Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-06-07

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

GENIKH GRAMMATEIA ENHMERWSHS

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Pempth, 7 Ioynioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 77413874

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 7 Ioynioy 2007

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs, ayrio Paraskeyh 8 Ioynioy, stis 12.00, qa synanthqei sto Proedriko Megaro me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias k. Karolo Papoylia.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na sas rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh exei kapoio sxolio sxetika me thn teleytaia ejelijh se sxesh me th diadikasia ths epanagoras toy omologoy. Gia na katagrafei, anaferw oti h JP MORGAN apanthse oti den prokeitai na kanei nea prosfora sta Tameia. Dedomenoy oti ta Tameia antiproteinan sthn trapeza thn epanagora toy omologoy me epiprosqeto kostos gia thn trapeza to poso poy antistoixei stoys tokoys toy kefalaioy ean aytoi htan katateqeimenoi sthn Trapeza ths Elladas. Qelw ena sxolio apo thn kybernhsh, dedomenoy oti melh twn dioikhsewn twn Tameiwn, dhlwnoyn oti h kybernhsh toys exei afhsei jekremastoys.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei h dhlwsh thn opoia ekane o Ypoyrgos Apasxolhshs k. Basilhs Magginas, thn perasmenh Trith, proxqes molis. Eipe oti pisteyei pws oi dioikhseis twn Tameiwn, pera apo skopimothtes, qa paroyn tis swstes apofaseis me apokleistiko stoxo thn proaspish twn symferontwn twn asfalismenwn toys.

NASOPOYLOS: Ep` aytoy. H kybernhsh systhnei eyqews sta Tameia na paroyn atokws, na epistrecoyn atokws to omologo;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh topoqeteitai me ton tropo poy sas eipa.

NASOPOYLOS: Nai, desmeythke oti den qa teqei qema apistias gia ta melh twn dioikhtikwn symboyliwn;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh topoqeteitai me ton tropo poy sas eipa.

KAKALHS: O tropos aytos metakyleiei tis eyqynes stis diorismenes dioikhseis twn Tameiwn. Ta Tameia parolo osa, einai diorismena, den einai eklegmena.

ANTWNAROS: Ejakoloyqeite, bebaiws, na lete mesa s` aythn thn aiqoysa kati to opoio exoyme dieykrinisei kat` epanalhch. Prwton, ta Tameia leitoyrgoyn anejarthta. Pairnoyn tis apofaseis toys, opws leei kai o nomos. Anejarthta. Deyteron, oi dioikhseis twn Tameiwn, kata to megalytero pososto, apoteloyntai apo atoma ta opoia den ypodeiknyei, den diorizei h kybernhsh.

KAKALHS: Den einai qema posostoy, einai qema oysias.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

KAKALHS: Nai kai ta proedreia einai diorismena apo thn kybernhsh kai ayta pairnoyn tis apofaseis.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

MELIGKWNHS: Dedomenoy oti eixate desmeytei ws kybernhsh apo thn arxh oti den qa xaqei oyte ena eyrw, afoy gi` ayta ta tameia blepoyme oti h epistrofh toy omologoy nayagei, menei kapoia allh lysh ektos apo to na kalyfqoyn ta diafygonta xrhmata apo to dhmosio proypologismo;

ANTWNAROS: Oi apanthseis moy einai apolytws safeis. O,ti eixa na pw gia to qema, to eipa.

KAKALHS: Pros ti ayth h mystikopaqeia me tis aifnidiastikes episkeceis toy Prwqypoyrgoy se diafora erga; Giati dhmosiopoioyntai elaxistes wres prin; Exei kapoioys logoys o Prwqypoyrgos na periodeyei sta kryfa sxedon sta erga poy pragmatopoioyntai;

ANTWNAROS: Ti einai ayta poy lete; Einai oi dhmosiografoi parontes.

KAKALHS: Mono ta kanalia exei. Giati den to anakoinwnei nwritera, fobatai mhpws...

ANTWNAROS: Oi dhmosiografoi einai parontes. O Prwqypoyrgos htan, opws jerete, to prohgoymeno Sabbatokyriako, sth Qessalonikh. Polloi apo esas, den jerw posoi, alla en pash periptwsei qymamai oti eida orismenoys, htan parontes. Ayto to Sabbatokyriako exei mia seira dhmosiwn emfanisewn. Ola ayta einai gnwsta.

KAKALHS: Mono h synodeia twn kanaliwn endiaferei ton Prwqypoyrgo, otan kanei tis periodeies; Den ton endiaferei na yparxei kai o kosmos, as poyme;

ANTWNAROS: Oloi oi dhmosiografoi einai kalodexoymenoi.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ep` aytoy. Akoysthke kata thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto ergostasio biologikoy kaqarismoy sthn Cytalleia oti to problhma me th metafora ths lymmatolasphs qa exei lyqei se ena ejamhno. Ean den apatwmai, se ena ejamhno exei pei o k. Soyflias oti qa ginoyn kai ekloges. Qa einai proeklogikh h lysh dhladh toy problhmatos;

ANTWNAROS: Exete mia periergh tash na syndeete diafora pragmata -- eyxaristws na sas diabasw tis dhlwseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy k. Soyflia-- kai parakamptete thn oysia toy sygkekrimenoy qematos sto opoio edwse lysh meta apo apwleia deka peripoy etwn apo tis kybernhseis toy PASOK, h shmerinh kybernhsh.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, to problhma me th lymmatolasph to parelabe h kybernhsh, na to pw etsi, amesws molis kerdise tis ekloges. Edw kai tria xronia apla h lymmatolasph xynetai sto Sarwniko kai brwmizei tis aktes.

ANTWNAROS: As sas enhmerwsw, loipon, pws exoyn ta pragmata: Sthn Cytalleia, opws eipe shmera o k. Soyflias, eixe ginei ena periballontiko egklhma. To ergo ths jhranshs ths lasphs eprepe na exei kataskeyastei kai na leitoyrgei apo to 1995 --dyo kybernhseis PASOK, dyo Prwqypoyrgoi PASOK-- otan apo thn prwth fash toy biologikoy kaqarismoy arxisan na paragontai 250 tonoi lymmatolasphs hmerhsiws. Meta apo piesh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, entaxqhke stis sxetikes xrhmatodotikes apofaseis ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs gia th deyterh fash toy biologikoy kaqarismoy, to 2000. Omws den kataskeyasthke, parolo poy me eji symplhrwmatikes symbaseis ektojeythke to kostos twn ergwn ths deyterhs fashs toy biologikoy kaqarismoy ths Cytalleias, sta 202 ekat. eyrw apo 128 ekat. eyrw poy htan o arxikos proypologismos, 80 ekat. eyrw epanw. To apotelesma htan oti h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph to 2003, epi kybernhsews PASOK, katadikase thn Ellada kai afairese 30 ekat. eyrw apo th xrhmatodothsh toy ergoy ths deyterhs fashs. Qesame loipon, eipe o k. Soyflias, ws amesh proteraiothta thn antimetwpish aytoy toy periballontikoy egklhmatos kai to petyxame thrwntas plhrws to xronodiagramma poy eixame qesei. H kataskeyh toy ergostasioy jhranshs oloklhrwqhke kai apo thn 1h Ioynioy arxise h dokimastikh leitoyrgia toy. Ayta einai ta pragmatika stoixeia.

GKATSIOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na rwthsw, ean exei h kybernhsh kapoio sxolio gia tis idiaitera sklhres poines poy epiblhqhsan se prytaneis kai antiprytaneis toy Panteioy Panepisthmioy.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kanena sxolio, afoy h anejarthth ellhnikh dikaiosynh ejedwse thn etymhgoria ths gia mia ypoqesh poy apasxolhse thn ellhnikh koinh gnwmh. Mia ypoqesh poy aforoyse sthn kataxrhsh dhmosioy xrhmatos kai malista ston poly eyaisqhto xwro ths Paideias.

SPYRAKH: Den qewreite oti prepei na yparxei antistoixia ths ajiopoinhs prajhs me tis poines oi opoies epiballontai;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na kanw kanena sxolio gia thn apofash ths Dikaiosynhs.

KAPRALOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, yparxei kapoios sygkekrimenos logos poy phgainei ayrio o Prwqypoyrgos ston Proedro ths Dhmokratias;

ANTWNAROS: Einai sta plaisia twn taktikwn enhmerwtikwn synanthsewn, tis opoies exei o Proedros ths Dhmokratias k. Karolos Papoylias me ton Prwqypoyrgo k. Kwsta Karamanlh.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas peite se ti diaferoyn oi ``galazies fiestes'' me ton k. Karamanlh, apo tis ``prasines fiestes'' me ton k. Shmith;

ANTWNAROS: Den antilambanomai to erwthma sas.

KAKALHS: O Prwqypoyrgos milhse shmera oti den kanei fiestes. Ti akribws kanei;

ANTWNAROS: Kai pali den antilambanomai to erwthma sas.

KAKALHS: Den diabasate tis dhlwseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

ANTWNAROS: Poy akribws anafereste;

KAKALHS: Akribws sth dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy oti h kybernhsh den kanei fiestes se antiqesh me toys prokatoxoys ths. Se ti diaferoyn oi dikes sas fiestes apo twn prokatoxwn;

ANTWNAROS: Den blepw kanena tetoio xarakthristiko sth shmerinh paroysia toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

KAKALHS: Gia poso qa synexisei tis proeklogikes periodeies o Prwqypoyrgos, xwris na anakoinwnei kai thn hmeromhnia twn eklogwn;

ANTWNAROS: Exete qesei to erwthma me  fantazomai koyrastikh--epanalhptikothta, akomh kai gia toys synadelfoys sas sthn aiqoysa.

KAKALHS: Koyrastiko einai ayto poy kanei o Prwqypoyrgos.

ANTWNAROS: Kaqoloy. O Prwqypoyrgos exei pei to aytonohto kai sas to epanalambanw kai egw gia akomh mia fora: Oi ekloges qa ginoyn sthn wra toys.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na rwthsw, ean kata th gnwmh ths kybernhshs, meta thn klhsh, apo thn pleyra toy eisaggelews, toy k. Eygenioy Papadopoyloy prwhn eidikoy Grammatea toy Ypoyrgeioy Apasxolhshs ws ypoptoy, tekmairetai politikh eyqynh se o,ti afora thn apelqoysa, thn prohgoymenh dioikhsh toy Ypoyrgeioy Apasxolhshs gia to zhthma twn omologwn.

ANTWNAROS: Exw topoqethqei gia to qema ths dikastikhs diereynhshs toy qematos. Isxyoyn osa sas exw pei.

SPYRAKH: Epeidh to erwthma einai teleiws diaforetiko. Exei na kanei pia me th dikastikh ejelijh. O k. Papadopoylos htan ena proswpo poy topoqethqhke apo ton prwhn Ypoyrgo Apasxolhshs sth qesh toy eidikoy Grammatea. Ton kalei o eisaggeleas ws ypopto. Ayto kata thn kybernhsh apotelei diadikasias apodoshs politikhs eyqynhs sthn prohgoymenh politikh hgesia; Den lew gia thn twrinh.

ANTWNAROS: Monh sas xrhsimopoihsate th lejh kleidi: ``Ejelijh''. Den prokeitai na sxoliasw, se kamia periptwsh, thn ejelijh ths dikastikhs diereynhshs toy qematos.

MPESKENHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, den sxoliazete, alla shmera o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias, milwntas sto radiofwno toy SKAI, epanelabe oti thn eyqynh th feroyn apokleistika aplhstoi xrhmatistes kai anideoi dioikhtes.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ypoch moy tis sygkekrimenes dhlwseis. Alla gnwrizw ayta poy exei pei o k. Alogoskoyfhs sto parelqon. Kai ws armodios Ypoyrgos, topoqeteitai ypeyqyna.

MPESKENHS: Synepws, synagetai oti den qa perimenoyme apodosh politikwn eyqynwn, efoson...

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw kati sta osa exw pei gia to qema twn omologwn. To qema exei ejantlhqei kai exei parei to dromo ths Dikaiosynhs kai twn anejarthtwn Arxwn.

TSIOYFOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, th Deytera, me aformh to diaggelma toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia thn Pagkosmia Hmera Periballontos, o k. Gkoytzanhs ean qymamai kala, eixe rwthsei gia to qema ths lymmatolasphs ton k. Roysopoylo. O k. Roysopoylos eixe pei oti ``poly syntoma qa exete apanthsh sto erwthma to ti qa ginei me th lymmatolasph''. Profanws, loipon, h kybernhsh eixe programmatisei ayto poy egine shmera. Hjere oti o Prwqypoyrgos qa paei shmera kai qa ejaggeilei to ergo, qa anakoinwsei th leitoyrgia toy ergoy. Para tayta kai enw fainetai oti htan gnwsto apo th Deytera oti qa phgaine o Prwqypoyrgos, h dikh mas enhmerwsh gia to shmerino gegonos egine shmera, stis 6 to prwi. Gia poio logo;

ANTWNAROS: Otan oristikopoieitai mia dhmosia emfanish toy Prwqypoyrgoy, enhmerwneste.

TSIOYFOS: Eji h wra to prwi;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh epanalambanete synexws oti to qema me ta omologa, toylaxiston se o,ti afora to politiko skelos, exei ejantlhqei, para tayta omws apo thn pleyra toy PASOK kaqoloy den ejantleitai. Kai antiqetws, o k. Papandreoy se kaqe eykairia, opws xqes, kathgorei thn kybernhsh oti sthn oysia epidiwkei th xeiragwghsh ths Dikaiosynhs. Kai milame gia to qema twn omologwn. Eite giati den exoyn askhqei akomh oi diwjeis, kata thn apoch toy Proedroy toy PASOK, eite gia diaforoys alloys logoys. H dikh sas stash poia einai apenanti ston Proedro toy PASOK, o opoios sthn oysia sas kataggellei gia xeiragwghsh ths Dikaiosynhs;

ANTWNAROS: Oi Ellhnes polites kai mnhmh exoyn kai krish kai ikanothtes na sygkrinoyn. Kai jeroyn poly kala poios htan ekeinos sto parelqon poy prospaqhse na xeiragwghsei th Dikaiosynh kai poios einai shmera poy me antistoixes epembaseis prospaqei na xeiragwghsei th Dikaiosynh.

GKOYTZANHS: Eipate oti, efoson einai se ejelijh h dikastikh ereyna, eseis den sxoliazete. Swsta; Pws jeroyn oi Ypoyrgoi oti apo ayth thn ejelijh ths dikastikhs ereynas den qa prokycoyn eyqynes kai politikwn proswpwn; Den einai ayto safhs parembash;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. Ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos den prokeitai na topoqethqw se ayth thn ypoqesh.

GKOYTZANHS: Ma, ayto einai safhs parembash sth Dikaiosynh na mhn ftasei se politika proswpa kai na mhn...

ANTWNAROS: Alloi kanoyn parembash kai oxi h kybernhsh.

GKOYTZANHS: ... na mhn prokycoyn politikes eyqynes. Ayto kanei h kybernhsh apo thn arxh k. Ekproswpe.

ANTWNAROS: Ayth einai dikh sas apoch, thn opoia profanws kataqetete. Einai sxoliasmos.

GKOYTZANHS: Kai peripoy toy 70% twn Ellhnwn, opws prokyptei apo oles tis dhmoskophseis poy exoyn ginei.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, hqela na sas rwthsw kati gia thn ekqesh ekeinh toy ART Aqhna. H kallitexnis ths opoias to ergo aposyrqhke apo ekeinh thn ekqesh, milaei ayrio to meshmeri, sto synedrio poy ginetai gia th symplhrwsh 100 xronwn apo th gennhsh toy Kwnstantinoy Karamanlh. To prwto erwthma einai, ean gnwrizete an qa parastei h kallitexnis kai to deytero einai ean yphrxe twra h dynatothta gia tis prosklhseis kai poioi qa miloysan sto Synedrio, pisteyete oti qa thn kaloysan;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ypoch moy to plhres programma twn en logw ekdhlwsewn. Synepws den mporw na topoqethqw.

MELIGKWNHS: Xqes, qa eidate ta plana, fantazomai, me ton k. Eyqymioy, ton ekproswpo toy PASOK, na paroysiazei kati diselida, ta opoia proskomise o k. Doykas sth Boylh ws symbaseis gia ta epta epipleon domhmena omologa poy exoyn ekdoqei apo to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn. Qewreite oti mesa se aytes tis dyo selides periexontai toso sympyknwmena oloi oi oroi kai oi symfwnies gia thn ekdosh toy kaqe enos domhmenoy omologoy;

ANTWNAROS: Exei apanthqei to qema. Den exw na prosqesw kati.

Sas eyxaristw.

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