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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 9 Ianoyarioy 2004

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas. Xronia Polla kai kalh xronia.

Opws gnwrizete, shmera to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos eixe synanthsh me toys ypoyrgoys Oikonomias kai Oikonomias N. Xristodoylakh kai Eqnikhs Amynas G. Papantwnioy, parontos toy Proedroy ths Trapezas ths Elladas k. Gkargkana. Ejetasthke to qema ths Genikhs Trapezas. Opoies apofaseis lhfqoyn, qa anakoinwqoyn apo to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas kai to Metoxiko Tameio Stratoy.

Ayth th stigmh, exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn Giwrgo Papandreoy kai to Grammatea toy PASOK Mixalh Xrysoxoidh.

Th Deytera, o Prwqypoyrgos qa egkainiasei th nea shragga toy OSE, sthn perioxh twn Tempwn.

Thn Trith, to prwi, qa milhsei stoys ypochfioys toy PASOK kai sth synexeia qa anakoinwqei to synolo toy programmatos toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Sthn omilia poy qa kanei thn Trith o k. Shmiths stoys ypochfioys toy PASOK, opws exei programmatistei, qa milhsei kai o k. Papandreoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto qa oristikopoihqei sth synanthsh poy einai se ejelijh.

MIXAHL: To ypoloipo programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy poy eixe kaqoristei mexri teloys toy mhna, isxyei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa ginei h episkech toy sthn Krhth, gia thn paroysiash ths Oikonomikhs kai Koinwnikhs Xartas kai kapoies alles kinhseis kybernhtikoy xarakthra.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Toy enos h kai twn dyo; Rwtw, giati kai o k. Papandreoy qa phgaine sthn Krhth.

PRWTOPAPAS: Me dedomeno oti synexizetai, ayth th stigmh, h synanthsh kratw, gia logoys deontologias, thn ekkremothta ayth. O Prwqypoyrgos eixe sxediasei na paei sthn Krhth stis 15 kai 16 Ianoyarioy. Epishs, proqesh toy htan na paei kai sth Qessalia, stis 23 Ianoyarioy. Exoyme, hdh, ejaggeilei thn episkech ayth gia thn paroysiash ths Oikonomikhs kai Koinwnikhs Xartas. O Prwqypoyrgos qa syntonisei to kybernhtiko ergo. Qa yparxoyn kybernhtikes drasthriothtes. Mia apo aytes einai h episkech toy sta Temph, thn erxomenh Deytera. Qa synedriasei, epishs, kai KYSEA, thn erxomenh Pempth.

Oson afora tis kommatikes drasthriothtes, qa einai parwn kai qa pragmatopoihsei ekeines poy exoyme hdh anaggeilei. Dhladh, thn omilia toy pros toys ypochfioys toy PASOK, thn episkech toy sto Hrakleio ths Krhths, thn episkech toy sth Qessalia.

MIXAHL: Qa hqela ena sxolio gia th xqesinh synenteyjh toy k. Karamanlh. Eidikotera ayta poy sxoliase gia tis dikes sas ejelijeis kai thn allagh hgesias sto PASOK, alla kai to gegonos oti opoios kai na einai o antipalos qa kerdisei h N.D. stis ekloges, giati pisteyei oti den mporei na antistrafei to klima apo thn politikh poy exete askhsei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia na mh diaxyqoyme sto synolo mias megalhs ek twn pragmatwn se xronikh diarkeia synenteyjhs, na sxoliasoyme ayto to shmeio poy zhthsate, to opoio qewrw oti einai to shmantikotero. Qelw na pw to ejhs: Oi polites exoyn strammeno to blemma toys, kyriws pros emas. Perimenoyn na doyn tis politikes kinhseis mas. Exoyn tis prosdokies gia tis nees politikes mas. Emeis ofeiloyme, me to programma mas kai tis nees politikes prwtoboylies mas, na antapokriqoyme qetika sta problhmata toy ellhnikoy laoy kai stis prosdokies toy. Etsi qa kerdisoyme kai tis ekloges. Epomenws, to kyrio zhthma den einai ayto poy leei o k. Karamanlhs, o opoios aplws epanalambanei gnwstes qeseis kai omilies toy, xwris oysiastika na exei prosqesei nea epixeirhmata h nea dedomena. Oyte kai xqes eixame th dynatothta na doyme, pera apo genikologes ekfraseis, poio einai to pragmatiko periexomeno toy programmatos toy gia thn oikonomia, gia thn apasxolhsh, gia to asfalistiko, gia krisima zhthmata poy apasxoloyn ton polith. Ginetai safes oti to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs perna periodo sygxyshs, neyrikothtas kai amhxanias. Emeis gnwrizoyme oti oi polites perimenoyn kai prosdokoyn apo mas tis nees politikes parembaseis kai tis politikes prwtoboylies mas. Emeis qa antapokriqoyme kai qa kerdisoyme tis ekloges.

ZOYLAS: Epeidh katalogizete kai shmera sth N.D. elleimma programmatos, mporeite na mas peite, apo pleyras ths kybernhshs, pote qa anakoinwqei to programma toy epomenoy prwqypoyrgoy, dhladh toy k. Papandreoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Toy epomenoy prwqypoyrgoy, meta tis ekloges. Elpizw me Prwqypoyrgo to Giwrgo Papandreoy.

ZOYLAS: Ennow pote qa anakoinwqei o programmatikos logos toy k. Papandreoy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oson afora to programma mas, qelw na sas qymisw oti, symfwna me th xqesinh apofash ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs, h oloklhrwsh ths diadikasias gia to synolo toy kybernhtikoy programmatos mas, einai programmatismenh gia to Synedrio mas, poy qa ginei stis 6 Febroyarioy. O idios o k. Papandreoy apo ekei kai pera qa epilejei to pws kai pote qa anaferetai se basikes politikes kateyqynseis.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Me osa exete dhlwsei, exw thn aisqhsh oti oi prwtoboylies qa anhkoyn mexri tis ekloges ston k. Shmith kai oxi ston k. Papandreoy, ektos ki an kanw laqos.

PRWTOPAPAS: To antiqeto eipa. An prosejate, stamatw stis 23 Ianoyarioy. Kai gia na ginw pio safhs sas lew oti o k. Shmiths qa einai Prwqypoyrgos mexri tis problepomenes syntagmatikes proqesmies kai qa askei plhrws ta kaqhkonta toy ws Prwqypoyrgos. O k. Papandreoy exei hdh anakoinwsei thn ypochfiothta toy ws Proedros toy PASOK poy, opws fainetai, qa einai kai h monadikh ypochfiothta, h opoia ginetai eyrytata apodekth apo ton kosmo toy PASOK kai apo thn paratajh. Exei poly qetikh aphxhsh mesa sthn ellhnikh koinwnia. O k. Papandreoy qa einai ekeinos poy qa mas odhghsei ston eklogiko agwna kai qa paroysiasei to programma mas kai tis nees politikes mas. Bebaiws, qa einai kai Prwqypoyrgos, otan, opws pisteyoyme, kerdisoyme tis ekloges.

GIANNISHS: Eseis se olh ayth th diarkeia, mexris otoy antikatastaqeite apo ton yphresiako ypoyrgo Typoy, qa apantate ek meroys ths kybernhshs h ek meroys toy k. Papandreoy sthn kritikh poy endexomenws qa askei apenanti toy h N.D.;

PRWTOPAPAS: An sas apanthsw typika, qa sas pw ``ek meroys ths kybernhshs''. Kai kyriws ekei qa meinw. Apo ekei kai pera, epeidh eimaste hdh se mia idiaitera zwntanh politikh periodo, katalabainete oti kai ws politikos qa mpainw ston peirasmo na sxoliazw kai qemata poy aforoyn th genikoterh politikh epikairothta, efoson bebaiws ayto xreiazetai. Alla, oi anakoinwseis kai h genikoterh plhroforhsh, opws kai h paroysiash toy programmatos ths proeklogikhs drasthriothtas toy PASOK, qa ginetai apo ta organa toy Kinhmatos.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Meta thn eklogh toy k. Papandreoy ws Proedroy toy PASOK, poios qa mpei sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, dioti ta eqnika qemata briskontai se mia katastash poy xreiazetai kapoios gia na dieyqynei thn katastash.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto qa to ektimhsei, symfwna me to Syntagma, o Prwqypoyrgos. Otan exw kati, qa sas to pw.

BITALHS: O oysiastikos logos poy epikalesthke o Prwqypoyrgos gia thn prokhryjh prowrwn eklogwn stis 7 Marth, htan oi ejelijeis sto Kypriako.

PRWTOPAPAS: Pragmati.

BITALHS: Einai to diaggelma toy. Tis teleytaies hmeres kai idiaitera xqes, apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias eixame kapoies kinhseis anaforika me to Kypriako. Yparxei ena sxedio poy qelei na kataqesei h Toyrkia, anaforika me ena neo gyro synomiliwn. Kapoia shmeia gnwstopoihqhkan ston Typo, apo ta opoia yparxei enas problhmatismos, opws gia thn paramonh twn strateymatwn, megaloy ariqmoy epoikwn k.t.l.. Qelw thn ektimhsh ths kybernhshs gia th stash poy threi h Toyrkia se ayto to zhthma shmera kai gia tis qeseis poy hdh exoyn paroysiastei apo th xqesinh syskech toy k. Sezer me thn politikostratiwtikh hgesia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Epeidh den exoyn ekdhlwqei akomh oi toyrkikes proqeseis, yparxei mia fash entonhs kinhtikothtas. To kalytero poy exoyme na kanoyme einai na parakoloyqoyme stena ayth thn kinhtikothta. Emeis exoyme tis qeseis mas kai einai jekaqares. Tis exei perigracei kai o Prwqypoyrgos prosfata sthn apanthtikh epistolh toy pros ton Proedro twn HPA, alla kai o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, epaneilhmmena. Bebaiws, qa broyme katallhloys tropoys gia na prowqhsoyme aytes tis qeseis.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Pantws, h epistolh Mpoys pros ton k. Shmith @qa to gnwrizete kala- dhmioyrghse entash kai dysareskeia sthn Kypriakh Dhmokratia, giati o k. Mpoys sthn oysia prospaqei na pei ston k. Shmith na peisei ton k. Papadopoylo na dexqei synomilies basei orismenwn zhthmatwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: To qema ayto to exei kalycei o Prwqypoyrgos me thn apanthsh toy.

ZOYLAS: Mexri protinos @kai ofeilw nomizw na to kanw ayto to erwthma- se ayth thn aiqoysa mas legate kai apodidate tis fhmes poy yphrxan se merida toy Typoy, se senaria ths Dejias kai ennow tis fhmes gia thn antikatastash toy k. Shmith. Kaqws mas diabebaiwnate mexri pro 20hmeroy oti o k. Shmiths qa hgeito toy PASOK twn epomenwn eklogwn, qa hqela na moy peite ean synexizete na exete thn idia ektimhsh: Ta senaria dhladh poy proerxontan telikws apo tis dejies efhmerides, kaqws blepw oti yparxoyn, sxedon, proeilhmmenes apofaseis apo ton perasmeno Ioylio.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa hqela, kat` arxas, na sas parapemcw stis dhlwseis moy peri senariwn ths Dejias kai ean prosejete qa deite oti apo katw anaferetai sta dhmosieymata peri dhqen kontras toy Prwqypoyrgoy me to Grammatea toy kommatos Mixalh Xrysoxoidh. Epeidh, loipon, opws exete diapistwsei kai meta thn parodo mhnwn tetoia kontra, oyte yphrje, oyte yparxei, alla yphrje mia taytoxronh dhmosieysh tetoiwn -entos eisagwgikwn- plhroforiwn, ekeinh thn hmera, htan safes oti eprokeito gia ena senario poy eixe anaptyxqei apo to sygkekrimeno politiko xwro, ena senario to opoio den eixe kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Kai se ayto epimenw kai shmera. Oi dhlwseis moy peri senariwn ths Dejias aforoyn th dhqen kontra Proedroy kai Grammatea toy kommatos. H apoch poy ejefrasa exei dikaiwqei kai bebaiws ta senaria ayta exoyn pesei sto keno.

Oson afora tis dhlwseis moy, peri paramonhs sto timoni toy kommatos, epomenws kai sthn poreia pros tis ekloges, toy k. Shmith, oi opoies htan kai dikes moy, alla kai dhlwseis, opws gnwrizete, toy synoloy twn stelexwn toy PASOK: Kat` arxas, gnwrizete para poly kala, oti o Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos otan anakoinwnei tetoia zhthmata exei synennohqei armodiws. Kai deyteron, gnwrizete para poly kala oti o Prwqypoyrgos otan kaleitai h otan epiqymei na labei tetoies istorikes apofaseis, me idiaiterh politikh barythta, tis lambanei otan aytos aisqanetai oti einai etoimos na tis parei kai tis anakoinwnei o idios, opws epraje. Nomizw oti qa htan idiaitera arnhtiko na anakoinwnoyme kati diaforetiko, otan o idios den eixe parei tetoia apofash h otan o idios ektimoyse oti ekeinh thn periodo ayto poy proexei htan to kybernhtiko ergo kai h oloklhrwsh toy, idiaitera se krisimes stigmes, opws htan h Synodos Koryfhs kai o Proypologismos. Epeidh, oloi katalabainoyme apo thn politikh zwh kai apo thn ejyphrethsh twn pragmatikwn symferontwn ths xwras kai twn politwn, nomizw oti den xreiazetai na epixeirhmatologhsw parapera.

KARGOYDH: Apo th xqesinh omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn Kentrikh Epitroph, kai malista apo thn epiklhsh apospasmatos omilias toy sthn Kentrikh Epitroph toy Ioynioy, egw symperana oti o k. Shmiths kalei emmesws, plhn safws, ta stelexh ths idias me ton idio genias na analaboyn kai aytoi tis eyqynes toys kai symballontas sto egxeirhma ths ananewshs na perasoyn se deyteres, trites, en pash periptwsei, na arxisoyn mia stash apostasiopoihshs apo ta pragmata toy kybernhtikoy kommatos.

PRWTOPAPAS: H omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai poly safhs, den nomizw oti xrhzei peraiterw sxoliasmoy.

KOYIN: Sto KYSEA ti prokeitai na syzhthqei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa sas pw analytika thn Trith.

KOYIN: Oson afora th DESOP problepontai synanthseis mexri tis ekloges;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa ginoyn. Qa yparjei plhrhs kybernhtikh drasthriothta.

KOYIN: Kai kata th diarkeia ths proeklogikhs periodoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean prepei, ean ektimhsei o Prwqypoyrgos, o opoios proedreyei ths DESOP, oti xreiazetai na sygklhqei, qa sygklhqei. Qelw na to katanohsete, den xalarwnei h kybernhtikh drasthriothta.

MIXAHL: Symplhrwmatika sthn erwthsh toy k. Koyin, mporei h kybernhsh na mas diabebaiwsei oti h poreia ths proolympiakhs proetoimasias den qa ephreastei apo thn entonh proeklogikh periodo; Sas to lew ayto, dioti exoyme plhrofories oti sthn Organwtikh Epitroph toy 2004 einai problhmatismenoi apo olh ayth thn prospaqeia. An gia kapoioys mhnes se ayto to krisimo diasthma den leitoyrghsei me toys idioys ryqmoys antilambaneste oti tiqentai en amfibolw polla zhthmata.

PRWTOPAPAS: To antiqeto. Den gnwrizw tis plhrofories sas, den exw akoysei kati tetoio. Omws, qelw na jekaqarisw kata ton pio apolyto tropo, oti se kamia periptwsh den prokeitai na ephreastei h synexeia ths Olympiakhs proetoimasias. Otan xreiastei na parembei o Prwqypoyrgos me kapoio tropo, eidika se qemata poy aforoyn thn kybernhsh, qa to kanei, eite mesw DESOP, eite me opoiodhpote allo tropo krinei ekeinos anagkaio. H Olympiakh proetoimasia proxwra kanonika. Qa elega, oti piqanon, na einai kai qetiko to gegonos oti oi ekloges ginontai stis 7 Martioy, wste h teleytaia kai pio krisimh fash ths proetoimasias na ejelixqei se mh proeklogikh periodo, alla se synhqh politikh periodo.

ZOYLAS: Qa hqela thn apoch ths kybernhshs, an kapoioi boyleytes, peri toys 20 an qymamai kala, oi opoioi exoyn dhlwsei oti den epiqymoyn na kateboyn stis epomenes ekloges, einai eyprosdektoi, efoson to epiqymoyn pleon, me th nea hgesia toy kommatos.

PRWTOPAPAS: Se ayta ta zhthmata yparxoyn anafores, mexri twra, polles, kai fantazomai oti qa yparjoyn kai apo th nea hgesia toy kommatos sth synexeia. Ayto, omws, qa to krinei o k. Papandreoy.

SIDERHS: Exw dyo erwthseis: H prwth afora ta diabathria kai thn tapeinwsh poy ypesth h Ellada me to na einai h monh xwra ths E.E. poy xreiazetai (den akoygetai). Den qa sas pw ayto to laikistiko, poy akoysthke sta paraqyra, giati den antidrasate, giati den mporoysate na antidrasete@

PRWTOPAPAS: Antidrasame. Exete adiko, exete kakh plhroforhsh.

SIDERHS: Kai na antidrasate, shmasia exei oti oi Amerikanoi ayth th fora exoyn dikio. Jerete oti yparxei problhma, k. Ekproswpe, me ta diabathria. Kaqe laqrometanasths me 10, 20, 30 xiliades mporei na bgalei stis Nomarxies diabathrio. Eixe pei h kybernhsh, edw kai tessera xronia, oti qa ta analabei h Astynomia, na ta ekdidoyn oi Arxes Asfaleias. Giati den to kanate tosa xronia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sthn topoqethsh sas exete se ena shmeio adiko, se allo shmeio exete kapoio dikio. Poy exete adiko: Sto oti den antidrasame. Opws jerete yphrje diabhma.

KOYIN: Oxi, pote egine diabhma;

PRWTOPAPAS: Eklhqh o epitetrammenos ths amerikanikhs presbeias.

KOYIN: Den anakoinwqhke pote ayto.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eklhqh o epitetrammenos. Yparxoyn sxetikes dhlwseis toy yfypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn Andrea Loberdoy gia to qema ayto. Eginan, xqes, se radiofwniko staqmo.

KOYIN: Syggnwmh, alla to na anakoinwnei kati enas yfypoyrgos se ena radiofwniko staqmo, den einai@

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai ``enas yfypoyrgos'', einai o yfypoyrgos Ejwterikwn.

KOYIN: Allo sas lew, Ypoyrge moy, giati ayto ginetai synexeia. Otan o yfypoyrgos kanei mia anakoinwsh se ena radiofwniko staqmo, den einai anakoinwsh ths kybernhshs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas to anakoinwnw shmera kai pisteyw oti sas kalyptw. Yphrje sxetikh prosklhsh toy epitetrammenoy ths Presbeias, dioti o k. Miler apoysiaze. Ara, yphrje antidrash ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Sas eipa oti to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn dia toy k. Loberdoy exei topoqethqei ep` aytoy.

Ws pros to deytero shmeio, yparxei mia pragmatikothta, oti prepei na trejoyme kai sthn Ellada kai na ftiajoyme to neo diabathrio. Symfwna me osa eipe kai o G.G. toy ypoyrgeioy Dhmosias Tajhs k. Eystaqiadhs, exei epitaxynqei ayth h diadikasia. Qa yparjoyn syntoma ta nea diabathria, opote qa parelqei kai apo thn pleyra twn HPA h efarmogh enos tetoioy metroy. O k. Eystaqiadhs sthn topoqethsh toy exei anaferqei analytika sta osa syndeontai me ta nea diabathria. Qelw na qymisw oti ta nea diabathria, symfwna kai me tis apofaseis ths E.E., einai mia ypoqesh poy afora kaqe kratos-melos, ypokeitai dhladh kai stis eqnikes apofaseis.

SIDERHS: Kai h deyterh erwthsh exei sxesh me to ESR kai ton Proedro, o opoios qelei na dwsei adeies prin apo tis ekloges. To briskete dokimo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kamia parembash sto ergo toy ESR.

SIDERHS: An yparjei qema periqwrioy nomiko, an den bgainoyn oi hmeromhnies, qa hsastan diateqeimenos na kataqesete tropologia, giati akoygetai mia apoch, isws na mh bohqoyn oi hmeromhnies kai h proqesmia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qa parembw sto ergo toy ESR.

SIDERHS: Tropologia qa kataqetate;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qa parembw. Eimai safhs. Den qa parembw sto ergo toy ESR. Exw kataqesei, exw proteinei ston Proedro ths Dhmokratias @kai exei ypografei- ena plhres Proedriko Diatagma, exei dhmosieyqei sthn Efhmerida ths Kybernhsews. To P.D. poy kaqorizei toys oroys gia th dienergeia toy diagwnismoy, kaqorizei me ton pio plhrh, safh kai kaqaro tropo toys oroys dienergeias toy diagwnismoy, isxyei, efarmozetai. Symfwna me to nomo thn prokhryjh kanei to ESR, to opoio exei kai thn apokleistikh armodiothta gia th xorhghsh twn adeiwn. Bebaiws, ofeilei na thrhsei to nomo. Ara, to monadiko ergo toy ypoyrgeioy einai na parakoloyqei thn efarmogh toy nomoy. Tipote allo. Den exei th dynatothta @ kai den epiqymoyme kiolas- gia kamia allh parembash. Kai den qa ginei. Eleyqera, opws ayth nomizei, h Anejarthth Arxh, qa proxwrhsei sto diagwnismo.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kai an paranomhsei, eseis qa meinete ametoxos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxei to P.D., alla gia toys xronoys kai tis diadikasies kai tis apofaseis kai ta moria k.o.k. yparxei armodios. Kai opws gnwrizete symfwna me to P.D., opoios aisqanetai adikhmenos @prosejte k. Siderh eseis poy asxoleiste me ayta- exei th dynatothta prosfygwn poy orizei o nomos. An kapoios ektima oti adikhqhke den paei sto ypoyrgeio. To jekaqarizw ayto. Katafeygei sto StE, opws orizei o nomos. To ypoyrgeio den exei kamia doyleia kai den prokeitai na asxolhqei me qemata adeiwn.

MIXAHL: Epeidh o xronos poy apomenei mexri th dialysh ths Boylhs einai akribws enas mhnas, ara mesa se ayto to mhna qa prepei na chfistoyn orismena krisima nomosxedia@

PRWTOPAPAS: Jerete pote einai h dialysh ths Boylhs;

MIXAHL: Bebaiws. Otan lete ekloges 7 Martioy, qa prepei na ginei, to argotero, 9 Febroyarioy, basei twn syntagmatikwn proqesmiwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Entos mhnos leei o nomos.

MIXAHL: Entos mhnos, ara 7 me 9 Febroyarioy.

PRWTOPAPAS: As mhn to lysoyme twra.

MIXAHL: En pash periptwsei, mporeite na mas diabebaiwsete oti ena apo ta nomosxedia, to opoio qa qelhsete na chfisete, einai to nomosxedio gia ton eklogiko nomo;

PRWTOPAPAS: To exw pei. To exw pei se polloys apo esas ws epishmh plhroforhsh se thlefwnikh epikoinwnia poy eixame kai to lew kai apo edw: Nai, qeloyme na chfistei o eklogikos nomos, qeloyme na chfistei to nomosxedio gia thn Apasxolhsh poy kateqese to ypoyrgeio Ergasias, opws kai to nomosxedio gia to Asfalistiko. Kai bebaia, ayto poy exei hdh proxwrhsei, to nomosxedio toy ypoyrgeioy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn poy perilambanei forologikes diatajeis, alla kai diatajeis gia ta koinwnika metra, poy hdh einai se ejelijh. O eklogikos nomos exei perasei apo th Diarkh Epitroph, an den kanw laqos.

MIXAHL: Endiaferei na chfistei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ma afoy perase apo th Diarkh Epitroph, dromologhqhke. Politika nai. Eimai safhs: Nai, qeloyme na chfistei.

KOYIN: Sxetika me to erwthma toy k. Siderh, exei prokycei kai ena allo qema oson afora tis aerometafores stis HPA kai hqela na sas rwthsw ean exei zhthqei apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh na balei enoploys froyroys stis pthseis ths Olympiakhs. To rwtaw, giati einai kybernhtikh qesh, den einai mono toy ypoyrgoy Metaforwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den nomizw oti yparxei tetoio qema. Qa kanw kai ena akomh tsekarisma gia th Deytera, alla den nomizw oti yparxei tetoio qema.

KOLIOPOYLOY: Mia dieykrinish gia to qema ths bizas. Pote egine h prosklhsh toy epitetrammenoy ths Presbeias kai ti akribws elexqh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Panta se aytes tis periptwseis zhtoyntai kapoies ejhghseis, sxetika me to ti exei ginei, dinontai oi ejhghseis, jekaqarizontai kapoia pragmata kai dhmioyrgeitai h bash gia mia kalyterh synennohsh sth synexeia.

KOLIOPOYLOY: Pote egine;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prin apo mia, dyo hmeres.

GIANNISHS: Na epanelqoyme sto qema ths kritikhs poy askei h Ajiwmatikh Antipoliteysh me thn paroysa katastash poy exei dhmioyrghqei sto kybernwn komma. Sthn oysia to PASOK emfanizetai h brisketai ayth th stigmh me dyo hgetes. Yparxei syllogikh eyqynh gia ta osa exoyn ginei sto kybernhtiko ergo ta teleytaia xronia; Exei kai o k. Papandreoy thn idia eyqynh, opws toy katalogizei h N.D.;

PRWTOPAPAS: Giati to komma exei dyo hgetes; Ta pragmata einai safh. O Prwqypoyrgos qa syntonisei kai qa prowqhsei to kybernhtiko ergo sto dimhno poy apomenei. Kai ayto to jekaqarise xqes kata ton pio kathgorhmatiko tropo. O k. Papandreoy, symfwna kai me to klima poy exei dhmioyrghqei sthn koinwnia, qa einai o Proedros mas kai qa mas odhghsei kai me tis programmatikes qeseis toy kai me tis alles prwtoboylies toy ston eklogiko agwna kai opws pisteyoyme sth nikh. Kai qa einai, efoson o ellhnikos laos mas timhsei me thn chfo toy, opws elpizoyme, kai Prwqypoyrgos apo tis 8 Martioy.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Den apokleisate to endexomeno na aneboyn sto idio mpalkoni sthn Krhth@

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa hdh oti to komma qa exei enan Proedro. Kai h kybernhsh, opws panta, exei enan Prwqypoyrgo. Den yparxei kanena qema kai kamia emplokh. Apo ekei kai pera, se sxesh me thn Ajiwmatikh Antipoliteysh -na to tonisw, giati nomizw oti kapoia pragmata prepei na ta jekaqarizoyme synexws- perna mia periodo megalhs sygxyshs. Akoysthkan apoceis toy typoy, oti einai ``epikoinwniako trik'' h ``texnasma''. Oyte trik htan, oyte texnasma. Koryfaia politikh kinhsh htan ayth toy Kwsta Shmith. Akomh akoysthkan apoceis toy typoy oti prokeitai gia ``politikh synwmosia'', opws koryfaio stelexos toy kommatos ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs eipe kaqara proxqes. Kai malista to dhmosiopoihse kai graptws. Loipon, akoysame polla tetoia pragmata poy den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta kai den apodeiknyoyn tipota allo, para monon oti to komma ayto brisketai se neyrikh krish. Den einai ayto, omws, poy endiaferei ton ellhniko lao. Den noiazontai oi polites gi` ayto. Ayto einai ena qema ths N.D. Oi polites noiazontai gia to ti qa kanoyme gia ta problhmata toys. Kai ayth th stigmh strefoyn to endiaferon toys pros emas. Prosdokoyn apo emas, perimenoyn apanthseis, perimenoyn nees prwtoboylies kai politikes. Kai qa antapokriqoyme se aytes. Kai mesa apo thn antapokrish mas qa dhmioyrghsoyme synqhkes nikhs. Emeis dhmioyrgoyme to neo politiko skhniko. H N.D., fysiko einai, na exei th dikh ths proeklogikh drasthriothta. Ekeino poy elpizoyme oloi einai o proeklogikos agwnas na ginei panw se politikes qeseis, me paraqesh kai antiparaqesh politikwn apocewn, giati ayto xreiazetai h ellhnikh koinwnia shmera, oso pote.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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