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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 4 Maioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 200214593

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 4 Maioy 2009

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Kalhmera sas, kalh ebdomada kai kalo mhna se osoys den exw eyxhqei thlefwnika.

" Ayrio, Trith 5 Maioy, stis 7.30 to apogeyma, o Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs qa milhsei sthn ekdhlwsh toy Syndesmoy Ellhnikwn Toyristikwn Epixeirhsewn, toy SETE, poy qa pragmatopoihqei sto Megaro Moysikhs Aqhnwn.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, shmera to brady yparxei mia poly krisimh chfoforia sth Boylh. Me ola ayta poy exoyn symbei, anarwtiemai poios einai o stoxos ths kybernhshs gi` ayth thn chfoforia.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh den exei stoxo sth sygkekrimenh chfoforia gia enan poly aplo logo: Einai mia koinoboyleytikh diadikasia - -sas exw pei- - h opoia oloklhrwnetai shmera. Afora to Koinoboylio. Afora th leitoyrgia toy Koinoboylioy, enos ycistoy qesmoy ths Dhmokratias kai h diadikasia ayth, h opoia exei sygkekrimeno stoxo, sygkekrimeno antikeimeno, oloklhrwnetai shmera me thn chfoforia sto Koinoboylio.

Kaqe chfoforia sto Koinoboylio exei th dikh ths shmasia kai th dikh ths barythta. Kaqe chfoforia sto Koinoboylio einai shmantikh.

XIWTHS: H chfoforia ayth, me dedomeno oti einai mystikh, h kybernhsh den anagnwrizei oti mesw ayths dokimazetai h pleiochfia ths sth Boylh; Qelw na pw, ean to apotelesma einai antiqeto me ayto poy proteinei to porisma ths pleiochfias, den tiqetai ena zhthma gia thn kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Qa pw, gia mia akomh fora, oti to antikeimeno ths shmerinhs chfoforias einai sygkekrimeno. Einai to ean qa parapemfqei h den qa parapemfqei enas boyleyths. Ayto einai to antikeimeno kai den exei kamia allh synistamenh.

KAKALHS: Mporei na agnohsoyn oi boyleytes ths pleiochfias oti to apallaktiko boyleyma ths pleiochfias ths proanakritikhs Epitrophs h mporei na agnohsoyn oti analoga me to apotelesma mporei na odhghqoyme se prowres ekloges h oxi;

ANTWNAROS: Exw anaferqei polles fores apo ayto to bhma sto sygkekrimeno qema. Opws eikazw oti isxyei kai prepei na isxyei gia oloys toys boyleytes toy ellhnikoy Koinoboylioy, gia toys boyleytes olwn twn kommatwn sth Boylh, etsi bebaiws kai gia toys boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias isxyei oti chfizoyn kata syneidhsh.

KAKALHS: Kata syneidhsh, symfwna me to apallaktiko porisma...

ANTWNAROS: ``Kata syneidhsh'' shmainei ``kata syneidhsh'' gia osoys gnwrizoyn kala ellhnika.

BLABIANOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, kata syneidhsh gi` ayth kaqayth thn ypoqesh h kata syneidhsh gia to ean h oxi qa exoyme ekloges;

ANTWNAROS: Lew gia mia akomh fora oti to antikeimeno ths shmerinhs chfoforias einai sygkekrimeno. Sas eipa prohgoymenws poio einai. Einai jekaqaro ayto. Den exw na prosqesw kati allo.

TSIOYFOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h kybernhsh qa hqele, amesws meta thn chfoforia kai anejarthta apo to apotelesma ths, mia paraithsh toy k. Paylidh;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati panw se ayto. Sas eipa oti h stash toy kaqe boyleyth einai qema poy afora ton idio.

XRHSTAKOS: O k. Papandreoy zhthse apo ton Prwqypoyrgo xqes, sthn epistolh poy exei gracei kai anarthqhke sto diadiktyo, na epitrecei stoys boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias na chfisoyn kata syneidhsh. Ayto shmainei oti jerei kati parapanw, yparxei kapoia entolh, yparxei kati apo ayta poy syzhtoyme tis teleytaies hmeres;

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw ean jerei oti profanws den epitrepei o idios stoys dikoys toy boyleytes na chfisoyn kata syneidhsh, dioti egw sas lew oti oi boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias - -eimai bebaios- - oti qa chfisoyn kata syneidhsh. Egw eikazw oti ayto isxyei kai gia toys boyleytes twn allwn koinoboyleytikwn kommatwn. Den katalabainw ti qelei na pei me ayto o k. Papandreoy. Profanws, h stash ayth apeikonizei ton tropo me ton opoio antimetwpizei o idios th dikh toy koinoboyleytikh omada, xwris na to paradexetai bebaiws.

XIWTHS: Proseja, xqes, kai tis prohgoymenes hmeres yphrxan tetoioy eidoys dhlwseis, alla xqes proseja mia dhlwsh ths k. Mpakogiannh, h opoia safws ypedeiknye ston k. Paylidh th lysh ths paraithshs. Qelw na sas rwthsw, ean h k. Mpakogiannh, alla kai ta alla stelexh poy ekfrazoyn tetoioy eidoys apoceis, an ekfrazoyn proswpikes apoceis h an ekfrazoyn thn epiqymia ths kybernhshs.

ANTWNAROS: H k. Mpakogiannh ekane mia synolikh topoqethsh, xqes - - nomizw sth Lamia opoy milhse- - thn opoia egw prosypografw. Th synolikh ths, omws, dhlwsh.

XIWTHS: H synolikh ths dhlwsh katelhje se ena symperasma. Oti oi boyleytes prepei na dieykolynoyn thn paratajh toys otan brisketai pia se tetoio shmeio mia ereyna, eite ths Dikaiosynhs, eite ths Boylhs.

ANTWNAROS: H k. Mpakogiannh eipe epi lejei oti h Nea Dhmokratia den ekbiazetai kai den ejagorazetai. Kai sas lew oti th dhlwsh ths k. Mpakogiannh, th synolikh dhlwsh ths k. Mpakogiannh, thn prosypografw.

XIWTHS: Diabazete ena kommati mono...

ANTWNAROS: Opws sas eipa kai prohgoymenws, th synolikh dhlwsh ths k. Mpakogiannh thn prosypografw.

SANTAMOYRHS: Sto arqro toy k. Papandreoy, sthn istoselida toy PASOK, anaferetai sto dia tayta ``na matwsoyme oloi, na bgoyme oloi kalyteroi apo ayto, na kleisoyme th selida poy prosballei ton Ellhna polith''. Ayto anaforika me thn koinoboyleytikh kai dikastikh diereynhsh twn oswn ypoqesewn legontai h einai skandalwdeis. Pws to sxoliazete; Pws sxoliazete ayth thn prosklhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Egw den antilambanomai ti prosklhsh einai ayth. Dioti h Nea Dhmokratia exei pei, to exei janapei, to janaleei kai shmera h kybernhsh, dia toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy, oti oles oi ypoqeseis prepei na diereynhqoyn. Den epitrepetai na meinei poyqena skia. Ean o k. Papandreoy anaferetai sto diko toy xwro kai gnwrizei kati parapanw, den exei para na to kataqesei.

SANTAMOYRHS: Qewreite, dhladh, oti den yparxei opoiadhpote periptwsh poy qa mporoyse na symfwnhqei metajy kybernhshs kai PASOK, wste na diereynhqei peraiterw; Kai to lew ayto, giati akoygontas sas twra kai akoygontas kai stelexh toy PASOK, alla kai diabazontas to arqro toy k. Papandreoy, blepw oti xrhsimopoieite mia taytoshmh orologia.

ANTWNAROS: Makria apo emena h taytoshmh topoqethsh, an sygkrinete thn topoqethsh ths Neas Dhmokratias me tis topoqethseis toy k. Papandreoy kai toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Ekeinoi exoyn kanei shmaia toys th skandalologia me stoxo, opws exw pei kai alles fores, na eytelisoyn, eite syneidhta - -egw pisteyw oti syneidhta to kanoyn- - eite xwris na exoyn syneidhsh twn oswn kanoyn, th Dikaiosynh kai thn politikh zwh toy topoy.

Emas, mas endiaferei h diereynhsh twn ypoqesewn, oswn ypoqesewn pragmatika yparxoyn kai oxi oswn anaptyssontai mesa sta kefalia kapoiwn kyriwn toy PASOK.

KAKALHS: Prosypografete, eipate th dhlwsh ths k. Mpakogiannh gia thn ypoqesh Paylidh...

ANTWNAROS: Tis dhlwseis ths k. Mpakogiannh, xqes, synolika.

KAKALHS: Hqela na sas rwthsw, ean synypografete kai th dhlwsh ths gia to periexomeno twn eyrweklogwn, h opoia eipe epi lejei ``mesa apo thn kalph twn eyrweklogwn na stalei ena isxyro mhnyma sthrijhs ths kybernhshs kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy''. Dhladh, ena dhmochfisma, metatrepontas oysiastika thn chfo stis eyrwekloges se ena dhmochfisma yper ths kybernhshs, kanontas to antistrofo akribws poy epixeirei to PASOK san dhmochfisma kata ths kybernhshs. Einai ayto to periexomeno poy dinei h kybernhsh stis ekloges; Symfwneite me thn k. Mpakogiannh;

ANTWNAROS: Eimai bebaios oti oi Ellhnes polites synexws sthrizoyn thn kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias.

KAKALHS: Tote, allo eixate pei oti htan to periexomeno twn eklogwn.

ANTWNAROS: To antikeimeno twn eklogwn einai safes poio einai. Sas exw pei kai alles fores oti bebaiws oi eyrwekloges periexoyn kai politika mhnymata. Thn idia hmera poy eipa peri ekloghs twn 22 eyrwboyleytwn, eipa kai ayto poy anefera molis.

KAKALHS: Tote isws qa to eipate, alla hqela na rwthsw, ean symfwneite oti oi eyrwekloges apoktoyn xarakthra dhmochfismatos yper ths kybernhshs.

ANTWNAROS: Ayth einai dikh sas ermhneia...

KAKALHS: Oxi, einai dhlwsh ths k. Mpakogiannh, sas diabasa...

ANTWNAROS: Ekeino to opoio lew einai oti oi Ellhnes polites, me tis staseis toys, me tis prajeis toys, me th symperifora toys, synexws sthrizoyn thn kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias kai toy Kwsta Karamanlh, kaqws kai tis politikes poy apofasizoyn kai efarmozoyn, me synepeia, apofasistikothta kai pros ofelos toy topoy, h kybernhsh kai o Prwqypoyrgos toys.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, apo poy prokyptei ayto oti sthrizoyn thn kybernhtikh politikh; Apo to 25% sta gkalop;

SWTHRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe eipate oti eiste bebaios oti oi boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias qa chfisoyn shmera kata syneidhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Egw eipa oti oi boyleytes prepei kai ofeiloyn - -kai eimai bebaios oti qa to kanoyn- - na chfizoyn kata syneidhsh. Einai to aytonohto, jerete. Kai dhmioyrgeitai mia megalh syzhthsh gia to ``kata syneidhsh''. Ti perimenete dhladh na chfisoyn oi boyleytes se mia mystikh chfoforia; Asfalws chfizoyn kata syneidhsh.

SWTHRIADOY: Nai. Ayto poy qelw na sas rwthsw einai to ejhs: Akoysa ton k. Giakoymato na leei oti an den etiqeto qema eklogwn kai an eixe paraithqei o k. Paylidhs, qa chfize yper ths parapomphs, enw twra den qa to kanei.

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete, den apantw se senaria.

SWTHRIADOY: Oxi, einai dhlwsh toy.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti den apantw se senaria kai den sxoliazw dhlwseis boyleytwn. H pragmatikh katastash einai shmera me th diejagwgh ths chfoforias. Me ta ``an'' den ginetai politikh.

TSIOYFOS: Eipate prin apo ligo, epanalabate mallon, oti h kybernhsh qelei oles oi ypoqeseis na diereynhqoyn gia na mhn meinei se kamia skia...

ANTWNAROS: Bebaiws.

TSIOYFOS:... kai symplhrwsate amesws meta oti, aytes stis opoies yparxei pragmatiko antikeimeno diereynhshs kai oxi aytes poy piqanon na einai sta myala kapoiwn allwn.

ANTWNAROS: Malista.

TSIOYFOS: Thn perasmenh bdomada, otan aporricate eseis proswpika to aithma toy PASOK gia deyterh proanakritikh gia thn ypoqesh Paylidh, gia th deyterh ypoqesh, aporricate - -an den kanw laqos- - synolika to na syzhthqoyn sth Boylh mesa apo proanakritikes kai oi ypoloipes ekkremeis ypoqeseis.

ANTWNAROS: Eipa egw tetoio pragma; Den diabasate kala th dhlwsh moy.

TSIOYFOS: Ayto diabasa, etsi ermhneythke h dhlwsh sas.

ANTWNAROS: Ayto einai diko sas qema, ti diabasate kai ti egracan orismenoi. H dhlwsh moy einai sygkekrimenh.

TSIOYFOS: Telos pantwn. Anejarthta ap' ayto, poies kata thn apoch sas, mia kai lete aytes poy pragmatika xreiazontai, poies kata thn apoch ths kybernhshs, kata thn apoch th dikh sas, einai aytes poy xreiazontai peraiterw diereynhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Opoia ypoqesh erxetai kai krinetai apo thn pleiochfia ths Boylhs twn Ellhnwn oti exei antikeimeno pros diereynhsh, h diereynhsh ginetai. Einai poly aplo pws leitoyrgei to politiko mas systhma kai pws leitoyrgei h Dikaiosynh.

TSIOYFOS: Alla einai sthn kalh proqesh, na to pw etsi, ths kybernhshs poies telika qa syzhthqoyn kai poies oxi. Poies qa aporrifqoyn.

ANTWNAROS: Kanete laqos.

TSIOYFOS: E, pws kanw laqos;

ANTWNAROS: Kanete laqos. H Boylh, den jerw an eseis h kapoioi alloi qeloyn na amfisbhtoyn to qesmiko rolo kai th qesmikh leitoyrgia ths Boylhs...

TSIOYFOS: Den amfisbhtw to qesmiko rolo ths Boylhs, me sygxwreite.

ANTWNAROS: Sas parakalw poly. Afhste me na teleiwsw: H Boylh ws koryfaios qesmos ths xwras mas leitoyrgei me sygkekrimenoys kanones. Qa moy epitrecete, loipon, egw na exw plhrh sebasmo pros th qesmikh leitoyrgia ths Boylhs.

SANTAMOYRHS: Sto logo toy o k. Karamanlhs xqes, dhlwse oti oi akrothtes toy PASOK odhgoyn sto periqwrio. Qa hqela na rwthsw, pws ayto einai symbato me to oti to PASOK prohgeitai stis dhmoskophseis toy teleytaioy diasthmatos.

ANTWNAROS: Exw pei kai alles fores: Den sxoliazw, se kamia periptwsh, dhmoskophseis. H metrhsh, h ekfrash ths boylhshs twn Ellhnwn politwn, ginetai thn hmera ths kalphs. Eimai bebaios oti oi Ellhnes polites den deixnoyn apolytws kamia katanohsh, aporriptoyn kaqeta ton tropo me ton opoio politeyetai to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Eite otan brisketai o arxhgos toy sto ejwteriko, opoy kai briskei kaqe fora thn eykairia na katasykofanthsei thn idia toy th xwra, eite sto eswteriko opoy me to gnwsto laikismo poy xarakthrizei edw kai kairo to komma toy, yposxetai stoys pantes, ta panta. Me tetoia stash den ginetai, den askeitai ajiopisth politikh. Oi Ellhnes polites to jeroyn, sygkrinoyn kai krinoyn. Kai otan erqei h wra ths kalphs, tote qa ekferoyn kai thn apoch toys.

Ayth einai h desmeytikh apoch. H stigmh ths kalphs. Kai oxi kapoies dhmoskophseis, oi opoies einai xrhsimes ws ergaleia metrhshs tasewn gia mia dedomenh stigmh kai tipota parapanw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Me dedomenes tis arnhtikes probleceis, tis nees, ths Komision, ti protiqetai na kanei h kybernhsh; Qa epanadiapragmateytei tis probleceis aytes, prokeimenoy na kerdisei xrono ews ton prosexh Oktwbrh; Ennow epanadiapragmateysh ws pros to oti qa parei metra, alla gia to pote qa ta parei.

ANTWNAROS: Qa gnwrizete asfalws oti me tis nees probleceis ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs anaqewrhqhkan oi probleceis gia oles tis xwres, sxedon oles tis xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs epi ta xeirw gia pollosth fora apo to perasmeno fqinopwro. Kai epeidh speydoyn kapoioi na poyn h na probaloyn oti oi probleceis aytes, oi xeiroteres, oi dysmenesteres, isxyoyn mono gia thn Ellada, profanws jexnoyn oti gia oles tis xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, xwres malista oikonomika isxyroteres kata tekmhrio apo thn Ellada, ginontai probleceis, ginontai anaqewrhseis toso gia ta elleimmata, toso gia thn anergia, oso kai gia thn anaptyjh, oi opoies einai poly dramatikoteres ap' o,ti isxyoyn gia thn Ellada.

Sas dinw dyo-tria paradeigmata: H Germania molis prin apo liges hmeres anakoinwse oti skopeyei na anaqewrhsei thn anaptyjh ths gia to trexon etos, an qymamai kala, apo meion 2,5% se meion 5%, dhladh yperdiplasiasmo pros ta katw.

O OOSA anakoinwse, xqes h proxqes, gia th Gallia, oti to elleimma problepetai na ftasei gia thn epomenh xronia, to 2010, sto 8,3% an qymamai kala.

Sthn Ispania, mia xwra opoy kybernoyn politikoi omoideates toy arxhgoy toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, toy k. Papandreoy, h anergia eftase se ych rekor gia opoiadhpote allh eyrwpaikh xwra, 17,4% an qymamai.

Ti qelw na pw m' ayto; Oti isxyoyn ayta poy sas leme synexws edw kai mhnes. Kaqe problech gia to ti qa ginei toys epomenoys mhnes oson afora thn oikonomia ths eyrwzwnhs, twn xwrwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, alla kai pera apo ekei, einai parakindyneymenh. Giati ta dedomena synexws allazoyn. Kai blepete oti se kaqe xwra ta stoixeia ginontai oloena kai dysmenestera. Den pisteyw fysika na nomizei kaneis oti h Ellada mporei na apotelesei apolyth ejairesh apo ayto ton kanona. Exoyme omws akomh kai twra, poy ginontai dysmenesteres probleceis, stoixeia apo ta opoia prokyptei - -apo ta stoixeia ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, ayta poy epikalesthke pro oligoy swsta o k. Palaiologos- - oti h Ellada brisketai se eynoikoterh qesh apo alles xwres. Alla qa sas parakaloysa ola ta stoixeia, ta anaferomena sthn Ellada, na ta blepei kaneis mesa sto plaisio twn stoixeiwn poy isxyoyn gia olh thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh sthn prosfath synanthsh poy eixan o Prwqypoyrgos me ton k. Mparozo, ton opoio exete sthrijei gia thn epaneklogh toy, o k. Mparozo anaferqhke sth desmeysh, opws eipe xarakthristika, ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs na labei metra. Me dedomenes kai tis probleceis aytes, eidika gia th xwra mas pera apo to ti ginetai sygkritika se alles xwres ths Eyrwphs, pote protiqetai h kybernhsh na parei metra gia thn oikonomia thn opoia eirhsqw en parodw o Prwqypoyrgos protassei se kaqe toy, qa elega, omilia kai topoqethsh;

ANTWNAROS: Kai etsi prepei na einai. Giati h oikonomia kai osa symbainoyn gyrw mas einai ayto to qema to opoio apasxolei dikaiws th megalh pleiochfia twn Ellhnwn politwn. Den exw, omws, na sas pw kati perissotero gi' ayto to opoio eseis apokaleite ``metra''.

Qa hqela, omws, na sas ypenqymisw gia mia akomh fora oti emeis exoyme pei edw kai kairo oti eimaste panw apo tis ejelijeis. Tis parakoloyqoyme. Lambanoyme oles tis apofaseis kai oles tis prwtoboylies oi opoies einai anagkaies se kaqe stigmh kai qa kanoyme oles tis diorqwseis, oles tis parembaseis, oles tis beltiwseis oi opoies apaitoyntai apo th sygkyria. Me th megalyterh dynath koinwnikh eyaisqhsia, opws allwste exoyme apodeijei olo ayto to diasthma sthn prajh.

KAKALHS: Qa exete thn tolmh na anakoinwsete prin apo tis eyrwekloges ti metra qa parete gia na katebasete to elleimma sto 3% mexri to telos toy 2010, opws desmeythke o prwqypoyrgos, opws dhlwse mallon o prwqypoyrgos meta th synanthsh toy me ton k. Mparozo;

ANTWNAROS: O,ti exoyme na poyme, qa to poyme sto xrono poy prepei.

KAKALHS: O xronos poy prepei; Yparxei katallhloteros xronos apo to na to peite proeklogika gia na jerei o laos, na krinei; Eseis eipate prohgoymenws oti h metrhsh ths boylhshs ginetai thn hmera ths kalphs. Wraia. Gia na ekfrastei ayqentika kai oxi paramorfwtika h boylhsh prepei na peite akribws ti metra skefteste na parete.

ANTWNAROS: Ta metra, oi apofaseis, oi prwtoboylies, lambanontai opws prepei na lhfqoyn thn katallhlh stigmh. Oyte me kaqysterhsh, opws ypainisseste eseis, oyte prowra opws endexomenws eyxeste.

KAKALHS: Thn epomenh twn eyrweklogwn prepei na ta anakoinwsete. O k. Papaqanasioy prepei na ta pei thn epomenh twn eyrweklogwn.

FANIDHS: Anaferqhkate shmera kai alles meres omws, polles fores, sthn orqh krish twn politwn. Oi polites, loipon, mesw twn gkalop poy dhmosieyontai, zhtoyn epitaktika kai malista se ychlo pososto, thn allagh toy nomoy peri eyqynhs twn Ypoyrgwn. Eseis ti skefteste na kanete; Qa ton allajete;

ANTWNAROS: Exw erwthqei palaiotera kai exw apanthsei. Den exw na prosqesw kati.

FANIDHS: Lew, mhpws, yparxei kati neotero, twra kai me ta teleytaia gkalop.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na sas pw kati neotero. Qa to maqainate.

SANTAMOYRHS: Anaferqhkate prin stoys Ispanoys sosialistes. Einai ena erwthma giati h ellhnikh kybernhsh mporei na symfwnhsei me toys Ispanoys sosialistes se oti afora sth sthrijh toy Mparozo kai den mporei me toys Ellhnes sosialistes. Qa hqela thn apanthsh sas.

ANTWNAROS: Qa hqela na sas ypenqymisw oti h sthrijh ths epanekloghs toy Proedroy k. Mparozo einai mia apofash, h opoia elhfqh - -an qymamai kala- - prin apo dyo mhnes se Synodo toy Eyrwpaikoy Laikoy Kommatos. Den yparxei, loipon, kamia symfwnia. Profanws oi Ispanoi sosialistes, apo o,ti moy lete, krinoyn ikanopoihtikh, qetikh th qhteia toy nyn Proedroy ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs kai prosypografoyn apo th dikh toys thn pleyra th qetikh stash, thn opoia exoyn apofasisei na thrhsoyn oi kybernhseis, twn opoiwn ta kybernwnta kommata anhkoyn sto Eyrwpaiko Laiko Komma.

KAKALHS: Mhpws einai kai dikoi sas omoideates oi Ispanoi sosialistes;

ANTWNAROS: Rwthste toys idioys. Egw den ekproswpw toys Ispanoys sosialistes.

SANTAMOYRHS: Oi sygkliseis sto pedio toy Eyrwpaikoy Laikoy Kommatos gia to proswpo toy Proedroy exoyn na kanoyn mono gia th qesh toy Proedroy h kai gia alles organikes qeseis ths Epitrophs;

ANTWNAROS: Egw gnwrizw th sygkekrimenh syzhthsh, h opoia exei ginei. Allwste kai o Proedros Mparozo htan thn perasmenh ebdomada sth Synodo ths Barsobias kai etyxe ej oswn eida kai egw - -hmoyn parwn- - poly qermhs ypodoxhs kai sthrijhs.

KAKALHS: Pws sxoliazete th dhlwsh toy boyleyth ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Manwlh oti prowqeitai me antideontologiko tropo h ypochfiothta toy k. Andrianoy sto Nomo Argolidas, mesw ths episkechs toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

ANTWNAROS: Den kanw kanena sxolio gia dhlwseis boyleytwn.

KAKALHS: Akoysa oti thn ypochfiothta thn epikaleitai kai h ERT.

ANTWNAROS: Gnwrizete oti gia na yparxei ypochfiothta se kati, prepei na yparxoyn kai ekloges. Me exete rwthsei kai alles fores gia ypochfiothtes. Oi ypochfiothtes ginontai epishmws gnwstes otan kai opws orizei to Syntagma, oi nomoi kai eidika o eklogikos nomos...

KAKALHS: Epishmws nai...

ANTWNAROS: Alla oytws h allws den exw na kanw kanena sxolio gia dhlwseis memonwmenwn boyleytwn.

TSIOYFOS: Mias kai milhsame gia ypochfiothtes, den skopeya na rwthsw. Diabazw tis teleytaies hmeres plhrofories, oi opoies fainetai oti proerxontai apo to eswteriko ths kybernhshs, oti o Prwqypoyrgos exei hdh apofasisei, an den paraithqei o k. Paylidhs na mhn einai stis epomenes eklogikes listes ths Neas Dhmokratias. Epibebaiwnete ayth thn plhroforia;

ANTWNAROS: Me sygxwreite, o,ti diabazete den mporw na sas to epikyrwnw egw, epeidh kapoios skefthke na gracei...

TSIOYFOS: Rwthsa an isxyei.

ANTWNAROS: Den mporw na sas epikyrwnw o,ti grafetai se dhmosieymata. Isxyei, sas eipa, h prohgoymenh apanthsh.

TSIOYFOS: (den akoygetai)

ANTWNAROS: Ma, exete thn aisqhsh oti ginetai sto eswteriko ths Neas Dhmokratias kapoia syzhthsh gia dhqen chfodeltia th stigmh poy den yparxei qema eklogwn; Sas diabebaiw oti den ginetai kamia. Ektos toytoy den eimai Ekproswpos ths Neas Dhmokratias.

Sas eyxaristw.

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