Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-05-22

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 22 Maioy 2006

JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

O Prwqypoyrgos synanthqhke shmera sto Megaro Majimoy, me toys Prytaneis twn Anwtatwn Ekpaideytikwn Idrymatwn. Sth synanthsh symmeteixan, epishs, h armodia Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Paideias kai Qrhskeymatwn k. Giannakoy kai o yfypoyrgos k. Taliadoyros. Oi Prytaneis eqesan ston Prwqypoyrgo, ola ta zhthmata poy apasxoloyn ta A.E.I. Diapistwqhke taytish apocewn ws pros toys basikoys ajones kai tis arxes ths politikhs gia ta A.E.I. Oloi qeloyme Panepisthmia me anoixtoys orizontes, me diasfalismenh ychlh poiothta spoydwn kai ereynas, Panepisthmia me dieqnes kyros poy mporoyn kai ajiopoioyn tis synergasies entos kai ektos Elladas. Qeloyme Panepisthmia poy qa einai epiteloys se qesh na ajiopoihsoyn to terastio anqrwpino dynamiko twn Ellhnidwn kai Ellhnwn episthmonwn poy diaprepoyn shmera sto ejwteriko.

Qelw, epishs, me ayth thn eykairia na tonisw oti gia prwth fora fetos, oi proypologismoi gia ta Panepisthmia einai ayjhmenoi kata 13,5%. Bebaiws, menoyn polla akoma na ginoyn, omws kai apo mono toy ayto to stoixeio deixnei oti h kybernhsh kineitai pros th swsth kateyqynsh.

O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs anaxwrei shmera gia to Parisi, prokeimenoy na proedreysei sthn ethsia synodo toy OOSA h opoia ginetai ayrio kai meqayrio sth gallikh prwteyoysa. Opws einai gnwsto, ton Ioylio toy 2005, apofasisthke h anaqesh ths fetinhs proedrias ths ethsias synodoy toy Organismoy Oikonomikhs Synergasias kai Anaptyjhs. Shmeiwnetai oti h Ellada eixe proedreysei gia teleytaia fora sthn ethsia synodo toy OOSA to 1976, dhladh prin apo 30 xronia. To kentriko qema ths fetinhs ethsias synodoy toy OOSA einai ``H enisxysh ths eyhmerias pagkosmiws''. Dhladh, ena qema, poy apasxolei th dieqnh koinothta, akribws logw ths sobarothtas toy. Sta plaisia ths synodoy -h opoia opws sas eipa, arxizei ayrio- qa ekfrastoyn apoceis gia to syntonismo twn prospaqeiwn gia thn enisxysh ths pagkosmias anaptyjhs. H Ellada, kata thn proetoimasia ths synodoy, synebale apofasistika sth diamorfwsh twn qematwn poy qa syzhthqoyn. Opws allwste qa deite kai sto programma toy tajidioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy -poy anakoinwqhke me leptomereies apo to Grafeio Typoy toy Prwqypoyrgoy- o k. Karamanlhs qa proedreysei stis ypoyrgikes synodoys thn Trith kai thn Tetarth. Parallhla, sto plaisio ths fetinhs synodoy toy OOSA, qa yparjei kai eidikh ekdhlwsh me thn pragmatopoihsh enos foroym opoy oi omilhtes qa ekfrasoyn tis apoceis toys sto erwthma ths epoxhs ``poies einai oi isorropies sthn pagkosmiopoihsh''.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

BLAXOS: Gia to panepisthmiako asylo, qa yparjei allagh;

ANTWNAROS: Otan yparjei kati, qa sas anakoinwqei.

BLAXOS: Den apanthse dhladh o Prwqypoyrgos sto aithma twn Prytanewn;

ANTWNAROS: Eipa o,ti eixa na sas pw gia tis syzhthseis.

KORAH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, exw dyo-tria erwthmata anaforika me to prwtoselido ths ``Kyriakatikhs Eleyqerotypias''. H kybernhsh epibebaiwnei thn yparjh diamerismatos sto Syntagma poy leitoyrgoyse en eidei giafkas kata th diarkeia twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn apo thn EYP, h opoia ekei metefere Pakistanoys kai alloys allodapoys gia anakriseis;

ANTWNAROS: Opws enhmerwqhka armodiws, h EYP oyte eixe oyte exei tetoies egkatastaseis san aytes poy anaferontai sto dhmosieyma.

KORAH: Pws ejhgeite to gegonos oti to sygkekrimeno diamerisma jenoikiasthke otan jespase h ypoqesh twn Pakistanwn;

ANTWNAROS: Den mporw fysika na gnwrizw giati noikiazetai h jenoikiazetai ena diamerisma sto kentro ths Aqhnas, opws moy lete. Sas eipa pantws poies einai oi plhrofories poy exw, tis opoies kai sas kataqetw.

KORAH: To Layrio xrhsimopoihqhke gia analoges drasthriothtes;

ANTWNAROS: Den exei kamia paroysia ekei h EYP.

BLAXOS: Den exei paroysia se ena meros poy einai limani kai mpainobgainei kosmos;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

BLAXOS: Einai allo to erwthma ths k. synadelfoy kai allo to diko moy. Lete oti den exei kamia paroysia h EYP sto Layrio. Ma, to Layrio einai enas kombos, mpainei kosmos, bgainei kosmos, mporei na mpei kapoios o opoios na xreiazetai na ton parakoloyqhsei h EYP, giati aytos einai o rolos ths kai mas lete oti den exei kamia paroysia h EYP sto Layrio;

ANTWNAROS: Apodidete sthn EYP roloys, toys opoioys den exei. Den prokeitai na kanw kanena allo sxolio, pera apo osa sas eipa.

BLAXOS: O k. Roysopoylos poy htan kata th diarkeia ths brabeyshs toy sygkrothmatos poy kerdise sth Eurovision;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Roysopoylos pragmati eixe thn proqesh na epidwsei to brabeio. Kaq@ odon pros th skhnh, perase apo ta paraskhnia prokeimenoy na sygxarei kai na milhsei me thn Anna Bissh poy, opws gnwrizete, ekproswpoyse thn Ellada. Egine mia koybenta ekei, perase kamposos xronos kai gia na mhn yparjei thleoptiko keno, thn aponomh ekane o Proedros ths ERT k. Xrhstos Panagopoylos. Opws gnwrizete, allwste, h metadosh ginotan apeyqeias se olo ton kosmo kai akribws, giati den mporoyse na yparjei tetoia kaqysterhsh, ekane thn aponomh o k. Panagopoylos. Allwste, organwths ths ekdhlwshs, opws symbainei se oles tis xwres, einai h dhmosia thleorash.

BLAXOS: Alla, h dhmosia thleorash den htan sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, otan o k. Roysopoylos eipe, oti mesa ston apologismo toy ypoyrgeioy toy, htan kai h nikh ths k. Paparizoy. Mhpws qewroyse o k. Roysopoylos oti mia fwtografia toy me ayta ta terata, qa htan ena meion sthn proeklogikh toy stadiodromia;

ANTWNAROS: Kyrie Blaxo, ti einai ayta poy lete; Aytes einai dikes sas ermhneies. Sas parakalw para poly. Apodidete shmasia se ena gegonos poy den exei pragmatika kamia barythta.

BLAXOS: Ma, pws, exei megalh shmasia, ekproswpeitai h xwra.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

BLAXOS: Exei poly megalh shmasia ayto, na emfanizetai h xwra mas na mhn ekproswpeitai apo enan ypoyrgo.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Pws sxoliazete ta apotelesmata twn kypriakwn eklogwn;

ANTWNAROS: Alimono, an sxoliasw tis dhmokratikes diadikasies se mia xwra ths E.E.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Exoyn shmasia gia tis peraiterw ejelijeis sto Kypriako, omws, aytes oi ekloges.

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na sxoliasw thn eleyqerh politikh ekfrash toy kypriakoy laoy.

KAKALHS: Mas lete, dhladh, oti se mia kata ta alla acogh diorganwsh, opws ayth ths Eurovision, o k. Roysopoylos kaqise sta paraskhnia;

ANTWNAROS: Den sas eipa ayto. Sas ejhghsa oti yphrje mia mikrh kaqysterhsh. Kai epeidh o thleoptikos xronos einai ameiliktos -kai ayto to jeroyn para poly kala osoi einai edw parontes kai asxoloyntai me ta thleoptika pragmata- thn aponomh thn ekane o k. Panagopoylos. En pash periptwsei, den nomizw oti yparxei kaneis o opoios na amfisbhtei oti h diorganwsh htan acogh. Prokeitai gia mia shmantikh moysikh ekdhlwsh, thn opoia parakoloyqhsan merikes ekatontades ekatommyria thleqeates se olh thn Eyrwph. Mia ekdhlwsh poy eixe organwqei me acogo tropo. O apologismos, opws ton blepoyme shmera, 36 wres meta, einai qetikos apo kaqe apoch kai kyriws oson afora sthn probolh ths xwras mas sto ejwteriko.

KAKALHS: Ta terata ths Finlandias mhpws einai o nikhths poy ajize se mia tetoia kakogoysth kai kakasxhmh parastash, opws h Gioyrobizion;

ANTWNAROS: Ayth einai mia proswpikh sas ajiologikh topoqethsh. Egw, bebaiws, den exw kanena dikaiwma na amfisbhthsw to dikaiwma poy exete na kanete kriseis. As mhn jexname, omws, oti chfisthke ena sygkekrimeno tragoydi, to opoio meteixe me isoys oroys sto sygkekrimeno diagwnismo, o opoios, opws sas eipa, einai mia moysikh ekdhlwsh.

SARANTAKOS: Diabasa kapoy oti h ERT eipe oti ta ejoda gia th Gioyrobizion einai gyrw sta 12 ekat. eyrw kai ypologizei ta esoda gyrw sta 100 ekat. eyrw. Apo poy prokyptei ayto to noymero;

ANTWNAROS: Kat` arxas, h ERT den exei kanei kamia tetoia dhlwsh.

SARANTAKOS: Yparxoyn dhmosieymata ta opoia den exoyn diaceystei.

ANTWNAROS: Dhmosieymata yparxoyn para polla. Egw ekeino to opoio gnwrizw einai oti o Proedros ths ERT k. Xrhstos Papagopoylos, tis epomenes hmeres, qa dwsei mia synenteyjh sthn opoia kai qa paroysiasei to synoliko apologismo. Ta prwta stoixeia poy yparxoyn einai oti o apologismos aytos qa einai qetikos. Alla, to isozygio mias tetoias ekdhlwshs, opws sas eipa kai proxqes, den apotimatai mono me tetoia aysthra, periorismenhs antilhchs, noymera. To Sabbato to brady, se dekades xwres ths Eyrwphs, an oxi se oles, gia peripoy treis wres, me konta 30 spots, paroysiazotan h Ellada sth glwssa ths kaqe xwras. Me spots gia ta opoia den nomizw oti kaneis exei amfibolia oti htan para poly qetika gia thn probolh kai thn eikona ths xwras mas. Ton thleoptiko ayto xrono, akomh ki an qelei na ton agorasei kaneis, den mporei na ton agorasei. Epeidh epikalesthkate de shmerina dhmosieymata MME, xwris na shmainei oti egw mporw apo ayth th qesh na elegjw th basimothta toy posoy poy qa sas pw, anaferetai oti ayth th diafhmish, ean hqele kaneis na thn agorasei, qa kostize 250 ekat. eyrw. Ayto den prepei kaneis na to synypologisei, an mh ti allo;

SARANTAKOS: Fantazomai oti ola ayta poy lete den anairoyn thn ypoxrewsh enos kratikoy forea na dwsei enan apologismo gia to poy phgan ta xrhmata toy ellhnikoy laoy.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti ayto qa ginei tis epomenes hmeres. Ypomonh loipon.

SARANTAKOS: Olo ayto to diasthma giname martyres, mesa apo tis thleoraseis, gia probes poy eginan gia na paei teleia ayth h bradia. Qelete na moy peite oti o k. Roysopoylos den eixe eikona gia to pote eprepe na shkwqei apo th qesh toy na paei na brabeysei to nikhth, o opoios endexomenws na htan kai h ellhnikh ypochfiothta;

ANTWNAROS: Prospaqeite na megalopoihsete ena qema to opoio den exei kamia apolytws shmasia.

SIDERHS: Qewreite oti apo kapoia ta stelexh sas kai apo merida toy Typoy synteleitai mia diadikasia anqrwpofagias ths k. Karaxasan;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa exw pei gia thn k. Karaxasan. Kaqe Ellhnas poliths exei to dikaiwma to eklegein kai eklegesqai.

SIDERHS: Qelete na embaqynete perissotero sthn apanthsh sas;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

IWANNOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes akoysame apo ekproswpo ths ``Toyrkikhs Enwshs Janqhs'' na leei oti einai melos ths h k. Karaxasan ayths ths Enwshs, qa hqela na rwthsw, ean pisteyete eseis ws kybernhsh oti tetoies prwtoboylies, estw kai ypochfiwn nomarxwn, dhmioyrgoyn problhma.

ANTWNAROS: Sas exw pei oti gia thn kybernhsh einai apolyta sebastes oi dieqneis synqhkes, to Syntagma, oi nomoi kai oi apofaseis toy Areioy Pagoy.

BLAXOS: Kai h ypografh toy k. Axmet ws melos ths Toyrkikhs Enwshs Qrakhs, o opoios einai boyleyths;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa, molis.

BLAXOS: Dhladh, enas boyleyths toy ellhnikoy Koinoboylioy, boyleyths toy kommatos poy kyberna, mporei na einai kai melos ths Toyrkikhs Enwshs Qrakhs; Exei to dikaiwma;

ANTWNAROS: Epanerxomai se ayto poy sas exw pei, kat` epanalhch: Oti dhladh kaqe boyleyths eklegmenos apo ton ellhniko lao exei bebaiws to dikaiwma na ekfrazei tis proswpikes toy apoceis kai na metexei sto dhmosio dialogo me thn proypoqesh oti sebetai ayta poy sas eipa akribws prohgoymenws: To Syntagma, toys nomoys, tis dieqneis synqhkes kai tis apofaseis toy Areioy Pagoy.

BLAXOS: Pws sebetai to ellhniko Syntagma otan einai melos ths Toyrkikhs Enwshs Qrakhs;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

BLAXOS: Katalaba ti eipate. Pws sebetai o k. Axmet to ellhniko Syntagma;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo panw se ayto.

POYLIDOY: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean problhmatizei thn kybernhsh to apotelesma toy dhmochfismatos sto Mayroboynio.

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw, gi` ayto to qema na apeyqynqeite sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

POYLIDOY: H reystothta sta Balkania afora thn kybernhsh synolika, oxi mono to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh symballei me oles tis dynameis, sth diathrhsh klimatos staqerothtas, hremias kai eirhnhs se olh thn perioxh. Exei analabei polles prwtoboylies. Polles apo aytes tis prwtoboylies briskontai se ejelijh. As mhn jexname oti h Ellada kai me thn oikonomikh ths paroysia se aytes tis geitonikes xwres, symballei shmantika wste na parameinei staqerh h katastash. Apo thn allh pleyra, den prokeitai na ypodeijoyme emeis ws xwra se ena lao ths Balkanikhs pws qa ekfrasei th boylhsh toy. Gia perissotera se ayto to qema, parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

KYRITSHS: O k. Alabanos dhlwse oti epanakataqetei thn erwthsh toy pros ton Prwqypoyrgo, giati ayta poy eipe o k. Polydwras den ton kalyptan. Qa paei thn Paraskeyh o Prwqypoyrgos sth Boylh na apanthsei;

ANTWNAROS: H apanthsh poy edwse o k. Polydwras kalyptei apolytws thn kybernhsh.

KYRITSHS: Dhladh, o Prwqypoyrgos qewrei oti oi polites mias filhs xwras poy htan edw kai o Prwqypoyrgos ths, thn perasmenh ebdomada, exoyn gia xompi tis apagwges. Ayth htan h apanthsh. Den yphrxe allh apanthsh. Thn Paraskeyh mas dwsete apanthsh epiferomenwn dhlwsewn. Exw to briefing. Apanthsate sto oti feretai na eipe. Se ayto apanthsate thn Paraskeyh. Twra, omws, einai safes ti eipe o k. Polydwras.

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw o,ti eipa kai thn Paraskeyh: Oti o k. Polydwras paroysiase parametroys mias symperiforas mias sygkekrimenhs omadas, h opoia exei diapistwqei edw apo tis ellhnikes diwktikes arxes. Kai epeidh moy kanate thn idia akribws erwthsh, tonizw oti ayto den prodikazei th dikastikh ereyna.

KYRITSHS: Den eipa ayto.

ANTWNAROS: H dikastikh ereyna qa synexistei kai elpizoyme syntoma na exoyme ta apotelesmata ths.

KYRITSHS: Sygnwmh, egw rwthsa ean o Prwqypoyrgos pisteyei oti oi Pakistanoi exoyn gia xompi tis apagwges. Ayto rwthsa.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti h topoqethsh toy ypoyrgoy Dhmosias Tajhs k. Polydwra einai qesh ths kybernhshs.

IWANNOY: Syndeei h kybernhsh to ena gegonos, dhladh, ayta ta stoixeia poy kateqese o k. Polydwras, me tis sygkekrimenes apagwges poy kataggelloyn orismenoi Pakistanoi;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa eipe o k. Polydwras. Peran toytoy oyden.

BLAXOS: Ara, kanete ereyna gia na breite poioi einai oi apagwgeis, metajy twn Pakistanwn;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

POYLIDOY: Qelw na rwthsw afoy einai eqniko xarakthristiko twn Pakistanwn oi apagwges@

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa eqniko xarakthristiko. Eipa oti einai parametroi mias symperiforas.

POYLIDOY: Eseis eipate oti sas kalyptei apolytws h dhlwsh toy k. Polydwra, o opoios eipe oti einai ``eqniko xompi''. Rwtw, loipon, ean qa parei metra h kybernhsh kata ths pakistanikhs meionothtas, poy brisketai sthn Ellada.

ANTWNAROS: Me bash thn ellhnikh nomoqesia, opote prokyptei h anagkh na lhfqoyn metra, ayta lambanontai. Opote prokyptoyn tetoies periptwseis, oi ellhnikes diwktikes arxes kanoyn ayto poy epitassei h ellhnikh nomoqesia. Briskomaste sthn Ellada. Ara, efarmozoyme toys ellhnikoys nomoys.

BLAXOS: Ara, ginetai ereyna, ayto mas lete.

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa tipota tetoio.

BLAXOS: Ginetai ereyna, loipon, gia na diapistwqei poioi Pakistanoi ekanan aytes tis apagwges h oxi;

ANTWNAROS: Thn ereyna, opws sas exw ejhghsei epaneilhmmenws, den thn kanei h kybernhsh. Thn ereyna, ayth th stigmh, thn kanei h dikastikh ejoysia, h dikaiosynh.

BLAXOS: Se baros toy k. Boylgarakh, omws.

ANTWNAROS: Profanws, den exete antilhfqei ola osa exoyme pei aytes tis hmeres. H dikaiosynh diereyna se baqos ayth thn ypoqesh.

BLAXOS: Pws sxoliazete th synenteyjh toy k. Alogoskoyfh oti kapoioi ypoyrgoi prospaqoyn na broyn alloqi gia thn aneparkeia toys yposthrizontas oti den toys dinei lefta gia na kanoyn ergo sto ypoyrgeio toys. Poioi einai aytoi oi ypoyrgoi;

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, qa sas parakaloysa na apodidete akribws osa exei pei se mia synenteyjh o ypoyrgos, ston opoio anafereste. Deyteron, qelw na sas pw oti politikes prwtoboylies den shmainei aparaithta oti prepei apokleistika kai mono na dapanwntai olo kai perissotera xrhmata. Shmasia exei ayta ta xrhmata na dapanwntai me tropo apotelesmatiko, pros ofelos olwn twn Ellhnwn politwn.

BLAXOS: Afhnete dhladh aixmh enantion ypoyrgwn oti den xrhsimopoioyn xrhmata apotelesmatika.

ANTWNAROS: Kamia aixmh. Kanw mia genikh topoqethsh. Ta xrhmata poy exei pros diaqesh ths kaqe xwra -kai fysika to ellhniko dhmosio- einai dedomena. Ayta, loipon, ta xrhmata prepei na diatiqentai me tetoio tropo, wste na wfeloyntai oi Ellhnes polites me ton pio apotelesmatiko tropo.

BLAXOS: Ayto den to kanoyn oloi oi ypoyrgoi.

ANTWNAROS: Den eipa tipota apo osa moy apodidete. Diabaste prosektika th synenteyjh toy k. Alogoskoyfh. O k. Alogoskoyfhs se ayton ton tomea exei allwste rolo syntonistoy.

SIDERHS: Epeidh exoyn perasei dyo xronia kai kati, mhpws ephlqe to plhrwma to xronoy, na ginete pio sygkekrimenos stis apanthseis sas kai na mhn mas fernete ws apanthseis tis genikes arxes; Giati panta genikes arxes mas lete, otan sas rwtame epi sygkekrimenwn qematwn.

ANTWNAROS: Apantw panta me safhneia.

SIDERHS: Asxeta apo to prohgoymeno.

ANTWNAROS: Eilikrina den jerw poy akribws anafereste. Qa prepei na anaferqeite se kati eidiko gia na sas apanthsw eidika. Ean me rwtate genika, qa sas apantw genika.

SIDERHS: Sas rwthsa kati eidiko gia thn k. Karaxasan kai den apanthsate.

ANTWNAROS: Bebaiws sas apanthsa.

SIDERHS: Eiste ypologos gia stelexh sas.

ANTWNAROS: Ma, me rwthsate kati gia thn k. Karaxasan.

SIDERHS: Kai to pws thn katakreoyrgoyn merida twn MME, alla kai kapoia stelexh sas. O k. Papaqemelhs, as poyme, einai boyleyths sas.

ANTWNAROS: O k. Papaqemelhs einai anejarthtos boyleyths.

SARANTAKOS: Qewreite oti einai kairos h Nea Dhmokratia kai to PASOK na skeftontai to endexomeno kybernhsewn synergasias sthn Ellada;

ANTWNAROS: Giati to lete ayto;

SARANTAKOS: Giati akoysa ton epitimo Proedro ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Mhtsotakh.

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete den sxoliazw dhlwseis toy epitimoy Proedroy ths Neas Dhmokratias.

SARANTAKOS: Apanthste moy se ayto poy sas rwthsa sthn arxh: Ean qewreite, ws ekproswpos ths kybernhshs, oti hrqe o kairos na arxisei na skeptetai h Nea Dhmokratia kai to PASOK to endexomeno kybernhsewn synergasias sto mellon.

ANTWNAROS: Den blepw kati tetoio.

IWANNOY: Ektima h kybernhsh h skeftetai na allajei to neo eklogiko nomo, protoy efarmostei, prokeimenoy na mh breqei endexomenws mprosta se ena senario akybernhsias;

ANTWNAROS: Sas parakalw para poly, mhn protrexete.

IWANNOY: Lene oti einai piqano ayto to senario, dhladh mh aytodynamias. Gi` ayto sas rwtw.

ANTWNAROS: Exoyme ikano xrono na dianysoyme mexri tis epomenes ekloges. To ergo ths kybernhshs ths Neas Dhmokratias apodidei sygkekrimenoys karpoys. Sto telos ths tetraetias, asfalws, o ellhnikos laos, poy jerei kai ektima tis pragmatikes prospaqeies kai to apotelesmatiko ergo poy kanei h Nea Dhmokratia, qa anagnwrisei emprakta thn apotelesmatikothta toy synolikoy ergoy mas.

KYRITSHS: To teleytaio trihmero-tetrahmero, exoyn skotwqei sto Afganistan 200 atoma ek twn opoiwn h syntriptikh pleionothta amaxoi. Qelw na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh skeftetai to endexomeno na aposyrei apo to strato katoxhs thn ellhnikh dynamh wste na mh ginetai symmetoxos se ayta ta egklhmata.

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, den symfwnw me toys oroys toys opoioys xrhsimopoieite, alla einai dikoi sas@.

KYRITSHS: Stratos katoxhs den einai kyrie Ekproswpe;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti egw den symfwnw me toys oroys poy xrhsimopoieite alla dikh sas einai h orologia, dikh sas h diatypwsh ths erwthshs, alla egw qelw na einai katagegrammeno oti den symfwnw me toys oroys toys opoioys xrhsimopoieite. Deyteron, den exw kamia plhroforia gia allagh ths stashs poy akoloyqoyn oi ellhnikes kybernhseis ta teleytaia xronia sto sygkekrimeno qema.

KAKALHS: Pws sxoliazete to gegonos oti sth syntriptikh pleiochfia ths koinhs gnwmhs exei edraiwqei h antilhch oti yparxoyn ashmantes mono diafores metajy ths kybernhshs kai toy PASOK se antiqesh me ayta poy leei synexeia o Prwqypoyrgos, oti den eimaste oloi idioi. To akribws antiqeto pisteyei h syntriptikh pleiochfia ths koinhs gnwmhs.

ANTWNAROS: Egw ekeino to opoio blepw einai oti h syntriptikh pleiochfia ths koinhs gnwmhs yposthrizei to metarryqmistiko ergo ths kybernhshs, sygkrinei kai parexei thn empistosynh ths sto komma ths Neas Dhmokratias kai sth shmerinh kybernhsh.

KAKALHS: Ayto to exete janapei alla den prokyptei apo poyqena.

ANTWNAROS: Qa epibebaiwqei otan erqei h wra.

BLAXOS: Exei jeshkwqei o kosmos enantion toy Iran gia thn proqesh toy na ftiajei ena pyrhniko ergostasio paragwghs hlektrikhs energeias. Skeftetai twra h kybernhsh na analabei prwtoboylia se dieqnes epipedo enantion ths proqeshs ths Toyrkias na dhmioyrghsei sta paralia pyrhniko ergostasio;

ANTWNAROS: H erwthsh janaegine thn perasmenh ebdomada. Isxyei h apanthsh poy edwsa kai qa sas parakaloysa aplws, kai esas k. Blaxo, otan diatypwnete mia erwthsh, na perilambanete pragmatika peristatika kai stoixeia ta opoia na antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta. H dieqnhs koinh gnwmh anhsyxei gia alla pragmata oson afora sth symperifora toy Iran.

BLAXOS: Dhladh eiste yper ths dhmioyrgias pyrhnikoy ergostasioy energeias.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa eipa thn perasmenh ebdomada. Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate sthn arxh, oti yphrje taytish apocewn toy k. Karamanlh me toys prytaneis. Dhladh, h diatajh gia ta idiwtika panepisthmia sthn opoia antidroyn oi prytaneis, qa afaireqei apo tis diatajeis toy nomosxedioy;

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw epi lejei oti sas eipa. Diapistwqhke taytish apocewn ws pros toys basikoys ajones kai tis arxes ths politikhs gia ta A.E.I. Apomonwnete ena qema to opoio den einai to mono qema poy syzhthqhke. Den jerw kan an syzhthqhke metajy toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai twn Prytanewn. En pash periptwsei, h kybernhsh exei kanei sygkekrimenh protash, h opoia ejakoloyqei na isxyei kai qa syzhthqei, opws gnwrizete, sto dialogo poy qa ginei sth Boylh gia thn Anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos.

BLAXOS: Me dedomeno oti ston apologismo toy ergoy twn ypoyrgeiwn, exei ginei anafora sthn prwtia ths k. Paparizoy. Twra qa ginei anafora sto gegonos oti h k. Bissh phre thn enath qesh;

ANTWNAROS: Kyrie Blaxo, exete thn tash na apomonwnete ena sygkekrimeno symban. Eimai bebaios omws oti asfalws qa ginei anafora sthn acogh diorganwsh, mia akomh diorganwsh enos poly megaloy kai polyepipedoy gegonotos poy egine me epityxia sth xwra mas. Ayto einai kati gia to opoio den nomizw oti yparxei kaneis Ellhnas poy den prepei na einai yperhfanos.

BLAXOS: Eseis eipate oti th diorganwsh thn kanei h ERT. Ara eprepe to brabeio na to dwsei o proedros ths ERT.

ANTWNAROS: Exete emmones stis opoies den mporw na sas parakoloyqhsw. Mexri prin apo liga xronia kathgoroysan th xwra mas oti den eixe organwtikes ikanothtes kai dynatothtes. Mas apokaloysan xwra toy aytosxediasmoy. Exoyme apodeijei ta teleytaia xronia oti kai kala organwtika prosonta diaqetoyme kai megales ekdhlwseis mporoyme na diorganwnoyme. Etsi ejyphretoyme ta eqnika symferonta me thn ennoia ths probolhs ths xwras mas sto ejwteriko, giati kai h probolh ths xwras mas sto ejwteriko, to eqniko synolo ejyphretei. Sas eipa kai prohgoymenws oti poly spania mia xwra exei th dynatothta na proballetai se toses polles xwres kai malista se wres poly ychlhs akroamatikothtas oxi mono sto eyrwpaika thleoptika diktya, alla kai se thleoptika diktya ektos Eyrwphs. Ayto den mporei na to paragnwrisei kaneis.

KAKALHS: Me thn eykairia, pote qa mas peite, poso stoixhsan oi Olympiakoi Agwnes;

ANTWNAROS: O apologismos exei ginei. Epanalambanw oti ta noymera kai oi ariqmoi den apodidoyn thn wfeleia poy exei mia xwra apo mia tetoia megalh organwsh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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