Greek Government Press Briefing, 09-07-08

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 8 Ioylioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 212195181

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 8 Ioylioy 2009

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Oloklhrwqhke, prin apo ligo, sto Megaro Majimoy, h synedriash toy KYSEA, ypo thn Proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh. Gia ta qemata ta opoia syzhthqhkan enhmerwqhkate apo to Ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynas k. Baggelh Meimarakh kai ton Ypoyrgo Eswterikwn k. Prokoph Paylopoylo.

Synoptika, syzhthqhkan, afenos h nea domh toy NATO, opws ayth ejelissetai meta tis teleytaies apofaseis kai afeteroy h symmetoxh mas sthn dieqnh eirhneytikh apostolh sth Somalia gia thn katapolemhsh ths dieqnoys peirateias. Qymaste oti h Ellada htan h prwth xwra poy eixe thn prwth dioikhsh ths Moiras twn polemikwn ploiwn poy einai paroysa sthn perioxh.

Epishs, syzhthqhke kai to qema ths laqrometanasteyshs poy, opws oloi gnwrizoyn, apotelei ena shmantiko zhthma gia th xwra mas logw ths gewgrafikhs qeshs thn opoia exei, ths megalhs grammhs twn synorwn - -toso twn qalassiwn oso kai twn xersaiwn- - kai toy megaloy ariqmoy twn laqraiwn, mh nomimwn metanastwn, poy ayjhqhke poly ta dyo teleytaia xronia kai oi opoioi prospaqoyn na eiselqoyn ston eqniko mas xwro.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

MPALHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, plhrofories apo thn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh lene pws to PASOK einai etoimo na kataqesei mia protash nomoy sth Boylh gia eynoikoterh ryqmish se osoys dinoyn stoixeia poy aforoyn ypoqeseis diafqoras poy emplekontai politikoi, synergates toys k.t.l. Kai shmera, o k. Mixaloliakos to prwi, se radiofwniko staqmo - -den qymamai se poion, nomizw ston 9,89, ston Alpha- - eipe pali gia eynoikoterh metaxeirish, fwtografizontas kai pali ton k. Xristoforako. Se ayth thn periptwsh h kybernhsh ti qa kanei; Exete kapoio sxolio; Dhmioyrgeitai kapoio klima wste na odhghqoyme se mia tetoia katastash;

ANTWNAROS: Oson afora ayto to qema, exw kanei - -edw kai merikes hmeres- - safh th qesh ths kybernhshs. H ellhnikh kybernhsh sthrizei thn organwmenh prospaqeia ths ellhnikhs Dikaiosynhs wste na xyqei apleto fws, na dialeykanqei mexri teloys kaqe ypoqesh kai fysika kai ayth h ypoqesh poy anaferate. Gnwrizete oti ws kybernhsh, ws Politeia, sthrizoyme synexws thn ellhnikh Dikaiosynh prokeimenoy na odhghqoyme se ayto to stoxo. Pera apo ayto, einai se oloys gnwsto oti exoyme thn apoch pws kaqe idea poy enisxyei th diafaneia kai qwrakizei to politiko mas systhma, einai xrhsimo na ejetazetai, na syzhteitai sthn Epitroph Qesmwn kai Diafaneias. H Epitroph ayth pisteyoyme oti einai to katallhlo bhma gia na ginoyn, opote prokyptei, tetoies syzhthseis. Kai ayto egine, allwste, sthn prajh me dikh mas prwtoboylia, toso gia qemata poy exoyn sxesh me th legomenh ``eyqynh ypoyrgwn'', oso kai gia qemata leitoyrgias twn MME.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, yparxei gia thn kybernhsh qema me ton Yfypoyrgo Ygeias k. Salma;

ANTWNAROS: Den antilambanomai se ti anafereste, dioti fhmologies kai asthriktoi isxyrismoi den mporei na synistoyn momfh gia kapoio politiko proswpo.

KAKALHS: Nai, alla exei paraithqei h dieyqyntria toy grafeioy toy.

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw tis leptomereies. Alla, ej oswn antilambanomai, ayto den exei sxesh me ton idio ton Ypoyrgo.

KALARYTHS: Ep` aytoy. Epeidh yparxoyn oi fhmologies kai oi isxyrismoi, o k. Salmas epikoinwnhse me kapoion apo thn kybernhsh, prokeimenoy na dwsei kapoies ejhghseis h toy zhthqhkan ejhghseis h dieykriniseis;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Salmas epikoinwnhse mazi moy kai moy eipe oti ola ayta ta opoia me th morfh ciqyrwn, qa elega, kykloforoyn gia to proswpo toy, den exoyn sxesh me thn pragmatikothta.

KAKALHS: Hqela na rwthsw, an h kybernhsh exei zhthsei th bohqeia toy NATO gia thn antimetwpish toy problhmatos twn metanastwn, opws exei pei se synenteyjh toy se efhmerida o k. Paylopoylos;

ANTWNAROS: Den egine, shmera, kamia syzhthsh gi` ayto to qema kai den gnwrizw kati tetoio.

KAKALHS: Epishs, qelw na rwthsw, an moy epitrepete, ena synafes. An h xrhsh twn stratiwtikwn kai astynomikwn meswn kata twn metanastwn dikaiologeitai apo thn antilhch poy exei h kybernhsh, opws exei ekfrasei o k. Meimarakhs, oti h metanasteysh, h laqrometanasteysh opws thn apokaleite eseis, apotelei en dynamei apeilh gia th xwra.

ANTWNAROS: Kat` arxas, den xrhsimopoioyntai stratiwtika mesa, opws anaferate, kata twn metanastwn oi opoioi prospaqoyn me mh nomimo tropo na eiselqoyn sth xwra. Xrhsimopoioyntai apo tis diwktikes Arxes ths xwras ekeines oi nomimes meqodoi poy einai aparaithtes, prokeimenoy osoi men exoyn dikaiwma h apoktoyn dikaiwma na parameinoyn sth xwra, na meinoyn. Oi alloi de na epistrecoyn ws oikonomikoi metanastes, poy den exoyn dikaiwma na meinoyn sth xwra mas, na epistrecoyn pisw stis xwres proeleyshs toys. Ginontai apolytws sebasta - -kai ayto einai gnwsto- - ola ta anqrwpina dikaiwmata. Kai frontizoyme wste ekeinoi oi opoioi foboyntai, opws eipa kai prohgoymenws gia politikoys, qrhskeytikoys h alloys logoys, na gyrisoyn stis xwres proeleyshs toys me thn efarmogh twn sxetikwn diadikasiwn na parameinoyn edw h na phgainoyn se alles xwres ths Eyrwphs. Ayth einai mia diadikasia h opoia ligo-poly efarmozetai se oles tis eyrwpaikes xwres.

MPALHS: H kybernhsh symmerizetai thn aisiodojia poy exei o k. Nimits oti qa ``jepagwsei'' to qema ths diapragmateyshs me ta Skopia; Kai an mporeite na epibebaiwsete eseis plhrofories oti o k. Nimits epixeirei me kapoio tropo na sthsei mia parallhlh diapragmateysh gia qemata poy einai ektos onomatos, dhladh gia taytothta, gia glwssa, gia kapoia alla qemata;

ANTWNAROS: Einai gnwsto poio einai to antikeimeno ths diapragmateyshs poy lambanei xwra, poy ejelissetai edw kai polla xronia ypo thn aigida toy Organismoy Hnwmenwn Eqnwn: Einai h prospaqeia gia thn ejeyresh mias koina apodekths onomasias. Ayto einai to antikeimeno. Kai sto antikeimeno ayths ths diadikasias emeis menoyme proshlwmenoi.

Emeis, apo th dikh mas pleyra, ws ellhnikh Politeia, ws Ellada, exoyme kanei epoikodomhtikes kinhseis kai apomenei twra, opws exoyme pei epaneilhmmenws, sthn allh pleyra, th geitona xwra, na antapokriqei kai na diadramatisei kai to diko ths rolo se ayth th diapragmateysh, poy einai diapragmateysh twn dyo xwrwn mesw toy Organismoy Hnwmenwn Eqnwn.

KAKALHS: Eipate oti den xrhsimopoioyntai stratiwtika mesa kata twn metanastwn. Alla, tote pws ejhgeitai h emplokh toy KYSEA kai o syntonismos olwn twn energeiwn katw apo thn omprela toy KYSEA;

ANTWNAROS: Otan exeis megales omades anqrwpwn poy proerxontai apo alles xwres kai malista me proeleysh mia geitonikh xwra, einai fysiko ayth h ejelijh na syzhteitai sto anwtato kybernhtiko organo, poy exei thn eyqynh ths xarajhs ths ejwterikhs politikhs kai ths politikhs asfaleias ths xwras. Sas to exoyme janapei ayto. Den mporw na katalabw giati prokalei entypwsh. Den syzhteitai h xrhsh stratiwtikwn meswn, en prokeimenw, gia thn apotroph. Ta mesa ta opoia xrhsimopoioyntai einai h efarmogh twn nomwn ths xwras mas, oi opoioi - - opws sas eipa - - se polles periptwseis einai taytoshmoi me oti isxyei kai stis alles eyrwpaikes xwres.

Eimaste meros toy eyrwpaikoy oloy, to opoio antimetwpizei synolika ayto to qema. Gnwrizete oti poly prosfata, sth Synodo Koryfhs twn Bryjellwn, eginan dektes dikes mas qeseis, sxetika me thn apo koinoy antimetwpish ths laqrometanasteyshs. Qeseis oi opoies ekfrasthkan apo thn Ellada, thn Italia, thn Kypro kai thn Malta. Qeseis poy symperilhfqhkan sta epejergasmena telika symperasmata.

Ayta ola einai apotelesma mias synolikhs politikhs. Allwste, opws eipe kai shmera o k. Paylopoylos, se liges hmeres qa breqei sth Stokxolmh, afoy h Soyhdia exei thn Proedria ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs gia to trexon ejamhno, kai qa syzhthsei kai ekei sth Synodo twn Ypoyrgwn Eswterikwn ayto to qema.

Yparxei eyaisqhtopoihsh ths Eyrwphs, kyriws xarh stis dikes mas prospaqeies, alla kai allwn xwrwn gia ayto to qema.

KALARYTHS: O k. Salmas mhpws dieykrinise h rwthqhke poia einai h sxesh toy me ton k. Troympoykh; Filikh h kapoia allh;

ANTWNAROS: Den mpainw se tetoies leptomereies. Den gnwrizw tetoies leptomereies. Nomizw oti tetoia qemata den einai pros syzhthsh se ayth thn aiqoysa. Sas eipa oti exw apo ton k. Salma sygkekrimenh diabebaiwsh.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw na sas rwthsw sxetika me ena dhmosieyma poy eixe h efhmerida FREE SUNDAY, thn perasmenh Kyriakh poy mas perase. H korh ths Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn k. Alejia Mpakogiannh, poy exei etairia dhmosiwn sxesewn, eixe to geniko prostagma epi ths diadikasias, opws diamonh kai metakinhsh antiproswpeiwn, diorganwsh twn ekdhlwsewn kok kata thn atyph Ypoyrgikh Synodo toy OASE sthn opoia symmeteixe kai o Prwqypoyrgos. Ta erwthmata poy anakyptoyn einai ean h kybernhsh gnwrizei th morfh synergasias, ton tropo anakthshs kai to kostos kai an den ta gnwrizei, ean protiqetai na ta plhroforhqei apo to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw kaqoloy. Qa sas synistoysa na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn kai eimai bebaios oti qa exete oles tis plhrofories.

Omws, apo thn enhmerwsh poy exw kai apo dhmosieymata toy Typoy, ta opoia kai eseis asfalws gnwrizete, exw thn entypwsh oti to synoliko kostos ayths ths poly megalhs diorganwshs, (sthn opoia paresthsan ajiwmatoyxoi apo oles tis xwres toy OASE, kai sto periqwrio ths opoias egine allh mia synanthsh toy NATO me th Rwsia) einai poly xamhlotero apo antistoixwn synanthsewn h diorganwsewn poy ginontai sto ejwteriko.

Mhn prospaqoyme panta na ypobaqmisoyme thn oysiastikh shmasia poy exei mia tetoia diorganwsh gia th xwra mas, menontas se orismena - - qa moy epitrecete na pw xwris ayto na exei kamia momfh gia to proswpo sas h thn efhmerida poy anaferete - - perifereiaka kai deytereyonta stoixeia. Shmasia exei ti egine pragmatika sth Kerkyra. Qa moy epitrecete na pw oti einai mia diplh epityxia ths ellhnikhs diplwmatias - - anaferqhka sto qema NATO  Rwsias, sto qema toy OASE - - kai ayto einai poy prepei na krathsoyme.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: An moy epitrepete, nomizw, oti kai apo thn erwthsh fanhke oti to kostos einai to deytereyon zhthma. Allo htan ayto to opoio eqesan...

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw leptomereies gia toys diorganwtes. Gnwrizete oti den einai antikeimeno ths enhmerwshs toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy na asxoleitai me to poios diorganwse th mia h thn allh ptyxh mias dieqnoys syndiaskechs.

Sas eyxaristw.

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