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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 2 Dekembrioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 238406435

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 2 Dekembrioy 2009

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

Thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, otan kyriarxoysan diafora senaria katastrofologias gia tis prooptikes kai tis dynatothtes ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, to mhnyma ths kybernhshs pros toys polites htan jekaqaro: H ellhnikh oikonomia, h Ellada mporei kai qa anakthsei thn ajiopistia ths. H Ellada qa anakamcei, giati exoyme sxedio poy epikyrwse me thn chfo toy o ellhnikos laos. Sxedio gia noikokyrema, anadianomh kai anaptyjh. Perasame ena skopelo me sxedio, taxythta kai apofasistikothta. Osoi ependysan sta senaria katastrofhs ths ellhnikhs oikonomias kai osoi proeblepan oti h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh qa mas epestrefe ton Proypologismo, ekanan laqos. Bebaiws, o dhmosionomikos ektroxiasmos toy teleytaioy diasthmatos exei dhmioyrghsei mia poly dyskolh katastash, thn opoia kaloymaste na antimetwpisoyme oloi mas. Kai malista kaqe mera.

Me ton Proypologismo poy kataqesame kai poy para tis dyskolies sthrizei thn anaptyjh, thn anadianomh, opws yposxeqhkame, arxisame to noikokyrema twn oikonomikwn. Me to programma staqerothtas poy qa ypobaloyme, qa kanoyme ena akomh shmantiko bhma gia thn anakamch ths oikonomias mas kai thn anakthsh ths ajiopistias ths xwras mas. O dromos gnwrizoyme oti einai makrys kai dyskolos, alla qa ta kataferoyme.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

TOYMASHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, epeidh opws oloi gnwrizoyme sto nhpiagwgeio oi moytzoyres epitrepontai kai sto dhmotiko einai anekto apo toys daskaloys to grace sbhse, enw sto gymnasio kai to lykeio qewreitai laqos, otan mia kybernhsh to meshmeri ths mias meras anakoinwnei ta proswpa poy empisteyetai na ylopoihsoyn thn politikh ths kai to idio brady moytzoyrwnei thn eikona, sbhnontas ena apo ayta, qa hqela na sas rwthsw me ton proshkonta sebasmo an h diorqwsh ayth qa prepei epiteloys na synodeyetai me mia kaqarh kai entimh omologia toy sfalmatos h h kybernhsh mas synexizei na akkizetai oti einai alanqasth h enas kybernhtikos neossos, 60 molis hmerwn;

PETALWTHS: Aytes einai dikes sas kriseis. Anafereste profanws ston orismo toy Eidikoy Grammatea k. Koytoyph.

TOYMASHS: Akribws gi` ayto anaferomai.

PETALWTHS: Ayto poy exoyme na poyme einai oti egine mia epilogh me th gnwsth diadikasia, sthn opoia emmenoyme. Kai einai mia apodeijh ths diafaneias poy yparxei se ayth th diadikasia. Efoson, omws, tiqentai qemata hqoys kai diafaneias, emeis den kanoyme kamia ekptwsh. H sygkekrimenh periptwsh, o sygkekrimenos Eidikos Grammateas aneptyje mia drash, thn opoia molis plhroforhqhkame, eixame kai thn analogh antidrash. Akribws, ayth h amesh antidrash mas einai kai h apodeijh toy poso diafanhs kai jekaqarh einai ayth h diadikasia.

SIDERHS: Katanoeite oti proslambanei stoixeia ilarothtas ayth h diadikasia; Kai peraiterw, afoy h oikonomia einai sthn entatikh exei thn polyteleia o k. Papakwnstantinoy na kaqetai na ejetazei biografika ``Koytoyphdwn'';

PETALWTHS: ``Ilarothta'' thn apokaleite eseis, etsi; Exoyme mia teleiws diaforetikh antilhch, thn opoia epimerizetai kai symmerizetai kai o ellhnikos laos. Jekinhsame mia ejairetika kainotomo diadikasia me diafaneia, ajiokratia, logodosia. Kai me ayth proxwrame mexri stigmhs. O k. Papakwnstantinoy kanei ena ejairetika shmantiko ergo, entos Ellados kai ektos Ellados. Kai emeis den prokeitai na apostoyme apo ayto.

SIDERHS: Na rwthsw kai kati allo; Afoy o k. Prwqypoyrgos den empisteyetai to komma toy, na balei apo to komma toy kai apo ton perirreonta kyklo Genikoys Grammateis, giati na to empisteytoyme emeis;

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei kamia tetoia qewrhsh oti o Prwqypoyrgos den empisteyetai to komma toy. Ejhghsame tis arxes ayths ths diadikasias. Tis ejhghsame kai prin apo tis ekloges, tis ejhgoyme, tis analyoyme kai tis ylopoioyme mexri shmera.

SWKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, apo poion qa zhthsei eyqynes o Prwqypoyrgos, gi` ayth thn gkafa poy ekqetei thn kybernhsh; Kai epipleon, gnwrizate oti o k. Koytoyphs htan stelexos ths Neas Dhmokratias;

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei qema eyqynwn. H anakoinwsh exei ekdoqei. Th diabasate, thn exete sta xeria sas. Apanthsa prohgoymenws kai to qema gia mas exei ejantlhqei.

SWKOS: H politikh toy topoqethsh epaije rolo;

PETALWTHS: Sas eipa oti to qema ejantlhqhke.

KAMPOYRAKHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, dyo erwthseis: Anejarthta me tis arxes ayths ths diadikasias, hqela na moy peite ean h kybernhsh exei deyteres skeceis gia th diadikasia ths diadikasias kai deyteron, an yparxei etero qema, me etero Grammatea ton k. Pentazo.

PETALWTHS: Emeis emmenoyme se ayth th diadikasia. Htan epilogh mas. H diadikasia ayth einai kainotomos, proxwraei kai apodeiknyei th diafaneia ths stelexwshs toy dhmosioy tomea pros ta ejw. Akomh kai se ayth thn periptwsh einai mia apodeijh. Gia qema alloy Genikoy Grammatea, den exw na sas pw tipote, ennoeitai.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Ep` aytoy, gia na to ejantlhsoyme ayto kyrie Ekproswpe. O k. Pentazos, o Genikos Grammateas Dhmosionomikhs Politikhs, yphrje synergaths toy k. Fwlia, gia ena xrono. To jerei ayto h kybernhsh; Giati den anaferetai sto biografiko poy anakoinwse. Rwtw aplws, an to jerei. To gnwrizei;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola yparxei kai allh diastash sto zhthma, etsi opws to lete kai den einai swsto na apomonwnoyme mia drash enos Genikoy Grammatea. Ta krithria poy balame, htan krithria oysiastikwn prosontwn, politikhs drashs, politikhs empeirias kai koinwnikhs prosforas. Me ayta ta krithria proxwrame.

MAKRYGIANNHS: To gnwrizete; Sas rwtaw kai pali: To gnwrizate;

PETALWTHS: Sas apanthsa.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Den to gnwrizate, dhladh.

PETALWTHS: Sas apanthsa.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Giati den anaferetai sto biografiko poy anakoinwqhke; Na jeroyme kai emeis. Eseis mporei na to gnwrizete h na mh to gnwrizete, alla emeis...

PETALWTHS: Thn eyqynh toy biografikoy thn exei aytos, ston opoio afora.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Eseis anakoinwsate to biografiko kyrie Ekproswpe.

PETALWTHS: Emeis me ta krithria poy exoyme, kaname thn epilogh sthn opoia emmenoyme, gia ton k. Pentazo.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mhpws telika me th diadikasia ayth, anti na epilegontai oi ``aristoi'', epilegontai oi ``akatallhloi''; Giati, o kyrios aytos, ton opoio ton prolabate telos pantwn, eixe mpei mesa gia na ta oikonomhsei. Posoi alloi exoyn mpei mesa gia na ta oikonomhsoyn;

PETALWTHS: Molis antilhfqhkame ayth th drash toy kai th symperifora toy, antidrasame analogws, anakalwntas ton orismo toy ws Genikoy Grammatea, amesws.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Thn apofash gia na apomakrynqei o k. Koytoyphs thn phre o k. Papakwnstantinoy, aytos to zhthse, thn phre to Megaro Majimoy, h epitroph poy ajiologhse ta biografika; Mporeite na mas peite;

PETALWTHS: To qema exei ejantlhqei. As meinoyme sthn apofash anaklhshs.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Nai. Poios phre thn apofash, omws;

PETALWTHS: Sas apanthsa.

MIXAHL: Proxqes, otan anakoinwqhke h topoqethsh toy k. Koytoyph, anakoinwqhke me to nomimo kaqierwmeno tropo, dhladh, oti einai mia koinh apofash toy armodioy Ypoyrgoy kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy. O Prwqypoyrgos, otan apokalyfqhkan ta stoixeia gia ton k. Koytoyph, enhmerwqhke kai edwse entolh na akyrwqei o diorismos toy; H o k. Papandreoy to emaqe, afoy synebhsan ta osa synebhsan;

PETALWTHS: To qema exei ejantlhqei.

PAPPA: Peran twn ajiokratikwn krithriwn poy eipate, h qesh toy Genikoy Grammatea einai kai politikh qesh, qesh politikhs eyqynhs. Exei apofasisei h kybernhsh na kanei anoigma kai se alloys politikoys xwroys apo th qesh ayth; Kai deyteron, symfwna me ta stoixeia ths aithshs poy ypobaloyn osoi endiaferontai gia th qesh toy Genikoy Grammatea, ofeiloyn na proteinoyn kai dyo anqrwpoys poy toys systhnoyn. Poioi eixan thn eyqynh ths systashs toy k. Koytoyph;

PETALWTHS: Oson afora to deytero skelos toy erwthmatos sas, mpainoyme se proswpika dedomena. Den mporoyme na dhmosiopoioyme tis aithseis. Apo kei kai pera, ws pros to an oi Genikoi kai oi Eidikoi Grammateis anhkoyn kai se alla kommata peran toy PASOK, eipame oti h diadikasia einai anoixth kai yparxei synektimhsh olwn twn stoixeiwn poy sas exw anaferei polles fores.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Entajei, yparxoyn proswpika dedomena gia to biografiko toy kyrioy. Profanws omws, eiste yper ths diafaneias gia th diadikasia poy akoloyqei h kybernhsh. Yparxei mia epitroph ekei, yparxoyn anqrwpoi ypeyqynoi. Ecajan kai den brhkan ayth thn anafora sto Facebook. Ayth einai h istoria. O anqrwpos to ekane, poy qa mporoyse na mhn to kanei. Thn epomenh, loipon, hmera kapoioi eidopoihsan to Majimoy, thn epitroph, ton Papakwnstantinoy oti aytos o anqrwpos kanei ayta. Kapoioi alloi kai oxi h epitroph. Mporeite, loipon, na mas peite poios h poioi htan aytoi oi egkefaloi poy anakalycan ayto to biografiko, xwris na cajoyn otidhpote allo; Gia logoys diafaneias to rwtw kai aplhs periergeias. Na mas peite poios: O k. Panaretos, o k. Pampoykhs, o k. Paraskeyopoylos h opoiosdhpote allos brisketai sto Megaro Majimoy kai diaxeirizetai tis qeseis toy ellhnikoy Dhmosioy;

PETALWTHS: Molis dhmosiopoihqhke h drash kai h symperifora toy sygkekrimenoy anqrwpoy, anaklhqhke o orismos toy. Ayto exw na sas pw.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Me sygxwreite para poly, den ennow gia to molis. Ennow gia to prin. H epitroph ayth ti kanei; ``Xtenizei'', ws na einai fylla ta biografika asxeta; Poios den to brhke; Kapoios den to brhke.

PETALWTHS: Nomizw oti h sobarothta ths doyleias ths epitrophs kai oswn stelexwnoyn ayth th diadikasia, apodeiknyetai apo ta apotelesmata twn Grammatewn poy exoyn dhmosieyqei.

MIXAHL: To gegonos oti sto biografiko toy anefere, to paradexetai kai o idios, oti einai stelexos sygkekrimenhs etaireias, h opoia kata kairoys exei parei doyleies toy Dhmosioy, elhfqh ypoch;

PETALWTHS: To qema exei ejantlhqei. Den mporw na sas apanthsw peraiterw. Molis labame gnwsh -epanalambanw- ths symperiforas kai ths drashs, anakalesame ton orismo toy.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Na rwthsw gia thn etaireia: H etaireia sthn opoia ergazetai o kyrios aytos, exei symbash me to ellhniko Dhmosio kai malista me to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn. To eide kaneis ayto; An to eide, qelw na rwthsw: Mhpws epeleje eskemmena, gia na ginei kalytera h doyleia opws mporei na to ennohsei kanenas, ton kyrio ayto;

PETALWTHS: As meinoyme sto gegonos ths anaklhshs. Oi leptomereies den bohqoyn thn oysia. Shmasia exei h anaklhsh toy orismoy.

POLYMEROS: Yparxei mia epistolh ths ADEDY pros ton Prwqypoyrgo kai toys Ypoyrgoys Oikonomias kai Ergasias poy mila gia elleimma 700 ekatommyriwn eyrw to 2010 sto Tameio Pronoias toy Dhmosioy. Kai epishmainei malista oti 19.000 dhmosioi ypallhloi qa anagkastoyn na perimenoyn alloys 24 mhnes, giati hdh perimenoyn sxedon enan xrono, gia na eisprajoyn to efapaj. H kybernhsh exei labei ypoch ths ayth thn epistolh; Qa labei kapoia metra;

PETALWTHS: Ayth h epistolh, ap` o,ti eida, exei dhmosiopoihqei ston Typo. Den exei fqasei ston armodio Ypoyrgo. Thn katastash twn Tameiwn  kai toy sygkekrimenoy Tameioy- th gnwrizoyme. Einai poly epibarymenh. H kybernhsh exei gnwsh ths katastashs kai prospaqei na dei ti mporei na kanei se ayth thn periptwsh.

SIDERHS: Exoyn perasei 55 hmeres. Poia einai ekeina ta stoixeia, afoy exete kanei ena prwto apologismo, poy kaqistoyn qetiko to metro ayto ths proslhchs Genikwn Grammatewn me ayto ton tropo; Afoy emmenete, exei emmonh o Prwqypoyrgos sto sygkekrimeno qema. Pws qa mas peisete oti einai qetiko, giati to mono poy exei epiferei ews twra einai mia gkafa ths kybernhshs, poy eixe ta stoixeia poy proeipa peri ilarothtas. Kai to deytero, oti einai antiparagwgiko kai exei mplokarei ton kratiko mhxanismo. Ta qetika poia einai; Den exoyme dei kanena ews twra. Giati na poyme, emmenete;

PETALWTHS: Ws kybernhsh, den symfwnoyme oti exei mplokarei ton kratiko mhxanismo. Yparxoyn yphresiakoi paragontes. Yparxoyn Ypoyrgoi, oi opoioi synexizoyn kanonika to ergo. To kratos exei synexeia. Apo ekei kai pera, epilejame mia sygkekrimenh diadikasia. H epilogh poy kanoyme kai epejhgoyme ston ellhniko lao, edw kai hmeres, einai epilogh gia stelexwsh ths Dhmosias Dioikhshs me tetraeth orizonta. Kai emmenoyme se ayth th diastash.

KOYKLOYMPERHS: Sta stelexh toy PASOK, poy qa yposthrijoyn oti apokleiontai mono kai mono logw ths kommatikhs toys idiothtas, an kai exoyn ta prosonta kai epilegontai atoma me diaforetikes politikes pepoiqhseis, ti qa peite;

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei kanenas apokleismos twn kommatikwn stelexwn toy PASOK. Den yparxei poinikopoihsh ths idiothtas toy meloys toy PASOK. Emeis qesame sygkekrimenes diadikasies, me tis opoies proxwrame.

SEGKOS: Na allajw ligo qema, an moy epitrepete. Xqes, o k. Papakwnstantinoy desmeyqhke stis Bryjelles gia prosqeta metra mesa sto 2010, opws apokalyce o Proedros toy Eurogroup;

PETALWTHS: O k. Papakwnstantinoy, kanontas mia titania prospaqeia gia na peisoyme toys etairoys mas oti epiteloys yparxei prooptikh ajiopistias ths xwras, paroysiase to sxedio Proypologismoy, to opoio egine dekto apo ta eyrwpaika organa. Apo ekei kai pera, opws eipa sthn eisagwgh moy, epetai to programma staqerothtas ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, poy qa katateqei stis arxes toy epomenoy xronoy. Kai fysika, qa arxisei kai h diaboyleysh gia ena neo forologiko nomosxedio, poy akribws qa apotypwnei ayth thn ajiopistia kai se forologiko epipedo. Aytes einai oi desmeyseis mas. Kai h kyria desmeysh mas einai na diafylaxqei to dhmosio symferon kai to symferon toy Ellhna polith, poy exei amesh sxesh kai me thn ajiopistia ths xwras mas.

SEGKOS: Ara, den to apekleise na erqoyn kai prosqeta metra.

PETALWTHS: Metra erxontai, otan qa prepei na tonwqei h ajiopistia kai h eyhmeria ths xwras mas.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Yparxoyn desmeyseis gia meiwsh twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn h meiwsh twn misqwn sto Dhmosio;

PETALWTHS: To qema exei syzhthqei. Nomizw oti den yparxei logos na syzhthqei shmera.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Den katalaba thn apanthsh sas k. Ekproswpe. Mporeite na epanalabete ti akribws;

PETALWTHS: Sas eipa oti to qema twn proslhcewn sto ellhniko Dhmosio kai to qema twn misqwn exoyn syzhthqei pro polloy. Kai malista, na sas qymisw oti o Proypologismos -ayto eixa pei kai se ayth thn aiqoysa, to eixame pei kai sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai o k. Papakwnstantinoy- einai ena nomoqethma poy apotypwnei kapoia stoixeia. Apo ekei kai pera, h ejeidikeysh erxetai, bebaia, kai me alloys nomoys.

MIXAHL: Qelw na sas rwthsw to ejhs, k. Ekproswpe: Blepoyme, opws anaferate kai eseis sthn arxikh sas dhlwsh, oti yphrje mia syntonismenh prospaqeia apo thn kybernhsh kai oi arnhtikes entypwseis poy dhmioyrghqhkan thn perasmenh ebdomada, allajan to klima. Den xrewkopei h Ellada, dhlwse kai o k. Trise kai o k. Gioygker kai ola ayta. Giati eprepe na ginoyn ola ayta gia na fqasoyme stis syntonismenes prospaqeies ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs; Mhpws, dhladh, hqela na pw, den ektimhqhke swsta h sygkyria kai oti apo thn arxh qa eprepe na ginei mia seira tetoiwn kinhsewn h na akoloyqhsei, telos pantwn, to sxedio sas grhgora, wste na mh dhmioyrghqei ayth h antifatikothta, apo th mia na exoyme thn kataptwsh twn agorwn kai apo thn allh na anebainoyn pali oi agores me dhlwseis sthrijhs;

PETALWTHS: Na sas ypenqymisw oti h ajiologhsh ths Elladas se ayth th xronikh stigmh ginetai gia to prohgoymeno ejamhno. Kai ayth einai apokleistikh eyqynh ths Neas Dhmokratias. Emeis, prospaqoyme na anatajoyme ayto to klima. Prospaqoyme na anatajoyme thn ellhnikh oikonomia. Na antistrecoyme to asxhmo kai arnhtiko klima poy yparxei gia th xwra mas, me sxedio kai apofasistikothta poy, opws apodeixqhke, pragmatika epiase topo.

BASILOPOYLOS: Se ayth thn prospaqeia poy lete, ti rolo epaije to ranteboy toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Papadhmo; Kai an exei jekinhsei mia poreia toy k. Papadhmoy apo th Frankfoyrth sthn Aqhna, prokeimenoy na analabei ena pio shmantiko rolo sto eswteriko ths xwras gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia.

PETALWTHS: Oi syzhthseis ginontai me opoion mporei na symballei sthn enisxysh toy kaloy klimatos ths ellhnikhs oikonomias kai bebaia, se opoion mporei na syzhthsei gia sobara oikonomika zhthmata.

GARGALAKOS: Apo to bhma ths Boylhs o k. Karatzaferhs ekane mia protash pros th Nea Dhmokratia, bebaia, alla afora kai thn kybernhsh, na odhghqei h xwra se ekloges me aformh thn eklogh Proedroy Dhmokratias. Eseis, pws sxoliazete mia tetoia energeia;

PETALWTHS: Penhnta pente hmeres meta tis ekloges, to na syzhtame jana gia ekloges kai malista me ena tetoio apotelesma, nomizw oti einai toylaxiston aneyqyno.

TOYMASHS: Se allo qema. O k. Koymoytsakos anaferqhke, xqes, se mia prospaqeia gia diolisqhsh pros th dimeropoihsh toy problhmatos toy onomatos. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, ean yparxei dosh alhqeias sthn prooptikh dimeropoihshs toy onomatos gia dieykolynsh toy odikoy xarth, pros thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, twn Skopiwn kai oxi mesa sta plaisia toy OHE, enw ta ypoloipa, opws oi perioysies, ta diabathria, h glwssa, qa meinoyn sta plaisia toy OHE gia th dieykolynsh kai thn proodo ths poreias twn Skopiwn pros thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

PETALWTHS: Qa epanalabw, gia allh mia fora: H monh meqodos diapragmateyshs me ta Skopia einai o Organismos Hnwmenwn Eqnwn. Den yfistatai kamia diolisqhsh.

PAPPA: Ep` aytoy: O anaplhrwths Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Droytsas, xqes, se mia enhmerwsh poy mas ekane, ejefrase thn proqesh toy na episkefqei ta Skopia mesa sto mhna. Qa hqela na rwthsw, to tajidi ayto exei na kanei me th beltiwsh twn sxesewn genikws h qa yparxei atzenta, h opoia profanws qa afora to epimaxo qema;

PETALWTHS: Ena tajidi, to opoio mporei na ginei sta Skopia, den exei kamia sxesh me th diapragmateytikh diadikasia, mesw toy OHE, gia to onoma. Ean yparjei tetoio tajidi, ean programmatistei, qa anakoinwqei, kaqws kai h atzenta.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Sth xqesinh synanthsh, syzhthqhke to qema ths onomasias;

PETALWTHS: Sas eipa oti to zhthma ths onomasias syzhteitai me th diapragmateytikh diadikasia mesw toy OHE. Ola ta alla zhthmata syzhtoyntai teleiws perifereiaka.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Akoysame, xqes, toys ajiwmatoyxoys twn Skopiwn na lene oti h kybernhsh einai adiallakth kai den ypoxwrei sta qemata, oyte ths onomasias, oyte sta ypoloipa. Hqela na sas rwthsw, aytes oi epafes me toys Skopianoys, gia poio logo ginontai;

PETALWTHS: Opws gnwrizete, h diaskech toy OASE ginetai sth xwra mas. Symmetexoyn polles xwres kai ginontai polles dimereis epafes.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Hqela na sas rwthsw, o k. Papandreoy kai o k. Droytsas, mesa se elaxisto xroniko diasthma, eidan treis-tesseris fores toys Skopianoys ajiwmatoyxoys, th Skopianh hgesia. Efoson den syzhtoyn epi ths oysias, giati ginontai oi epafes;

PETALWTHS: To na yparxei mia kinhtikothta kai mia epiqetikh kai dynamikh diplwmatia, pisteyoyme oti einai pros ofelos ths xwras mas.

KOYKLOYMPERHS: Qewreite oti h omilia toy k. Samara, xqes, sto Ellhnoamerikaniko Epimelhthrio, bohqa thn kybernhsh sthn prospaqeia ths gia thn anakamch ths oikonomias;

PETALWTHS: H kybernhsh kanei mia poly megalh prospaqeia, mia titania prospaqeia, gia thn anatajh ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Kai gi` ayton akribws to logo, exei proskalesei foreis, polites kai kyriws kommata na symballoyn me th symmetoxh toys se ayth thn poly megalh prospaqeia poy ginetai.

MPEQANH: Hqela na epanelqw ligo sto prohgoymeno qema, gia to qema ths anaklhshs. O Prwqypoyrgos eixe desmeyqei kai gi` ayto to logo phre kai thn entolh toy ellhnikoy laoy, gia diafaneia kai ajiokratia. Thrhqhke, loipon, ayth h desmeysh kai me thn anoixth diadikasia. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, eixate desmeyqei omws oti ta proswpa ta opoia qa epilegoyn qa efarmosoyn to sygkekrimeno politiko kai ideologiko programma toy PASOK. Isxyei ayth h desmeysh poy edwse proeklogika to PASOK; Kai an nai, yparxoyn kapoies epishmanseis, kapoia kateyqynsh thn opoia edwse o Prwqypoyrgos, ystera apo ayto to sfalma, to opoio diapistwqhke me th sygkekrimenh topoqethsh;

PETALWTHS: Emmenoyme se ayta poy eixame pei prin tis ekloges. Opoy yparxei diapistwsh oti yparxei kati diaforetiko, oti yparxei parekklish, oti draseis kai symperifores den synadoyn me aytes tis arxes poy exoyme qesei, anakaloyntai oi orismoi.

SIDERHS: Opote, na ypoqesoyme oti o k. Pentazos diepetai apo tis arxes poy exete qesei.

PETALWTHS: Apanthsa, prohgoymenws, gia ton k. Pentazo.

SIDERHS: Endexomenws na paleyei kai gia to sosialismo.

MAKRYGIANNHS: H kybernhsh, na ypoqesw loipon oti qa synexisei na anakoinwnei Genikoys kai Eidikoys Grammateis, me ayth th diadikasia. Dhladh, qa ejakoloyqhsei na exei agnoia kindynoy.

PETALWTHS: Ayth einai dikh sas krish. Den th symmerizomaste. Pisteyoyme akribws to antiqeto kai to antiqeto efarmozoyme.

Sas eyxaristw.

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