Greek Government Press Briefing, 09-06-05

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Paraskeyh, 5 Ioynioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 206239470

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 5 Ioynioy 2009

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Geia sas.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KATSABOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, gnwrizw oti den sxoliazete dhmoskophseis, wstoso hqela na rwthsw, an qelete na topoqethqeite sto oti dyo hmeres prin apo tis ekloges yparxei dhmoskophsh ston ELEYQERO TYPO, ths MRB, poy paroysiazei dieyrynsh ths diaforas yper toy PASOK kai epishs dhmosieymata poy miloyn gia problhmatismo sth Nea Dhmokratia, httopaqeia, kathfeia, symfwna me dhmoskophseis poy exete sth diaqesh sas.

ANTWNAROS: Qa arxisw apo to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas. Ayto to opoio moy metaferete, den exei kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Kapoioi hqelhmena, stoxeymena, prospaqoyn na dhmioyrghsoyn esfalmenes entypwseis. Opws gnwrizete, emeis organwmena, syntonismena, me sygkekrimeno programma kai sxedio to opoio exoyme epejergastei, apeyqynomaste stoys 'Ellhnes polites s aytes tis eyrwekloges gia na krinoyn to dromo ton opoio akoloyqoyme, mazi me thn Eyrwph. Emeis eimaste h paratajh h opoia ejasfalise sthn Ellada, diaxronika, apo thn arxh, ton eyrwpaiko dromo. Kai gi ayto to dromo eimaste yperhfanoi.

Gia to prwto qema sto opoio anaferqhkate, swsta eipate oti den sxoliazw dhmoskophseis. Ekeino to opoio metraei einai h wra ths kalphs, otan oi 'Ellhnes polites proserxontai gia na ekfrasoyn o kaqenas thn protimhsh thn opoia exei, thn eklogikh toy epilogh.

Allwste, qa hqela na sas ypenqymisw, oti polles dhmoskophseis, sto prosfato malista parelqon, eidika otan diejagontai liges meres prin apo tis ekloges - - oxi mono sthn Ellada, alla kai se alles eyrwpaikes xwres - - apodeixqhkan astoxes.

ARMENHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o Giwrgos Papandreoy ejakoloyqei na dinei dhmochfismatiko xarakthra stis eyrwekloges, enw akoysa kai ton k. Papakwnstantinoy na leei oti to aithma allaghs ths kybernhshs, th Deytera qa ginei pio entono. Qelw to sxolio sas.

ANTWNAROS: To PASOK mporei na leei o,ti qelei. Exei epilejei na leei o,ti qelei. Kai gi ayto akribws egklwbizetai sth dikh toy epixeirhmatologia, thn adiejodh epixeirhmatologia, th synqhmatologia poy ths leipei o politikos logos, ths leipoyn ta epixeirhmata, ths leipei to sygkekrimeno sxedio. Den prokeitai se kamia periptwsh na akoloyqhsoyme ton k. Papandreoy kai to komma toy stis apiqanothtes tis opoies diatypwnei kaqe hmera.

Qa sas pw mono ena xarakthristiko: Xqes eipe oti mexri to 2020, moy fainetai, skeftetai h skopeyei na dhmioyrghsei 10 ekatommyria nees qeseis ergasias. Kai an ypoteqei oti sthn Ellada shmera exoyme 5-6 ekatommyria qeseis ergasias, ayto shmainei oti qa prepei na exei triplasiastei o plhqysmos ths Elladas, prokeimenoy na katalhfqoyn aytes oi qeseis ergasias. Katalabainete, loipon, oti tetoia epixeirhmatologia, den mporei na thn antipalecei kaneis gia na ena poly aplo logo: Dioti den exei kanena logiko ereisma.

PALAIOLOGOS: Se sxesh me thn ypoqesh ths diafyghs Karabela kai twn xeirismwn poy eginan gia to perifhmo shma, to thlegrafhma apo thn ellhnikh Presbeia, h kyria Mpakogiannh se allepallhles thleoptikes emfaniseis ths pernaei sthn antepiqesh kai kathgorei kapoioys gia ``anqrwpofagia''. Epeidh thn eqesan sto stoxastro, xrewnontas ths kati parapanw ap osa toylaxiston h idia anelabe ws politikh eyqynh. Ontws, pisteyete oti yparxei ``anqrwpofagia'' sto qema ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Ekeino to opoio gnwrizw einai oti ta epixeirhmata kai oi qeseis tis opoies paroysiase kai graptws, prin apo liges hmeres, kai opws eipate se kapoies thleoptikes emfaniseis h ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn kyria Ntora Mpakogiannh, einai apolytws basima. Einai peistika. Den mporoyn na amfisbhthqoyn apo kanenan. Antiqeta, qelw na pw, oti kapoioi alloi systhmatika epitiqentai se oles tis diadikasies, epitiqentai stis diwktikes arxes, me tropo o opoios einai poly diafanos. Ti qelw na pw me ayto: Giati den qeloyn na milhsoyn gia toys ypoptoys kai toys enoxoys, toys oysiastikoys enoxoys aytoy toy skandaloy toy PASOK; Enoxoys poy proerxontai apo to xwro toys, to diko toys politiko xwro. Apokleistika kai mono.

PALAIOLOGOS: Se sxesh pali me ayth thn istoria, dyo meres prin apo tis Eyrwekloges, qa epimeinw sthn erwthsh ean telika htan laqos oi xeirismoi twn leitoyrgwn ths Dikaiosynhs, gia tis syllhceis twn melwn ths oikogeneias toy Xrhstoy Karabela, twn paidiwn toy.

ANTWNAROS: Eiste palaios politikos syntakths se ayton ton xwro kai asfalws gnwrizete kati poy exw pei kat epanalhch: Eimai o teleytaios anqrwpos, o opoios qa sxoliasw eite me ton enan, eite me ton allon tropo thn symperifora ths ellhnikhs Dikaiosynhs.

NTSOYNOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, hqela na rwthsw ean exei metabei klimakio ths EYP sth Germania gia toys kyrioys Xristoforako kai Karabela kai an exei ginei ayto, an exei yparjei synennohsh, ean exei zhthqei adeia apo thn germanikh kybernhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Den eimai enhmeros gia kati tetoio.

ARMENHS: Pantws kyrie Ekproswpe, o k. Papandreoy xqes apedwse sthn kybernhsh eyqynh gia aytes tis syllhceis. Eipe oti h chfos sth Nea Dhmokratia einai se mia kybernhsh poy anoije aerodromia gia na kleisei stomata kai ystera arxise panikoblhth na syllambanei gynaikopaida.

ANTWNAROS: Me tetoioy eidoys synqhmatologies, oi opoies den exoyn kamia apolytws bash, prospaqoyn kapoioi - - kai anaferomai bebaiws ston arxhgo ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs kai ton aneyqyno tropo me ton opoio xeirizetai to sygkekrimeno qema - - na dhmioyrghsoyn esfalmenes entypwseis. Profanws o k. Papandreoy den exei akoysei tipota sth zwh toy gia diakrish twn ejoysiwn. H kanei oti den exei akoysei tipote.

Opws profanws, epilegei syneidhta na jexasei, oti kata to krisimo diasthma, to opoio ereynatai apo thn Dikaiosynh, to 1998 mexri to 2003, htan melos, ejexon melos olwn ekeinwn twn kybernhsewn, poy phran tis epilhcimes, amfisbhthsimes, perierges apofaseis gia programmatikes symfwnies, pollwn ekatontadwn ekatommyriwn eyrw - - nomizw malista disekatommyriwn - - kai tis synypegrafe oles. Den diaxwrise poyqena th qesh toy.

Ti exei na pei gia ayto; Profanws tipote. Kai nomizw oti h gnwsh poy exei o idios oti symmeteixe se oles aytes tis diadikasies, einai poy ton kanei twra na kanei fygh pros ta mpros. Kai na epirriptei eyqynes se aytoys poy den exoyn kamia eyqynh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den gnwrizw an exete plhroforhqei gia ton qanato telika, oti katelhje o astynomikos, o opoios eixe pyrobolhqei se ekeino to periergo peristatiko prin apo ena mhna, me thn emfanish kapoias gynaikas...

ANTWNAROS: Ekfrazw th lyph moy gia ton qanato opoioydhpote synanqrwpoy mas.

MELIGKWNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate prin gia enoxoys sxetika me to skandalo PASOK, poy einai apo to xwro toy PASOK...

ANTWNAROS: Eipa ``ypoptoys kai enoxoys''.

MELIGKWNHS: Nai. Poioi akribws einai oi enoxoi;

ANTWNAROS: Einai ta onomata, ta opoia prin apo liges meres anefera edw kai ayta akribws kai polla alla, ennow. Einai gnwsta ta onomata ayta sthn ellhnikh koinwnia. Kai oso kai an prospaqoyn orismenoi na ta aposiwphsoyn den ta katafernoyn. Einai gnwsto oti eimaste mikros topos. Kai oloi mas jeroyme apo poy krataei h skoyfia toy kaqenos kai poia diadromh exei kanei.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo sabbatokyriako.

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