Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-06-15

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 15 Ioynioy 2006

JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qewrei h kybernhsh oti oi diamartyries twn foithtwn kai oi katalhceis twn sxolwn einai ypokinoymenes;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh apodidei poly megalh shmasia sthn ejeyresh lysewn gia ta megala qemata ths Paideias sth bash ths synaineshs. Gi` ayton akribws to logo h kybernhsh, opws gnwrizete, exei kanei ena poly megalo dialogo, dialogo se baqos, dialogo se eyros, dialogo me th symmetoxh pollwn, apo oloys toys xwroys, prokeimenoy akribws na ejeyreqoyn aytes oi aparaithtes lyseis.

PALAIOLOGOS: Pws einai dynaton tote o Proedros toy Eqnikoy Symboylioy Paideias k. Beremhs na milaei gia ntahdes kai gia fasismo twn katalhciwn; Pws symbibazetai h qesh sas gia dialogo apo th mia me to gegonos oti xarakthrizete@

ANTWNAROS: O kaqenas exei to dikaiwma na ekferei th gnwmh toy. Alimono an sth Dhmokratia o kaqenas den mporei na pei ayto to opoio qelei me ton tropo poy o idios epilegei. Alimono an mono oi foithtes h mono oi kaqhghtes mporoyn na lene o,ti qeloyn, enw enas akadhmaikos kaqhghths megalhs aktinobolias kai dieqnoys epipedoy, opws o k. Beremhs, den epitrepetai na ekqetei th gnwmh toy. Me ayto poy sas eipa den ajiologw bebaia to ti leei o kaqenas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den epibarynetai omws o dialogos etsi;

ANTWNAROS: As mh baloyme sth zygaria ti epibarynei to dialogo. Shmasia exei na ginetai o dialogos, wste na ejeyreqoyn ekeines oi lyseis poy xreiazetai to ekpaideytiko mas systhma.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: H kybernhsh qewrei oti paei se dialogo me ntahdes kai fasistes;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

SIDERHS: Den jerw an h dikh moy h h dikh sas mnhmh einai asqenesterh. Milhsate gia symmetoxh. Egw qymamai oti enas-enas egkateleipan ayto to dialogo kai h kybernhsh emeine monh ths na nomoqetei. Poy ton eidate to dialogo;

ANTWNAROS: O dialogos egine kai malista se polla epipeda. H kybernhsh exei kalesei sto dialogo oloys toys foreis. Qa hqela na ypenqymisw, gia osoys den to gnwrizoyn, oti metajy twn allwn 20 fores peripoy synanthqhkan ekproswpoi ths politikhs hgesias toy ypoyrgeioy Paideias kai Qrhskeymatwn me ekproswpoys twn foithtwn kai twn spoydastwn poy organwsan ekdhlwseis me kateyqynsh to ypoyrgeio Paideias. Exei ginei ektenhs dialogos. Allwste me thn kataqesh toy prosxedioy thn epomenh ebdomada, gia dhmosia diaboyleysh, kati poy exoyme pei edw kai poly kairo, o dialogos, oi syzhthseis aytes qa synexistoyn. Kai thn eyqynh den thn exoyn apokleistika osoi kaloyn se dialogo, alla kai ekeinoi poy qa prepei na proselqoyn gia na symmetexoyn sto dialogo sta plaisia toy dhmokratikoy mas politeymatos.

KOTTARIDHS: Qa hqela ena sxolio sxetika me thn proqesh ths Toyrkias na zhthsei apozhmiwsh gia to toyrkiko aeroskafos to opoio epese sto tragiko dystyxhma ths Karpaqoy.

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete, yparxei apo xqes mia topoqethsh toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn. Symplhrwmatika qa hqela na pw oti oi aitiaseis poy ekfrazontai apo to toyrkiko ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn einai asthriktes. To ellhniko Epiteleio Aeroporias, opws sas einai allwste gnwsto, diereyna ta aitia toy tragikoy aytoy symbantos kata to opoio exase th zwh toy enas Ellhnas pilotos, enas neos anqrwpos. Symfwna me tis prwtes arxikes ektimhseis eyqynetai o Toyrkos pilotos me toys epikindynoys h an mh ti allo apeiroys eligmoys toys opoioys ekane.

BLAXOS: Qa zhthsoyme emeis apozhmiwsh kyrie Ekproswpe;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

BLAXOS: To katalaba, alla lew se periptwsh poy qa apodeixqei h eyqynh toy Toyrkoy pilotoy, qa zhthsoyme apozhmiwsh;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. O,ti eixa na pw gia to sygkekrimeno qema. to eipa.

SIDERHS: Eixate eji mhnes sthn kybernhsh kai eixe erqei empleos xaras o k. Roysopoylos kai mas eixe anakoinwsei ti aporrofhtikothta exoyme apo to G` Koinotiko Plaisio Sthrijhs. Bebaia, jexase na pei oti ekeinh h aporrofhtikothta htan me bash th doyleia kai thn ypodomh poy eixan kanei oi prohgoymenoi. Diabazw shmera oti ston prwto pentamhno toy 2006 exoyn aporrofhqei mono 585 ekatommyria, otan stoxos gia olo to 2006 htan 5,6 dis eyrw. Anikanothta yphresiwn, adiaforia h dikhs sas aneparkeia;

ANTWNAROS: Ekeino to opoio gnwrizw einai oti h aporrofhtikothta ta teleytaia dyo xronia -ap` oso qymamai xwris na exw proxeira ta akribh stoixeia- einai posostiaia poly ychloterh apo oti htan ta perasmena xronia. Qa moy epitrecete na enhmerwqw epakribws kai na sas apanthsw ayrio.

RABANOS: Epeidh anaferqhkate prin apo ligo sto dialogo gia thn paideia. To PASOK milhse gia dialogo ``parwdia''. Oson afora to asfalistiko dhlwse oti den qa symmetasxei sthn epitroph empeirognwmonwn gia thn anamorfwsh toy asfalistikoy systhmatos. Telika h kybernhsh qa kanei dialogo kai qa dwsei lysh mono me toys texnokrates;

ANTWNAROS: Profanws to PASOK gia mia akomh fora, den antapokrinetai sto rolo poy ofeilei na askei mesa sto dhmokratiko mas politeyma. Na metexei stis diadikasies. Na metexei se ekeina ta organa, ta opoia einai tagmena na diapistwsoyn ta problhmata kai se alles periptwseis na broyn lyseis. Orismenoi jexnoyn, fainetai, ti exoyme pei gia to asfalistiko qema. To sygkekrimeno organo apostolh exei na diapistwsei ta problhmata. To PASOK arneitai na metasxei se ena tetoio organo, wste na diapistwqoyn ta problhmata; Gia poio logo; Mhpws einai kai ayto mia akomh astoxh kinhsh entypwsiasmoy apo thn pleyra toy PASOK;

KOTTARIDHS: H kybernhsh skopeyei na dexqei thn protash twn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs gia th systash ejetastikhs epitrophs gia to qema twn Pakistanwn;

ANTWNAROS: H qesh ths kybernhshs einai safhs. Thn exoyme ekfrasei epaneilhmmenws. Oso brisketai se ejelijh h dikastikh diereynhsh toy qematos, den tiqetai tetoio qema.

SIDERHS: Einai nomotyph h apanthsh sas. To qema einai ti fobaste, giati den kanete thn ejetastikh epitroph, h opoia mporoyse na leitoyrghsei epibohqhtika sthn ereyna.

ANTWNAROS: To exoyme ejhghsei polles fores sto parelqon. Emeis exoyme empistosynh sthn ellhnikh dikaiosynh. Anamenoyme thn oloklhrwsh ths dikastikhs diereynhshs.

SIDERHS: Stis kalendes.

ANTWNAROS: Ayto einai sxolio sas. Ean ayth einai h ektimhsh poy exete gia thn ellhnikh dikaiosynh, lypamai gia sas.

SIDERHS: Jeroyme oti argei para poly h ellhnikh dikaiosynh.

ANTWNAROS: Oxi sxolia parakalw. Erwthsh exete;

KOTTARIDHS: Pws sxoliazete thn episkech ths toyrkikhs epitrophs enarmonishs me thn E.E. sth Qrakh;

ANTWNAROS: Exei topoqethqei ektenws ep` aytoy sth xqesinh enhmerwsh poy ekane o k. Koymoytsakos. Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo.

BLAXOS: O k. Gioynker o Prwqypoyrgos toy Loyjemboyrgoy dhlwse se gallikh efhmerida oti h E.E. qa prepei na pagwsei tis entajiakes diapragmateyseis me thn Toyrkia ean h Agkyra den anoijei ta limania kai ta aerodromia ths se kypriaka ploia kai aeroskafh. Symfwneite h oxi;

ANTWNAROS: H Toyrkia exei sygkekrimenes ypoxrewseis, oi opoies einai katagegrammenes. Einai ypoxrewseis tis opoies h Toyrkia -poy monh ths epeleje to dromo ths eyrwpaikhs prosarmoghs- prepei na efarmosei sto akeraio. Prepei, loipon, oles oi ypoxrewseis poy phgazoyn apo ayth thn epilogh ths Toyrkias, epilogh thn opoia -opws gnwrizete- h Ellada sto plaisio ths strathgikhs ths yposthrizei, na ginoyn prajh.

BLAXOS: Ayto einai to plaisio. O k. Gioynker kanei sygkekrimenh protash. Symfwneite;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa: H Toyrkia ofeilei na efarmosei oles tis desmeyseis gia tis opoies exei analabei sxetikh ypoxrewsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Tote pws apanta h kybernhsh sto diabhma twn Amerikanwn pros thn Kypro sxetika me th stash poy krathse ligo prin apo th Synodo toy Loyjemboyrgoy.

ANTWNAROS: Perimenete apo emena, ws ekproswpo ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, na sxoliasw diabhma poy feretai na ekane mia trith xwra pros allh xwra;

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi. Pws apanta h kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh den topoqeteitai se diabhma poy feretai na exei kanei mia kybernhsh pros allh kybernhsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, symfwnw. Alla den yparxei tetoio diabhma dhladh; Giati lete ``feretai''. Ara ayto shmainei oti den eiste apolyta bebaios oti yparxei tetoio diabhma.

ANTWNAROS: Ws ekproswpos ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, exw plhrofories kyriws gia osa symbainoyn sthn ellhnikh epikrateia.

PALAIOLOGOS: Mia deyterh erwthsh ep` aytoy, giati den apanthsate sthn prohgoymenh erwthsh toy synadelfoy: Qewreite oti h episkech sth Qrakh toy k. Giaser Giakis, synista proklhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Edwse ektenestath apanthsh o k. Koymoytsakos, h opoia kai apotelei topoqethsh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai. Egw anarwtiemai omws an yparxoyn foboi ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs gi` ayth thn episkech, gia tyxon probokatsies.

ANTWNAROS: Exei apanthsei ektenws o k. Koymoytsakos. Sas parapempw ekei.

MPALHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe exw dyo erwthseis: Kat` arxas qelw to sxolio sas, gia to oti xqes to PASOK eqese qema poinikwn eyqynwn kai gia thn prosfora poy exei kanei h Credit Agricole gia thn Emporikh alla kai gia to qema ths Finance Bank. Qelw to sxolio sas ep` aytoy.

ANTWNAROS: Den jerw -kai pali- giati to PASOK katafeygei se tetoia pyrotexnhmata xwris kanena antikrisma, xwris kanena oysiastiko periexomeno. Qa kaloysa loipon osoys apo to PASOK katafeygoyn se tetoies kinhseis entypwsiasmoy na janadiabasoyn poly prosektika ti akribws exei dhlwsei o armodios ypoyrgos Oikonomias k. Alogoskoyfhs.

MPALHS: Kai h deyterh erwthsh: Eipate prin apo ligo, gia tis ypoxrewseis poy exei analabei h Toyrkia enanti ths E.E. Ypoxrewsh omws ths Toyrkias htan na efarmosei kai tis symfwnies poy ypegrace prosfata h k. Mpakogiannh me ton k. Gkioyl. Telika to moratorioym den qa isxysei apo 1h Ioylioy, dioti oi Toyrkoi jekinane kanonika tis askhseis. Exei h kybernhsh kapoio sxolio ep` aytoy;

ANTWNAROS: Jerw oti exei symfwnhqei mia seira metrwn sto plaisio ayto twn syzhthsewn, poy eixe h k. Mpakogiannh me ton k. Gkioyl. Bebaiws, otan symfwneitai kati, anamenoyme oti ayto poy symfwnhqhke qa thrhqei kiolas.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: H kybernhsh tassetai me thn apoch toy k. Polydwra oti ta MAT sthn prohgoymenh poreia htan ``akinhta stratiwtakia'' kai malista ``hrwika'';

ANTWNAROS: H ellhnikh astynomia exei analabei mia sygkekrimenh, dyskolh apostolh. H ellhnikh astynomia exei amyntikh topoqethsh kai exei thn apostolh na perifroyrei tis zwes, tis perioysies olwn twn Ellhnwn politwn kai na frontizei wste na threitai o nomos. Elpizw oti osoi organwnoyn diafores ekdhlwseis, qa antapokriqoyn kai sthn ypoxrewsh thn opoia exoyn oi idioi, na perifroyroyn tis ekdhlwseis poy diorganwnoyn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ap` oti katalabainw, edw rixnete h mallon qa elega prosaptete mia momfh stoys foithtes, oti den perifroyroyn sto metro toy dynatoy tis organwseis poy exoyn, enw antiqeta emfanizete teleiws aqwoys toys praetor urbanis. Dhladh;

ANTWNAROS: Proswpika den apeyqynw kamia momfh se kanenan. Lew to aytonohto. Oti opws h astynomia exei thn eyqynh, exei thn ypoxrewsh na kanei ayto to opoio sas eipa prohgoymenws, sto plaisio ths apostolhs ths, etsi kai osoi organwnoyn diafores ekdhlwseis, opws kai na tis apokalesete, exoyn kai aytoi oxi mono thn eyqynh alla kai thn ypoxrewsh na ejasfalizoyn mia apotelesmatikh perifroyrhsh.

PAPAMIXAHL: To nomosxedio telika gia tis allages sthn Tritobaqmia Ekpaideysh qa katateqei to Septembrio apo to ypoyrgeio Paideias sth Boylh h molis oloklhrwqei o dialogos; Kai hqela na rwthsw: Qa apeyqynei to ypoyrgeio Paideias prosklhsh pros toys foreis, pros toys ekpaideytikoys, na kaqisoyn sto trapezi toy dialogoy;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Roysopoylos, proxqes, an den me apata h mnhmh moy, periegrace me megalh akribeia ti akribws qa ginei. Thn epomenh ebdomada, qa doqei se dhmosia diaboyleysh to prosxedio. Ayto to prosxedio einai to apaygasma twn synennohsewn, toy dialogoy, twn epafwn poy exoyn ginei mexri twra. H dhmosia diaboyleysh, opws eipe o k. Roysopoylos epi lejei, qa synexistei oso xreiastei. Synepws, xronikos orizontas ayth th stigmh den yparxei.

SIDERHS: Ara, meta tis dhmotikes, qelete na peite, o xronikos orizontas.

ANTWNAROS: Egw sas lew oti den yparxei xronikos orizontas kai eseis bazete monos sas xroniko orizonta.

PALAIOLOGOS: Apo th stigmh poy h kybernhsh, to ypoyrgeio Paideias, h kybernhsh genikotera, exei peistei gia thn orqothta toy nomosxedioy, opws lete kai mexri twra toylaxiston ayto poy koybentiazotan genikotera sto dhmosio dialogo, protiqetai na to kataqesei, gia poio logo to pairnei pisw; H toylaxiston gia poio logo to anabalei ws twra;

ANTWNAROS: Egw den briskw na ``pairnei pisw'' tipota h kybernhsh. Sas parakalw na diabasete ti eixe pei akribws h k. Giannakoy, se synenteyjh poy eixe paraxwrhsei ton perasmeno Febroyario, dhladh prin apo tesseris mhnes, stoys antapokrites Jenoy Typoy. An qelete na sas th dwsw.

PAPADHMHTRIOY: Wstoso, oi foithtes den kanoyn pisw kai zhtoyn thn plhrh aposyrsh toy nomosxedioy. Problhmatizei ayto thn kybernhsh; Qa antidrasei me kapoio tropo;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh, opws sas eipa, qa dwsei thn epomenh ebdomada to prosxedio -to opoio qa exei etoimastei mexri tote- se dhmosia diaboyleysh. Kai qelw na exw thn basimh elpida, qa elega thn pepoiqhsh, oti kai oi foithtes qa syneisferoyn epoikodomhtika tis apoceis toys.

Sas eyxaristw.

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