anhsyxia stoys ergazomenoys -isws kai alles omades poy kinhtopoioyntai ayto ton kairo- me aformh tis askhseis poy pragmatopoiei o stratos sto Kilkis, gia paradeigma, opoy fainontai dynameis toy stratoy na epitiqentai enantion omadas diadhlwtwn. Ayto gia poio logo ginetai; Kapoioi malista syndeoyn oles aytes tis askhseis kai me thn epikeimenh panergatikh apergia stis 23 Febroyarioy.

PETALWTHS: Ta senaria poy kykloforoyn genikws einai polla kai kapoia eyfantasta apo thn aplh pragmatikothta. H aplh pragmatikothta einai oti ginetai mia programmatismenh stratiwtikh askhsh, h askhsh ``Kallimaxos'' opws exei onomastei apo to armodio ypoyrgeio, poy exei na kanei me symbatikh ypoxrewsh ths xwras mas, sto plaisio ths ekpaideyshs toy proswpikoy ths sygkekrimenhs tajiarxias, prokeimenoy na mporesei na ekplhrwsei thn apostolh ths, se periptwsh symmetoxhs ths tajiarxias sthn HELBROC poy einai mia omada opoy symmetexoyn h Ellada, h Boylgaria, h Roymania kai h Kypros, me antikeimeno thn prolhch twn krisewn, to diaxwrismo antimaxomenwn dynamewn, th staqeropoihsh, thn anoikodomhsh kai thn paroxh - kyriws- bohqeias se anqrwpistikes epixeirhseis. Malista, gia na yparjei emplokh aytwn twn dynamewn, qa shmeiwsoyme oti apaiteitai analhch kai diejagwgh aytwn twn epixeirhsewn, meta apo chfisma apo to Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE kai aithma toy OHE pros thn E.E. Mia synhqismenh kai mia klasikh periptwsh askhshs poy exei na kanei me thn anqrwpistikh apostolh kai me ta ypoloipa poy sas anefera. Nomizw oti einai teleiws aparadekto na syndeetai me kinhtopoihseis ergazomenwn h me laikes kinhtopoihseis, tis opoies emeis safestata sebomaste kai den exei kamia sxesh to ena me to allo.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Fantazomai, ayth h prolhch krisewn, h anoikodomhsh, o diaxwrismos twn antimaxomenwn pleyrwn einai gia to ejwteriko.

PETALWTHS: Einai sto plaisio sygkekrimenwn apostolwn.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Sto ejwteriko, ayto lew.

PETALWTHS: Nai. Yparxei mia ``tetraeqnhs'' poy apoteleitai apo tis 4 aytes xwres poy sas eipa, h opoia entassetai sto plaisio twn apostolwn poy analambanei, opws sas proanefera.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Moy kanei entypwsh, giati o k. Mpegliths sth Boylh epifylaxqhke na apanthsei, legontas ``qa rwthsw kai qa sas pw'' kai dietaje th diakoph ths askhshs.

PETALWTHS: Egw ayth thn enhmerwsh exw, thn opoia kai sas anefera.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Yparxei periptwsh aytes oi dynameis na xrhsimopoihqoyn kai gia to eswteriko ths xwras;

PETALWTHS: Oi dynameis aytes exoyn na kanoyn monon me sygkekrimenh apostolh kai ypo tis aysthres proypoqeseis toy aithmatos apo thn Eyrwpaikh 'Enwsh na yparxei chfisma toy Organismoy Hnwmenwn Eqnwn. Sthn perioxh mas kai sth xwra mas, den nomizw oti qa doyme, sta epomena xronia, tetoioy eidoys anagkaiothtes. Kai einai jekaqaro oti tetoioy eidoys anagkaiothtes qa antimetwpisqoyn opoy yparxei anagkh na antimetwpisqoyn. Alla sth xwra mas, eytyxws, den yparxei tetoia anagkaiothta kai oyte problepetai na yparxei.

MARAQIAS: Prosfata, taytopoihqhkan oi drastes enantion ths epiqeshs toy Alekoy Alabanoy, paramones twn dhmotikwn eklogwn. 'Hqela na rwthsw parempiptontws an exoyme stoixeia gia twra h diaforetika se epomenh mera, pws pane oi ereynes gia ton adiko xamo twn triwn ypallhlwn ths MARFIN kai ths epiqeshs ston boyleyth ths N.D., ton k. Xatzhdakh;

PETALWTHS: Afora tis diwktikes Arxes, metajy twn opoiwn kai thn Eisaggelia. Kai oi anakoinwseis ginontai apo ekei. Ean yparxei kati, qa anakoinwqei deontws, opws anakoinwqhke kai h taytopoihsh twn atomwn poy epiteqhkan ston k. Alabano.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, doqhkan shmera ta stoixeia ths Statistikhs Yphresias gia thn anergia poy deixnoyn mia ayjhmenh tash, einai sto 13,9% sthn Ellada. Thn idia wra, se mia apanthsh poy doqhke apo thn Commission ston eyrwboyleyth ths N.D., ton k. Papastamko, fanhke oti se antiqesh me 5 xwres, oi 3 ek twn opoiwn briskontai se ejairetika kalyterh oikonomikh periodo apo emas, exoyn kanei aithsh kai exoyn parei xrhmata, milaw gia kapoia ekatommyria apo to eyrwpaiko tameio prosarmoghs sthn pagkosmiopoihsh, an kala to qymamai. Yparxei kapoia apanthsh, giati emeis den exoyme kanei antistoixh kinhsh;

PETALWTHS: Ontws, ayta ta stoixeia dhmosieyqhkan nomizw shmera. Ekeino poy exw na pw kai einai shmantiko einai pws exoyme pleon stoixeia ta opoia emeis, opws kai oi etairoi mas, alla kyriws emeis, oi 'Ellhnes polites, ta pisteyoyme. Einai stoixeia ta opoia den ``mageireyontai'', opws ginotan epi N.D. 'Allwste, emeis eixame desmeytei proeklogika kai to throyme twra poy exoyme th diakybernhsh ths xwras, oti den qa kalyptoyme ta problhmata, oti qa ta apotypwnoyme gia na mporoyme na ta lynoyme.

Ws pros to megeqos ths anergias, einai logiko, otan yparxei yfesh, na yparxei ayjhsh ths anergias. Ayto kai to perimename kai to gnwrizoyme.

Apo ekei kai pera, emeis, me mia seira apo energeies poy exoyn na kanoyn perissotero me to ypoyrgeio Ergasias kai me prometwpida ton Organismo Apasxolhshs Ergatikoy Dynamikoy (OAED), kaqorizoyme politikes prostasias ths ergasias, diathrhshs qesewn apasxolhshs kai enisxyshs epixeirhsewn, prokeimenoy, me diaforoys tropoys, na kratoyn tis qeseis ergasias. Fysika kai gia toys anergoys yparxei mia analogh politikh antimetwpish toy problhmatos. Sto proanaferqen plaisio, ejantloyntai ola ta yfistamena periqwria, etsi wste to dikaiwma sthn ergasia kai oi qeseis ergasias na prostateyontai.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo apogeyma. --1427249692-601122733-1297373867=:22289--

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