Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-09-01

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Aqhna, 1h Septembrioy 2005

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY

APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

Kat` arxas, qelw na sas enhmerwsw oti apo xqes teqhke se dhmosia diaboyleysh to sxedio nomoy gia th systash Eqnikoy Optikoakoystikoy Arxeioy. To prwto kefalaio toy sxedioy nomoy anaferetai sth systash Eqnikoy Optikoakoystikoy Arxeioy, opws sas eixa pei apo thn perasmenh ebdomada, kai to deytero kefalaio anaferetai se ryqmiseis qematwn ths Genikhs Grammateias Epikoinwnias kai Genikhs Grammateias Enhmerwshs. Katalhktikh hmeromhnia ypobolhs sxoliwn kai parathrhsewn exei oristei h 9h Septembrioy.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

BLAXOS: Ayto ton ekbiasmo poy yparxei me emmeso, alla safestato tropo apo tis Efories, oi Efories ypoxreoyntai na kanoyn taktikoys forologikoys elegxoys stoys epixeirhmaties. Den ejartatai o taktikos forologikos elegxos apo to an qa prepei na dwsoyn ton FPA h oxi kai nomizw oti o k. Karamanlhs ws Arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs eixe tonisei para polles fores thn foromphxtikh politikh toy Kwsta Shmith kai to drama poy traboyn oi Ellhnes epixeirhmaties. Shmera, loipon, exoyme to idio fainomeno. Ti qa kanei h kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxei h ypoxrewsh na plhrwnoyme oloi foroys kai yparxei h ypoxrewsh ths Politeias na elegxei an ayth h diadikasia threitai swsta.

BLAXOS: Symfwnoyme apolyta, me mia omws proypoqesh oti aytos o elegxos den ginetai qa se elegjw ean den plhrwseis. Kaneis ton elegxo asxeta an plhrwseis h oxi. Edw, loipon, oi Efories stelnoyn ena xarti poy leei h qa mas dwsete to FPA, alliws erxomaste na sas elegjoyme. Aytos, k. Roysopoyle, einai ekbiasmos. Ellhnika to leme.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete yparxei mia seira diadikasiwn, oi opoies akoloyqoyntai xronia gia tis ryqmiseis palaioterwn xrewn, gia ton elegxo poy ginetai sto an ontws exoyn plhrwqei h oxi oi ypoxrewseis apo epixeirhmaties, idiwtes, misqwtoys k.o.k.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, moy epitrepete dyo erwthseis; H prwth einai h ejhs: Qa ayjhqoyn h oxi ta timologia twn sygkoinwniwn kai toy OSE apo 1hs toy 2006; Kai h deyterh, an sta kybernhtika sxedia gia thn OLYMPIAKH, diafainomenhs ths epimonhs ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs na katablhqei to prostimo poy exei epiblhqei kai jeperna ta 240 ekatommyria eyrw, entassetai kai to loyketo sthn etaireia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oson afora thn timologiakh politikh, opws enhmerwqhka apo ton armodio ypoyrgo, qa arxisei h syzhthsh me oloys toys foreis entos twn prosexwn hmerwn. Gia to deytero qema, entos toy Septembrioy qa synedriasei to Kolegio twn Epitropwn. Qa perimenoyme na doyme tis apofaseis toys.

POYLIDOY: H kypriakh kybernhsh xqes, meta to KOREPER, dhlwse pws ean den beltiwqei to keimeno ths antidhlwshs praktika qa proballei beto sthn enarjh twn entajiakwn diapragmateysewn ths Toyrkias. Symmerizeste ki eseis ayth th qesh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H diadikasia synexizetai. Exoyme tonisei epaneilhmmenws

-kai poly prosfata, dia stomatos toy idioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy- oti h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh prepei na apanthsei me safh tropo sth monomerh dhlwsh ths Toyrkias. Ayth einai h epidiwjh mas thn opoia kai prowqoyme se synexh synergasia kai epikoinwnia me thn kypriakh kybernhsh, alla kai me tis kybernhseis olwn twn allwn kratwn-melwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.

POYLIDOY: To xqesino prosxedio ths bretanikhs Proedrias htan safes kata th gnwmh sas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa parw qesh se ayto. Sto xqesino KOREPER yphrje mia apofash na ginei antidhlwsh-apanthsh sth monomerh dhlwsh ths Toyrkias kai katopin toytoy h bretanikh Proedria ekane th dikh ths protash. To periexomeno ayths ths antidhlwshs den kriqhke ikanopoihtiko kai prepei na beltiwqei. Opws, isws, gnwrizete -nomizw oti exei enhmerwsei o k. Koymoytsakos toys synadelfoys sas stis Bryjelles- o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. P. Molybiaths synomilhse kai thlefwnika me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths M. Bretanias k. Tzak Stro molis katateqhke h agglikh protash. Kai, bebaiws, synomilhse kai me ton Proedro ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias k. Tasso Papadopoylo. Shmera qa exei epikoinwnia me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths Toyrkias k. Ampntoylax Gkioyl.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, se sxesh me to qema toy prostimoy poy anaferetai se shmerina dhmosieymata, kat` arxhn h eishghsh ayth toy Epitropoy toy k. Zak Mparo exei perielqei se gnwsh ths kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa oti h diadikasia poy akoloyqeitai einai gnwsth. Den exw na sxoliasw tipote perissotero.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ayto to qema syzhthqhke sth xqesinh synanthsh twn dyo synarmodiwn Ypoyrgwn toy k. Alogoskoyfh kai toy k. Liaph;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi ypoyrgoi syzhthsan diafora qemata synarmodiothtas toys. Den exw kati sxetiko.

SARANTAKOS: Tis teleytaies hmeres kaloyntai sto ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs Emporikoi Syllogoi, epixeirhmaties kai to ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs proxwrei se diafores symfwnies kyriwn gia mh ayjhseis sta proionta. Qymamai ki esas kai alla stelexh ths Neas Dhmokratias, otan h Nea Dhmokratia htan sthn antipoliteysh, opoy eixe kataggeilei tote, ayth thn taktikh ths tote kybernhshs toy PASOK oti prospaqei mono me ``symfwnies kyriwn'' na elegjei thn akribeia. Ti exei allajei twra kai h kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias kanei akribws to idio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den einai akribes ayto poy lete. To akribes einai oti h kybernhsh -opws exw pei polles fores kai ayth thn ebdomada to epanelaba- me mia seira prospaqeiwn kai kyriws me toys elegxoys, deytereyontws me ta prostima poy exoyn epiblhqei, prospaqei na krathsei tis times sta epipeda poy einai logika h an qelete fysiologika.

SARANTAKOS: Symfwnies kyriwn, wstoso, ginontai. Dhladh, blepe kaqe mera pleon stis thleoraseis ton k. Sioyfa kai ton k. Papaqanasioy me Emporikoys Syllogoys, me Ekproswpoys paragwgikwn tajewn, epixeiroyn kai me ayton ton tropo. Den to arneiste ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To oti h kybernhsh prospaqei na diathrhsei tis times sta epipeda poy qa prepei na einai kai na mhn ayjanontai, einai ep` wfeleia toy Ellhna katanalwth.

SARANTAKOS: Eiste ikanopoihmenoi apo thn mexri twra prospaqeia ths kybernhshs sto qema ths akribeias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei apodwsei s` ena shmantiko baqmo. Pote den eimaste ikanopoihmenoi ews th lysh twn problhmatwn. To problhma ayto einai megalo, ginetai megalh prospaqeia.

KAKALHS: Gnwrizete, bebaia, oti oi biomhxanoi esteilan shmera neo katalogo me anatimhseis se eidh eyreias katanalwshs, dinontas to enaysma gia nea epelash akribeias. H kybernhsh, dhladh, qa synexisei na kratei th stash ths synachs symmaxiwn kai metwpoy me toys epixeirhmaties gia na antimetwpisei to qema ths akribeias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw akoysei kai diabasei para polla gia mia seira apo anatimhseis h dhqen anatimhseis to teleytaio diasthma. Qa kanw mia anafora sta sxolika eidh, ta opoia einai kai zhthma ths epikairothtas. To PASOK malista -kata laqos apo o,ti fanhke, alla den diorqwse to laqos toy sthn poreia- pairnontas aformh apo mia anakoinwsh toy Kentroy Prostasias Katanalwtwn (KEPKA), milhse gia ayjhseis sta sxolika mexri 37%. H katanalwtikh organwsh ejedwse nea diorqwtikh anakoinwsh opoy edeixne ta akribh posa kai an yphrxan h oxi ayjhseis. To PASOK den ekane ayth th diorqwsh. Ara, loipon, eimai poly epifylaktikos gia ta osa akoygontai genikws, gi` ayta ta opoia anaferate.

KAKALHS: Den katalaba, amfisbhteite oti stalqhke o katalogos apo toys biomhxanoys gia anatimhseis se eidh eyreias katanalwshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa oti exw akoysei kai diabasei para polla gia anatimhseis. Sas edwsa ena paradeigma to opoio einai poly sygkekrimeno. Exei doqei kai lista apo ton armodio ypoyrgo k. Papaqanasioy gia ta sxolika eidh. Stis perissoteres twn periptwsewn fetos, sta sxolika eidh exoyme meiwseis kai oxi ayjhseis, oxi anatimhseis.

KAKALHS: Den yparxei akribeia, ayto mas lete peripoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oson afora sygkekrimena ta sxolika eidh, sas lew akribws ayto, oxi peripoy. Einai de ena paradeigma poly shmantiko, dioti alla leei to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, alla eipwqhkan h grafhkan kai alla apodeiknyetai oti isxyoyn sthn pragmatikothta.

BLAXOS: Eseis poy cwnisate sta paidia sas, diapistwsate oti einai fqhnotera ta sxolika eidh fetos ap@ oti ta agorasate perysi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Mporw na sas promhqeysw me enan katalogo, ton opoio hdh exei dwsei sth dhmosiothta to armodio ypoyrgeio, poy apodeiknyei ayto poy sas lew. Kai bebaiws mporeite na pate kai seis na cwnisete ayta ta sxolika eidh, gia na diapistwsete an einai akribh ta stoixeia poy didontai.

POYLIDOY: Mpainoyn kai ta kinezika;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ta ergaleia poy xreiazetai enas maqhths gia na mporesei na parakoloyqhsei th sxolikh xronia.

MPOYATAR: Yparxei ena kypriako aithma ayth th stigmh sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh gia yioqethsh apo thn E.E. enos xronodiagrammatos anagnwrishs ths Kyproy apo thn Toyrkia, sto plaisio twn entajiakwn diapragmateysewn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epeidh h syzhthsh synexizetai shmera sto plaisio twn ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn, den qa hqela na pw tipote perissotero.

PALAIOLOGOS: Me aformh th xqesinh synanthsh toy k. Liaph kai toy k. Alogoskoyfh, sto erwthma ean h kybernhsh apokleiei endexomenh ayjhsh sta eisithria twn sygkoinwniwn akomh kai an h timh toy petrelaioy parei thn anioysa sto prosexes diasthma@.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apanthsa prohgoymenws sto erwthma sas.

BLAXOS: Eipate, an den kanw laqos, oti o k. Molybiaths shmera, qa thlefwnhsei ston k. Gkioyl. Ti qa toy pei akribws;

SPYRAKH: Sygnwmh poy parembainw, exoyme kapoies plhrofories gia synanthsh sto periqwrio ths Synodoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa yparxei mia synomilia shmera. O ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. P. Molybiaths qa sas enhmerwsei gia to plaisio ths synomilias meta th synanthsh.

BLAXOS: Den einai kybernhtikh politikh ayto poy qa kanei o k. Molybiaths;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Na oloklhrwqei prwta h synanthsh kai eimai bebaios oti kai o k. Molybiaths alla kai o ekproswpos toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn k. Koymoytsakos qa kanoyn tis sxetikes anakoinwseis.

LEONTITSH: Telika qa doqei to epidoma qermanshs petrelaioy; Giati xqes apo to ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs htan qetikes oi dhlwseis alla apo to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Oikonomias den yphrje megalh proqymia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den jerw pws ermhneyete tis dhlwseis. O k. Sioyfas eipe xqes oti ejetazontai ola ta endexomena. O k. Alogoskoyfhs symplhrwse oti ejetazontai ta endexomena sto plaisio toy proypologismoy. Ara eipan to idio pragma. Opws oloi gnwrizoyme ta periqwria einai ejairetika periorismena logw ths kakhs dhmosionomikhs katastashs poy exoyme paralabei apo thn prohgoymenh kybernhsh.

KAKALHS: Hqela na rwthsw, me poia krithria h kybernhsh apofasise thn katarghsh twn organwmenwn dhmosiografikwn apostolwn poy synodeyoyn ton Prwqypoyrgo sta epishma tajidia sto ejwteriko. H kybernhsh adiaforei gia to gegonos oti to dikaiwma sthn enhmerwsh toy ellhnikoy laoy ginetai ypoqesh twn ligwn kai isxyrwn sygkrothmatwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ta tajidia ayta einai sigoyra ena terastio oikonomiko kostos. Mporw, ean qelete, na sas promhqeysw me sygkekrimena stoixeia. Yparxoyn perikopes tis opoies ofeiloyme na kanoyme synolika ston proypologismo, sta dhmosia ejoda. Sto plaisio ayto ginetai h perikoph twn tajidiwn h twn perissoterwn tajidiwn. Den einai mia apofash poy th labame me xara. Einai mia apofash poy prepei na lhfqei. Einai poly megala ta ejoda poy ginontai. Bebaiws, sthn enhmerwsh prosbash exoyn oi pantes. Den apokleietai kaneis.

KAKALHS: To meizon qema paramenei kai einai, kata th gnwmh moy, politiko. Einai to qema ths enhmerwshs toy ellhnikoy laoy, to opoio pleon ginetai ypoqesh oligwn. Alla, epipleon ean einai oikonomiko qema.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den einai qema twn oligwn giati milame gia MME, ta opoia einai idiwtikes epixeirhseis. Eseis pisteyete oti to Dhmosio prepei na epidotei idiwtikes epixeirhseis;

KAKALHS: To Dhmosio prepei na symballei, an mh ti allo, sto qema ths enhmerwshs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Symballei kai na sas pw pws: Kai h dikh sas efhmerida, opws kai oi ypoloipes, poy kykloforoyn panelladika kostizoyn sto ellhniko Dhmosio peripoy 700.000 eyrw to mhna gia thn diakinhsh toys. To gnwrizete ayto; Ayto den kophke. Einai peripoy 700.000 eyrw to mhna, ta opoia plhrwnei to ellhniko Dhmosio gia th diakinhsh -me aeroplana h alla mesa- twn efhmeridwn, oi opoies einai idiwtikes epixeirhseis. Den ginontai, loipon, perikopes genikws kai aoristws. Kanoyme perikopes se ejoda, ta opoia aforoyn tajidia toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Anti na epaineqei ayth h prospaqeia, yparxei krish h katakrish;

KAKALHS: Safws yparxei, alla den einai ayto to qema. Ean einai qema oikonomiko, giati o Prwqypoyrgos den erxetai mazi mas se ena aeroplano, stis dhmosiografikes apostoles, wste na yparxoyn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Giati to kostos einai poly megalo.

KAKALHS: Ma, ena aeroplano qa yparxei, enw twra yparxoyn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den einai ena aeroplano.

KAKALHS: Ena aeroplano. O Prwqypoyrgos twra epilegei to diko toy aeroplano.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Prokeitai gia kostos, to opoio analyetai se dekades xiliades eyrw se kaqe tajidi.

BLAXOS: Mhpws yparxei kati newtero apo th meleth poy kanei to armodio ypoyrgeio gia to an qa dwsei to prasino fws na kinhqoyn ta petrelaiokinhta kai sthn Attikh kai sth Qessalonikh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia to idio qema exw apanthsei tis treis teleytaies hmeres. Den exw kati perissotero.

BLAXOS: To idio erwthma qa to apantate kai qa to apantate kaqe hmera, giati jerete kykloforei oti to problhma einai ta asxhma kaysima, ta opoia bgainoyn apo ta ellhnikh diylisthria. Kai ayto einai ena problhma, ean h kybernhsh den piezei ta diylisthria.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas apanthsa gia to qema politika. Ean qelete na kanete kapoio reportaz, to opoio na einai pio analytiko, qa sas parakaloysa na apeyqynqeite se armodioteroys emoy, sta armodia ypoyrgeia kai mporei na sas milhsoyn kai gia ta qemata ths rypanshs kai gia ta qemata toy kostoys. Einai polypleyro to qema, opws sas ejhghsa kai proxqes. Afora kai thn E.E. Sas ekana mia politikh dhlwsh, sthn opoia kai qa meinw.

SARANTAKOS: Peite moy ean kanw laqos. Apo th xqesinh synanthsh toy k. Orfanoy me ton Proedro ths PAE Olympiakos k. Kokkalh yphrje to symperasma, shmera stis efhmerides, oti pleon einai zhthma xronoy h eisagwgh twn ellhnikwn omadwn sto ``STOIXHMA''. Isxyei ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei safws sto erwthma. Exw milhsei kai gia ta aysthra asymbibasta ta opoia qa thrhqoyn kai ta opoia elegxei h armodia epitroph me nomikoys. Pisteyoyme oti syntoma qa exei etoimo to porisma ths. Den exei allajei tipota apo osa sas eixa pei se ayth thn aiqoysa prin apo ligo kairo.

SARANTAKOS: O Proedros ths PAE Olympiakos otan rwthqhke gia to qema eipe oti kai o Olympiakos einai ellhnikh omada kai ara kai ayth qa symmetasxei. Exete kapoio sxolio ep` aytoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eipa oti yparxoyn asymbibasta, ta opoia qa thrhqoyn.

SIDERHS: Caxnete, dhladh, ton nomiko ``doyreio ippo'' gia na ypeiselqei o k. Kokkalhs jeplymenos; Eseis ton legate ``ntabatzh''.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ennoeite oti h kybernhsh prepei na parei mia apofash, h opoia na mhn exei nomikh bash; Den katalabainw to erwthma poy kanete. Oses fores syzhthsame to qema sas eipa me safhneia oti yparxoyn asymbibasta. Epishs, sas eixa pei sthn teleytaia mas syzhthsh gi ayto to qema, oti qa systaqei mia epitroph gia na ereynhsei ola ayta ta zhthmata kai na qesei tis proypoqeseis. Mhn bgazete ek toy proxeiroy symperasmata.

KAKALHS: Oi plhrofories lene oti apo thn Trith qa mpei o Olympiakos sto ``STOIXHMA''.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw apo poy proerxontai aytes oi plhrofories. Pantws, to ergo ths epitrophs den exei oloklhrwqei. Epanalambanw gia trith fora: Yparxoyn asymbibasta kai ta asymbibasta qa thrhqoyn.

MPOYATAR: Yparxei kati newtero gia thn episkech toy k. Poytin sto Agion Oros;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den exw kati perissotero.

Sas eyxaristw.

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