Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-06-27

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 27 Ioynioy 2006

JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SPYRAKH: Qa hqela na rwthsw, meta to xqesino qorybo poy dhmioyrghqhke apo thn pleyra ths kypriakhs kybernhshs, an epixeirhqhke apo thn pleyra ths Aqhnas epikoinwnia me th Leykwsia, prokeimenoy na diaskedastoyn oi entypwseis poy proklhqhkan kai apo ta dhmosieymata, alla kai apo thn epishmh antidrash toy ekproswpoy toy k. Papadopoyloy.

ANTWNAROS: Opws sas eipa kai xqes h synergasia, h synennohsh, oi epafes metajy Elladas kai Kyproy, metajy ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai ths kybernhshs ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias einai synexeis kai den yparxei kati poy qa mporoyse na tis skiasei.

RABANOS: H apofash toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Karamanlh na mh qesei ston Finlando omologo toy Banxanen to sxedio poy prowqei h Kypriakh Dhmokratia, dhladh thn epanenergopoihsh toy Limanioy ths Ammoxwstoy ypo koinotikh epithrhsh kai th qespish enos xronodiagrammatos gia thn epikyrwsh toy prwtokolloy ths Agkyras apo th geitonikh xwra, einai stash poy synadei me thn koinh strathgikh poy qa hqele h Kypros me thn Ellada;

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete, syzhthqhkan polla qemata stis syzhthseis poy eixe o Prwqypoyrgos me ton Finlando omologo toy. Eidika gi` ayta ta qemata exei ginei enhmerwsh stoys synadelfoys sas, oi opoioi synodeyoyn ton Prwqypoyrgo se ayto to tajidi toy stis dyo xwres. Ean epiqymeite mporw eyxaristws na sas diabasw ena sxetiko apospasma apo th xqesinh synenteyjh Typoy, thn opoia paraxwrhse o Prwqypoyrgos kai opoy anaferetai sygkekrimena sto qema ths Kyproy.

IWANNOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, edw kai arketh wra sto Lagonhsi yparxoyn symplokes, jana gia allh mia fora, enw twra einai kai to megalo syllalhthrio sthn Aqhna. Pws h Politeia den mporeite na antimetwpisete ayth thn katastash; Prepei opwsdhpote ta syllalhthria na katalhgoyn se symplokes;

ANTWNAROS: Koitajte, den symmerizomai thn perigrafh, thn opoia molis kanate sthn aiqoysa. Ekeino to opoio gnwrizw einai oti sto Lagonhsi ginetai mia shmantikh Ypoyrgikh Synodos, apofasismenh -an qymamai kala- edw kai dyo xronia. Kai lew shmantikh dioti, metajy twn allwn, einai h prwth fora, ej oswn gnwrizw, poy synerxontai oi Ypoyrgoi Paideias twn xwrwn toy OOSA, makria apo to Parisi, opoy einai h edra toy Organismoy. Den yparxei kamia amfibolia oti oi Ypoyrgoi poy antiproswpeyoyn oles aytes tis xwres qa prepei na exoyn th dynatothta na synelqoyn, na synedriasoyn kai na syzhthsoyn ola ta qemata poy exoyn sthn hmerhsia diatajh toys. Taytoxrona, osoi qeloyn na diadhlwsoyn h na kinhtopoihqoyn, sta plaisia ths ellhnikhs nomoqesias, exoyn th dynatothta na sygkentrwqoyn kai na ekferoyn tis apoceis toys.

PALAIOLOGOS: Poios eyqynetai tote gia tis symplokes poy ginontai sto Lagonhsi, giati@

ANTWNAROS: Ayth th stigmh molis arxizei h Synodos. Eimai, loipon, o teleytaios anqrwpos, o opoios qa apodwsei eyqynes gia gegonota poy eseis moy metaferete. Qa sas elega, omws, oti osoi synadelfoi sas briskontai epi topoy, mporoyn na diapistwsoyn poioi feroyn ayto poy apokalesate ``eyqynh''.

SIDERHS: Dhladh, den jerete an htan akinhta ta MAT pali.

ANTWNAROS: H Astynomia exei mia sygkekrimenh, dyskolh apostolh. Kai thn apostolh ayth -kai se ayth thn periptwsh- prepei na th ferei se peras.

SIDERHS: Kai efarmozete kai prolhptikh astynomokratia. Giati bebaia shmera ta MAT@

ANTWNAROS: Sas parakalw. Sxoliasmoys toys opoioys qelete na kanete, mporeite na toys kanete ekei opoy ergazeste. Den apodexomai, se kamia periptwsh, oti h shmerinh kybernhsh epitrepei h exei thn proqesh na epibalei astynomokratia.

SIDERHS: Katarxas den eipa gia thn kybernhsh. Mporei na einai ena@

ANTWNAROS: Eipate ``efarmozete''. Kai to eipate apeyqynomenos pros emena, apeyqynomenos ston Ekproswpo ths kybernhshs. Den dexomai th momfh thn opoia apeyqynete pros thn kybernhsh.

SIDERHS: Akoyste ti qelw na pw: Sto SEIRIO katebainan 5-6 poylman me foithtes apo th Qessalonikh kai phgan astynomikes dynameis sto SEIRIO, opws kanoyn gia toys xoyligkan toy PAOK kai toys synodeysane ws thn plateia Karaiskakh. Etsi den enteinontai ta pneymata; Den eperxetai megalyterh@

ANTWNAROS: Moy metaferete ena sygkekrimeno, memonwmeno peristatiko gia to opoio den eimai kan enhmeros.

SIDERHS: To kalycan synadelfoi toy astynomikoy reportaz. Se ekeino anaferomoyn gia to ``prolhptikh'' poy eipa.

KAKALHS: H kybernhsh exei katarghsei sthn prajh to dikaiwma twn diadhlwsewn. Anaferomai se dyo sygkekrimena peristatika shmera. Apo th mia, apagoreyei thn proseggish sto xwro poy synedriazoyn oi ypoyrgoi Paideias toy OOSA se apostash xiliometrwn. Ti nohma exei ayth h apagoreysh; Kai apo thn allh, apagoreyei stoys foithtes poy erxontai apo th Qessalonikh na ftasoyn sta Propylaia. Ti shmainei ayto sthn prajh;

ANTWNAROS: Afenos men exoyme filojenoymenoys polloys Ypoyrgoys filikwn pros thn Ellada xwrwn, oi opoioi exoyn epilejei th xwra mas gia na synedriasoyn kai prepei na exoyn to dikaiwma na synedriasoyn omala. Apo thn allh pleyra, yparxoyn omades Ellhnwn politwn poy qeloyn na diadhlwsoyn. Mporoyn na diadhlwsoyn kai na ekferoyn tis apoceis toys eirhnika, filhsyxa, opws ginetai synhqws se aytes tis periptwseis se olo ton kosmo. Poy blepete eseis thn apagoreysh twn diadhlwsewn; Ektos ki an qewreite oti prepei na diadhlwsoyn mesa sthn aiqoysa twn syskecewn, opote ekei asfalws den qa me breite symfwno.

KAKALHS: Ayto poy blepw egw einai oti h kybernhsh endiaferetai mono gia to dikaiwma twn ypoyrgwn na synedriasoyn. Oxi gia to dikaiwma twn diadhlwtwn.

ANTWNAROS: Den exete para na pate sto kentro ths Aqhnas gia na deite omades Ellhnwn politwn -egw to eida pro oligoy stis thleoraseis- poy diadhlwnoyn.

KAKALHS: Liges omades htan, mas eipate. Oxi polloi Ellhnes polites.

ANTWNAROS: Eipa epi lejei ``omades Ellhnwn politwn''.

BLAXOS: Mhpws exei kamia idea h kybernhsh pws qa gefyrwsei th diafwnia Abramopoyloy-Paylopoyloy gia to qema toy ASEP;

ANTWNAROS: Den blepw kamia diafwnia.

BLAXOS: Kai tis proslhceis sto systhma Ygeias;

ANTWNAROS: Den blepw kamia diafwnia. Me rwthsate xqes kai sas aphnthsa.

BLAXOS: O k. Paylopoylos symfwnei me th diadikasia poy epeleje o k. Abramopoylos;

ANTWNAROS: Den exete para na rwthsete ton idio ton k. Paylopoylo. Opws eipa kai xqes, aytes oi skeceis, oi idees, oi protaseis toy k. Abramopoyloy aforoyn ston eidiko tomea ths ygeias, opoy yparxoyn xronobores diadikasies sto xwro ths proslhchs twn noshleytwn. Ean ejeyreqoyn apotelesmatikes lyseis, einai kalodexoymenes.

BLAXOS: Ara, exei to o.k. apo thn pleyra toy k. Karamanlh.

ANTWNAROS: Exw apanthsei. Isxyoyn oi xqesines apanthseis moy. Den exw na pw kati allo.

PALAIOLOGOS: Egw qa epimeinw sthn erwthsh, sxetika me to tajidi toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai th synanthsh toy me ton k. Balxanen. Eqese telika o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos to sxedio poy prowqei h kypriakh Dhmokratia. Ta dyo mallon sxedia, ena gia to aysthro xronodiagramma kai to allo gia thn epanenergopoihsh toy limanioy ths Ammoxwstoy ypo koinotikh epithrhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Ekane, xqes, anafora o Prwqypoyrgos gia ta qemata poy syzhthqhkan sthn koinh synenteyjh Typoy. Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo.

PAPAMIXAHL: Hqela na rwthsw ti apanta h kybernhsh sto xqesino erwthma poy eqese o ekproswpos Typoy toy PASOK k. Aqanasakhs, ean dhladh o ypoyrgos Ygeias o k. Abramopoylos exei ejasfalisei ta aparaithta kondylia apo ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias meta apo synennohsh, gia na kanei tis proslhceis sta nosokomeia.

ANTWNAROS: Kai gi` ayto apanthsa xqes. Isxyei h xqesinh apanthsh moy.

SIDERHS: O k. Alogoskoyfhs eipe oti den yparxoyn ta lefta.

ANTWNAROS: Moy metaferete mia dhlwsh toy k. Alogoskoyfh, thn opoia se ayth th morfh ths, den th gnwrizw.

SIDERHS: Sthn ADEDY to eipe.

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na diabasete th dhlwsh toy k. Alogoskoyfh sthn ADEDY. Eipe diafora pragmata o k. Alogoskoyfhs meta th synanthsh me thn ADEDY. Epilegete mono orismena apo osa eipe.

SIDERHS: Epilegw giati afora to qema. Gi` ayto to epilegw.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei h xqesinh apanthsh moy. Den exw na prosqesw kati.

BLAXOS: Eseis dwsate thn apanthsh sas to meshmeri. Meta o k. Alogoskoyfhs ekane allh dhlwsh, meta apo esas.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei h xqesinh apanthsh moy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh xqes den rwthqhkate gia to qema poy qa sas pw kai ara den exete apanthsei, yparxei ena qema se ejelijh. H diafwnia poy exei o k. Alogoskoyfhs me ton k. Liaph, se sxesh me thn efarmogh twn kanonismwn ergasias. Xqes, kykloi toy ypoyrgeioy Oikonomias, dhladh toy k. Alogoskoyfh, yposthrijan to antiqeto me ayto poy eipate eseis proxqes, oti apaiteitai h symfwnh gnwmh twn ergazomenwn, prokeimenoy na yparjei h ejelijh sto qema twn kanonismwn ergasias. Oi kykloi toy ypoyrgeioy Oikonomias, yposthrizoyn to antiqeto oti den apaiteitai h symfwnh gnwmh. Telika ayth h diastash apocewn me kanei na anarwtiemai, poios ekfrazei thn kybernhsh, eseis ws ekproswpos ths h o k. Alogoskoyfhs, me ton opoion erxeste se plhrh diastash;

ANTWNAROS: Kat` arxas, den gnwrizw toys kykloys poy epikaleiste. Ekeino to opoio gnwrizw einai -kai parakalw na diabasete akribws ti eipa thn Paraskeyh- oti pagia epidiwjh ths shmerinhs kybernhshs einai na anazhtoyntai lyseis, bebaiws me synainesh, sto plaisio toy dialogoy opoy ayto einai dynaton. Ayto, allwste, fanhke eidika kai sto qema twn DEKO me thn kalh ekbash poy yphrje sto qema twn Syllogikwn Symbasewn. H kybernhsh qa ejantlhsei ola ta periqwria dialogoy.

BLAXOS: Den eipate ayto thn Paraskeyh. Eixate pei proxqes oti yparxei diypoyrgikh apofash poy leei oti h opoia allagh prepei na ginetai me th symfwnh gnwmh twn ergazomenwn. Den eipate ayta poy mas eipate prin apo ligo.

ANTWNAROS: Sas parakalw na diabasete akribws osa eipa.

BLAXOS: Ayta pantws poy lete twra einai teleiws se diaforetiko klima apo o,ti eipe o k. Liaphs.

ANTWNAROS: Sas parakalw na diabasete ti akribws eipa thn Paraskeyh.

BLAXOS: Den eipate ayto@

ANTWNAROS: Kyrie Blaxo, prepei na eiste kalytera proetoimasmenos, otan moy qetete erwthseis.

BLAXOS: To qymamai poly kala, mas to eipate, se mas apanthsate.

KAKALHS: Hqela na rwthsw pote qa synedriasei to KYSEA, gia na egkrinei to ejoplistiko programma mamoyq twn 22 dis eyrw kai poia anagkh ypagoreyei thn ayjhsh twn polemikwn dapanwn th stigmh poy yparxei mia dynamikh beltiwshs stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis.

ANTWNAROS: Otan exw kati gia to KYSEA qa sas to anakoinwsw.

KAKALHS: Den einai mesa sthn ebdomada dhladh; Den einai mesa ston programmatismo;

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw oti: Otan exw kati gia to KYSEA qa sas to anakoinwsw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa epimeinw sthn erwthsh poy ekane prin oti thn prohgoymenh fora, thn Paraskeyh, eixate anaferqei sthn apofash ths Diypoyrgikhs Epitrophs oti qa prepei ta opoia bhmata na exoyn ei dynato th synainesh twn ergazomenwn. Ayto shmera nomizw oti to jepernate ligaki, pate ena bhma parapanw@

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn ayta poy sas eipa molis. Par` ola tayta, sas parakalw gia mia akomh fora, na diabasete ti akribws exw pei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ypociazomai ayto to ``na diabasete'' to exete ws systash kai ston Ypoyrgo Oikonomias h stoys kykloys toy ypoyrgeioy Oikonomias.

ANTWNAROS: Se esas apeyqynomai.

PALAIOLOGOS: Egw metaferw mia diastash apocewn. Egw rwtw.

ANTWNAROS: Dinete se qemata diastaseis ekei opoy den yparxoyn.

BLAXOS: Telikws gia na lyqei to qema, nomizw mia apanthsh qa mas to lysei. Eixe h oxi dikio o k. Boyrloymhs;

ANTWNAROS: Gia poio qema;

BLAXOS: Gia thn allagh ston kanonismo toy proswpikoy.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa ti isxyei.

BLAXOS: Mporeite na mas to janapeite pali;

ANTWNAROS: Qelete na sas janadiabasw th dhlwsh poy ekana prohgoymenws;

BLAXOS: Oxi, ayth poy kanate proxqes.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

IWANNOY: Eipate oti kalo einai h synainesh apo th mia, opoy einai dynato na yparjei, kai apo thn allh lete oti h kybernhsh qa ejantlhsei ola ta periqwria dialogoy. Synepws, ean o dialogos den apodwsei karpoys, isxyei ayto poy leei o k. Alogoskoyfhs;

ANTWNAROS: Ean o dialogos pros anazhthsh ths synaineshs den apodwsei karpoys, tote qa efarmostoyn oi pronoies toy nomoy. Den yparxei tipota neo se ayto poy sas lew.

BLAXOS: Ara, den isxyei ayto poy eipe o k. Liaphs: Oti den mporei enas trapeziths na xarazei kybernhtikh politikh.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. Den moy einai gnwstes tetoies dhlwseis toy k. Liaph.

BLAXOS: Dhmosiografos hsastan, jerete poly kala oti kanate th doyleia sas kai mesw diarrohs kyklwn.

ANTWNAROS: Den qa prosypegrafa ton isxyrismo poy molis diatypwsate, oson afora to proswpo moy kai ton tropo poy askoysa thn prohgoymenh idiothta, thn opoia eixa.

Sas eyxaristw.

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