Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-08-28

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 28 Aygoystoy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Opws gnwrizete, synedriase shmera to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Antikeimeno ths syzhthshs htan qemata Paideias. Meta to peras ths synedriashs o Prwqypoyrgos proebh se sxetikes dhlwseis.

Me thn enarjh ths synedriashs o Prwqypoyrgos eipe ta ejhs:

"Oloi katalabainoyme oti h periodos ayth einai mia periodos - proklhsh, proklhsh gia na oloklhrwsoyme to ergo mas, na enhmerwsoyme gi` ayto, giati xreiazetai, na dwsoyme oles tis aparaithtes plhrofories kai na katadeijoyme th shmasia toy kai taytoxrona na anadeijoyme tis prooptikes ths politikhs mas, na anadeijoyme pws doylecame kai doyleyoyme gia to mellon.

Xreiazetai, loipon, toys mhnes aytoys, mexri thn anoijh toy 2004, egrhgorsh, kinhtikothta kai apotelesmatikothta. Xreiazetai, bebaiws, kai synergasia, synexhs synergasia. Xreiazetai metajy mas symparastash kai omonoia. Xreiazetai propantos koinh grammh sta problhmata poy qa antimetwpisoyme. Giati qa yparxoyn problhmata ta opoia qa prokycoyn kai qa elega arketa.

Merika apo ayta ta problhmata exoyn ena koino xarakthristiko. Qa einai aporroia ths prospaqeias ths antipoliteyshs kai koinwnikwn forewn, oi opoioi ephreazontai apo thn antipoliteysh -kaqorizei ayth th symperifora toys- na dhmioyrghsoyn ena klima koinwnikhs antiparaqeshs, wste na diamorfwsoyn ena eynoiko klima gia tis epomenes ekloges, eynoiko gia thn antipoliteysh.

H alhqeia einai oti yparxoyn panta qemata. H alhqeia einai oti oles oi koinwnikes omades -kai ayto anagnwrizetai apo emas- epidiwkoyn, kai swsta epidiwkoyn, th synexh beltiwsh twn synqhkwn ergasias kai twn eisodhmatwn toys. Ayth h beltiwsh synqhkwn zwhs kai eisodhmatwn einai zhtoymeno kai gia mas. Omws, den ginontai ola edw kai twra. Giati, an epidiwjoyme na ta kanoyme ola edw kai twra, qa petyxoyme akribws to antiqeto apotelesma. Emeis, apenanti se ayth thn prospaqeia poy qa arxisei na jetyligetai apo to Septembrio -exoyn hdh proanaggeilei kapoioi, mhnes twra, oti prokeitai na kinhtopoihqoyn- prepei na staqoyme sthn programmatismenh politikh, sto plaisio toy proypologismoy, o opoios yparxei kai sto plaisio toy oikonomikoy sxediasmoy gia ton epomeno xrono.

Prepei na staqoyme staqera, xwris distagmoys, xwris amfibolies, giati an arxisoyn oi distagmoi kai oi amfibolies, oi diekdikhseis kai oi pieseis qa pollaplasiastoyn akariaia kai qa yparxei h peistikh protroph gia oloys: Opoios zhtaei kati twra, kati qa parei. Ayto den prepei na perasei. Giati, an perasei, qa exei ws synepeia thn politikh akyrwsh toy politikoy sxediasmoy mas, toy koinwnikoy paketoy, to opoio prokeitai na ejaggeiloyme thn epomenh ebdomada, ths "Xartas Sygklishs", gia thn opoia qa syzhthsoyme meta th DEQ. Qa qewrhqoyn ayta, to koinwniko paketo, h Xarta Sygklishs, ws dedomena h peperasmena kai apoteloyn mono mia bash gia peraiterw diekdikhseis. Kai den qa einai etsi. Giati, emeis ejantloyme, me bash ayta ta opoia qa problecoyme kai qa sxediasoyme, tis dynatothtes mas.

Synepeia, loipon, ths amfiqymhs stashs, kai o,ti mporei na synepagetai ayth h amfiqymh stash, qa einai h akyrwsh toy oikonomikoy sxediasmoy mas. Kai h antipoliteysh, bebaiws kai dikaiws, qa isxyristei oti o dhmosionomikos sxediasmos den einai kalos, oti prepei na anaqewrhqei kai etsi qa exoyme ena kyrio qema eklogwn, to opoio den prepei na exoyme. Dioti oi ekloges -kai qelw na to tonisw kai pali, to exw tonisei para polles fores- krinontai apo thn oikonomikh empistosynh twn politwn, apo to an exoyn amfibolies, an blepoyn prooptikes h oxi.

Ean, loipon, yparxei anasfaleia, tote ayto einai se baros mas. Kai den prepei na yparxei anasfaleia. Prepei na deijoyme staqerothta kai na deijoyme oti h politikh mas den ejantleitai mexri thn anoijh toy 2004. Den einai aytos o orizontas ths politikhs mas. Twra, akomh, ayth th stigmh, o orizontas ths politikhs mas prepei na einai to 2008. Kai bebaiws na deijoyme oti h politikh mas exei krithrio to symferon toy topoy. Den exei krithrio thn anoijh toy 2004, alla to symferon ths xwras. Na deijoyme oti osoi pisteyoyn oti hrqe h stigmh na ekmetalleytoyn th sygkyria, kanoyn megalo laqos.

Akoloyqhsame me kopoys, oktw xronia, mia politikh staqerothtas kai anaptyjhs kai ayth thn politikh qa akoloyqhsoyme kai twra. Kai gi` ayto sas parakalw, na dwsoyme idiaiterh shmasia se ayto to shmeio, giati ekei qa kerdisoyme th maxh.

Loipon, ayto to opoio apaiteitai einai h diathrhsh ths staqerothtas kai ths ajiopistias, h empedwsh toy kaloy klimatos poy arxizei kai dhmioyrgeitai sthn oikonomia, h empistosynh twn politwn sthn oikonomia, h kefalaiopoihsh toy kybernhtikoy ergoy -kati shmantiko poy mporoyme na kanoyme- h afairesh prwtoboyliwn apo thn antipoliteysh.

H prwtoboylia na einai diarkws sta xeria mas. Kai ayto einai shmantiko, na yparxei aeras nikhs kai prooptikhs. H nikh ejartatai apo emas, to pisteyw akradanta, kai qa einai dikh mas, an pistecoyme kai doylecoyme gi` ayth.

Thn epomenh ebdomada, thn Pempth stis 9.30 to prwi, exw sygkalesei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, wste na exoyme arketo xrono na syzhthsoyme to programma ths doyleias mas toy epomenoy ejamhnoy."

Epishs, o Prwqypoyrgos mas zhthse na paradwsoyme, ews th Deytera 1h Septembrioy, ston ypoyrgo Epikrateias A. Akribakh, mia dhlwsh enos diaqesimoy dihmeroy kaqe mhna, gia ena neo programma periodeiwn gia to diasthma Septembrioy - Dekembrioy. Qa yparxoyn diadoxikes syskeceis gi` aytes tis periodeies, tis opoies qa analabei o k. Akribakhs kai qa metexoyn diadoxika oi ypoyrgoi kai yfypoyrgoi, oi boyleytes toy nomoy, opoy qa ginontai oi periodeies kai o grammateas ths kaqe Nomarxiakhs Epitrophs, wste na diamorfwqei to programma kai to periexomeno ths episkechs toy kaqe ypoyrgoy h yfypoyrgoy sto nomo.

To Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, opws hdh gnwrizete, epeleje tesseris neoys perifereiarxes: To Dhmhtrh Skamnakh, ws geniko grammatea ths Perifereias Hpeiroy, to Stefano Patramanh, ws geniko grammatea ths Perifereias Anatolikhs Stereas, to Sakellarh Zafeirh, ws geniko grammatea ths Perifereias Anatolikhs Makedonias - Qrakhs kai to Giannh Papatsakwna, ws geniko Grammatea ths Perifereias Dytikhs Elladas. O genikos grammateas Paylos Papadopoylos metateqhke sthn Perifereia Boreioy Aigaioy. Eyxomaste se oloys kaqe epityxia sto ergo toys.

Prin dexqw tis erwthseis sas, epitrecte moy na kanw dyo sxolia poy aforoyn dhlwseis toy arxhgoy ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs.

To prwto, afora th shmerinh synanthsh toy k. Karamanlh me thn proedro toy "Aqhna 2004" k. Gianna Aggelopoyloy. To qema twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn einai pragmati ena eyaisqhto eqniko qema. H kybernhsh ston tomea poy ths analogei, ston tomea twn ergwn, kanei swsta th doyleia ths kai qa einai etoimh me ton pio apotelesmatiko tropo thn wra poy prepei kai mesa sta xronodiagrammata. O k. Karamanlhs, omws, kala qa kanei, epiteloys, na stamathsei thn politikh ths mizerias kai ths skopimothtas gia ena eqniko qema, opws ayto twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, to opoio prepei na enwnei oloys mas. As skeftei, epiteloys, oti sta eqnika qemata den xwrei ekmetalleysh kai h politikh ths mizerias kai ths mikrocyxias, poy shmera epedeije. Den mporei kai den prepei na epanalhfqoyn tetoioy eidoys dhlwseis.

To deytero, afora th xqesinh omilia toy k. Karamanlh ston Aspropyrgo: Einai emfanhs o panikos ths N.D.. Fobamai oti exoyn xasei apolyta thn cyxraimia toys. Otan o arxhgos ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs ftanei sto shmeio na diplasiazei to pososto ths anergias sto Lekanopedio -giati eipe oti einai yperdiplasio toy pragmatikoy- deixnei oti den mporei, oyte na arqrwsei ypeyqyno politiko logo, oyte kan na skeftei cyxraima kai nhfalia. Lypamai gi` ayto to katanthma ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

GROMAN: Sxetika me thn protash ths amerikanikhs kybernhshs mesw toy OHE gia thn apostolh strateymatwn kai bohqeias kai apo alles xwres sthn anoikodomhsh toy Irak, poia einai h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs;

PRWTOPAPAS: H qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs einai jekaqarh: Den stelnoyme strateymata. To gnwrizete para poly kala. Apo ekei kai pera, an o OHE labei kapoia apofash kai analabei kapoia eyqynh gia thn anoikodomhsh toy Irak kai mas zhthsei symbolh, qa ejetasoyme to ti qa ginei. Omws, ayto einai ypoqetiko. Mexri stigmhs den yparxei kati tetoio.

KOYIN: H Ellada exei steilei ekstrateytiko swma sto Afganistan.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai dynameis yposthrijhs, den einai dynameis epixeirhsewn. An qymaste kala, eixame pei oti ena tmhma exei astynomikh eyqynh kai ena allo eyqynh kataskeywn. Den stelnoyme pote dynameis gia stratiwtikes epixeirhseis. Einai h pagia qesh mas. Alla, gia na mhn yparjei parejhghsh, mexri twra den exoyme antimetwpisei tetoio qema gia to Irak. Den exei teqei erwthma apo ton OHE, na analabei kapoia eyqynh sthn anasygkrothsh, den exei prosdioristei kati tetoio. Ara, qa prepei prwta na perimenoyme na doyme ti qa ginei ekei. Bebaiws, emeis leitoyrgoyme panta mono sto plaisio toy OHE, oxi me ekklhseis allwn.

KANELLOPOYLOS: O prwhn ypoyrgos kai boyleyths toy PASOK k. Pagkalos, xqes me nea toy synenteyjh ekane mia drimytath epiqesh enantion toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ths kybernhshs. Metajy twn allwn, xarakthrise kai "geloies" tis protaseis toy k. Shmith, toso gia ton eklogiko nomo, oso kai gia to "poqen esxes". Qa hqela to sxolio sas. Kai, epishs, qa hqela na moy peite an h shmerinh anafora toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy peri synergasias, symparastashs kai omonoias poy qewrhse aparaithth gia to kybernwn komma exei sxesh me tis teleytaies dhlwseis toy k. Pagkaloy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oson afora, to prwto erwthma sas, ayta ta exoyme janakoysei kai den briskw to logo na ta sxoliasw. Oson afora to deytero, oxi den einai etsi. O Prwqypoyrgos omilei genika kai apeyqynetai pros thn ellhnikh koinwnia. Zhthse apo oloys toys ypoyrgoys na deijoyn to klima synergasias kai sthrijhs ths politikhs mas.

KANELLOPOYLOS: O k. Pagkalos kineitai sto plaisio ths kommatikhs nomimothtas, an moy epitrepete th frash;

PRWTOPAPAS: O laos mas exei mia paroimia gi` ayto poy kanete: Pate na bgalete apo th "myga jygki".

KANELLOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, edw exoyme mia symperifora enos prwtoklasatoy stelexoys toy PASOK, h opoia dhmioyrgei@

PRWTOPAPAS: Nomizete oti den epeleja ton tropo ths apanthshs moy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den enoxleitai o Prwqypoyrgos apo ayta ta peri cyxanalyshs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw apanthsei.

ZOYLAS: Exei janaxarakthrisei o k. Pagkalos "geloia" kapoia apoch toy Prwqypoyrgoy, giati den to qymamai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Na prosejete thn apanthsh moy.

ZOYLAS: Den briskete oti einai endiaferon;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi.

KANELLOPOYLOS: O k. Pagkalos xqes kathgorhse emmesws plhn safws ton k. Shmith oti ektelei entoles twn Amerikanwn, prokeimenoy na yparxei apolytos elegxos ths yperdynamhs sthn ellhnikh Boylh. Se ayto exete kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Isxyei h prohgoymenh apanthsh moy.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean h taktikh poy akoloyqei o k. Pagkalos sas exei problhmatisei, ws kybernhsh, oxi mono ton Prwqypoyrgo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaqe fora epilegoyme tis apanthseis poy dinoyme. Den energoyme tyxaia.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Nai, alla de moy apantate.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean to skefqeite qa deite oti sas apanthsa.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Palaiotera legotan oti o k. Pagkalos akoloyqei monaxikh poreia. Isxyei kai shmera kati tetoio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exw asxolhqei me to qema.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Ma, einai koryfaio stelexos toy kommatos sas, den mporei na mhn asxoleiste.

PRWTOPAPAS: Egw qa krinw tis epiloges toy kaqena;

KANELLOPOYLOS: Ws kybernhtikos ekproswpos, qewreite oti o k. Pagkalos den dhmioyrgei kanena problhma sthn kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw apanthsei.

BITALHS: O k. Pagkalos pera apo to qema twn xarakthrismwn, sth xqesinh synenteyjh toy, eipe kai kapoia politika pragmata. Epi aytwn twn politikwn pragmatwn qa hqela mia apanthsh. Gia paradeigma, milhse gia tis dhlwseis elegxoy twn xrhmatisthriakwn synallagwn. To xarakthrise aparadekto. Otan ena koryfaio stelexos dhlwnei ayto kai kalei kai alloys boyleytes na mhn proxwrhsoyn sthn kataqesh dhlwsewn, den dhmioyrgei politiko qema;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw topoqethqei sthn oysia toy qematos, polles fores. Isxyoyn ayta poy exw pei.

BITALHS: Otan, omws, o Prwqypoyrgos exei zhthsei, se sygkekrimeno xroniko diasthma, na katateqoyn oi dhlwseis kai yparxei mia tetoia topoqethsh se mia meizonos shmasias prwtoboylia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, den nomizete oti yparxei ena qema;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. Isxyoyn osa exw pei. Eimai sigoyros oti h K.O. qa kanei ayto poy prepei.

ZOYLAS: Epeidh sas to zhtame toylaxiston pente dhmosiografoi, apo stoixeiwdh sebasmo, qa mporoysate na mas epanalabete thn apoch ths kybernhshs, epi twn apocewn toy k. Pagkaloy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Milate peri stoixeiwdoys sebasmoy, alla prepei ki eseis na sebeste emena, poy exw milhsei toses fores gia to qema twn dhlwsewn. Nomizw oti kalyfqhkate me osa eipa tis prohgoymenes hmeres gia to qema twn kwdikwn. Mporeite na anatrejete kai sth xqesinh enhmerwsh poy sas ekana.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Ean o k. Pagkalos den kataqesei dhlwsh gia tis xrhmatisthriakes toy synallages, qa exei epiptwseis, kyrwseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Eimai bebaios oti mexri thn proqesmia poy exei teqei den qa yparjei kanena problhma. Prokeitai gia politikh epilogh, politikh prajh, epiqesh diafaneias poy aposkopei sto na prostateysei toys boyleytes kai thn paratajh mas, apo tis epiqeseis, tis skies poy adikaiologhta kai aparadekta h N.D, alla kai alla symferonta epixeirhsan na dhmioyrghsoyn. Den exoyme tipota na krycoyme kai tipota na fobhqoyme, gi ayto kai den qa yparjei kanena qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poio einai kata thn kybernhsh to pososto anergias sthn Attikh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto poy anaferei h Eqnikh Statistikh Yphresia. Opws eipe o k. Karabiths shmera einai 8,8%, gia to prwto trimhno toy 2003. O k. Karamanlhs milhse gia 19%, apo agnwsth phgh. Katalabainete oti den einai mikrh h diafora.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na moy peite gia ayto to qema me thn pwlhsh toy xrysoy apo thn Trapeza ths Elladas. Poy phgan ayta ta lefta;

PRWTOPAPAS: To ti kanei h Trapeza ths Elladas, einai qema ths Trapezas. H Trapeza ths Elladas, pleon, einai meros ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas. O Dioikhths ths Trapezas ths Elladas leitoyrgei anejarthta, mporei na diatypwnei tis apoceis toy kai na energei opws aytos pisteyei, gia to symferon toy ellhnikoy trapezikoy systhmatos kai ths oikonomias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ta lefta apo thn pwlhsh toy xrysoy, poy phgan, sthn E.E. h sthn Ellada;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas apanthsa.

MIXAHL: Telika brhke h tajidiwtikh odhgia twn Aystralwn, h opoia exei mia oysiwdh diafora. Enw gia tis alles xwres, stis opoies anaferetai, leei ``prosejte pws tajideyete'', gia thn Ellada kanei eidikh anafora. Leei, prosejte toys tsantakhdes, toys portofolades, ta taji k.a. Exete mia sygkekrimenh apanthsh na dwsete kai epipleon qa kalesete ton presbh gia diabhma; Dioti xqes eklhqh sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, alla diabhma den egine. Toy zhthsate mono ejhghseis.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw pei apo xqes oti den qa ginei diabhma, giati einai qema roytinas kai grafeiokratias kai oxi politikh epilogh. Oi Aystraloi mas eipan oti analogh prajh egine peripoy gia oles tis xwres kai idiaitera ths Eyrwphs. Opws gnwrizete, einai 140 kai pleon xwres, gia tis opoies exoyn ekdoqei analoges odhgies. Opws mas dhlwsan oi Aystraloi ayto aporreei apo to Syntagma toys, symfwna me to opoio to kratos einai ypeyqyno gia thn asfaleia twn politwn toy sto ejwteriko kai toys ypoxrewnei na proeidopoioyn gia kapoia zhthmata. Xarakthristika, mas eipe shmera h ekproswpos ths aystralianhs presbeias oti gia zhthmata poy qa mporoyse to tajidiwtiko grafeio na proeidopoihsei toys polites, to kanei h kybernhsh gia na ektelesei th syntagmatikh ypoxrewsh ths. Me bash aytes tis ejhghseis den mporei na ejagoyme allhs morfhs symperasmata.

POYLIDOY: Qelw na rwthsw ean exei erqei sthn Ellada to aithma ekdoshs toy k. Gkoyzinski sth Mosxa;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ej oswn gnwrizw, oxi. Exei kinhqei mia diadikasia apo ton idio ton syllhfqenta, me bash toys ellhnikoys nomoys. Exei katateqei aithsh apofylakishs. Thn exei paralabei o eisaggeleas efetwn. Den mporw na gnwrizw oyte ti qa proteinei o eisaggeleas sto Symboylio Efetwn, oyte ti qa apofasisei to Symboylio Efetwn. Exei kinhqei h sxetikh diadikasia.

TSAKIRHS: Yparxei qema diagrafhs toy Qeodwroy Pagkaloy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan kanw topoqethsh, exw epilejei pws qa thn kanw, den thn kanw tyxaia. Epanalambanw oti ayta ta exoyme janakoysei kai den exw allo sxolio.

TSAKIRHS: Ayto den apanta sto an yparxei qema diagrafhs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Apanta, sto pws topoqetoymaste apenanti sta osa eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh den gnwrize oti h Trapeza ths Elladas qa ebgaze ayto to xryso ejw;

PRWTOPAPAS: Giati qa prepei na gnwrizoyme tis prajeis toy Dioikhth ths Trapezas ths Elladas;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Erhmhn ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs to ekane; Fortwse, dhladh, 20 tonoys xryso kai efyge; Poion enhmerwse;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai etsi, yparxoyn kanones, oi opoioi throyntai. Den mporei na parei kapoios o,ti qelei. Enhrghse symfwna me toys kanones poy yparxoyn. Gnwrizete oti h Trapeza ths Elladas leitoyrgei anejarthta, sto plaisio ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas kai basei aytoy kanei tis epiloges ths.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Opote h kybernhsh htan enhmerwmenh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mhn epixeireite na diastreblwnete ayta poy lew. Eipa oti h Trapeza ths Elladas, dinei ejhghseis gia tis prajeis ths. Giati den rwtate thn Trapeza;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Thn kybernhsh rwtaw. Ta apoqemata toy ellhnikoy kratoys einai oi 20 tonoi xrysoy. H kybernhsh einai ametoxh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prepei na maqoyme oti kapoia pragmata exoyn allajei. Den eimaste sthn epoxh poy h kybernhsh ekane o,ti hqele me thn Trapeza ths Elladas kai kaqorize dioikhtika ta panta. Shmera exei allo qesmiko plaisio leitoyrgias kai alla kaqhkonta. Gia otidhpote qelete na maqete na rwthsete ton Dioikhth ths.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh den ton diorizei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exei allajei to qesmiko plaisio leitoyrgias ths Trapezas ths Elladas. Ayta ta apoqematika ths Trapezas ths Elladas, se ti einai kaqe fora, kaqorizontai apo mia seira dieqnwn kai eyrwpaikwn symfwniwn h me kapoies nomismatikes parametroys kai synistamenes, poy den einai h stigmh na tis analysoyme edw. Na rwthsete thn Trapeza ths Elladas.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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