Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-10-15

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 15 Oktwbrioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 100946760

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 15 Oktwbrioy 2007

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

Ayrio stis 11:00, qa synedriasei sto Megaro Majimoy h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, me qemata poy aforoyn sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

GKOYTZANHS: (Den akoygetai).

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa sas pw ayrio.

KAKALHS: Mhpws jerei h kybernhsh apo poy qa kalycoyn oi misqwtoi kai oi syntajioyxoi thn ayjhsh kata 20% toy petrelaioy qermanshs h kata 500 eyrw, opws ypologizetai, to xrono gia to kaqe noikokyrio; Mhpws apo tis gennaies ayjhseis poy eixe dwsei nwritera stis syntajeis kai toys misqoys;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn diafores ektimhseis gia tis times tis opoies diabasa ki egw. Ekeino poy qelw na sas pw einai oti se o,ti afora tis times: Yparxei dieqnws ayjhsh ths timhs toy petrelaioy, logw -opws gnwrizete- ths anodikhs poreias toy petrelaioy sth dieqnh agora. Ayto poy ofeilei na kanei h ellhnikh Politeia -kai ayto prattei kai qa synexisei na to prattei- einai oi ekteneis elegxoi sthn agora. Kai otan diapistwnetai oti yparxoyn parabates, na timwroyntai, na parapempontai ston Eisaggelea. Exoyn ekdoqei parallhlws odhgies pros toys katanalwtes apo to Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs gia to ti prepei na prosexoyn.

KAKALHS: Mono elegxoys qa kanete; Epidoma qermanshs den ofeilete na dwsete gia na prostateysete toys oikonomika asqenesteroys;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw na pw tipote perissotero.

GKOYTZANHS: Na mhn sas rwthsw tote an qa syzhthqei to Skopiano;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa sas pw ayrio.

GKOYTZANHS: TI qa ginei me thn ayjhsh toy FPA; Skopeyei h kybernhsh na ayjhsei... ;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ekane dhlwsh prin apo ligo o k. Alogoskoyfhs...

GKOYTZANHS: Den thn exw ypoch moy...

ROYSOPOYLOS: ... ejw apo to Megaro Majimoy. Opote kalyptei to qema. Qa enhmerwqeite syntoma.

ROYMELIWTHS: Qa syzhthqei kai an o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei thn Kwnstantinoypolh, gia ton agwgo, stis 28 toy mhna;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw kati neotero gi` ayto to qema.

ARMENHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ti doyleia exoyn Ypoyrgoi h boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias na emplekontai stis opoies kinhseis h diergasies mporei na ginontai paraskhniaka kai exoyn sxesh me th diadoxh sthn Arxiepiskoph;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den mporw na milhsw ej onomatos boyleytwn h Ypoyrgwn. Se kaqe periptwsh, ayta grafontai se diafora dhmosieymata, den shmainei oti symbainoyn kiolas. Ekeino poy qelw na pw egw, me aformh thn erwthsh sas, einai oti yparxei Arxiepiskopos kai toy eyxomaste oloi na ginei syntoma kala kai na gyrisei konta mas. Kai qelw na shmeiwsw, epishs, oti opoiadhpote syzhthsh einai adokimh kai akairh. Allwste, den einai qema ths kybernhshs. As afhsoyme ta ths Ekklhsias, sthn Ekklhsia.

ROYMELIWTHS: Yparxei skech na jekinhsei o Prwqypoyrgos amesa ena kyklo epafwn, synanthsewn me toys boyleytes ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos, kata kairoys, synantatai me diaforoys boyleytes kai sthn prohgoymenh qhteia toy kai twra. Den exw omws kati sygkekrimeno na sas pw. Otan yparxei synanthsh, anakoinwnetai nwritera.

KAKALHS: Poio einai to mhnyma poy stelnei h kybernhsh thn wra poy jekinaei o dialogos gia to Asfalistiko, me thn paratash ths tropologias gia toys megaloofeiletes toy IKA; Mhpws me ayto ton tropo enisxyete thn eisforodiafygh kai tis xaristikes ryqmiseis; Giati exoyn ginei treis ryqmiseis mesa se 3,5 xronia, alla ta xreh pros to IKA exoyn ayjhqei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Xairomai poy diatypwsate swsta, toylaxiston ws pros to qema ths paratashs, giati akoyw, diabazw diafora ta opoia einai teleiws makran ths pragmatikothtas. Ontws, prokeitai peri paratasews. Dhladh mia ryqmish poy isxyei, parateinetai gia ena mikro xroniko diasthma, etsi wste na prolaboyn aytoi oi opoioi ofeiloyn, na plhrwsoyn ta xrhmata poy ofeiloyn.

KAKALHS: Giati (ektos mikrofwnoy)...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia diaforoys logoys. Den mporw na to jerw. Alla, milame gia epixeirhseis, mikres, mesaies epixeirhseis, kyriws, poy apasxoloyn ergazomenoys. To IKA ekeino poy kanei, einai oti deixnei mia anoxh otan apasxoloyntai ergazomenoi. Kai oi ergazomenoi aytoi, opws oloi, exoyn anagkh th doyleia toys, sthn kaqhmerinothta toys gia na zhsoyn. Deixnei mia mikrh anoxh, gi` ayto kai exoyn ginei aytes oi ryqmiseis. Alliws, den yparxei kapoia allh diaqesh. H anoxh, h opoia anoxh exei yparjei mexri twra kai se aytes tis ryqmiseis, einai kyriws gia na mhn odhghqoyn epixeirhseis sto kleisimo, gia na mh breqoyn ergazomenoi sto dromo. Den shmainei bebaiws oti ayto prepei na ginetai synhqeia apo kapoioys. Nomizw oti qa symfwnhsoyme se ayto oloi. Kai ekei einai poy prospaqei kai to IKA kai opoio allo Tameio  kyriws to IKA- na elegjoyn thn eisforodiafygh.

GKOYTZANHS: Mias kai eimaste sto IKA, mhpws skopeyei h kybernhsh na dwsei sto IKA ekeina poy toy ofeilei, me bash thn trimerh xrhmatodothsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi ofeiles prepei na doqoyn kai qa doqoyn se mia logikh enisxyshs toy systhmatos, etsi opws mporei na antlhsei xrhmata, oxi h kybernhsh apo idia kondylia, bebaia, alla apo thn eqnikh oikonomia. Gnwrizete oti h eqnikh oikonomia exei mia seira apo sysswreymena problhmata poy antimetwpisame apo to parelqon. Ginetai prospaqeia. Exoyme skycei me poly endiaferon panw sto qema kai me eyaisqhsia. Me thn idia eyaisqhsia qa skycoyme kai sto qema toy Asfalistikoy synolikotera.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, poio einai to mhnyma poy stelnei h kybernhsh apenanti se boyleytes poy exoyn ekfrasei dhmosiws th dysareskeia toys h kai th diaforopoihsh toys gia diafora zhthmata, opws gia to Asfalistiko h opws o k. Tsiartsiwnhs gia to qema ths DEH;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti ennoeite; Na yparxei, dhladh, antiparaqesh mhnymatwn metajy boyleytwn kai kybernhshs, kybernhtikwn stelexwn; Oi boyleytes einai kybernhtika stelexh oytws h allws ths kybernhtikhs paratajhs. Apo kei kai pera, o kaqe boyleyths exei thn eleyqeria ths kinhshs toy, toy logoy toy, ths drashs toy, sthn perifereia toy kai genikotera. Oloi -eimai bebaios- synaisqanontai thn eyqynh h opoia aporreei apo to gegonos oti mia kybernhsh ejelegh prin apo ena mhna kai anelabe na lysei problhmata ta opoia den prolabe na lysei sthn prohgoymenh qhteia ths. Kai eimai bebaios oti pros ayth thn kateyqynsh sthrizoyn oloi oi boyleytes. Apedeixqh allwste. Den tiqetai kapoio qema. Nomizw oti se orismenes periptwseis, didetai yperbolikh diastash.

KAKALHS: Eipate oti h kybernhsh qa antapokriqei opws mporei gia tis ypoxrewseis ths apenanti sto IKA. Dhladh, den qa efarmosei mexri keraias, na to pw etsi, th nomoqetikh ths ypoxrewsh gia na apodwsei to 1% toy AEP; Giati kai ston Proypologismo...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayth einai h proqesh kai h prospaqeia. Gnwrizete poly kala oti ayth einai h proqesh. To exoyme pei polles fores. Kai ayth einai kai h prospaqeia.

KAKALHS: Ston Proypologismo omws (den akoygetai)...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se oloys toys tomeis, h proqesh ths kybernhshs exei apotypwqei me jekaqaro logo kai proeklogika kai meteklogika stis programmatikes dhlwseis.

GKOYTZANHS: Ayto einai ypoxrewsh k. Ekproswpe, basei toy nomoy. Den exei na kanei me thn proqesh kai thn prospaqeia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Bebaiws, symfwnoyme, giati to eipa kai prohgoymenws. Exei na kanei sigoyra me thn eqnikh mas oikonomia, me tis dynatothtes ths, me toys poroys poy mporei na antlhsei kapoios. Ginetai, loipon, mia prospaqeia  kai synexizetai ayth h prospaqeia- ejygianshs twn dhmosiwn oikonomikwn. To gnwrizete. Panw se ayto exoyme doylecei epi triamisi xronia kai synexizoyme na doyleyoyme. Mia prospaqeia enisxyshs toy koinwnikoy kratoys. Gi` ayto kai kanoyme o,ti einai aparaithto gia na enisxysoyme to koinwniko kratos.

GKOYTZANHS: Alla, twra einai san na mas lete oti h thrhsh twn ypoxrewsewn ths kybernhshs basei toy nomoy ejartatai apo thn poreia ths oikonomias.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa moy epitrecete na diorqwsw oti den omiloyme peri thrhshs ypoxrewsewn mias kybernhshs, opoiasdhpote kybernhshs, alla ths idias ths Politeias. H Politeia ayth th stigmh kybernatai apo mia kybernhsh, opws h Nea Dhmokratia h xqes apo to PASOK k.o.k. H Politeia h idia ofeilei na threi toys nomoys ths. Ean epi seira etwn eixame abelthria kai swreyqhkan xreh, to idio den synebh kai sthn Topikh Aytodioikhsh; Einai adynaton mia kybernhsh mesa se tria-triamisi xronia na lysei ola ayta ta opoia swreyqhkan kai na apodwsei ta toy Kaisaros toy Kaisari. Den amfisbhtei kaneis oti prepei na apodoqoyn ayta ta xrhmata, oyte parakratwntai gia kapoies alles skopimothtes. Einai, omws, shmantiko oti epi seira etwn, epi panw apo 10 xronia, sysswreyqhkan xreh stoys tomeis poy anaferame prohgoymenws. Megala xreh. Den yphrjan oi elegxoi poy eprepe na yparjoyn. Kai erxetai mia kybernhsh na antimetwpisei ena apo ta megala xreh. Makari na mporoysan na eixan lyqei nwritera. Den lynontai omws.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Poia einai h apoch ths kybernhshs gia apoceis opws oti ``kamia koinwnia den mporei na eyhmerei an yparxoyn anisothtes''; Epishs, oti ``se mia xwra poy ayjanei ton ployto ths qa prepei na kaqierwqei elaxisto eggyhmeno eisodhma''; Kai gia na sas prolabw, ayta den einai apoceis kapoioy hgeth kommatos ths Aristeras, alla einai oi apoceis, opws katateqhkan prin ligo apo ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai sebastes oi apoceis toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. To exw pei kai to ennow.

KAKALHS: O k. Alogoskoyfhs se kyriakatikh synenteyjh toy eipe oti pilotos gia to Asfalistiko einai to nomosxedio poy katateqhke gia to Asfalistiko twn trapezoypallhlwn. Symfwna me ayto to nomosxedio, yphrjan ayjhseis sta oria hlikias mexri epta eth kai stis gynaikes malista ergazomenes mexri kai 15 eth kai meiwseis se syntajeis mexri 40%. Dhladh, pame gia anatroph asfalistikwn dikaiwmatwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exoyme pei ti den qa ginei, exoyme pei ti qa ginei, me th megalyterh dynath safhneia. Exoyme afhsei anoikto to plaisio ths syzhthshs etsi wste na katateqoyn apoceis. Ean qelete na gyrisoyme pisw sto 2005 otan syzhthqhke to Asfalistiko twn trapezwn, nomizw oti oyte eseis qa symfwnhsete oti einai logiko enas ergazomenos na teleiwnei sta 38 toy kai na pairnei syntajh. Alla, einai ena qema poy to ejantlhsame tote. Perasan dyo xronia ektote.

GKOYTZANHS: Na milhsoyme gia ena qema poy den exei ejantlhqei; Fysika gi` ayto den diafwnei kaneis, einai ta aytonohta. Exete pei ti den ayjanetai. Den ayjanontai oi eisfores, den meiwnontai oi syntajimes apodoxes, den ayjanetai o xronos hlikias. Milate, omws, me safhneia gia sygxwneyseis Tameiwn. Ekei, ti qa ginei; Pws qa prokycoyn oi kainoyrgies syntajeis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oti qa ginoyn sygxwneyseis, qa ginoyn. Exoyme, ayth th stigmh, 175 Tameia. Qa ginoyn sygxwneyseis. H kybernhsh protiqetai na mpei sto dialogo, akoygontas tis apoceis olwn. H protash ths kybernhshs qa katateqei epishmws apo ton armodio ypoyrgo. Thn exei pei, hdh, stis programmatikes dhlwseis, ean tis diabasate. Qa akoysoyme kai tis apoceis twn forewn kai qa proxwrhsoyme. Alla oti prepei na ginoyn sygxwneyseis, einai aytonohto.

GKOYTZANHS: Sygxwneyseis, omws, shmainei kai meiwsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti ennoeite ``meiwsh''; Meiwsh toy ariqmoy twn Tameiwn.

GKOYTZANHS: Oxi. Yparxoyn kala Tameia poy exoyn syntajimes apodoxes ychles, yparxoyn kai ligotera kala. Pws qa breqei ekei; Qa ginei ayjhsh olwn twn dedomenwn gia ta ligotero kala Tameia h qa ginei meiwsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Perigrafete mia pragmatikothta. To Asfalistiko den einai kaqoloy eykolo zhthma, den einai kaqoloy eykolo problhma. To epejergazomaste epi tria-triamisi xronia, akoygontas apoceis. Anoigei epishmws pia o dialogos. Tote htan apoceis mesa sto plaisio ths OKE, opws qymaste. Lambanontai ypoch oles oi eishghseis kai qa breqoyn oi lyseis ekeines poy qa einai oi kalyteres dynates. To bebaio einai oti to Asfalistiko xreiazetai, ayth th stigmh, na allajei etsi wste na enisxyqei, na isxyropoihqei. Htan xarakthristikh h frash thn opoia xrhsimopoihse o k. Magginas sth Boylh. Sas kalw na janadiabasete thn omilia toy, efoson qelete na asxolhqeite perissotero me to qema gia to ti prepei na doylecoyme shmera gia tis genies twn 20arhdwn, 30arhdwn, etsi wste ta Tameia na einai isxyra otan aytes oi genies qa bgoyn sth syntajh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Otan lete ``sygxwneyseis'' k. Ypoyrge, shmainei oti polla apo ayta ta Tameia qa mpoyn sto IKA, apo o,ti plhroforoymai, shmainei oti to IKA exei tis dynatothtes na dexqei alla Tameia stoys kolpoys toy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi dynatothtes dhmioyrgoyntai kai dieyrynontai. Ekeino poy h kybernhsh qa frontisei na kanei, einai na dhmioyrghsei tis dynatothtes h asfalish na enisxyqei anti na aporyqmistei. Kai ayto einai ypoxrewsh ths kaqe kybernhshs poy sebetai ton eayto ths. Eipa kai tis proalles poy syzhthsame, oti to qema toy Asfalistikoy einai ena zwntano qema. Kaqe xwra ana ton kosmo to antimetwpizei, ana xronika diasthmata 15etias, 20etias. Parhlqan peripoy15 xronia apo thn teleytaia fora poy eginan kapoies ryqmiseis gia to Asfalistiko. Bazw elaxista, xwris na meiwsw thn opoiadhpote ajia, giati telika eixe balei poly nero sto krasi ths h prohgoymenh kybernhsh. Eixe allajei poly ta pragmata se sxesh me tis arxikes ths qeseis kai tis allages poy eginan to 2001. Gi` ayto sthn koybenta mas milhsa gia 15etia.

SPYRAKH: Epi twn sygxwneysewn, k. Ekproswpe, qelw na rwthsw kati poly eidiko: H kybernhsh jekina th syzhthsh apo mhdenikh bash h qewrei pws einai pros efarmogh o nomos poy chfisthke apo ton k. Reppa;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na mhn mpw se alles leptomereies. Hdh, eipwqhkan kapoia pragmata ta opoia nomizw sas dinoyn ena klima. Ekeino poy qa hqela einai na afhsoyme na arxisei h syzhthsh sthn Epitroph ths Boylhs. Na thn parakoloyqhsoyme oloi mazi, na akoysoyme tis protaseis, tis apoceis, me thn eleyqeria poy diakrinei thn kaqe pleyra. Kai sth synexeia, otan bgainoyn ta prwta symperasmata na ta syzhtoyme kai edw sto press-room.

ROYMELIWTHS: Wstoso, symfwna me ta protypa ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, ayta ta 175 Tameia, otan milame gia sygxwneyseis, prepei na ginoyn 10 h akomh ligotera. Sta idia protypa qa ginoyn kai oi sygxwneyseis sth xwra mas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Isxyei h apanthsh poy edwsa sthn k. Spyrakh.

TSIOYFOS: Xqes, h ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, se synenteyjh ths sthn ``Kaqhmerinh'' taxqhke eyqews yper ths ejeyreshs lyshs sthn kateyqynsh ths synqeths onomasias se o,ti afora to qema twn Skopiwn. Taytoxrona, sth Qessalonikh kapoioi boyleytes toy kommatos sas, alla metajy aytwn kai melos ths kybernhshs, o k. Iwannidhs, taxqhkan yper ths askhshs beto. Fobatai, anhsyxei h kybernhsh oti otan to qema ftasei me ton opoiodhpote tropo sto Koinoboylio, endexomenws ekei na dhmioyrghqoyn problhmata se o,ti afora th synoxh ths kybernhshs, ths koinoboyleytikhs pleiochfias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh exei mia qesh, h opoia exei diatypwqei epaneilhmmenws kai apo ton Prwqypoyrgo kai apo thn ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn. Se ayth th qesh qa meinoyme. Einai h qesh h opoia anagnwsthke kai stis programmatikes dhlwseis kai me bash thn opoia h kybernhsh phre chfo empistosynhs apo oloys toys boyleytes.

SPYRAKH: Qelw na pw kati, gia na mhn adikoyme ton k. Iwannidh (den akoygetai)

ROYSOPOYLOS: Entajei.

KAKALHS: Ep` aytoy hqela na rwthsw. H kybernhsh exei sygkekrimenh protash, oson afora th synqeth onomasia; Poia einai ayth h protash;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas qymizw oti h kybernhsh prin apo peripoy dyomisi-tria xronia, me aformh thn tote protash Nimits, eixe pei poio einai to orio ths.

KAKALHS: Eixe apodexqei ws bash syzhthshs to ``Dhmokratia ths Makedonias-Skopia'', alla den exei pei omws sygkekrimenh protash.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exoyme apodexqei ws bash syzhthshs mia protash poy ekane tote o k. Nimits. Einai sto xeri ths allhs pleyras na pei tis dikes ths apoceis.

GKOYTZANHS: H kybernhsh skopeyei mhpws na analabei kapoia prwtoboylia sto qema ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Prwtoboylia peraiterw;

GKOYTZANHS: Nai.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Metexoyme sto dialogo poy ginetai sto plaisio toy OHE.

GALIATSATOS: Yparxei mia apofash symboylioy politikwn arxhgwn apo to 1993 nomizw, h opoia einai kata opoioydhpote onomatos me to synqetiko ``Makedonia'' mesa. Poso desmeytikh einai ayth gia thn kybernhsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Isxyei h apanthsh poy eixa dwsei tote. Den qa th qymaste oyte eseis. Giati otan rwthqhka, syzhthsame poly entona kai diejodika to qema me aformh thn protash Nimits. Qa moy epitrecete na meinw se ayta kai na mhn proxwrhsw.

GALIATSATOS: Mporeite na mas ypenqymisete thn apanthsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa th steilw to apogeyma sto grafeio sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, otan milame gia to Skopiano h en pash periptwsei gia to Kypriako ayta apoteloyn eqnika zhthmata. Dierwtwmai yparxei eqnikh synainesh epi toy qematos sto Skopiano ayth thn wra, giati ayto zhtaei kai h k. Mpakogiannh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Emeis zhtoyme thn eqnikh synainesh kai gnwrizoyn ola ta kommata oti einai eqniko qema.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Yparxei eqnikh synainesh; (den akoygetai)

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa apanthsw egw sto an yparxei h den yparxei. Eimai bebaios, omws, oti ola ta kommata antimetwpizoyn me sobarothta ta eqnika qemata opws ayto.

SPYRAKH: Sas eteqh ena erwthma to opoio den apanthsate kai aplws epanerxomai an moy epitrepete. H kybernhsh protiqetai na kataqesei dikh ths protash meta thn epideijh adiallajias...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw na prosqesw tipota allo gia ayto to qema.

PALAIOLOGOS: Mia proswpikh erwthsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Proswpikh gia mena;

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, gia esas.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den apantw se proswpikes erwthseis.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den einai proswpikh me thn ennoia, tote den exei na kanei me ta idiwtika sas. Exei na kanei me th synanthsh poy eixate prosfata me ton k. Arh Sphliwtopoylo. Pros ti egine ayth h synanthsh kai an egine sto plaisio opws grafthke...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den einai kaqoloy proswpiko ayto poy rwtate. Me rwtate, dhladh, giati synergazontai dyo Ypoyrgoi metajy toys h giati synantwntai. Yparxei kati periergo;

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi, moy kanei entypwsh. Egw rwthsa, giati sta dhmosieymata grafthke ws eidhsh oti egine sto plaisio ths prospaqeias enisxyshs ths synoxhs ths kybernhshs. Isxyei kati tetoio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh brisketai se synoxh apo thn prwth mera ths orkwmosias ths.

KAKALHS: Den akoysa prohgoymenws, den to shmeiwsa, mporeite na epanalabete shmera th diabebaiwsh poy eixe dwsei o Prwqypoyrgos prin apo mia bdomada oti den einai stoys sxediasmoys ths kybernhshs h ayjhsh toy FPA ta epomena dyo, tria xronia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eipa oti apanthse o k. Alogoskoyfhs gia to qema, ejw apo to Megaro Majimoy.

KAKALHS: Se ayto den apanthse. An eseis mporeite na epanalabete th diabebaiwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy oti se dyo, tria xronia qa ginei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Rwthqhke o k. Alogoskoyfhs gia to FPA. Exei dwsei loipon apanthsh h opoia einai safhs.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: An epitrepete, pantws o k. Alogoskoyfhs eipe oti den yparxoyn neotera gia th forologikh politikh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Isxyei oti eipe o k. Alogoskoyfhs.

SPYRAKH: Dhladh h kybernhsh pws antimetwpizei tis plhrofories poy thn emfanizoyn etoimh na ayjhsei to FPA kata dyo monades mexri to telos toy Noembrioy; O Noembrios einai ayrio.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Isxyei o,ti eipe o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe to qetw se ayth thn aiqoysa epeidh palaiotera panhgyrika mas eixate pei oti ena apo ta epiteygmata ayths ths kybernhshs einai oti ejafanise ta rantza apo toys diadromoys. Tis teleytaies hmeres yparxoyn dhmosieymata h kai sygkekrimeno dhmosieyma, sthn efhmerida ``TO PRWTO QEMA'', poy edeixne rantza stoys diadromoys kai malista sto Nosokomeio Paidwn ``AGLAIA KYRIAKOY''. Exete na peite twra kati;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To diabasa ki egw. Rwthsa, malista, sthn prwinh syskech toy Zappeioy ton ekproswpo toy Ypoyrgeioy o opoios me enhmerwse oti parathreitai to fainomeno se efhmeries na yparxoyn orismena rantza  malista sthn teleytaia efhmeria htan tria ton ariqmo, opws moy eipe- ta opoia ews thn epomenh to meshmeri den yparxoyn, dioti exoyn metaferqei sta dwmatia ta paidia asqeneis. En tw metajy exoyn ekdoqei ejithria, exoyn breqei qeseis. To problhma ayto, opws me diabebaiwse to Ypoyrgeio parathreitai mono stis periptwseis twn efhmeriwn kai se poly mikro ariqmo. Ayth einai h apanthsh poy exw apo to armodio Ypoyrgeio.

GKOYTZANHS: Kai an moy epitrepete telika yphrxe kai allo dhmosieyma, htan thleoptikoy staqmoy, poy elege oti yparxei problhma me ta neogna logw toy oti exei kleisei mia pteryga sto ``ALEJANDRA''.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den to gnwrizw ayto, alla mporw na enhmerwqw. Qa elega oti einai ena eyaisqhto qema idiaiteroy endiaferontos, gia oloys mas. Isws to armodio Ypoyrgeio na dwsei mia apanthsh analytikoterh ayths poy sas edwsa egw kai gia to qema poy anaferate twra.

GKATSIOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, me thn adeia sas, qelw na erqw se ena qema poy mas apasxolhse prin apo dyo mhnes peripoy. Milaw gia to pronoiako epidoma twn 3.000 eyrw. Mas enhmerwnate sto Zappeio kaqhmerina tote kai legate oti yphrxan anqrwpoi poy espeysan na paroyn ayto to epidoma xwris na to dikaioyntai. Yparxoyn stoixeia gia to posoi telika phran ayto to epidoma xwris na to dikaioyntai kai an epestrafh to poso olo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai pleon twn xiliwn - den exw proxeiro ton ariqmo, dystyxws, mazi moy- aytoi oi opoioi epestrecan to epidoma. Sthn teleytaia enhmerwsh poy eixa pro dekapenqhmeroy peripoy, htan pleon twn xiliwn osoi epestrecan to epidoma twn 3.000 eyrw, dhlwnontas oti ek paradromhs to phran, enw den to dikaioynto.

TSIOYFOS: Milhsate prohgoymenws gia to qema twn Skopiwn, oti h kybernhsh qa anazhthsei kai qa epidiwjei thn eqnikh synainesh. Ayth th synainesh endexetai h kybernhsh na thn epidiwjei mesa kai apo kapoio dhmochfisma; Giati yphrxan kai tetoia dhmosieymata xqes, ap oti qa eidate kai eseis.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den tiqetai tetoio qema. Den gnwrizw kati tetoio.

Sas eyxaristw.

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