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Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-11-20

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Pempth, 20 Noembrioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 170835175

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 20 Noembrioy 2008

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Ayrio, Paraskeyh 21 Noembrioy, stis 9:30, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio pros egkrish toy Proypologismoy, opws ginetai kaqe xronia, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh. Argotera, o Prwqypoyrgos qa brisketai sth Boylh, prokeimenoy na metasxei sth diadikasia toy koinoboyleytikoy elegxoy.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

MANH: Exei wra Prwqypoyrgoy;

ANTWNAROS: Malista.

GKATSIOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, meta tis teleytaies ejelijeis skopeyete na kalesete ws martyra sthn Ejetastikh Epitroph ton ekproswpo Typoy toy PASOK, ton k. Papakwnstantinoy gia na dwsei dieykriniseis oson afora se synanthsh poy eixe me ton epixeirhmatia Papista;

ANTWNAROS: Ayto afora th leitoyrgia ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs.

KAPRALOS: Hqela na rwthsw to pws ermhneyei h kybernhsh toys xeirismoys toy k. Papakwnstantinoy, dhladh na apokrycei th synanthsh poy eixe me ton k. Papista.

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei kamia amfibolia oti exoyme ena terastio politiko alla kai hqiko qema. Ena koryfaio stelexos toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, enas anqrwpos se ypeyqynh qesh, o k. Papakwnstantinoy, poy einai ekproswpos toy PASOK, alla kai toy arxhgoy toy, toy k. Gewrgioy Papandreoy, einai enhmero  opws apodeiknyetai gia thn yparjh enos DVD ekbiasmoy. Kai ti kanei; Anti na paei na pei osa stoixeia exei ekei poy prepei na paei, dhladh, ston Eisaggelea  sas ypenqymizw oti o k. Papakwnstantinoy peran apo ekproswpos toy PASOK einai kai boyleyths Kozanhs- - apokryptei osa jerei. Gia poly kairo malista. Gia dyo mhnes. O idios to eipe. Kai oxi mono ayto, sygkataneyei, synainei sthn klhteysh martyrwn sthn Ejetastikh Epitroph, poy apodeiknyetai oti einai ceydomartyres. Apodeiknyetai oti anhkoyn se ena periergo esmo anqrwpwn, poy exoyn amesh sxesh me to DVD toy ekbiasmoy. Kai ola ayta ginontai apo aytoys toys anqrwpoys, me toys opoioys profanws to PASOK exei sxeseis, me ena stoxo: Na plhjoyn ton Prwqypoyrgo, na plhjoyn thn eklegmenh kybernhsh ths xwras.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Epeidh egw qymamai oti sysswmh h antipoliteysh, prin apo kapoioys mhnes, otan eskase ayth h istoria kai xwris na yparxei oyte kan endeijh, zhtoyse thn paraithsh toy tote Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy, toy Qodwroy Roysopoyloy xwris na yparxei se kanena xarti to onoma toy. Qelw na proxwrhsw thn erwthsh toy synadelfoy ligo pio pera. Kata thn apoch sas, kata thn apoch ths kybernhshs, o k. Papakwnstantinoy qa prepei gia logoys toylaxiston eyqijias na ypobalei thn paraithsh toy shmera;

ANTWNAROS: Ayta einai qemata poy ta apofasizei to PASOK. Emeis, opws gnwrizete, ws kybernhsh den anameignyomaste stis diadikasies poy aforoyn sth leitoyrgia allwn politikwn sxhmatismwn.

STAQOPOYLOS: Sth xqesinobradinh sas anakoinwsh  apanthsh meta apo aytes tis ejelijeis me ton k. Papakwnstantinoy qetete arketa erwthmata. Ena ej aytwn einai ti syndeei ton k. Papakwnstantinoy me ton syntopith toy ton k. Papista. Eipate prin apo ligo oti eklegetai o k. Papakwnstantinoy sthn Kozanh, einai gnwsto ayto, kai o k. Papistas einai epixeirhmatias ths Kozanhs. To erwthma poy tiqetai edw ti syndeei me ton syntopith toy ton k. Papista einai rhtoriko h exete kapoies plhrofories;

ANTWNAROS: Einai oysiastiko kai perimenw apanthseis apo ton k. Papakwnstantinoy. Xqes o k. Papakwnstantinoy eixe to qrasos, arga to brady, na bgei kai na pei oti eixe apanthsei se ola ta erwthmata, ta piestika erwthmata poy toy ekanan oi synadelfoi sas kata th xqesinh enhmerwsh poy ekane ws ekproswpos toy PASOK. Na, loipon ena erwthma sto opoio den exei apanthsei. Giati edw exoyme mia koinh enoxh siwph. O k. Papakwnstantinoy gia dyo oloklhroys mhnes kai afoy plhroforhqhke  anaferomai stis teleytaies hmeres twra pia oti ayto to DVD toy ekbiasmoy sxetizotan me ayta ta atoma me thn ypopth, thn periergh drasthriothta, ejakoloyqoyse na mh leei tipota. Ejakoloyqoyse na mh leei koybenta gia to oti prin apo dyo mhnes se mia syzhthsh, eixe plhroforhqei gia thn yparjh aytoy toy DVD toy ekbiasmoy. Alla kai o martyras, o k. Papistas giati apekryce apo thn Ejetastikh Epitroph oti eixe enhmerwsei sxetika to PASOK kai ton ekproswpo toy k. Papandreoy prin apo dyo mhnes; Epanalambanw: Ti krybetai pisw apo ayto to enoxo mystiko; To koino mystiko;

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Dhladh, gia na katalabw kati, kyrie Ekproswpe, to terastio politiko qema einai oti den eipe o k. Papakwnstantinoy oti enas epixeirhmatias toy phge ena DVD kai den einai to skandalo toy Batopaidioy poy edw kai pente mhnes rwtame kai mas lete oti exete apanthsei, enw shmera emfanizeste lalistatos kai me dhlwseis toy k. Papista;

ANTWNAROS: Ean ayta katalabate apo osa eipa, eyxaristws na ta epanalabw. Loipon: Exoyme thn ypoqesh toy Batopaidioy, thn opoia efere sthn Ejetastikh Epitroph, th systash ths opoias zhthse, h idia h Nea Dhmokratia. Synepws, ayth h ypoqesh ereynatai. Ekeino to opoio eipa, sth deyterh erwthsh poy moy ekane synadelfos sas, einai poly jekaqaro. Kai to epanalambanw. To kwdikopoiw kai isws etsi na ginei pio eykola antilhpto: Prwton, gia dyo mhnes, o ekproswpos toy k. Papandreoy hjere oti yparxei ena DVD ekbiasmoy gnwstoy toy. Den eipe tipote. Deyteron, oxi mono den eipe tipota oloys aytoys toys dyo mhnes, alla kai meta apo thn perasmenh ebdomada, thn Paraskeyh nomizw, poy problhqhke to binteo, h ena meros toy binteo - -to lew giati den eimai se qesh, bebaiws, na gnwrizw an htan olo h oxi- - apo thleoptiko staqmo, o k. Papakwnstantinoy ejakoloyqoyse na siwpa. Triton, molonoti hjere edw kai dyo mhnes gia to binteo, profanws meteixe o idios --koryfaio stelexos toy PASOK einai- - sthn organwsh twn martyrwn, toys opoioys kapoioi sygkekrimenoi, mesa sthn Ejetastikh Epitroph, me kala organwmenes erwthseis, toys odhgoysan pros sygkekrimenes apanthseis. Ayto einai to megalo politiko kai hqiko qema. Dioti, paroti hjere den eipe tipota. Kai oxi mono den eipe tipota, alla to xrhsimopoihse kai politika gia politikoys stoxoys, opws sas eipa. Na plhjei ton Prwqypoyrgo kai thn kybernhsh.

TERZHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, to shmeiwsa sxedon lejh  lejh: Profanws symmeteixe o idios sthn organwsh twn martyrwn klp. Eipate prin apo ena lepto...

ANTWNAROS: Koryfaio stelexos eipa.

TERZHS: An den kanw laqos...

ANTWNAROS: Eikazw.

TERZHS: An den kanw laqos egw h ceydorkia klp, exei kai stoixeia poinikoy adikhmatos. Ayth th stigmh eseis xrewnete ston ekproswpo Typoy toy PASOK oti leitoyrgei ws hqikos aytoyrgos, ayto eipate, ayto ermhneyw egw kai nomizw oti to ermhneyw swsta, mias prospaqeias ceydorkias me stoxo, opws eipate, thn kybernhsh kai ton eklegmeno Prwqypoyrgo. Kai erwtw, efoson proxwrhse h skech sas se ayto to shmeio, pera apo to skeptiko poy mas analysate, se poia pragmatika peristatika edrazete thn apoch sas ayth, ypo thn ennoia oti h pagia grammh ths kybernhshs mexri twra einai pws oti exete, parakalw parapempete ta sth Dikaiosynh. Ayto eipe kai o k. Papakwnstantinoy gia na kanw egw ton synhgoro toy diaboloy edw.

ANTWNAROS: Den einai akribes ayto to opoio lete. Prwton, ston k. Papakwnstantinoy perihlqan stoixeia - -egw na dexqw oti den htan plhrh, ayto menei pros apodeijh- - kapoias paranomhs prajhs. Aytos o opoios plhroforeitai stoixeia mias paranomhs prajhs kai dh gia ekbiasmo, den exei ypoxrewsh na ta paei ston Eisaggelea; Deyteron, o k. Papakwnstantinoy den einai ena opoiodhpote proswpo. Einai ena dhmosio proswpo kai apodeiknyetai sas lew apo th xronikh ejelijh twn gegonotwn oti aytos, o syntopiths toy, o opoios ton eixe enhmerwsei, einai mplegmenos se ayth thn periergh ypoqesh me toys anqrwpoys me tis ypoptes, an mh ti allo, drasthriothtes. Triton, prin apo mia ebdomada ayto to binteo ginetai gnwsto se oloys toys Ellhnes, osoi blepoyn thleorash. Kai parola tayta, pernoyn pente hmeres gia na pei piezomenos o k. Papakwnstantinoy oti to hjere edw kai dyo mhnes. Kai oxi mono ayto. Stis 18 Noembrioy, dhladh prin apo dyo hmeres, mia mera dhladh prin paradexqei oti hjere gia to binteo, thn yparjh toy binteo gia na eimai akribhs, o k. Papakwnstantinoy dinei synenteyjh sto dhmosio radiofwno kai leei oti einai pragmatika entypwsiako ayto poy parakoloyqoyme tis teleytaies dyo hmeres: ``Apo th stigmh poy enas martyras ebale sto stoma toy h sto stoma ths an qelete to onoma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, yparxei mia meqodeymenh prospaqeia apajiwshs, oxi toy sygkekrimenoy martyra, alla synolika toy ergoy ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs''. Anaferetai se emena kai synexizei: ``Apo kei kai pera toso oi martyres oso kai o syzygos, oso kai aytoi oi opoioi ekbiazontai h ferontai na ekbiazontai sta diafora binteo oloi aytoi, isxyrizetai, anhkoyn sto xwro ths Neas Dhmokratias''. Anaferetai, loipon, se binteo prin apo dyo hmeres kai pali den kanei koybenta, kai pali den leei oti hjere thn yparjh toy sygkekrimenoy binteo. Kai oxi mono ayto, prospaqei na taytisei aytos, o k. Papakwnstantinoy, kai diaforoi alloi apo to PASOK ayta ta perierga atoma me to xwro ths Neas Dhmokratias. Mhpws prospaqoyn na rijoyn to ftaijimo sth Nea Dhmokratia giati, opws leei kai o laos mas, exoyn th ``fwlia toys lerwmenh''; Erwtw: Mhpws; As cajoyn na broyn me poioys politikoys sxhmatismoys eixan diasyndeseis orismena apo ayta ta atoma. Ayta, loipon, ola ta opoia isxyrizetai o k. Papakwnstantinoy, apodeiknyoyn ena kai mono pragma: Mia apyqmenh ypokrisia kai mia politikh kakoboylia xwris orio.

MANH: Anejarthtws diasyndesewn poy eixan ayta ta proswpa poy molis eipate ki eseis anaferomenos sth dhlwsh toy k. Papakwnstantinoy, sas problhmatizei to gegonos ayto kaqeayto, oti dhladh einai melh ths Neas Dhmokratias h katebhkan ypochfioi me sxhmatismoys ths Neas Dhmokratias, anejarthtws lew twn diasyndesewn me alloys politikoys xwroys; To oti oi idioi einai melh.

ANTWNAROS: Egw den mporw na apokleisw oti apo tis polles dekades h ekatontades xiliades melwn poy exei h Nea Dhmokratia, yparxoyn kai orismena atoma me ypopth symperifora. Exw pei pote to antiqeto; Alla, ayto den allazei tipote sthn politikh praktikh thn opoia efarmose to PASOK me politikh ysteroboylia kai sto oti twra apodeiknyetai oti to idio to PASOK h koryfaia stelexh toy eixan stenes sxeseis me ayto ton esmo twn anqrwpwn.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mia kai zoyme sthn epoxh twn DVD, qelete na moy peite ti diaforetiko ekane o k. Papakwnstantinoy apo ton k. Adriano otan kai tote sthn ypoqesh Zaxopoyloy enas kapoios komisths phge sto Megaro Majimoy ena DVD kai o k. Adrianos arnhqhke na to dei symfwna me ta legomena sas, kai egw den amfisbhtw ton k. Adriano.

ANTWNAROS: Na freskarw ligo th mnhmh sas: O k. Adrianos to DVD entos tessarwn hmerwn...

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Afoy eixe jespasei...

ANTWNAROS: Entos tessarwn hmerwn - -ek twn opoiwn tis treis eleipe me ton Prwqypoyrgo sth Mosxa, sas ypenqymizw- - to phge ston eisaggelea. O k. Papakwnstantinoy dyo oloklhroys mhnes ekane oti den hjere tipota. Oi Ellhnes polites as sygkrinoyn kai as krinoyn.

TERZHS: Yparxei mia eidopoios diafora, kata thn apoch moy, sthn erwthsh ths k. Kalogeropoyloy, oti o k. Papakwnstantinoy feretai, kata dhlwsh toy  egw den ton kalyptw- - na mhn exei paralabei proion egklhmatos. O k. Adrianos to epraje.

ANTWNAROS: Alla, opws o idios exei paradexqei, eixe gnwsh ths yparjhs toy DVD toy ekbiasmoy.

KAKALHS: To zhtoymeno gia thn kybernhsh apo ayth thn anadeijh ths ekloghs toy ekproswpoy Typoy toy PASOK se ayth thn ypoqesh, poio einai; Na deijei ston ellhniko lao oti to PASOK empleketai sto skandalo ths Monhs Batopaidioy; Afoy einai gnwsto apo thn arxh ayto, oti me apofaseis toy PASOK anoije olh ayth h istoria. H kybernhsh ti qelei na deijei; Ena symchfismo epixeirei shmera;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh den endiaferetai pote gia symchfismoys. Th shmerinh kybernhsh ekeino to opoio thn endiaferei, einai kati poly aplo: Na diereynhqei h ypoqesh ayth se baqos. Kai ayto ginetai kai apo th Dikaiosynh kai apo thn Ejetastikh Epitroph. Kai ypenqymizw, gia mia akomh fora, oti: H shmerinh kybernhsh einai ekeinh, h opoia zhthse apo th Boylh twn Ellhnwn na egkrinei, opws kai egine, th systash ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs. Apo thn allh meria, den mporei kapoios na mhn anadeijei, na mhn paroysiasei ayth thn apyqmenh politikh ypokrisia toy PASOK.

KAKALHS: Ep` aytoy, epeidh eipate oti qelei h kybernhsh na ereynhqei h ypoqesh se baqos, o k. Markogiannakhs oysiastika ekleise xqes thn ypoqesh, legontas oti h ypoqesh ayth exei ereynhqei pros pasa kateyqynsh kai exei dialeykanqei to qema. Ayto to aqwwtiko porisma speydei na bgalei h kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: To porisma ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs qa ekdoqei, opws kala gnwrizete, otan oloklhrwqei h ereyna poy diejagetai apo thn Ejetastikh Epitroph. Kai mh moy metaferete dhlwseis se apospasmata. Oses dhlwseis ginontai, ginontai synolika.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Anarwtiemai, an ayto to hqiko kai politiko qema, to opoio xrewnetai o k. Papakwnstantinoy aggizei, gia na poyme kai ta pragmata me to onoma toys, kai ton Proedro toy PASOK, dedomenoy oti se oles tis ypoloipes ypoqeseis otan h antipoliteysh zhta paraithseis kybernhtikwn stelexwn k.t.l., blepw mia prospaqeia taytishs opoioydhpote kanei otidhpote, an kanei, me to proswpo toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Eseis qewreite oti ayto to hqiko qema aggizei ton k. Papandreoy;

ANTWNAROS: Egw qetw to erwthma. To qetw, de, eyqews: Den hjere tipota o k. Papandreoy; Oyte afoy ekane thn kataqesh ths, h apodedeigmena pia anajiopisth martyras Swthropoyloy kai afoy espeysan stelexh toy PASOK na epixairoyn gia toys isxyrismoys ths; Oyte tote den hjere o k. Papandreoy gia to optikoakoystiko yliko, to DVD toy ekbiasmoy, toy opoioy thn yparjh exei omologhsei oti gnwrize o ekproswpos toy;

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Epeidh h k. Swthropoyloy htan ypochfia me th Nea Dhmokratia gia to Dikhgoriko Syllogo ths Qessalonikhs, eseis aisqaneste amhxana h en pash periptwsei kapws apenanti stoys anqrwpoys oi opoioi eklhqhsan na chfisoyn thn k. Swthropoyloy, gia thn opoia shmera emfanizeste edw kai lete oti einai anajiopisth kai den jerw kai ti allo;

ANTWNAROS: To exw pei polles hmeres ayto. Kai etsi den aisqanomai kaqoloy amhxania apenanti se anqrwpoys, oi opoioi exoyn ypopth symperifora.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Pros ton kosmo an aisqaneste.

ANTWNAROS: Oi ypochfioi twn dikhgorikwn syllogwn, opws gnwrizete, epilegoyn me dika toys krithria toys ypochfioys toys.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kai kati allo, k. Ekproswpe: Mhpws gnwrizete - -telika rwthsate to Megaro Majimoy- - ti apanthse o Prwqypoyrgos sthn epistolh toy k. Cwmiadh;

ANTWNAROS: Qa sas pw: O Prwqypoyrgos, ston opoio koinopoihqhke h epistolh ayth, elabe thn epistolh, h opoia eixe stalei se alloys oktw Ypoyrgoys. Th xeiristhkan oi Ypoyrgoi. Den exw kati allo na sas pw.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe sto prohgoymeno qema. Se antistoixes periptwseis, to PASOK, otan yparjei opoiodhpote problhma zhta amesws apo ton Prwqypoyrgo na apomakrynei Ypoyrgoys, synergates toy, stelexh. Ayth th stigmh, eseis eiste etoimoi na kanete to idio; Dhladh, efoson ypainixqhkate safws oti o k. Papandreoy exei proswpikes eyqynes, den qa prepei sthn periptwsh poy o idios arnhqei kati tetoio, na apomakrynei amesws ton k. Papakwnstantinoy apo th qesh toy ekproswpoy Typoy toy PASOK;

ANTWNAROS: H prwth erwthsh poy teqhke apo ton k. Gkatsio eixe akribws ayto to qema. Exw apanthsei.

TERZHS: Se allo qema. Endexomenws, qa janagyrisoyme sto Batopaidi, sthn poreia. Blepw se oles tis efhmerides shmera kai anarwtiemai an sas prokalese ekplhjh to gegonos oti oloi grafoyn gia eklogikoys tonoys h gia dilhmma eklogwn apo ton Prwqypoyrgo, anaferomenoi sth xqesinh Koinoboyleytikh Omada.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio. Den yparxei qema eklogwn. Exw topoqethqei epaneilhmmena se ayto to qema. Endexomenws, na diabasate kai mia synenteyjh poy edwsa xqes, sto Aqhnaiko Praktoreio Eidhsewn se synadelfo sas kai sthn opoia topoqethqhka me apolyth safhneia.

STAQOPOYLOS: Ektos apo ton k. Papakwnstantinoy, o k. Papistas gnwrizete an synanthqhke kai me alla stelexh toy PASOK;

ANTWNAROS: Ayto den mporw na to gnwrizw. Den mporw na gnwrizw an kai poia alla stelexh toy PASOK hjeran gia to DVD toy ekbiasmoy. Ayto afora to idio to PASOK.

MANH: Ektos apo th synanthsh apo ton k. Papakwnstantinoy me ton epixeirhmatia, ti ennoeite otan milate gia ypoptes diasyndeseis stelexwn toy PASOK me ayto ton esmo twn anqrwpwn. Poioi exoyn diasyndeqei me poioys, peran ayths ths synanthshs;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati perissotero.

MANH: Xrhsimopoihsate treis fores ayth th lejh ``diasyndeseis''. Ti ennoeite;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw kati se osa eipa.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Epeidh gi` ayto to DVD gnwrizan synadelfoi dhmosiografoi apo th Qessalonikh edw kai ena xrono kai arketoi...

ANTWNAROS: Epi dyo mhnes, jerete, leei o k. Papakwnstantinoy oti to hjere.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Oxi. Synadelfoi. Den akoyte. Exete tetoio menos me ton k. Papakwnstantinoy shmera poy den akoyte. Toy ta katalogizete ola.

ANTWNAROS: Kaqoloy. Proswpika moy einai, allwste, sympaqhs.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Lew: Gnwrizete an epeidh - -eseis dhmosiografos eiste- - otan to jerei enas dhmosiografos, to jeroyn oloi oi dhmosiografoi kai en dynamei to jeroyn kai arketoi politikoi, an thn yparjh ayth toy DVD th gnwrizan kai boyleytes h politeytes ths Neas Dhmokratias;

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, eimai Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos kai oxi dhmosiografos. Deyteron, den mporw na dianohqw...

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Den amfibalw.

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. Alla, qelw na sas ypenqymizw ti akribws kanw se ayth thn aiqoysa. Deyteron, den mporw na dianohqw oti dhmosiografoi gnwrizan thn yparjh tetoioy ylikoy kai den ekanan xrhsh. Oso gia to trito poy me rwthsate: Den gnwrizw na exei gnwsh aytoy toy ylikoy opoiodhpote stelexos toy kommatos ths Neas Dhmokratias.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Den moy lete ti eidoys ejagomena ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs, ayths poy exei dhmioyrghqei kai ergazetai aytes tis hmeres, qa einai ayta poy qa bgoyn stis 15 Dekembrioy, peripoy ekei, otan to kaqe komma eishgeitai na erqei enas martyras, o opoios meta apokalyptetai oti einai kati poy xtypa thn ajiopistia toy. Poso ajiopista qa einai ayta ta ejagomena, an o enas martyras meta ton allon kaqistantai anajiopistoi;

ANTWNAROS: Egw qa perimenw thn oloklhrwsh ths ereynas apo thn Ejetastikh Epitroph.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas epibebaiwsete an o monaxos Arsenios htan se anoikth grammh me ton dieyqynth toy Politikoy Grafeioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Aggeloy, opws kateqese xqes o nomikos symboylos ths KEDE sthn Epitroph;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kamia tetoia plhroforhsh ep` aytoy. Den to epibebaiwnw.

KAKALHS: To diaceydete.

MPOTSARHS: Prepei na topoqethqei amesa, akomh kai entos ths hmeras, o k. Papandreoy gia to sygkekrimeno qema;

ANTWNAROS: Ola ayta poy eipa apeyqynontai prwtista sto PASOK.

FANIDHS: Se ena allo qema, k. Ekproswpe. Se dhlwseis toy, o k. Aqanasopoylos eipe oti o k. Fwlias diafwnei mazi moy giati den exei dei akomh to business plan, to opoio brisketai sto grafeio toy. Eipe akomh oti otan to dei to business plan, einai bebaios pws qa symfwnhsei mazi moy. Gnwrizete na mas peite telika, an h kybernhsh qa symfwnhsei h oxi me to epixeirhsiako sxedio toy k. Aqanasopoyloy;

ANTWNAROS: Egw symfwnw apolyta me tis dhmosies dhlwseis toy k. Fwlia.

SWTHRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, se reportaz toy Flash shmera anadeiknyetai ena megalo problhma sto Panepisthmiako Nosokomeio sto Hrakleio ths Krhths, opoy enas giatros einai gia 40 asqeneis kai oi giatroi kai oi nosokomoi trexoyn apo grafeio se grafeio na broyn gazes, enw oi diadromoi einai gematoi me rantza. Exete kapoio sxolio;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw, na apeyqynqeite ston Ypoyrgo Ygeias k. Abramopoylo. Einai ths armodiothtas toy.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Qa moy epitrecete, feygw teleiws apo to prohgoymeno qema, alla einai kati sobaro sto opoio qa hqela na topoqethqeite ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos. Xqes, loipon, synebh ena prwtofanes peristatiko sthn efhmerida sthn opoia ergazomai. Synadelfos dhmosiografos, empeiros kai kalos sth doyleia toy, apolyqhke stis 4:30 to apogeyma dioti, leei, epese qyma klhrwshs. H efhmerida dhladh, h etairia poy th stegazei, as poyme, exei thn taktikh na kanei mia klhrwsh to xrono kai na diwxnei enan gia eji mhnes, epeidh den ths to epitrepoyn ta oikonomika ths kai meta na ton janafernei, an aytos den exei doyleia, se eji mhnes pisw. Den qelw na moy peite poia einai ta synaisqhmata sas gi` ayto. Qelw na moy peite an ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, alla kai ws prwhn synadelfos - -mpainw ston peirasmo na to pw -- katanoeite ayton to logo. Den yphrxe logos kakhs leitoyrgias toy synadelfoy.

ANTWNAROS: Den katanow se kamia periptwsh na menei kapoios dhmosiografos, na menei opoiosdhpote anqrwpos xwris doyleia.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Meta apo klhrwsh, to tonizw.

ANTWNAROS: Tis pragmatikes synqhkes den mporw na tis gnwrizw. Den amfisbhtw ayto poy moy lete, alla shmasia exei to apotelesma, to opoio einai dysaresto. Kaqe anqrwpos poy xanei th doyleia toy, brisketai se mia dyskolh proswpikh kai koinwnikh qesh. Kai ayto san anqrwpos, apo thn anqrwpinh pleyra qa moy epitrecete na pw, to briskw idiaitera dysaresto kai stenoxwro.

TSIOYFOS: Qa moy epitrecete na gyrisw sthn erwthsh poy ekane prin apo ligo o synadelfos. Moy ekane entypwsh oti mia kataqesh enos fantazomai qa qewreite kai eseis, ajiopisto martyra ton nomiko symboylo ths (den akoygetai), prospaqhsate na thn prosperasete, legontas oti den gnwrizete gia th sxesh thn opoia kathggeile. Antiqeta gia th sxesh toy k. Papakwnstantinoy jerate para polla. Gia poio logo den frontisate na plhroforhqeite an ontws stekei h kataqesh toy nomikoy symboyloy...

ANTWNAROS: Oxi, den eipa ayto. Eipa oti den yparxei tetoia sxesh, opws ayth poy isxyrizetai o martys.

TSIOYFOS: Giati den plhroforhqhkate an h kataqesh, an ta osa eipe o nomikos symboylos ths (den akoygetai) sthn Ejetastikh, exoyn bash h den exoyn;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa. Isxyei h apanthsh moy. Deite olh thn apanthsh. Eixe dyo skelh.

TSIOYFOS: Eipate ``den exw kamia tetoia plhroforhsh''.

ANTWNAROS: Kai ti eipa meta; Eipa kai deyterh frash. To ``den exw kamia plhroforhsh'', shmainei oti den epibebaiwnw ayto to opoio eipe o martys. Gi` ayto kai to epejhghsa amesws.

KAPRALOS: Hqela na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh symmerizetai thn anhsyxia ths Trapezas ths Ellados gia thn poreia ths oikonomias h opoia, symfwna me shmerina dhmosieymata, zhta thn efarmogh polyetoys programmatos anasyntajhs, opws leei, kai an h Kybernhsh ejetazei akoma kai allages sto sxedio gia thn enisxysh ths reystothtas, kaqws kai symfwna me tis probleceis ths Trapezas ths Ellados, ta 28 dis den qa einai arketa.

ANTWNAROS: Katarxas, moy zhtate na sxoliasw dhmosieyma mias efhmeridas. Den prokeitai na to kanw. Deyteron : To sxedio chfizetai shmera apo thn Boylh. Einai oloklhrwmeno, einai oysiastiko, einai apotelesmatiko. To paroysiase xqes se adres grammes alla me poly katanohto tropo, gia mia akomh fora, o Prwqypoyrgos sthn Boylh. Einai sxedio gia th sthrijh ths ellhnikhs oikonomias kai etsi qa leitoyrghsei.

MPOTSARHS: Xqes milwntas se radiofwnikh ekpomph, o k. Abramopoylos eperrice oles tis eyqynes ston k. Alogoskoyfh kai epishs tonise oti episkefthke kai to Grafeio toy Prwqypoyrgoy, epeshmane ta problhmata, alla den toy dinoyn xrhmata.

ANTWNAROS: Asfalws gnwrizete oti exei ekdoqei anakoinwsh Typoy toy Ypoyrgeioy Ygeias kai Koinwnikhs Allhleggyhs, apo ton k. Abramopoylo xqes to apogeyma stis 19:05, me titlo malista ``Doqhke lysh sto qema twn ofeilwn''. Sas parapempw se ayth thn anakoinwsh.

MPOTSARHS: Den milhsa mono gia tis ofeiles. Milame gia tis terasties elleiceis, ayta poy anefere synadelfos, se ylikotexnikh ypodomh, se proswpiko kata kyrio logo. Edw blepoyme oti sta Trikala spane ta krebatia kai peftoyn katw oi asqeneis.

ANTWNAROS: Se ola ayta ta qemata anaferetai o k. Abramopoylos. Parakalw na diabasete thn anakoinwsh.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kata th gnwmh sas qa eprepe na doqoyn sthn Ejetastikh Epitroph ta stoixeia apo toys logariasmoys toy Hgoymenoy Efraim kai toy monaxoy Arsenioy;

ANTWNAROS: Ayta aforoyn, opws jerete, thn Ejetastikh Epitroph kai th leitoyrgia allwn Arxwn toy ellhnikoy Dhmosioy. Den prokeitai na sxoliasw.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kata th gnwmh sas einai sobara stoixeia, wstoso;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na sxoliasw th leitoyrgia, ayth kaqayth, ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs. Egw topoqetoymai politika.

TERZHS: Na gyrisw ligo sto qema me thn katastash sthn Ygeia, na sas rwthsw to ejhs: An krinete ws ikanopoihtiko ton tropo leitoyrgias ths Kybernhshs, otan enas Ypoyrgos, opoios Ypoyrgos, dhlwnei dhmosia oti anagkazetai na kanei parastash ston allo Ypoyrgo kai na enhmerwnei ton proistameno toys poy einai o Prwqypoyrgos, prokeimenoy na prowqhqei mia opoia lysh.

ANTWNAROS: Se mia dyskolh dieqnh oikonomikh sygkyria, einai fysiko oi Ypoyrgoi na epikoinwnoyn taktika me ton Ypoyrgo Oikonomias, prokeimenoy na ryqmistoyn diafora qemata xrhmatodothshs toy tomea toys. Sas epanalambanw - -kai to jerete- - oti ta xrhmata ta opoia diaqetei to ellhniko Dhmosio den einai aperiorista.

KAKALHS: O Prwqypoyrgos xqes eipe oti aytos poy kerdizei thn empistosynh toy kosmoy, einai aytos poy bgazei th xwra me asfaleia apo thn krish. Pws perimenete na kerdisete thn empistosynh toy kosmoy, afoy toys monoys poy bgazete me asfaleia apo thn krish einai toys trapezites;

ANTWNAROS: Einai h synhqhs erwthsh sas. Sas exw apanthsei. Me asfaleia qa bgoyn apo thn krish h xwra, h koinwnia, oloi oi Ellhnes polites.

Sas eyxaristw.


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