Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-01-30

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GENIKH GRAMMATEIA ENHMERWSHS

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 30 Ianoyarioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 54653311

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 30 Ianoyarioy 2007

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs qa synanthqei ayrio, Tetarth 31 Ianoyarioy, stis 13.30, sto Megaro Majimoy, paroysia toy Ypoyrgoy Anaptyjhs k. Dhmhtrh Sioyfa, me ton Italo Ypoyrgo Anaptyjhs k. Mpersani.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h kybernhsh qewrei plhrh kai ikanopoihtikh thn apanthsh poy edwse mesw grapths anakoinwshs o Yfypoyrgos Amynas k. Mixaloliakos gia ta osa toy katamartyrei o boyleyths toy PASOK k. Karximakhs;

ANTWNAROS: Exei apanthqei to qema apo ton k. Mixaloliako.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Symmerizeste tis plhrofories poy lene oti ta stoixeia sto PASOK ta dinei o boyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Mantoybalos, gia thn ypoqesh Mixololiakoy;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kamia tetoia plhroforhsh. Apanthse o k. Mixaloliakos. Ep` aytoy toy qematos den exw na prosqesw kati allo.

SPYRAKH: H kybernhsh qewrei eparkeis tis ejhghseis poy edwse o boyleyths Xaniwn k. Nikhforakhs se sxesh me th drasthriothta toy astynomikoy froyroy toy, meta ta nea stoixeia poy prokyptoyn oti to qema ereynatai apo thn Yphresia Eswterikwn Ypoqesewn ths EL.AS., klimakio ths opoias exei metabei sta Xania;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei h apanthsh poy edwse xqes, o k. Roysopoylos. Den exw na prosqesw kati.

SIDERHS: Giati den doqhkan ston k. Almoynia ta stoixeia gia thn ayjhsh toy AEP;

ANTWNAROS: Prokeitai gia ena eidiko qema toy opoioy den mporw na gnwrizw, ayth th stigmh, oles tis parametroys. Einai fysiko h epejergasia twn stoixeiwn aytwn na apaitei kapoio xrono. Parakalw na apeyqynqeite gia leptomereies sto armodio Ypoyrgeio.

SIDERHS: Kat` arxas, o k. Alogoskoyfhs hjere oti apaitei kapoio xrono kai eixe pei oti qa doqoyn ws tis 31/12. Den doqhkan. To gegonos oti htan kentrikh epilogh ths kybernhshs h apografh, den mporeite na me parapempete sto Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn.

ANTWNAROS: Exw thn aisqhsh oti syndeete dyo diaforetika pragmata.

SIDERHS: Kaqoloy. Giati me thn apografh mphkame se epithrhsh. Twra me ta nea stoixeia qa bgoyme apo thn epithrhsh. O k. Alogoskoyfhs den qelei na bgoyme ton Ioynio, poy qa bgei kai h Germania, gia na pame Oktwbrh giati qa toy zhtane oles oi koinwnikes tajeis, paroxes. Ayto einai to problhma. Den mperdeyw kaqoloy ta pragmata.

ANTWNAROS: Kanete almata, ta opoia den mporw na parakoloyqhsw.

MPALHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, prin ligo, o k. Paylopoylos ejw apo to Megaro Majimoy milhse gia thn allagh sthn politikh epistrateysh. Yparxei omws, se isxy h epistrateysh twn naytergatwn. Me ayth thn ypoqesh ti qa ginei;

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete, h kybernhsh exei desmeytei hdh apo ton perasmeno Febroyario, otan eixe anakoinwqei h epistrateysh twn naytergatwn oti qa prosarmosei to nomiko plaisio stis apaithseis ths sygxronhs pragmatikothtas. Ayto kai ginetai twra. Ejypakoyetai oti enocei aytwn twn newn ryqmisewn, tis opoies anakoinwse shmera o armodios Ypoyrgos k. Paylopoylos meta th synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, qa arqei kai h yfistamenh epistrateysh.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, symfwna me porisma ths Arxhs Diasfalishs toy Aporrhtoy twn Epikoinwniwn, me hmeromhnia 16 Ioynioy, einai ena eggrafo to opoio efere sthn epikairothta h efhmerida ``TO QEMA'', ginontan ypoklopes mesw twn kentrwn toy OTE, se Drama, Alejandroypolh kai Aqhna. Sto idio dhmosieyma yparxei kai eggrafo toy OTE me to opoio o Organismos paradexetai oti adynatei na diasfalisei to aporrhto twn epikoinwniwn. To erwthma einai: Kat` arxhn, giati ayth h ypoqesh ``koykoylwqhke'' kai den doqhke sth dhmosiothta kai to deytero, ean h kybernhsh skopeyei na kanei kati gia na qwrakisei ton Organismo kai na diasfalisei tis synomilies.

ANTWNAROS: Anaferesqe se plhrofories, tis opoies egw den qelw men na amfisbhthsw, alla den tis gnwrizw. Einai qema mias Anejarthths Arxhs. Jerete pws leitoyrgoyn oi Anejarthtes Arxes. Fantazomai oti oi Anejarthtes Arxes, mesa sto plaisio ths leitoyrgias toys, qa kanoyn oti apaiteitai.

SPYRAKH: Yparxei mia epistolh toy Ypoyrgoy Dhmosias Tajhs k. Byrwna Polydwra pros ton Proedro ths ERT k. Xrhsto Panagopoylo, thn opoia qewrw oti exete ypoch sas epeidh exei dhmosieyqei ston Typo. Ws ek toytoy, qa hqela na rwthsw ean h epistolh ayth exei koinopoihqei kai sthn armodia Genikh Grammateia poy einai politikh proistamenh ths ERT kai ean yparxei kapoio kentriko sxolio ths kybernhshs se sxesh me thn allhlografia Ypoyrgoy me ton Proedro ths kratikhs thleorashs.

ANTWNAROS: Ej oswn gnwrizw, den yparxei tetoia koinopoihsh. Bebaiws, gnwrizw thn epistolh. Qa hqela na sas pw oti einai sebasth h apoch toy Ypoyrgoy. Einai, omws, sebasth kai h anejarthsia ths dhmosias thleorashs sthn askhsh ths dhmosiografias, opws sebasth einai apo ayth thn kybernhsh -kai to ypogrammizw gia mia akomh fora- kai h leitoyrgia kaqe mesoy enhmerwshs.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Dhladh, den symmerizeste thn apoch oti h ERT einai grafeio Typoy twn anarxikwn.

ANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na pw, to eipa. Den exw na prosqesw kati.

KAKALHS: H kybernhsh yioqetei thn apoch poy ekfrazei o k. Polydwras oti oi anarxikoi peripoy einai hmitromokrates;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti einai sebasth h apoch toy Ypoyrgoy. Peran toytoy, den exw na prosqesw kati.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw ean einai qemith kat` arxhn -afhnw to periexomeno ths epistolhs- mia tetoia parembash ek meroys enos Ypoyrgoy se sxesh me th dhmosia thleorash.

ANTWNAROS: H apoch enos Ypoyrgoy einai sebasth. Den nomizw oti mporei kapoios na amfisbhthsei to dikaiwma enos Ypoyrgoy na gracei mia epistolh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh den katalaba thn erwthsh prohgoymenws, oyte kai thn apanthsh poy dwsate, eipate oti den gnwrizete na yparxei tetoia koinopoihsh.

ANTWNAROS: Akribws.

PALAIOLOGOS: Se poion; Ston armodio Ypoyrgo (den akoygetai) ton k. Roysopoylo;

SPYRAKH: Den yparxei Ypoyrgos Typoy, yparxei Grammateia Epikoinwnias.

ANTWNAROS: Sas epanalambanw oti, ej oswn gnwrizw, den yparxei tetoia koinopoihsh.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, tis teleytaies hmeres parakoloyqoyme dhmosieymata gia enan polemo ths nyxtas poy ginetai. Gia nonoys poy ejontwnontai metajy toys. Yparxei ena erwthma, h ellhnikh astynomia ti kanei; Einai mhpws kapoio sxedio na ejaleicei thn egklhmatikothta, afhnontas toys na skotwqoyn metajy toys;

ANTWNAROS: Den mporw na ypeiselqw se tetoia qemata me ton tropo poy eseis ta proseggizete. H astynomia -to exw pei epaneilhmmenws se ayth thn aiqoysa- exei mia sygkekrimenh apostolh, thn opoia kai epitelei. Exei apostolh thn thrhsh ths tajhs kai ths asfaleias, thn prostasia ths zwhs kai ths perioysias twn Ellhnwn politwn. Yparxoyn nomoi kai para thn yparjh nomwn, diaxronika sthn istoria, h diaprajh paranomwn prajewn den mporei na apofeyxqei. Apostolh, loipon, olwn ekeinwn oi opoioi exoyn taxqei gia th diathrhsh ths tajhs, ths hremias, ths asfaleias, einai na dialeykanoyn tis paranomes aytes prajeis kai na odhgoyn stis syllhceis twn enoxwn.

SPYRAKH: Hqela na rwthsw ean me bash ta dedomena ta opoia yparxoyn ton teleytaio kairo, h kybernhsh einai ikanopoihmenh sto baqmo ths ekplhrwshs ths apostolhs ekeinwn poy prepei na dialeykanoyn kai na patajoyn tis paranomes prajeis.

ANTWNAROS: Exw topoqethqei epaneilhmmena tis teleytaies bdomades gia to sygkekrimeno qema se sxedon taytoshmes erwthseis oi opoies moy exoyn ypoblhqei. H apoch moy ayth, thn opoia exw ekfrasei dhmosia me thn idiothta toy Anaplhrwth Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy, isxyei sto akeraio.

MANH: Na epanelqw sto qema toy k. Mixaloliakoy. H grapth dhlwsh poy ejedwse xqes den diaceydei oyte epibebaiwnei to gegonos. To parakamptei kai apla kathgorei toys boyleytes toy PASOK oti systhmatika baloyn enantion toy. To gegonos oti gia thn oysia den mila, ikanopoiei thn kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Menw sthn apanthsh toy k. Mixaloliakoy.

SIDERHS: H Grammateia kai o k. Roysopoylos einai politikos proistamenos ths ERT. Sas meiwnei to gegonos oti o k. Polydwras kataggellei pws ejomoiwnontai astynomikoi kai anarxikoi;

ANTWNAROS: Exw topoqethqei epi toy qematos. Einai safh ta osa sas eipa. Mhn jexnate oti h ellhnikh Politeia -kai ayto einai kati poy o k. Roysopoylos kai egw to exoyme pei epaneilhmmena se ayth thn aiqoysa- ofeilei na threi toys kanones, toys nomoys kai to Syntagma ths xwras.

SIDERHS: Nai, ayto einai mia genikh arxh. Egw sas rwthsa epi toy prokeimenoy. An sas meiwnei ayth h ejomoiwsh poy kanei o k. Polydwras oti nai, ejomoiwnei bandaloys, paranomoyntes, biaiopragoyntes me thn astynomia, poy einai h hremh dynamh opws leei ths dhmokratikhs nomimothtas.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw kati.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas prosdiorisete xronika pote peripoy qa ginei h arsh ths epistrateyshs twn naytergatwn; Me thn kataqesh toy nomosxedioy toy k. Paylopoyloy...

ANTWNAROS: Einai ena texniko erwthma sto opoio den eimai se qesh na sas apanthsw.

KAKALHS: Anejarthta apo ayto h me bash to kainoyrgio nomosxedio;

ANTWNAROS: Eipa oti me thn prowqhsh twn newn ryqmisewn oi opoies prosarmozoyn, opws qa eprepe na exei ginei edw kai para polla xronia, to keimeno nomiko plaisio sth sygxronh pragmatikothta, einai eylogo, eynohto, oti qa arqei h sygkekrimenh epistrateysh.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sto qema twn ypoklopwn parapemcate sthn ADAE. Wstoso, to politiko erwthma einai ean shmera h ellhnikh kybernhsh mporei na diabebaiwsei oti sthn ellhnikh epikrateia den ginontai kanenos eidoys ypoklopes.

ANTWNAROS: Exoyme topoqethqei sygkekrimena ep' aytoy toy qematos polles fores. Osa sas exoyme pei sto parelqon, ejakoloyqoyn na isxyoyn. Mhn jexnate oti einai h ellhnikh kybernhsh ekeinh h opoia anelabe thn prwtoboylia gia thn dialeykansh ths ypoqeshs ypoklopwn ths opoias qymata -to epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora- htan o Prwqypoyrgos kai h shmerinh kybernhsh. H shmerinh kybernhsh yposthrizei oti prepei na xynetai apleto fws se opoiesdhpote tetoies ypoqeseis yparxoyn.

KAKALHS: Symmerizeste thn apoch poy exoyn ekfrasei kai dhmosia boyleytes toy kommatos sas, oti h kybernhsh prepei na diasfalisei ena klima synaineshs poy yparxei me to PASOK giati ayto dieykolynei thn prowqhsh twn allagwn kai twn metarryqmisewn sthn Paideia kai sthn antimetwpish twn foithtikwn kinhtopoihsewn;

ANTWNAROS: Den perimenete apo emena asfalws na topoqethqw otan anafereste syllhbdhn, aoristws kai genika se dhlwseis.

KAKALHS: Basei aytoy to lew...

ANTWNAROS: Qa to epanalabw gia mia akomh fora: H shmerinh kybernhsh -kai ayto to exei apodeijei sthn prajh- edw kai panw apo ena xrono exei kanei ena sygkekrimeno, leptomereiako, oysiastiko dialogo me oloys toys emplekomenoys h toylaxiston me osoys qelhsan na metasxoyn se ayto to dialogo kai den apoysiasan prosxhmatika, wste na ejeyreqoyn ekeines oi lyseis gia to xwro ths Paideias poy h megalh pleiochfia -kai gi` ayto eimai bebaios- twn Ellhnwn politwn, qewrei oti prepei na doqoyn. H prosarmogh sta sygxrona dedomena, me kyrio stoxo thn anabaqmish ths dhmosias Paideias sth xwra mas apotelei, opws gnwrizete, basiko melhma ths shmerinhs kybernhshs.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, allh htan h erwthsh. Rwthsa an ektimate oti einai apotelesmatikh h synainesh poy prosferei to PASOK;

ANTWNAROS: Opoios metexei epoikodomhtika sto dialogo kai prosferei idees, protaseis, lyseis, se ayto ton koino stoxo poy prepei na exoyme oloi mas, einai asfalws kalodexoymenos.

GKATSIOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, nwris shmera to prwi, omada foithtwn pragmatopoihse diamartyria ejw apo ton proaylio xwro toy naoy poy brisketai sthn Polytexneioypolh toy Zwgrafoy, thn wra poy briskotan se ejelijh h leitoyrgia gia thn eorth twn Triwn Ierarxwn. Fwnazan synqhmata kai malista apaithsan na stamathsei h leitoyrgia. Qa hqela parakalw to sxolio ths kybernhshs gi` ayto to gegonos.

ANTWNAROS: Einai aparadektes energeies, tis opoies katadikazoyme me apolyth safhneia.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qewreite eparkh thn tekmhriwsh toy k. Giakoymatoy gia ``lamogia'' toy PASOK, otan xqes stis dieykrinistikes toy dhlwseis to mono poy brhke na pei htan gia ton gamo toy Akh Tsoxatzopoyloy;

ANTWNAROS: Exei topoqethqei o k. Roysopoylos. Den exw na prosqesw kati.

MELIGKWNHS: Gia ta epeisodia shmera to prwi stoy Zwgrafoy, pisteyete oti ftaiei to asylo kai ekei;

ANTWNAROS: Qewrw oti h bebhlwsh xwrwn latreias opoy oi pistoi exoyn th dynatothta -kai prepei na exoyn th dynatothta- na proserxontai gia na askoyn ayto to dikaiwma to opoio exoyn, einai aparadekth apo kaqe apoch.

KAKALHS: H kybernhsh pisteyei oti to PASOK kai o LAOS exoyn koines epidiwjeis kai koyltoyra, opws anaferetai se ayto to prwtokollo poy ypegracan sthn Kerkyra;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei h topoqethsh poy ekane xqes o k. Roysopoylos.

GKOYTZANHS: Mia erwthsh se sxesh me thn egklhmatikothta. Prokyptei oti apo to 2002 mexri shmera -kai ayto prokyptei apo ta stoixeia poy dinoyn oi idies oi astynomikes arxes- yparxei mia diogkwsh toy organwmenoy egklhmatos, laqremporio, ekbiasmoi, prostasia magaziwn klp. Ayto einai politiko erwthma, den afora mono thn EL.AS.

ANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na sas pw, to eipa. H Astynomia einai epifortismenh me ena sygkekrimeno ergo to opoio, sta plaisia twn dynatothtwn ths, epitelei me ton kalytero dynato tropo.

Sas eyxaristw.

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