Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-10-13

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Aqhna, 13 Oktwbrioy 2004

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

Ayrio, stis 11 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa milhsei sth synedriash ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ths Neas Dhmokratias, h opoia qa pragmatopoihqei sthn Aiqoysa ths Geroysias ths Boylhs.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o k. Papandreoy prin apo ligo kathgorhse thn Kybernhsh gia aqethsh twn proeklogikwn yposxesewn ths kai gia kaphleysh toy ergoy toy PASOK. Exete kapoio sxolio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den sxoliazw tis genikes kai aoristes kataggelies toy k. Papandreoy, oi opoies, opws antilambanomai, exoyn stoxo thn askhsh antipoliteytikhs politikhs pros thn Kybernhsh. Ekeino poy qelw na shmeiwsw einai oti h Kybernhsh stoys peripoy oktw mhnes diakybernhshs ths exei hdh kanei prajh polles apo tis desmeyseis ths kai proxwra poly grhgorotera ap@ o,ti anemenan oi perissoteroi apo toys politikoys antipaloys mas.

KAKALHS: H Kybernhsh, asfalws, den ejeplagh apo ta stoixeia toy EKKE gia th ftwxeia. Allwste, ta idia stoixeia xrhsimopoioyse proeklogika gia na deijei to endiaferon ths pros toys oikonomika asqenesteroys. Omws, meta tis ekloges den exei parei kanena metro gia thn antimetwpish ths ftwxeias. Qewrei oti epraje to kaqhkon ths, pairnontas thn chfo twn ptwxwn kai teleiwse;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H Kybernhsh exei mprosta ths na antimetwpisei polles proklhseis. To zhthma ths ftwxeias einai ena apo ta shmantikotera poy apasxolei oxi mono thn ellhnikh koinwnia, alla kai polles apo tis koinwnies toy kosmoy. H dikh mas prospaqeia apo thn prwth stigmh -kai ayto analyqhke sthn omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Qessalonikh prin apo ligo kairo- einai na dhmioyrghqoyn oi synqhkes, wste na ayjhqei to eisodhma toy xamhlomisqoy kai toy xamhlosyntajioyxoy. Aytoys toys stoxoys exoyn kai h forologikh politikh mas -thn opoia syntoma qa gnwrisete sth Boylh- alla kai h anaptyjiakh.

SIDERHS: An dexotan h Kybernhsh thn ejetastikh epitroph na ereynhsei kai to eptamhno ths Neas Dhmokratias, den qa edeixne kai den qa isxyropoioyse thn aqwothta twn proqesewn ths;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apo thn pleyra ths Kybernhshs yparxoyn dyo parathrhseis: H prwth einai pws, otan enas Eisaggeleas stelnei to porisma toy sth Boylh, kaneis den dikaioytai na agnohsei kai na mhn krinei se prwto kai se deytero epipedo thn protash toy Eisaggelea. H deyterh einai oti me thn protash toy PASOK pragmatika apokalyptetai poios epixeirei na poinikopoihsei thn politikh zwh toy topoy. Akritws kai adiakritws to PASOK, xwris kanena stoixeio, zhtei th systash ejetastikhs epitrophs gia to eptamhno poy kyberna h Nea Dhmokratia. To antiqeto symbainei me thn protash ths ejetastikhs epitrophs ths Neas Dhmokratias, h opoia kai yperchfisthke xqes to brady, opoy me bash stoixeia zhteitai o elegxos symbasewn toy Dhmosioy me kapoies etairies. Allos einai, loipon, ekeinos poy prospaqei na poinikopoihsei thn politikh zwh, akritws, adiakritws kai xwris stoixeia.

SIDERHS: An, omws, dexosastan qa afairoysate kaqe prosxhma apo to PASOK.

ROYSOPOYLOS: O rolos ths Kybernhshs den einai na prosqetei h na afairei prosxhmata. Einai na kyberna epi th basei pragmatikwn dedomenwn kai ayta ta dedomena krinontai sthn kaqhmerinothta toys. To PASOK, ean exei opoiodhpote stoixeio @kai edw qa epanalabw mia frash poy ajiopoihse poly syxna o prwhn Prwqypoyrgos k. Shmiths- mporei na to eisagagei se ereyna ston Eisaggelea kai en synexeia na ftasei kai sth Boylh.

SPYRAKH: Xqes, to Eqniko Symboylio Radiothleorashs den edwse pistopoihtiko diafaneias sthn epixeirhsh AKTWR, symferontwn toy epixeirhmatia Lewnida Mpompola, me to aitiologiko oti yparxoyn zhthmata sxetika me koino logariasmo me ton ekdoth patera toy kai koines apodoxes dieyqynsewn. Qa hqela ena sxolio sas.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, to ESR kata to arqro 15 toy Syntagmatos einai Anejarthth Arxh. H Kybernhsh den sxoliazei apofaseis ayths ths Arxhs.

SPYRAKH: Pws sxoliazete to gegonos oti h aitiologia ths aporrichs toy pistopoihtikoy diafaneias syndyazetai me thn enstash poy exei kanei o epixeirhmatias Emfietzogloy kai oi logoi ths aporrichs einai oi idioi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas apanthsa. Gia perissoteres leptomereies mporeite na apeyqynqeite sto ESR.

SOYGLERHS: O k. Papandreoy kathgorhse thn Kybernhsh sthn Koinoboyleytikh toy Omada. O k. Karamanlhs sthn ayrianh synedriash qa kanei apologismo toy ergoy; Dwste mas to stigma ths ayrianhs omilias toy Prwqypoyrgoy, giati blepoyme kai apo ta dhmosieymata oti h eikona poy paroysiazei h Kybernhsh den einai h prepoysa h h katallhlh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den jerw ti ennoeite me to na lete an einai prepoysa h katallhlh. H Kybernhsh me tis apofaseis kai tis prajeis ths kyberna ton topo edw kai kapoioys mhnes. Opws gnwrizete, den synhqizw na dinw apo thn prohgoymenh hmera h nwritera to stigma ths omilias toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Den to ekana oyte otan htan Arxhgos ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs.

TSIODRAS: Yparxoyn diafores plhrofories oi opoies grafontai shmera, oti exei aporrifqei to sxedio toy ellhnikoy proypologismoy apo thn E.E.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den yparxei kamia ekqesh ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs gia to prosxedio toy ellhnikoy proypologismoy. Epanalambanw oti h Kybernhsh qa proxwrhsei sthn ektelesh toy oikonomikoy programmatos ths.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Prin apo merikes hmeres h E.E. ejedwse qetikh ekqesh gia thn entajiakh poreia ths Toyrkias. H Ellada asmenoysa yper ths entajiakhs poreias ths Toyrkias. H Toyrkia synexizei na paraspondei. Kai den anaferomai mono oti den anagnwrizei thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia, alla xqes eixame parabiaseis toy enaerioy xwroy ths Elladas, kat` epanalhch, apo toyrkika aeroskafh. Dierwtwmai, pws syndyazontai ayta ta pragmata kai poia einai h qesh ths Elladas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oles oi armodies arxes gnwrizoyn ta qemata sta opoia anafereste kai parakoloyqoyn stena aytes tis ejelijeis. Apo to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn ginontai oi deoyses parathrhseis kai energeies. Thn apoch ths kybernhshs gia tetoies symperifores thn exw pei kai qa thn janapw. Th gnwrizete poly kala. Pisteyoyme oti den synadoyn kai ara den symballoyn sto kalo klima twn dimerwn sxesewn, to opoio epiqymoyme me staqerothta, tetoioy eidoys energeies.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qa mporoyse, dhladh -ean moy epitrepete- na allajei telika stis 17 Dekembrioy h stash ths Elladas, oson afora thn entajiakh poreia ths Toyrkias, ean synexistei ayth h katastash;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa epiqymoysame na meiwsei h Toyrkia tis opoies energeies prokaloyn entaseis metajy twn dyo lawn.

GALIATSATOS: Tis teleytaies hmeres parathreitai entonh kinhtikothta gyrw apo ta Imia, me proseggiseis toyrkikwn skafwn, me proseggiseis ellhnikwn k.lp. Epeidh kai sthn Toyrkia ta pragmata den einai ta kalytera kai to stratiwtiko katesthmeno mporei na sthsei kapoia probokatsia, giati h kybernhsh ypobaqmizei toso poly ayto to qema;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den anabaqmizei, oyte ypobaqmizei to qema. Nomizw oti h dhlwsh moy shmera dinei ena safes stigma twn proqesewn ths kybernhshs, ena safes stigma ths politikhs mas. Ekeino poy epiqymoyme einai oi kales sxeseis twn dyo lawn. Kai zhtoyme apo thn allh pleyra, epi th basei twn oswn exoyn dhlwqei kai dhmosiws kai stis syzhthseis poy exoyn ginei dimerws, na diathrhsei ayth thn prospaqeia kai na thn epekteinei, wste to kalo klima poy exei diamorfwqei, na mhn diataraxqei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate prohgoymenws se allh erwthsh oti to ESR einai Anejarthth Arxh kai den elegxetai apo kanenan. Dhladh, mporei na paranomei kai na mhn elegxetai apo kanenan;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eipa oti einai Anejarthth Arxh, kata to arqro 15 toy Syntagmatos kai ws ek toytoy h Kybernhsh den sxoliazei tis apofaseis toy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mporeite na moy peite, giati edine mexri twra pistopoihtika kai jafnika stamathse;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den mporw na sas apanthsw. Ayto einai ena erwthma poy prepei na teqei sto ESR.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den prepei na to elegjete, mhpws paranomws energei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi Anejarthtes Dioikhtikes Arxes, opws jerete, gi` ayto to logo einai anejarthtes, gia na mhn ypokeintai ston elegxo ths Dhmosias Dioikhshs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Se kanena elegxo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sto parelqon -opws lete- ontws isxye ayto. Me to neo Syntagma, h Anejarthth Arxh einai anejarthth.

SARANTAKOS: To problhma me toys symbasioyxoys enteinetai, eidika me toys symbasioyxoys poy den exei ananewqei h symbash toys sto Ypoyrgeio Politismoy. Yparxei kapoia prwtoboylia poy qa analabei o k. Karamanlhs, na dei toys anqrwpoys aytoys (den akoygetai);

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizw, exoyn ginei synanthseis me ton Yfypoyrgo Politismoy k. P. Tatoylh kai nomizw kai me thn Anaplhrwth Ypoyrgo Politismoy k. F. Palh-Petralia. H apofash ths kybernhshs diatypwqhke se nomosxedio, to opoio efere o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs k. P. Paylopoylos, to kalokairi sth Boylh. Apofash mas einai na proxwrhsoyme sthn enarmonish twn oswn oi koinotikes odhgies ths E.E. problepoyn apo to 1999 gia toys symbasioyxoys.

SARANTAKOS: Synanthsh me ton k. Karamanlh den problepetai;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw kati ypoch moy.

XIDIROGLOY: Epitrecete moy na anaferqw sto qema toy ntopingk. Xqes, sto kentriko deltio yphrxe h eidhsh, aqlhths kai prwhn stelexos ths Eqnikhs Omadas, oti o k. Xrhstos Tzekos xorhgoyse anabolika stoys aqlhtes toy. Ektos apo to nomosxedio Orfanoy, poies alles prwtoboylies qa analabei h kybernhsh, prokeimenoy na katastalei ayto to fainomeno;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qymizw oti brisketai se ejelijh h ereyna toy Eisaggelea. Epishs, qelw na tonisw oti, opws sas eixa pei diarkoyshs ths Olympiadas, me prwtoboylia ths kybernhshs, qa syzhthqei diakommatika to qema ayto. Kai pisteyoyme oti prepei na antimetwpistei diakommatika. Menw se ayto: Perimenoyme to porisma toy Eisaggelea.

GKOYTZANHS: Xqes, o Anaplhrwths Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos k. Antwnaros eipe oti h kybernhsh den ypeiserxetai se epixeirhmatikes antizhlies kai antipalothtes, apantwntas se erwthsh gia ton epixeirhmatiko-ekdotiko polemo poy brisketai se ejelijh. Shmera, h efhmerida poy proskeitai ston enan paragonta aytoy toy polemoy epikrinei kai epitiqetai ston k. Antwnaro kai epikaleitai malista ychlobaqmes politikes phges. Yparxei kati gi` ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den sxoliazw pote dhmosieymata, opws gnwrizete. Ekeino poy qelw na shmeiwsw einai oti gia thn kybernhsh den einai antiparaqesh epixeirhmatikwn symferontwn. Kaqe efhmerida diatypwnei tis apoceis ths epi qematwn ths dhmosias zwhs. H Kybernhsh ofeilei na kanei qesmikes parembaseis opoy yparxoyn kena h exoyn parathrhqei problhmata sth leitoyrgia toy dhmosioy bioy.

KWNSTANTAKOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pisteyei h kybernhsh oti ta zhthmata poy exoyn teqei me thn apergia peinas toy Koyfontina einai tetoia poy epiballetai na ejantlhqei ekei h sklhrothta ths kai pisteyete, epishs, oti mia tetoia antimetwpish qa bohqhsei sthn antimetwpish ths tromokratias h endexetai na ths prosferei epixeirhmata ean h katalhjh einai ayth poy orismenoi prolegoyn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti yparxoyn ejoysies, anejarthtes metajy toys. H Dikaiosynh exei apofanqei. O Ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs xqes ekane ekteneis anafores sto qema ths krathshs twn kratoymenwn gia thn ypoqesh ths 17 N. Den exw na prosqesw tipota perissotero sta osa eipe o k. Papalhgoyras.

KWNSTANTAKOPOYLOS: Dhladh, symfwneite me th dhlwsh toy k. Papalhgoyra, oti ekeinoi epelejan kai epomenws, ean peqanei o Koyfontinas einai qema toy Koyfontina poy kanei thn apergia peinas, giati ayto dhlwse; Pisteyete oti ayto synadei, ean qelete, kai me to aisqhma dikaiosynhs toy ellhnikoy laoy; Giati zoyme se mia xwra sthn opoia -opws jerete- oi ypaitioi ths anatrophs ths Dhmokratias, oi basanistes ths diktatorias, oi anqrwpoi poy anoijan thn porta ths Kyproy sthn Toyrkia, den exoyn timwrhqei toso aysthra. Den nomizete oti ayto einai epixeirhma poy kata kapoio tropo prosferetai apo thn Politeia pros ayth thn pleyra; (DEN AKOYGETAI) to aisqhma dikaiosynhs toy ellhnikoy laoy me ayto poy symbainei; Giati milame gia ton proaylismo twn kratoymenwn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Milwntas gia dikaiosynh, anafereste sthn aisqhsh dikaiosynhs toy ellhnikoy laoy. Sas milw gia th dikaiosynh se mia syntetagmenh Politeia, h opoia exei parei tis apofaseis ths, katopin pollwn mhnwn akroamatikhs diadikasias se ena Dikasthrio. Oloi ofeiloyme na sebastoyme tis apofaseis ths Dikaiosynhs, efoson qeloyme na zoyme se mia syntetagmenh Politeia.

KWNSTANTAKOPOYLOS: Oydeis sxoliazei tis apofaseis ths Dikaiosynhs. Oydeis zhta thn allagh, gia tis synqhkes proaylismoy twn kratoymenwn, milame.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia tis synqhkes, sas lew kai pali oti ekane xqes ekteneis anafores o k. Papalhgoyras.

BLAXOS: Qelw na gyrisw pali sto qema twn Imiwn. Ap` o,ti diabazw dyo toyrkika polemika phgan kai egkatastaqhkan se aktina poly konta stis nhsides Imia kai paremeinan ekei toylaxiston mish wra, xwris na ta enoxlhsei kanenas. Akoyw oti stelnete ena frastiko mhnyma sthn Toyrkia. Qa hqela na moy peite, ean qewreite oti ta Imia einai tmhma ths ellhnikhs epikrateias, ean prepei na prostateyqei me kaqe tropo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H erwthsh sas exei staqerh apanthsh edw kai para polla xronia. Den nomizw oti yparxei kaneis sthn Ellada poy na qewrei oti ta Imia den einai tmhma ths ellhnikhs epikrateias. Pros Qeoy!

BLAXOS: Na to janakoysw hqela.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn alles erwthseis;

Sas eyxaristw.

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