Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-11-13

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 13 Noembrioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Gnwrizete oti prin apo ligh wra teleiwse h syskech sto PASOK, meta to peras ths opoias o Prwqypoyrgos proebh se dhlwseis gia thn perifereiakh diarqrwsh ths xwras. Analytikes dhlwseis gia to qema ayto qa kanei o ypoyrgos Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs Kwstas Skandalidhs.

Prin dexqw tis erwthseis sas ofeilw mia apanthsh se xqesinh erwthsh toy k. Filh gia toys logoys ths metaforas twn epta kratoymenwn stis fylakes Korydalloy. H metafora toys egine gia thn prostasia ths ygeias toys, epeidh h edw pteryga diaqetei kalytera mesa.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

FILHS: Gnwrizete an yparxei kapoia epispeysh sthn ekdikash ths ypoqeshs, dioti den exei kan oristei h dikasimos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto einai qema dikaiosynhs. Apo th dikh mas pleyra den yparxei kamia kaqysterhsh. Desmeythka na sas apanthsw gia th metafora, h opoia egine gia thn prostasia ths ygeias toys, epeidh h edw pteryga diaqetei kalytera mesa.

FILHS: Yparxei qema astynomikhs ereynas gia thn poreia poy egine xqes ejw apo to spiti toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws me enhmerwse o ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs Giwrgos Flwridhs den yparxei qema. H odos Anagnwstopoyloy einai dhmosios dromos.

FILHS: Ara, mporei kaneis na kanei poreies ekei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei qema ereynas.

SIDERHS: Problhmatizei kaqoloy thn kybernhsh h ekqesh toy Economist poy leei oti h Ellada einai paradeigma pros apofygh gia tis nees xwres ths E.E.; Milaei gia diaspaqish@

PRWTOPAPAS: Fobamai oti den exete diabasei kala thn ekqesh.

SIDERHS: Kanete laqos. Eimai dhmosiografos kai epilegw ta shmeia aixmhs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Na epilejete kai ekeino poy leei oti meta to '90 kai kyriws meta to '95, otan h Ellada apofasise na palecei gia na mpei sthn ONE kai thn kardia ths eyrwpaikhs oikonomias, ta pragmata einai poly kalytera. Ayto gia paradeigma den to diabasate.

SIDERHS: Kai meta atonhse pali.

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws, den diabasate kai to shmeio poy leei: H Ellada anaptyssetai grhgorotera apo oles tis alles xwres-melh ths E.E.. Ta teleytaia xronia ayjhqhkan kata 54% oi koinwnikes dapanes sthn Ellada. Oi ependyseis sthn Ellada, ayth th stigmh, ayjanontai peripoy kata 10%, th stigmh kata thn opoia stis alles eyrwpaikes xwres einai mhdenikes. Kai ola ayta, enw exoyme dwsei kai ena poly megalo meros toy AEP gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes.

SIDERHS: Xairomai poy den eiste kaqoloy epilektikos, alla blepw ptwsh toy kata kefalhn AEP apo to 69% sto 66%.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas lew kai pali oti den to exete diabasei kala.

KARGOYDH: Sxetika me th synedriash poy eixate qelw na rwthsw ean exete katalhjei, oson afora tis armodiothtes twn diaforwn apokentrwmenwn organwn. Dhladh, an qa einai eklegmeno h oxi to perifereiako symboylio kai o Perifereiarxhs, an qa exei enisxymenes armodiothtes@;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia tis leptomereies qa yparjei kai syndiaskech toy PASOK, opoy qa syzhthqoyn diejodika ayta ta qemata. Egine mia prwth syzhthsh panw sto megalo qema ths apokentrwshs kai ths neas perifereiakhs organwshs toy kratoys. Egine eyrytath antallagh apocewn gia ola ta qemata. O k. Skandalidhs qa paroysiasei kapoies prwtes skeceis poy qa apantoyn se polla erwthmata. Sth synexeia qa yparjei analytikotath eishghsh sth syndiaskech toy PASOK, sthn opoia hdh anaferqhke o Prwqypoyrgos. Sthn eishghsh ayth qa anaferontai ta sygkekrimena qemata, oi ariqmoi, oi enallaktikes lyseis kai oi kateyqynseis poy yparxoyn.

KARGOYDH: Rwtw, giati prosfata me thn paroysiash toy programmatos ths N.D. gia thn Topikh Aytodioikhsh, topoqethqhke kai eipe oti oi Perifereiarxes -an qymamai kala- qa einai diorismenoi.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporei na mhn yparxei ekproswpos toy kratoys. H lejh "diorismenos" isws na mhn einai swsth, me thn ennoia oti einai ekproswpos ths organwmenhs politeias, ekproswpos ths kybernhshs, h opoia einai eklegmenh, ws gnwston. Ara, den mporei na mhn yparxei ekproswpos ths kybernhshs, na mhn yparxei kybernhtikh eyqynh sthn perifereia. Yphrje enas eyrytatos problhmatismos, gyrw apo to b@ baqmo Aytodioikhshs, to rolo toy, gyrw apo qemata ekloghs, apo ariqmoys, tropoys organwshs twn Perifereiwn. Yparxei mia prwth katalhjh se genikes kateyqynseis poy paroysiazetai apo ton k. Skandalidh. Analytika ta qemata ayta qa syzhthqoyn sth syndiaskech toy PASOK.

ANTYPAS: An den kanw laqos h perifereiakh anasygkrothsh ths xwras htan sto programma ths tetraetias poy dianyoyme kai eixe anaferqei ws proteraiothta kai ston programmatismo toy Septembrioy. Gia poio logo paei meta tis ekloges;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den paei meta tis ekloges. O dialogos qa ginei prin apo tis ekloges. Gia meta tis ekloges prosdioristhke h nomoqethsh kai ayto gia na mh qewrhqei, epeidh eimaste stoys teleytaioys mhnes, oti ginetai kati bebiasmena, enw prokeitai na apofasisei o ellhnikos laos. O dialogos qa ginei, qa proetoimastoyn sxetikes parembaseis kai otan me to kalo o ellhnikos laos mas dwsei jana thn entolh qa prowqhsoyme kai th sxetikh nomoqetikh ryqmish.

FILHS: Xqes, o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Giwrgos Papandreoy se dhlwsh toy gia thn epiqesh sthn Nasirigia, ekane logo gia tromokratikh energeia. Hqela na rwthsw, ean h qesh ths kybernhshs einai pws oi prajeis enantion twn dynamewn katoxhs -giati einai dynameis katoxhs sto Irak- synistoyn tromokratikh energeia.

PRWTOPAPAS: H epiqesh ayth einai ston orismo ths tromokratikhs energeias. Den prokeitai gia kapoias morfhs maziko kinhma, to opoio phge na diadhlwsei. Htan prajh kaqara tromokratikh, bombistikh epiqesh.

FILHS: Kaqe bombistikh epiqesh einai tromokratikh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gi ayth th sygkekrimenh milhsa.

FILHS: Yparxoyn dynameis katoxhs ekei; Kaqe kinhma antistashs enantion twn dynamewn katoxhs, qewreitai tromokratia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exoyme ayth thn apoch. Htan kaqara mia epiqesh, me to xarakthrismo poy edwse o k. Papandreoy kai symfwnoyme me ayton.

FILHS: Shmera, Israhlinos ypoyrgos xarakthrise ``Gkempels'', ton k. Qeodwrakh, sxetika me tis dhlwseis toy gia tis opoies kanate ki eseis xqes dhlwsh. Qa hqela ena sxolio.

PRWTOPAPAS: H dhlwsh moy exei dyo skelh kai den exw kati allo na prosqesw.

FILHS: Epeidh aisqanqhkate thn anagkh na bgalete dhlwsh me thn opoia sthn arxh apodokimazete ton k. Qeodwrakh...

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, den apodokimazw ton k. Qeodwrakh.

FILHS: Tis dhlwseis toy k. Qeodwrakh. Lete den tis symmerizeste. Ara, tis apodokimazete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den symmerizomaste kai den symfwnoyme me tis dhlwseis toy gia ``riza kakoy''. Apo kei kai pera, omws, qelw na jekaqarisw oti, opws anaferetai kai sth deyterh paragrafo ths dhlwshs moy o k. Qeodwrakhs exei diadramatisei energo rolo sthn ypoqesh twn apeleyqerwtikwn kinhmatwn. Malista, exei staqei konta kai sthn Ebraikh Koinothta. Einai gnwsto oti exei melopoihsei to ergo Maoytxaoyzen. O k. Qeodwrakhs exei prosferei para polla ston topo -ayto to anaferei kai h xqesinh anakoinwsh moy- kai ston tomea toy politismoy kai ston tomea twn laikwn diekdikhsewn kai katakthsewn. Einai safes oti h dhlwsh moy exei dyo skelh: To ena afora tis sygkekrimenes dhlwseis gia to qema ``riza toy kakoy'', to deytero afora thn plhrh ektimhsh, thn opoia trefoyme sto proswpo toy k. Qeodwrakh, thn opoia dhlwnoyme anoikta me kaqe tropo.

FILHS: Aisqanqhkate thn politikh anagkh, xqes, na sxoliasete politika mia dhlwsh enos diakekrimenoy sympolith mas, alla polith, oxi dhmosioy ajiwmatoyxoy. Ayto to kanate ws kybernhtikos ekproswpos. Shmera aytos o diashmos Ellhnas poliths dexetai thn aprokalypth kai ahqh epiqesh Israhlinoy ypoyrgoy. Sxolio exete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Rwthsate kai apanthsa.

FILHS: Egw rwtw.

PRWTOPAPAS: To prwto skelos topoqeteitai panw se mia prwth dhlwsh toy k. Qeodwrakh, o opoios me deyterh dhlwsh toy -ean qymamai kala- exei epanatopoqethqei. Sth synexeia ths dhlwshs moy, jekaqarizw thn plhrh ektimhsh ths kybernhshs sto proswpo toy k. Qeodwrakh, o opoios, ean moy zhtate na to pw, fysika den exei kamia sxesh me ``Gkempels''.

FILHS: Yparxei dhlwsh toy Israhlinoy ypoyrgoy. Exete kapoio eyqy sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme kleisei, kyrie Filh, gi ayto to qema. Allh erwthsh.

PEGKOS: Ean exete kapoio sxolio gia th metabolh sth synqesh ths K.O. ths N.D. me thn paraithsh toy k. Katsikh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayta einai eswterika zhthmata ths N.D. Den exw kanena sxolio.

SIDERHS: Poia h skopimothta ths xqesinhs sas dhlwshs gia ton k. Qeodwrakh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yphrje ena gramma toy Kentrikoy Israhlitikoy Symboylioy, to opoio hrqe se emena, kai to opoio synexee -kata th gnwmh moy lanqasmena- thn paroysia dyo ypoyrgwn stis anafores poy eixe kanei o Mikhs Qeodwrakhs -kakws janalegw- oti h paroysia twn dyo ypoyrgwn exei na kanei me kalych kapoiwn sygkekrimenwn anaforwn oti ``oi Ebraioi einai h riza toy kakoy''. Epeidh oi dyo ypoyrgoi den eixan kamia diaqesh, na symfwnhsoyn se ena tetoio qema, alla den epetrepe o xwros na ginei kapoia allh anafora -dioti eipe kati o Mikhs Qeodwrakhs kai teleiwse h sxetikh ekdhlwsh- kriname skopimo na jekaqarisoyme oti: Gia ton xarakthrismo toy Mikh Qeodwrakh, den eimaste symfwnoi. Gia ton Mikh Qeodwrakh, omws, oxi mono ws moysikos, alla kai ws poliths ayths ths xwras, me th megalh prosfora toy, exei thn plhrh ektimhsh mas. Tonisa, prin apo ligo, oti o xarakthrismos ``Gkempels'', den exei fysika kamia sxesh me to Mikh Qeodwrakh. Einai safes oti diafwnoyme se tetoioy eidoys xarakthrismoys. Pisteyw oti antilambaneste poly kala oti eprepe na kanoyme mia topoqethsh, apo th stigmh poy epixeirhqhke na ginei sygxysh me thn paroysia twn ypoyrgwn, opws kanoyme kai shmera topoqethsh, gia to qema poy akoysthke peri ``Gkempels''.

PEGKOS: Symfwna me to iatriko anakoinwqen o k. Mhtsotakhs epaqe salmonela, epaqe trofikh dhlhthriash. Symfwna me tis plhrofories prepei na to epaqe thn prohgoymenh hmera poy htan sth dejiwsh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias pros timhn toy Boylgaroy Proedroy. Gnwrizete mhpws epaqe kai kapoios allos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas parakalw poly den eimai ygeionomikos giatros gia na ejetazw trofima!

Sas eyxaristw.

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