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Aqhna, 1 Noembrioy 2005

TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Sas kalwsorizw ki egw apo thn pleyra moy sthn kainoyrgia aiqoysa enhmerwshs kai xairomai poy sas blepw oloys edw.

Shmera to prwi synedriase, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh, h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, h opoia syzhthse kai enekrine to sxedio nomoy peri hlektronikwn epikoinwniwn. To nomosxedio, poy qa ypobalei pros chfish sth Boylh o Ypoyrgos Metaforwn k. Liaphs, exei th morfh oloklhrwmenoy katastatikoy xarth twn epikoinwniwn kai enarmonizei to qesmiko plaisio ths xwras me tis yfistamenes odhgies ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, me stoxo ton eksygxronismo toy topioy ston tomea twn thlepikoinwniwn. Prokeitai gia allages poy anoigoyn to dromo gia to mellon. Oi thlepikoinwnies, opws asfalws oloi gnwrizete, me ton taxytato ryqmo poy anaptyssontai pagkosmia, einai aparaithth proypoqesh gia thn anaptyjh ths xwras, thn wqhsh ths oikonomias pros ta empros, alla -kai ayto den qa prepei na to jexasei kaneis- anabaqmizoyn kai th zwh twn Ellhnwn politwn.

Ayrio, to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa einai parwn sth Boylh, kata thn kyrwsh ths synqhkhs prosxwrhshs ths Roymanias kai ths Boylgarias sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Opws gnwrizete, einai mia panhgyrikh synedriash ths Boylhs, sthn opoia qa einai parontes kai oi Proedroi ths Dhmokratias twn dyo Balkanikwn xwrwn poy syntoma -elpizoyme- qa tis kalwsorisoyme sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Argotera, o Prwqypoyrgos qa paraqesei progeyma stoys dyo episkeptes.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

TSIODRAS: Anaferqhkate sto nomosxedio poy enekrine shmera h Kybernhtikh Epitroph poy afora stis epikoinwnies. Wstoso, h epikairothta skiazetai apo thn antiparaqesh h opoia yphrje metajy toy k. Liaph kai toy k. Alogoskoyfh, malista, me sklhres ekfraseis, opws toylaxiston eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas. Ekane kapoia systash stoys dyo Ypoyrgoys o Prwqypoyrgos;

ANTWNAROS: Epeidh anafereste se sklhres, opws tis xarakthrisate, ekfraseis, egw gnwrizw th dhlwsh thn opoia ekane o k. Liaphs, ejerxomenos shmera apo to Megaro Majimoy, meta th synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs.

KAKALHS: Yparxei problhma Liaph gia thn kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei kanena problhma. O k. Liaphs eipe oti gia to qema twn DEKO synergazontai oloi oi synarmodioi Ypoyrgoi. Oloklhrwnoyn apo koinoy, entos twn prosexwn hmerwn, to sxetiko nomosxedio kai yparxei symfwnia, epi ths arxhs, olwn twn Ypoyrgwn.

SPYRAKH: Pws synergazontai oloi oi synarmodioi Ypoyrgoi; Apokalwntas o enas ton allo ``anagwgo'' kai apantwntas o allos oti den asxoleitai me zhthmata poy einai sth sfaira ths parapolitikhs; Ayta apodidontai apo synergates twn dyo Ypoyrgwn, etsi opws exoyn katagrafei ston Typo.

ANTWNAROS: Egw gnwrizw tis dhlwseis twn ypoyrgwn. Gia ton Kybernhtiko Ekproswpo, isxyoyn panta oi dhlwseis, oi opoies ginontai dhmosia.

MOSXOBAS: Hqela to diko sas sxolio kai na moy peite an exei enhmerwqei o Prwqypoyrgos kai ti qesh pairnei sto qema gia th biomhxania agwgwn kata twn Meswn Enhmerwshs poy eide to fws ths dhmosiothtas, me epikentro thn agwgh poy kateqese, ta asfalistika metra poy syzhtoyntai ayth thn wra o Ypoyrgos Amynas kata ths efhmeridas Press Time.

ANTWNAROS: Kat` arxas kai qa moy epitrecete na sas diorqwsw, an kai moy einai dysaresto na to kanw kai den exw kamia tetoia proqesh. Milhsate gia biomhxania. Egw den blepw kamia biomhxania agwgwn h allwn paremferwn prajewn toylaxiston politikwn proswpwn, ta opoia anhkoyn ston kybernhtiko xwro. Den qa amfisbhthsei kaneis to dikaiwma kaqe polith kai fysika kaqe politikoy na antidra me ton tropo poy ekeinos prokrinei, otan aisqanetai oti qigetai h timh kai h ypolhch toy.

MOSXOBAS: Sas kalyptei ws kybernhsh ayto; O k. Sphliwtopoylos den ekane aplws mia mhnysh sta poinika dikasthria, ekane agwgh, asfalistika metra kai zhta thn katasxesh twn perioysiakwn stoixeiwn kai twn syntaktwn kai fylakish. Ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, poia qesh pairnete;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti den qa sxoliasw ton tropo antidrashs kanenos polith, efoson kineitai sta plaisia toy Syntagmatos kai twn nomwn.

MOSXOBAS: O Prwqypoyrgos egkrinei tetoioy eidoys meqodeyseis;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

SARANTAKOS: Na epistrecw ligo sto qema ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs. Pote mphke sthn atzenta to sygkekrimeno qema ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs; Htan eyqys ejarxhs programmatismeno na syzhthqei ayto to nomosxedio gia tis epikoinwnies h eprokeito na syzhthqei kai to qema twn DEKO, aplws allaje thn teleytaia stigmh, opws grafetai shmera stis efhmerides;

ANTWNAROS: Den yphrxe proqesh na syzhthqei to qema twn DEKO. Anaforika me thn prwth erwthsh sas: Ayto einai ena sxedio nomoy poy brisketai edw kai para poly kairo sto stadio ths proetoimasias. O armodios Ypoyrgos kai o armodios Yfypoyrgos briskontai se syzhthsh me toys foreis ekeinoys poy qa eixan kapoio logo na ekferoyn apoceis. Synepws, basei toy programmatismoy o opoios yphrxe, syzhthqhke shmera sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph.

SIDERHS: O k. Liaphs xarakthrizei ton k. Alogoskoyfh, ``anagwgo''. Mhpws h kybernhsh xreiazetai maqhmata savoir vivre;

ANTWNAROS: Prokeitai gia entelws diaforetikes ypoqeseis. Apodidete, opws eipa kai prohgoymenws, se enan Ypoyrgo ths kybernhshs, ekfraseis tis opoies, ap` oso gnwrizw, o idios den xrhsimopoihse pote kai epanalambanete kati poy feretai na eipe kapoios allos. Ekane dhlwseis, xqes, o k. Roysopoylos. Den exw na prosqesw kati allo.

SIDERHS: Mporei na htan xioymoristikh h erwthsh, alla einai eykolo gia ton Kybernhtiko Ekproswpo synexeia na leei ``den jerw'', ``den akoysa''.

ANTWNAROS: Den sas eipa oti den gnwrizw.

SIDERHS: Exete yphresies kai akoyne tis dhlwseis. Jerete oti o k. Nikolopoylos den feretai na to eipe, to eipe kai to jerete.

ANTWNAROS: Sas epanalambanw th dhlwsh poy ekane o k. Roysopoylos, xqes, kai h opoia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs. Qa thn epanalabw shmera: Oi qeseis, oi apoceis kai oi symperifores krinontai kai ajiologoyntai.

SPYRAKH: Ayto isxyei kai gia toys Ypoyrgoys;

ANTWNAROS: Kai oi Ypoyrgoi, boyleytes einai. Allwste, gia oloys isxyoyn osa exoyn pei kai oxi osa eikazetai oti exoyn pei.

STEFOS: Sxetika me thn agwgh toy k. Sphliwtopoyloy. Asfalws kai einai dikaiwma toy kaqe politikoy andros na antidra opws ekeinos krinei. H kybernhsh threi oydeterh stash kai adiaforei sthn prospaqeia na kleisei mia efhmerida; Giati me thn agwgh toy kai thn apofash gia proswrinh diatagh thn opoia endexomenws qa bgalei ayth thn wra to monomeles prwtodikeio, oysiastika kleinei h epixeireitai na kleisei mia efhmerida. Dioti milame gia ena poso 2,5 ekatommyriwn eyrw, milame gia prospaqeia na katasxeqei h kinhth kai akinhth perioysia twn dhmosiografwn, na fylakistoyn dhmosiografoi klp. Poso h kybernhsh nomimopoieitai na einai adranhs kai na threi oydeterh stash kalyptomenh pisw apo th frash ``einai mia ypoqesh poy afora proswpika ton qigomeno'';

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, den qa hqela, antiqeta me oti kanete eseis, na prodikasw mia apofash dikasthrioy to opoio, opws eipate, synedriazei ayth th stigmh.

STEFOS: Milhsa gia endexomeno. Dhladh h kybernhsh me thn oydeterh stash ths oysiastika kalyptei ton Ypoyrgo ths;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

MOSXOBAS: Me thn oydeterothta ayth poy ekfrazete, qewreite oti symbalete ston ployralismo, an kai se ena meso den exei qesh panw s` ayto h kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Bebaiws kai symballoyme ston ployralismo.

MOSXOBAS: Pws; Me to na kleisei mia efhmerida;

ANTWNAROS: Sas parakalw. Jerete na epibalame h na eipame h na ypagoreysame h na ypodeijame estw se ena meso pote ti na gracei; Ployralismos shmainei na mporei o kaqenas na leei thn apoch toy. Alla, taytoxrona shmainei kai sebasmo twn orwn ths deontologias, opws isxyoyn pagkosmiws gia th dhmosiografia.

MOSXOBAS: Efoson yparxoyn mesa. Edw milame gia thn prospaqeia fimwshs kai kleisimatos enos mesoy.

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei kamia tetoia prospaqeia.

STEFOS: Otan zhtoyntai 2,5 zesta-zesta ekat. eyrw na mpoyn sthn tseph toy k. Sphliwtopoyloy, moy lete oti me ayta ta 2,5 ekat. eyrw mporei na synexisei na leitoyrgei mia efhmerida, otan zhta apo shmera kiolas na katablhqoyn ayta ta xrhmata kai endexomenws apo shmera h efhmerida na mhn mporei na plhrwsei oyte kan toys kafedes gia to proswpiko ths@

ANTWNAROS: Mhn me emplekete se dikastikes antiparaqeseis, isxyrizomenos malista @

STEFOS: Den einai dikastiko, einai politiko.

ANTWNAROS: @pragmata ta opoia den antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta.

STEFOS: Poios den antapokrinetai sthn pragmatikothta;

ANTWNAROS: To qema, oson afora emena, exei kleisei.

STEFOS: Protiqetai h kybernhsh na katarghsei thn typoktona ayth diatajh;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw tipote allo panw se ayto to qema.

KAKALHS: Eipate oti den yparxei problhma Liaph sthn kybernhsh. Wstoso, omws, yparxei problhma me orismenes apoceis kai enstaseis toy ypoyrgoy, oson afora epiloges ths kybernhshs gia thn ejygiansh twn DEKO, gia to nomosxedio poy prokeitai na katateqei gia to programma ejygianshs twn DEKO.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa, molis pro oligwn leptwn, oti yparxei omofwnia kai symptwsh apocewn gia tis arxes ths sygkekrimenhs kybernhtikhs apofashs poy, opws gnwrizete, einai eilhmmenh edw kai poly kairo. Den yparxei diaforopoihsh.

KAKALHS: Mono epi ths arxhs; Mono stis arxes;

ANTWNAROS: Me th syzhthsh poy ginetai proxwroyme stis leptomereies. Qa deite syntoma to nomosxedio kai qa diapistwsete oti den yparxei kamia diaforopoihsh.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, kai sthn prohgoymenh aiqoysa toy briefing yphrxe mia kamera. Edw blepoyme treis. Ti nohma exoyn; Treis kryfes kamares.

ANTWNAROS: Opws jerete, briskomai prwth fora sthn aiqoysa. Qa plhroforhqw sxetika kai qa sas enhmerwsw.

PAPADOPOYLOS: O k. Prwqypoyrgos eixe jekinhsei ena programma episkecewn se ypoyrgeia, opws epishs kai synanthseis me boyleytes toy kommatos toy. Ayta ta programmata diekophsan h qa synexistoyn;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. Aplws oloklhrwqhke o prwtos kyklos. Oi epafes qa synexistoyn.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Gia tis synanthseis twn boyleytwn h gia thn episkech sta ypoyrgeia;

ANTWNAROS: Qa synexistei olos aytos o kyklos twn epafwn. To ena exei sxesh me to allo.

MOSXOBAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eseis qa kanate pote tetoia agwgh enantion MME gia kati poy egrace enantion sas kapoia efhmerida;

ANTWNAROS: Qa perimenw prwta na dw ti qa gracoyn oi efhmerides gia emena kai meta qa to krinw. Kaqe periptwsh krinetai jexwrista.

MOSXOBAS: H sygkekrimenh periptwsh dikaiologei tetoioy eidoys antidrash; Gnwrizete to dhmosieyma.

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na kanw kanena sxolio, pera apo osa sas eipa.

KAKALHS: Apo th shmerinh anagnwsh toy Typoy kai ta sxolia poy dhmosieythkan, diakrinete mhpws ena fobo twn diaplekomenwn h mhpws mia qriambologia gia to qema toy basikoy metoxoy.

ANTWNAROS: Shmasia exei ayto poy eipe o Prwqypoyrgos xqes to brady sth Boylh. H kybernhsh proxwra me staqera bhmata. Qa deite, ena-ena, ola ta bhmata poy qa pragmatopoihqoyn. Tipota den allazei.

KAKALHS: Pros ta poy proxwraei;

ANTWNAROS: Proxwrei pros th swsth kateyqynsh. Na eiste sigoyros gi` ayto.

IWANNOY: Zhthse to PASOK na ginei mia syzhthsh me anesh xronoy, oytws wste na mporesei kai to PASOK na pei tis protaseis toy endexomenws kai na ginei mia pio oysiastikh syzhthsh gia th diafaneia. Giati h kybernhsh speydei me th morfh toy katepeigontos na chfisei ayrio kiolas to nomosxedio, enw exete hdh dwsei mia paratash nomizw me prajh nomoqetikoy periexomenoy. Giati den egine mia pio oysiastikh syzhthsh;

ANTWNAROS: H syzhthsh exei ginei toys teleytaioys mhnes se ola ta epipeda. Exoyn ejantlhqei ta qemata. Einai gnwstes oi apoceis. Ekeino poy proexei ayth th stigmh, meta th symfwnia poy epeteyxqh, einai na proxwrhsoyme oysiastika sthn chfish toy nomosxedioy, me thn anesh xronoy poy sas diabebaiwnw oti qa yparxei sth Boylh kai na efarmostoyn@

IWANNOY: Mia hmera einai@

ANTWNAROS: Oi wres syzhthshs metrane, oytws h allws. Kai na teqei se efarmogh o nomos. Den mporei na yparjoyn alla kena nomoy h abebaiothtes.

IWANNOY: Xqes, eixa qesei ena qema ston k. Roysopoylo kai eipe oti qa mas apanthsei shmera. O ANT-1 eixe paroysiasei ena qema se ena nhsaki, sth Samiopoyla, me mia gynaika, th monh katoiko sto nhsi, ths opoias apebiwse o syzygos kai ths zhtoyn ena terastio poso na plhrwsei gia foroys. O k. Roysopoylos moy eipe xqes oti zhthse to grafeio toy Prwqypoyrgoy ta stoixeia apo to ypoyrgeio Oikonomias gia na doyn an mporei na kanei kati h kybernhsh. Gnwrizete na moy peite ti exei apofasistei;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. Qa to koitajw kai qa sas enhmerwsw.

XIWTHS: Epeidh to nomosxedio gia to basiko metoxo doqhke poly arga xqes sth dhmosiothta kai h kybernhsh den eixe thn eykairia na to sxoliasei, ayto poy den exw katalabei einai, telikws ayto to nomosxedio einai aplws enas koinos topos me thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, opws epediwke h ellhnikh kybernhsh h einai kai enas epwdynos symbibasmos;

ANTWNAROS: Einai mia epibebaiwsh twn prospaqeiwn ths kybernhshs na katapolemhsei apofasistika th diaplokh kai na paramerisei ``gkrizes zwnes'' se ayto ton tomea, opoy endexomenws yparxoyn.

XIWTHS: Epeidh oyte ayto to katalaba apo th xqesinh syzhthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Boylh apo tis dieykriniseis poy edwse o Prwqypoyrgos stoys arxhgoys twn kommatwn, h kybernhsh epimenei oti o katallhlos xronos gia na episkeftei o k. Karamanlhs thn Agkyra einai mexri to telos toy 2005, me dedomenes tis proqeseis ths bretanikhs Proedrias kai me dedomenes epishs tis dhlwseis toy k. Erntogan, meta th synanthsh me ton k. Mpler.

ANTWNAROS: Opws sas eipe xqes kai o k. Roysopoylos, oi diaboyleyseis synexizontai, mesw ths diplwmatikhs odoy gia ton kaqorismo ths hmeromhnias gia thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn Toyrkia. Den exoyn oloklhrwqei. Otan oloklhrwqoyn kai eimaste etoimoi, qa sas anakoinwsoyme thn akribh hmeromhnia.

XIWTHS: Eixa rwthsei kai xqes, alla me thn koybenta den apanthqhke. Oi hmeromhnies poy dioxeteyqhkan apo kybernhtikes phges -kai gnwrizete poly kala poies phges anaferw- oti to tajidi htan programmatismeno na pragmatopoihqei stis 24 kai 25 Noembrioy, den isxyoyn;

ANTWNAROS: Oi hmeromhnies gia ta tajidia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, alla kai allwn ychlwn ajiwmatoyxwn mias kybernhshs, isxyoyn apo th stigmh poy aytes oi hmeromhnies anakoinwnontai epishma. Ola ta alla einai -qa moy epitrecete na pw kai den to lew kaqoloy ypotimhtika- dhmosiografikes plhrofories.

XIWTHS: Prepei, pantws, na parathrhsw oti otan anakoinwnontai ta tajidia toy Prwqypoyrgoy epishma ta gnwrizoyme hdh edw kai deka hmeres. Dhladh, synhqws ta maqainoyme prwta anepishma, opws plhroforhqhkame kai to xronodiagramma twn epomenwn tajidiwn kai sthn Agkyra.

ANTWNAROS: Eimai o teleytaios o opoios qa amfisbhthsw, opws jerete, kai thn epaggelmatikh sas peira kai thn epaggelmatikh sas eparkeia. Kai ayto profanws sas dinei thn ikanothta na exete diafores plhrofories. Pantws, ekeino poy metraei se ola ta tajidia einai akribws h epishmh anakoinwsh twn hmeromhniwn. Ayto ginetai panta katopin synennohsews twn dyo pleyrwn, oi opoies emplekontai kai oi opoies probainoyn se taytoxronh anakoinwsh.

XIWTHS: Olh ayth h syzhthsh egine aplws k. Ekproswpe gia na diapistwsoyme, ean paramenei akoma anoikto to endexomeno na pragmatopoihqei kai entos toy Noembrioy to tajidi.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw tipota, oson afora thn endexomenh hmeromhnia toy tajidioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn Toyrkia.

TSIODRAS: Qa hqela na gnwrizw to ejhs: Ayto poy syzhtame me thn toyrkikh pleyra einai to programma twn dyo pleyrwn kai ean sympiptei h yparxoyn oysiastika zhthmata, apo ta opoia ejartatai o kaqorismos ths hmeromhnias.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na prosqesw tipota gia to qema toy tajidioy sthn Toyrkia.

SARANTAKOS: Qelw na epistrecw sto qema toy basikoy metoxoy kai na rwthsw gia th diadikasia kyriws poy akoloyqhqhke. Poioi htan aytoi oi logoi poy epebalan sthn kybernhsh kai ston k. Roysopoylo -o opoios fantazomai oti einai kai o genikos eishghths se ayto to deytero stadio gia to nomosxedio toy basikoy metoxoy- na proxwrhsei toso grhgora sthn paroysiash, h opoia shmeiwnw oti den exei ginei opws thn prohgoymenh fora me treis ypoyrgoys, sto Zappeio Megaro, apeyqeias syndeseis, syzhthseis meta kai egine mesa sth nyxta, xqes to brady, thn wra poy htan se ejelijh mia syzhthsh pro hmerhsias diatajews gia thn ejwterikh politikh kai ta eqnika qemata kai na teleiwnei poly grhgora -dinei thn entypwsh- me ayth thn istoria h kybernhsh. Poioi htan oi logoi poy epebalan ayth thn allagh sthn taktikh ths kybernhshs.

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei kamia allagh sthn taktikh ths kybernhshs. Ayto poy symbainei twra einai to epomeno stadio, se sxesh me o,ti eixe symbei prohgoymenws. Yparxoyn sygkekrimenes hmeromhnies mesa stis opoies h kybernhsh, h ellhnikh Politeia hrqe se epafh me thn E.E. Anthllaghsan apoceis kai otan symplhrwqhke o kyklos twn diaboyleysewn kai breqhke aytos o koinos topos, katateqhke, se wres leitoyrgias ths, to nomosxedio sth Boylh. To nomosxedio paei prwta sthn armodia Epitroph, syzhteitai opws problepetai apo ton Kanonismo ths Boylhs kai paei akoloyqws sthn Olomeleia, opoy kai qa chfistei.

SARANTAKOS: H kybernhsh den blepei diafores sthn taktikh poy akoloyqhqhke persi to Dekembrio me aythn poy akoloyqeitai twra;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti einai mia synexeia. Ekeinh htan -ean qelete- h arxikh paroysiash ths proqeshs ths kybernhshs na proxwrhsei stis sygkekrimenes ryqmiseis. Ayth th stigmh briskomaste sto stadio ths oloklhrwshs, to teliko stadio.

SARANTAKOS: O k. Dhmas, o Epitropos ths xwras mas sthn E.E., se dhlwseis toy to Sabbatokyriako sto ``MEGA'', eixe pei oti eginan laqos xeirismoi, kata thn prwth fash. Symmerizeste eseis ws kybernhsh ayth thn ektimhsh h oxi;

ANTWNAROS: Shmasia exei to apotelesma.

XIWTHS: Einai ikanopoihmenh h kybernhsh apo th morfh poy katateqhke to nomosxedio gia ton basiko metoxo xqes sth Boylh; Opws epishmainoyn shmera oi efhmerides htan ena nomosxedio poy eixe xeirografes prosqhkes, diagrafes edafiwn, moytzoyres kai apo katw oles tis ypografes twn melwn toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy. Einai kati synhqes; Mporeite na to dikaiologhsete ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Moy qetete qema aisqhtikhs;

XIWTHS: Oxi, otan katatiqetai ena dhmosio eggrafo, ypoqetw oti exei mia tajh mesa toy to eggrafo ayto. Den perilambanei moytzoyres, diorqwseis kai prosqhkes poy mporoyn na apaleifqoyn kai na katateqei mish wra argotera.

ANTWNAROS: Moy metaferete kati to opoio den gnwrizw. Shmasia exei oti katateqhke to nomosxedio kai qa chfistei apo th Boylh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh milate gia aisqhtikh, sas aresei poy kanete enhmerwsh me thn prostasia twn MAT; Kai qa synexistei ayto ap` o,ti katalabainw. Kaqe hmera qa exoyme enhmerwsh@

ANTWNAROS: Giati prodikazete to ti qa ginei ayrio kai meqayrio;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ekleisan shmera th Syggroy@

ANTWNAROS: Pisteyw oti kalws briskomaste edw kai kala qa kanoyme oloi mas -apo th mia pleyra o k. Roysopoylos ki egw kai apo thn allh pleyra eseis- na synexisoyme thn enhmerwsh se ayton ton poly wraio kai sygxrono xwro.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh einai poly wraios o xwros, kostise 33 ekatommyria eyrw, dhladh panw apo 10 disekatommyria draxmes, ti plhrwqhke toso poly kai efqase toso chla to kostos;

ANTWNAROS: Den to gnwrizw. Eyxaristws na sas ferw se epafh@

STAMATOPOYLOS: Me xrysoberges to eftiajan, me platina; Qa mas enhmerwsete poy phgan ayta ta xrhmata giati proerxontai apo ton ellhniko lao;

ANTWNAROS: Opws eipe xqes kai o k. Roysopoylos, einai xrhmata twn Ellhnwn forologoymenwn kai doqhkan gia thn kataskeyh enos eyproswpoy kai ajiologoy ktirioy, opoy exoyn hdh metaferqei oi Yphresies twn dyo Genikwn Grammateiwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Me ayta ta xrhmata ftiaxnoyn oyranojysth, oxi mono ayto edw.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw peira apo oikodomikes ergasies!

MPALHS: Pws sxoliazete thn protroph -apeilh qa elega egw- toy k. Anqimoy ston boyleyth k. Gewrgiadh na mhn anebei sth Qessalonikh, meta tis dhlwseis poy ekane gia to skopiano.

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete, oi boyleytes olwn twn kommatwn kinoyntai eleyqera se olh th xwra.

Sas eyxaristw.

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