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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 15 Ioynioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 208059747

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 15 Ioynioy 2009

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

" Ayrio, Trith 16 Ioynioy, stis 12.00, qa synedriasei to KYSEA, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh, sto Megaro Majimoy, me qemata armodiothtas toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas.

" Shmera to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos eixe thlefwnikh synomilia, diarkeias peripoy 15 leptwn, me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Tsexias k. Gian Fiser. H synomilia egine katopin prwtoboylias toy k. Fiser, o opoios anelabe prosfata ta kaqhkonta toy, ws o neos Prwqypoyrgos ths Tsexias. Opws gnwrizete, h Tsexia einai h xwra, h opoia mexri to telos toy trexontos mhnos Ioynioy, exei thn Proedria ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.

H synomilia kalyce polla qemata amoibaioy endiaferontos, enocei toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, to opoio synerxetai sto telos ths ebdomadas stis Bryjelles. O Prwqypoyrgos ths Tsexias kanei mia seira thlefwnhmatwn me toys Prwqypoyrgoys twn allwn xwrwn. O Prwqypoyrgos eixe thn eykairia na qesei qemata idiaiteroy endiaferontos gia thn ellhnikh pleyra.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, enocei twn egkainiwn toy Moyseioy ths Akropolhs, exei labei oristikh apanthsh h kybernhsh apo thn pleyra toy Toyrkoy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Erntogan, an qa parastei;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati sygkekrimeno ayth th stigmh, sxetika me ta onomata twn proswpikothtwn ta opoia qa parastoyn sta egkainia toy Moyseioy ths Akropolhs. Molis exw kati, qa sas enhmerwsw.

TSIKRIKA: Ston kyriakatiko Typo, kyrie Ekproswpe, diabasame kapoia dhmosieymata, opoy o k. Roysopoylos, se eisagwgika, eipe, oysiastika afhnei aixmes gia thn k. Mpakogiannh kai ton k. Meimarakh, enw yphrjan xqes kai anafores ston Prwqypoyrgo gia mia mystikh synanthsh sth Rafhna. Poio einai to sxolio sas; Bghkan ta maxairia; Pws krinete thn politikh toy symperifora, meta thn anakoinwsh oti den qa einai ek neoy ypochfios;

ANTWNAROS: H apofash toy, opws gnwrizete, einai sebasth. Kaqe apofash einai sebasth. Peran aytwn, den exw na pw kati, dedomenoy oti den gnwrizw, syn tois allois, dhlwseis - -epishmes- - stis opoies anafereste. Oytws h allws, omws, pagiws, opws gnwrizete, den sxoliazw dhlwseis boyleytwn.

FOYRLHS: Qa meletoyse h kybernhsh to endexomeno na synergastei se epipedo kommatwn h na sxhmatisei ena neo kommatiko forea, eyrytero, sto xwro apo to kentro mexri th dejia, oytws wste na dieyrynei thn aphxhsh ths kai to akroathrio ths kai thn eklogikh ths bash, enocei mias dyskolhs eklogikhs anametrhshs, opotedhpote ayth pragmatopoihqei;

ANTWNAROS: Giati kanete ayth thn erwthsh; Den antilambanomai poio einai to skeptiko ths. H Nea Dhmokratia, opws gnwrizete - -egw den eimai ekproswpos ths Neas Dhmokratias, alla bebaiws, energopoioymai politika gia th Nea Dhmokratia ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos- - einai ena komma to opoio yparxei apo to 1974. Kai politeyetai, yperaspizomenh ta symferonta olwn twn Ellhnwn politwn, me idiaiterh epityxia.

ARMENHS: Ara, ekane laqos o k. Manwlhs poy ekane sxetikh dhlwsh se kyriakatikh efhmerida;

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete - -to eipa molis prohgoymenws- - den sxoliazw proswpikes topoqethseis boyleytwn.

TSIKRIKA: Ayth thn ebdomada qa erqei sth Boylh telika, kyrie Ekproswpe, o nomos peri Eyqynhs Ypoyrgwn; Qa allajei amesa;

ANTWNAROS: Einai gnwsth h desmeysh thn opoia exei analabei o Prwqypoyrgos, na kanei oles ekeines tis energeies, toso pros ton Proedro ths Boylhs, oso kai pros ton Ypoyrgo Eswterikwn k. Prokoph Paylopoylo kai pros ton Ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs k. Dendia, prokeimenoy na melethqoyn oles oi dynatothtes oi opoies yparxoyn pros ayth thn kateyqynsh, thn opoia perigracate. Einai gnwstes, bebaiws, oi pronoies toy Syntagmatos. Opws einai epishs gnwsto - -kai to exoyme pei- - oti qa laboyme ypoch mas oles tis protaseis oi opoies exoyn katateqei kata kairoys. Ayto einai kati to opoio exei pei o Prwqypoyrgos dyo h treis fores, poly prosfata. Kai isxyei, bebaiws, sto akeraio. Isws kai entos ths hmeras enhmerwqeite gia leptomereies ths prwtoboylias.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, molis prosfata, prin apo liges hmeres, o Prwqypoyrgos anaferomenos sto endexomeno synergasiwn h sthn parafilologia peri synergasiwn, to apekleise, legontas oti den einai nohtes tetoies synergasies. O k. Manwlhs jekinhse th mia fora, yphrje h prwth apanthsh, parapemcate ston Prwqypoyrgo, omws synexizei. Den yparxei to endexomeno na labete metra gia enan boyleyth o opoios erxetai se katafwrh antiqesh me ta osa leei o Prwqypoyrgos;

ANTWNAROS: H qesh mas einai jekaqarh. Thn exei, bebaiws, paroysiasei toso o Prwqypoyrgos, oso kai egw, apo ayto edw to bhma, sta plaisia twn armodiothtwn poy moy exoyn anateqei. Sas eipa: Sxolia gia proswpikes dhlwseis boyleytwn, den kanw.

TROYPIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, na epistrecw sth synomilia me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Tsexias. Exete na mas peite kati; Yphrje kapoia apanthsh h kapoia kateyqynsh se sxesh me to qema twn laqrometanastwn, qema poy eqese o Prwqypoyrgos me epistolh;

ANTWNAROS: Opws swsta eipate, o Prwqypoyrgos molis stis arxes ths perasmenhs ebdomadas ws apokoryfwma twn energeiwn poy exei kanei kai twn prwtoboyliwn poy exei analabei h ellhnikh kybernhsh ola ta teleytaia xronia pros thn kateyqynsh mias koinhs eyrwpaikhs antimetwpishs toy qematos twn laqrometanastwn, ths paranomhs metanasteyshs, apesteile mia epistolh ston proedreyonta, neo Prwqypoyrgo ths Tsexias.

H Ellada, opws sas einai gnwsto, epemeine wste na symperilhfqei ena kefalaio gia th laqrometanasteysh sto prosexes Eyrwpaiko Symboylio, poy qa ginei tis epomenes meres stis Bryjelles. Pragma, poy oristikopoihqhke malista, kai me thn epistolh ayth thn opoia apesteile o Prwqypoyrgos pros ton proedreyonta toy Symboylioy kai ton Proedro ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs. To qema tiqetai pleon me ayto ton tropo epishmws sto anwtato eyrwpaiko epipedo. Proqesh toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Karamanlh einai na tonisei oti h Ellada antimetwpizei kati poy sas exoyme pei kai alles fores: Ojytates metanasteytikes pieseis, dysanaloges pros to megeqos ths xwras kai tis dynatothtes poy exei h xwra na aporrofhsei aytoys toys poly megaloys, synexws ayjanomenoys ariqmoys paranomwn, ws epi to pleiston, oikonomikwn metanastwn. Gnwrizete oti ayto ofeiletai se diaforoys paragontes. Metajy twn allwn, sth gewgrafikh qesh ths xwras mas, poy exei se sxesh me ta ejwterika synora ths Eyrwpaikhs 'Enwshs, thn ektetamenh qalassia kai xersaia oriogrammh kai thn eggythta poy exei h xwra mas me diafores xwres katagwghs kai dieleyshs paranomwn metanastwn.

Pisteyoyme, synepws, oti gia oloys aytoys toys logoys kai logw toy synexws ayjanomenoy ariqmoy twn metanastwn - -sas eipa oti mesa sta teleytaia tria xronia exei ypertriplasiastei o ariqmos twn paranomwn metanastwn poy ftanoyn sth xwra mas- - prepei na lhfqoyn sygkekrimena metra xwris kamia kaqysterhsh. Ta metra ayta anaferontai diejodika sthn epistolh thn opoia apesteile o k. Karamanlhs ston Prwqypoyrgo ths Tsexias k. Gian Fiser.

Einai epishs gnwsto oti, synexws, apo ton Ioynio toy 2004 me polles parembaseis, toso se epipedo toy Prwqypoyrgoy Kwsta Karamanlh, oso kai se epipedo twn Ypoyrgeiwn Ejwterikwn kai Eswterikwn exoyn ginei oles oi aparaithtes energeies wste na aposafhnisqei plhrws poia einai h oysia toy problhmatos ths paranomhs metanasteyshs poy antimetwpizei h xwra mas. Eipa kai thn perasmenh bdomada oti den einai panta eykolo, se xwres oi opoies einai poly makria apo mas kai exoyn na dexqoyn shmantika mikrotero ariqmo paranomwn oikonomikwn metanastwn ap' o,ti emeis, na ejhghsei kapoios thn idiaiterothta toy problhmatos. Eimai bebaios omws oti, opws fainetai, toys teleytaioys mhnes to problhma ayto akribws logw toy megeqoys kai toy oloena ayjanomenoy ogkoy poy pairnei, ginetai antilhpto.

Kai gi' ayto akribws exoyme kai megalyterh antapokrish sta aithmata ta opoia emeis qetoyme synexws: Toso oson afora th FRONTEX (kai tis epixeirhseis tis opoies diorganwnei ston ellhniko xwro) oson afora thn koinh eyrwpaikh aktofylakh, alla kai telos oson afora thn anagkh poy yparxei na enisxysoyn oikonomika oi xwres ths Eyrwphs kai sto kentro ths Eyrwphs kai sto Borra, tis xwres ths Notias Eyrwphs. Oles aytes oi prospaqeies fernoyn apotelesmata.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe me aformh thn apofash toy k. Roysopoyloy na mhn symmetexei sta chfodeltia toy kommatos stis prosexeis ekloges, qa prepei to paradeigma toy na to akoloyqhsoyn kai alloi boyleytes h prwhn ypoyrgoi poy eneplakhsan se skandala;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati panw s'ayto to qema. 'Exoyme topoqethqei epaneilhmmenws.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, alla omws to teleytaio diasthma akoygontai polles fwnes kai apo ton k. Manwlh kai apo ton k. Kokkinoylh shmera o opoios epanerxetai kai poy zhta oti qa prepei na apomakrynqoyn osoi eneplakhsan se skandala kai anaferetai xarakthristika ston k. Boylgarakh kai ston k. Doyka.

ANTWNAROS: Epimenete na sxoliasw dhlwseis h feromenes dhlwseis boyleytwn. Den to ekana dyo h treis fores shmera mexri twra kai den qa to kanw oyte aythn edw.

PALAIOLOGOS: H qesh toy Majimoy poia einai; Dhladh an prepei na to akoloyqhsoyn to paradeigma.

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka.

TROYPIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, exete na mas peite kati perissotero gia ta qemata toy ayrianoy KYSEA kai an sta qemata ayta einai kai to qema ths laqrometanasteyshs, opoy o stratos empleketai etsi ki alliws;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ayth thn entypwsh. Qa sas parakalesw na perimenete th synolikh enhmerwsh meta th synedriash toy KYSEA apo ton armodio ypoyrgo, ton k. Meimarakh.

FOYRLHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, prin kala-kala anakoinwqei oysiastika h skech ths kybernhshs gia th dhmioyrgia xwrwn ypodoxhs se diaforetika gewgrafika diamerismata - -kai jerw oti den einai oristikes oi skeceis, jerw oti einai akoma se zymwsh, se diergasia sthn kybernhsh- - yphrjan dyo eidwn kritikes. Prwton, oti aytes oi logikes parapempoyn sto parelqon kai se poly dysarestes mnhmes, se sxesh me stratopeda sygkentrwshs. Kai deyteron, oti polles topikes koinwnies den qeloyn oyte na to akoysoyn. Dhmarxoi, dhladh qesmikoi paragontes ths Topikhs Aytodioikhshs. H kybernhsh qa parei kapoia prwtoboylia na to syzhthsei perissotero; Qa to anakoinwsei; Adiaforei; Dhladh, pws antiparerxetai ayth thn kritikh;

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, qa pw to ejhs: Einai laqemenes kai polles ekfraseis oi opoies xrhsimopoioyntai kai den antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta kai oi syzhthseis poy ginontai pros mia esfalmenh kateyqynsh.

Den yparxei kamia apolytws amfibolia oti h xwra antimetwpizei, ta teleytaia dyo-dyomish xronia, ena synexws ogkoymeno kyma paranomwn sth syntriptikh toys pleiochfia - -to ypogrammizw ayto gia mia akomh fora- - oikonomikwn metanastwn. Dhladh, anqrwpwn poy epixeiroyn na erqoyn apo tis xwres katagwghs toys pros thn Eyrwph, me prwth xwra eisodoy th xwra mas, prokeimenoy na broyn mia kalyterh moira. Ayto einai apolytws katanohto, alla dhmioyrgei se aytoys toys megaloys ariqmoys kai toys ogkoys, terastia problhmata sth xwra mas, etsi wste na exoyn fqasei sta akra oi antoxes toso ths oikonomias, oso kai ths koinwnias mas.

Einai fysiko, loipon, kai sthn Ellada, opws exei ginei se alles xwres ths Notias Eyrwphs - -anaferomai sthn Italia- - na dhmioyrgoyntai kentra organwmenhs ypodoxhs twn paranomwn metanastwn, oi opoioi eite syllambanontai kata thn prospaqeia paranomhs eisodoy sth xwra, eite syllambanontai afoy exoyn mpei sth xwra kai diapistwnetai oti den diaqetoyn ta nomima aparaithta tajidiwtika eggrafa.

Qa qymaste, asfalws, oti prin apo dyo-dyomish xronia ginotan megalh kritikh sth xwra mas apo foreis toy ejwterikoy, giati akribws dieqete poly periorismeno, sxedon mhdeniko, ariqmo tetoiwn kentrwn ypodoxhs. Kai sas eipa proxqes oti sto parelqon den eixe ginei kamia prospaqeia apo tis prohgoymenes kybernhseis na organwqei h ypodoxh twn jenwn yphkown, oi opoioi prospaqoyn paranoma na eiselqoyn na zhsoyn sth xwra mas.

Qymaste, asfalws, oti h xwra mas dexotan entonh kritikh eidika gia ton tropo me ton opoio ferontan - -den htan alhqeia- - na antimetwpizoyn oi ellhnikes Arxes osoys prospaqoysan, kyriws apo th qalassa (dhladh apo ta anatolika) na mpoyn sthn Ellada. Kai qymaste poso dieykolyne thn katastash h kataskeyh toy kentroy ypodoxhs sth Samo. Analogo kentro yparxei sth Boreia Ellada. Analogo kentro, opws jerete, dhmioyrgeitai konta sthn Patra, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistei to megalo problhma poy antimetwpize h shmantikh ayth polh ths Elladas, me toys paranomoys metanastes, oi opoioi eixan sygkentrwqei kyriws sthn perioxh toy limanioy ths polhs. Einai, loipon, aparaithto na ginetai - -opws ginetai se oles tis eyrwpaikes xwres poy antimetwpizoyn antistoixa problhmata- - enas tropos systhmatopoihmenhs ypodoxhs twn paranomwn metanastwn. Tipote apo ayta poy organwnontai me plhrh sebasmo sta anqrwpina dikaiwmata - - opws anagnwrizontai pagkosmiws kai isxyoyn gia kaqe polith, gia kaqe anqrwpo toy planhth mas- - den mporei loipon kai den epitrepetai na jypna, opws eipate, kapoies alles mnhmes apo alles epoxes. Ola ayta, bebaiws, den isxyoyn, se kamia periptwsh, se mia xwra, opws einai h Ellada opoy einai apodedeigmenh h isonomia kai h isopoliteia gia oloys toys polites.

Deyteron: Einai fysiko otan syzhtoyntai tetoia qemata na ginetai mia syzhthsh kai se topiko epipedo. Den exoyn lhfqei, omws, oristikes apofaseis. Kai synepws, einai prowro kapoioi na prospaqoyn gia kaqara politikoys, kommatikoys h alloys logoys na ekmetalleyqoyn mia katastash poy qa dwsei lysh se problhmata, ta opoia eimai bebaios oti antimetwpizoyn aytes oi idies oi koinwnies poly syxna kai kapoioi prospaqoyn na tis kinhtopoihsoyn enantion aytwn twn lysewn.

Shmasia exei, loipon, na breqoyn apotelesmatikes lyseis, wste na meiwqei h piesh, h entash poy orismena apo ayta ta fainomena poy periegraca pio prin, dhmioyrgoyn sthn ellhnikh koinwnia kai sthn ellhnikh oikonomia. Aytos einai o stoxos. H amblynsh fainomenwn kai oxi h dhmioyrgia kapoiwn newn.

Asfalws, qa qymaste oti polles fwnes akoygontan to teleytaio diasthma oti dhqen den ginotan tipota kai oti oi Arxes den elambanan dhqen ekeina ta metra poy eprepe h htan wfelimo na lhfqoyn. Den mporei, loipon, ta idia proswpa poy xqes katekrinan kai thn Politeia kai tis Arxes oti dhqen den ekanan tipote, twra na kanoyn alloy eidoys kritikh, giati dhqen oi epejergazomenes lyseis kapoioys qa blacoyn. Nomizw oti h kritikh, tis perissoteres fores, proerxetai apo kat` epaggelma diamartyromenoys.

Sas eyxaristw.

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