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Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-10-22

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 22 Oktwbrioy 2002

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Na sas qymisw oti ayrio qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, dioti thn Pempth qa anaxwrhsei o Prwqypoyrgos gia tis Bryjelles. Qa syzhthqoyn qemata ejwterikhs politikhs kai ellhnikhs Proedrias, me eishghth ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn Giwrgo Papandreoy kai ton ypoyrgo anaplhrwth Ejwterikwn Taso Giannitsh.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Stoys kybernhtikoys sxediasmoys prin apo tis dhmotikes ekloges, sxedon apo thn anoijh eixe proanaggelqei oti, metajy allwn, sto epomeno diasthma kai pros thn anoijh toy 2003, prokeitai na parete prwtoboylia gia allagh toy eklogikoy systhmatos. Kai eipate oti qa parete ayth thn prwtoboylia kai eixe kanei enan prwto kyklo epafwn o k. Skandalidhs. Yfistatai, isxyei aytos o programmatismos, ayth h prwtoboylia, qa synexisei na ejelissetai h ypo to fonto twn eklogikwn apotelesmatwn janaskefteste ayth thn prospaqeia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exoyn sxesh oi ekloges aytes me ton eklogiko nomo. Opws gnwrizete, o eklogikos nomos, ean den chfistei apo ola ta kommata kai kyriws apo th N.D., qa isxysei gia thn epomenh fora. Den exei, loipon, kamia sxesh to ena me to allo.

MIXAHL: Exei, ypo thn ennoia oti mia tetoia prwtoboylia exei safes politiko periexomeno, to opoio prosdiorizetai apo tis ejelijeis. Yparxei ena eklogiko apotelesma pia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipate gia ekloges. Ennow, loipon, oti to apotelesma twn dhmotikwn kai nomarxiakwn eklogwn den exei kamia sxesh me ton eklogiko nomo. Pantws, den exoyme kanena logo na eimaste dysaresthmenoi apo to apotelesma twn dhmotikwn kai nomarxiakwn eklogwn. Apo kei kai pera, oloi oi sxediasmoi mas, oi opoioi eixan sxesh me th genikoterh anabaqmish toy politikoy mas systhmatos, isxyoyn, alla qa ginoyn ston kairo toys kai me bash ton programmatismo poy qa yparjei apo ta kybernhtika organa. Den einai ths wras.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw ws synexeia ths erwthshs toy k. Mixahl, ean eiste entelws bebaioi kai sxediazete symfwna me thn proqesh ths N.D. na mhn synainesei sthn allagh toy eklogikoy nomoy gia na mhn yparjei pleiochfia twn 2/3 ths Boylhs, ean eiste entelws bebaioi gi ayto; Kai deyteron, ean epibebaiwnete plhrofories poy feroyn ton Prwqypoyrgo na exei syzhthsei me ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn Kwsta Skandalidh allages se katwtera epipeda kybernhtikwn qesewn, oxi se o,ti afora thn kybernhsh, ejhgoymai, alla katw apo thn kybernhsh, genikoys grammateis Perifereiwn k.lp.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia to prwto erwthma sas epanalambanw oti h syzhthsh einai prowrh. Oson afora to deytero, o Prwqypoyrgos syzhthse me ton k. Skandalidh ta qemata poy hdh o k. Skandalidhs anakoinwse. Yparxei anakoinwsh toy poy anaferei akribws ti syzhthse me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Mas exei enhmerwsei plhrws.

ANTYPAS: Qa hqela to sxolio sas gia th xqesinh apostrofh toy k. Royssopoyloy, o opoios milwntas se thleoptikh ekpomph eqese qema dysarmonias eklogikoy Swmatos kai Koinoboylioy.

PRWTOPAPAS: To eqese arxika, einai alhqeia ayto. To akoysa ki egw, alla, sth synexeia, prospaqhse na to parei pisw. Omws, epeidh ``glwssa lanqanoysa thn alhqeia legei'', o k. Royssopoylos apokalyce tis pragmatikes proqeseis poy eixe h N.D. enocei twn eklogwn. Einai safes oti h N.D. prospaqoyse na tekmhriwsei apoch peri dysarmonias metajy kybernhshs kai laoy, profanws gia na zhthsei ekloges.

Fysika, to idio to apotelesma twn eklogwn, hrqe na diaceysei panhgyrika toys sxediasmoys ths N.D. Me ayth thn ennoia, h N.D. apetyxe patagwdws ston politiko stoxo poy eixe qesei. Oi polites estrecan thn plath se aytes tis epidiwjeis ths N.D. Oi polites qeloyn thn omalh synexish ths diakybernhshs ths xwras, thn prowqhsh toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Qeloyn na antapokriqoyme qetika stis megales proklhseis poy exoyme mprosta mas. H N.D. einai safes oti exei apogohteyqei, anejarthta ean prospaqei na emfanisei pros ta ejw mia epiplasth eikona nikhs. Kai toyto dioti -qymizw- oi syndyasmoi poy exei yposthrijei to PASOK, se polles periptwseis mazi me to Synaspismo, alla kai me alles dynameis ths eyryterhs Aristeras, exoyn eklejei nomarxes se peripoy 23 nomarxies. Bebaiws, metajy aytwn einai kai h ypernomarxia Aqhnwn-Peiraiws, mia ypernomarxia me peripoy 2 ekatommyria chfoforoys, 3 ekatommyria katoikoys, gia thn opoia o k. Karamanlhs eixe pei, stis 22/10/1998, ta parakatw: ``Na ypogrammisw th megalh shmasia ths nikhs, eidika sthn ypernomarxia Attikhs, opoy allwste, opws jeroyme oles kai oloi, perilambanetai ena poly megalo kommati toy synolikoy eklogikoy Swmatos ths xwras mas''.

Me bash tis ektimhseis poy ekane o idios o k. Karamanlh, to 1998 -oi opoies bebaiws, den gnwrizoyme ean isxyoyn, alla den tis exei parei pisw, mexri twra- alla kai to gegonos oti oi ypochfioi poy exei sthrijei to PASOK, se synergasia me to Synaspismo kai alles proodeytikes dynameis, exoyn eklejei peripoy 23 nomarxes, ayth th stigmh, kai lew peripoy dioti enas ej aytwn eixe katelqei ws anejarthtos, alla proerxetai apo to xwro toy PASOK.

Einai safes oti yparxei mia apolyth staqerothta stis dynameis mas. Yparxei mia apolyth antistoixhsh me to prohgoymeno apotelesma kai bebaiws, se kamia periptwsh den yparxei mia diaforetikh eikona, opws ayth poy qelei na emfanisei h N.D. H N.D. htthqhke se sxesh me toys stoxoys poy eixe qesei, poy htan h dhmioyrgia klimatos anatrophs ths kybernhshs kai proklhshs anwmalias sth genikoterh poreia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy.

Bebaiws -kai qelw na to pw- mesa apo aytes tis ekloges, yparxoyn pollapla kai poikilomorfa mhnymata poy stelnei o laos, yparxoyn polla symperasmata poy prepei na ejaxqoyn. Me eyaisqhsia, ypeyqynothta kai sobarothta qa analysoyme thn chfo toy ellhnikoy laoy kai kata perioxh kai qa doyme ta problhmata poy yparxoyn, wste na mporesoyme na antapokriqoyme kalytera, epitaxynontas to kybernhtiko ergo kai lynontas qemata poy ekkremoyn.

ANTYPAS: Dedomenoy oti jekina mia periodos dieqnwn epafwn toy Prwqypoyrgoy, qa hqela na rwthsw se poio stadio brisketai ayth thn wra h entajh ths Kyproy kai an exei h ellhnikh pleyra plhrofories gia piqanes antidraseis apo eyrwpaikes xwres.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den sas krybw oti panta yparxoyn foboi kai antidraseis. Akomh kai an ola ejelissontai omala, opws kai ejelissontai mexri stigmhs, panta yparxei o fobos na dhmioyrghqei ayrio kapoio problhma. Me ayth thn ennoia, qelei poly doyleia, synexh dieqnh paroysia ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs -kai dia toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai dia toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn- kai enhmerwsh olwn twn kybernhsewn ths Dieqnhs Koinothtas kai idiws ekeinwn poy mporei na diadramatisoyn ena shmainonta rolo sthn prospaqeia poy ginetai, wste h Dieqnhs Koinothta na einai qetikh kai h E.E., to Dekembrio, na egkrinei th dieyrynsh, me prwth thn entajh ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias. Ayto qelei doyleia kai prospaqeia.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Shmera, erxetai sthn Aqhna o k. Ntesoto, o opoios qa synanthqei me ton k. Papandreoy. Epeidh pleon qewreitai dedomeno oti o Genikos Grammateas toy OHE qa ypobalei kapoio sxedio lyshs toy Kypriakoy prin odhghqoyme sthn Kopegxagh to Dekembrh, oti qa prospaqhsoyn na epilyqei h en pash periptwsei na yparjei mia proodos sto Kypriako, prin h Kypros entaxqei, qelw na rwthsw, ean o k. Ntesoto metaferei, bolidoskopei, prospaqei na diakrinei ean ta shmeia poy qa paroysiasei o idios ta egkrinei h ellhnikh kybernhsh. Exei perasei kai apo thn Agkyra kai apo th Leykwsia kai exei dwsei stoixeia aytwn twn sxediwn. Hdh, h toyrkikh efhmerida "Sampax" exei dhmosieysei stoixeia apo ayto to sxedio.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exoyn pragmatopoihqei oi synanthseis kai den mporw na gnwrizw. Ean yparxei kati poy na einai anakoinwsimo, qa to maqete. Ayth th stigmh, omws, den gnwrizoyme proqeseis kai stoixeia apo mia mellontikh protash toy Genikoy Grammatea toy OHE. Bebaiws, opws gnwrizete, kat` epanalhch, exoyme bolidoskophqei gia diafora sxedia h apoceis, tis opoies exei ekfrasei h toyrkikh pleyra pros tritoys, mesw tritwn. Se oles aytes tis periptwseis, h qesh mas einai staqerh kai diafanhs kai anaferomai sthn prosfath syzhthsh poy eixe o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn me Amerikanoys paragontes. Epizhtoyme -se synennohsh panta me thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia- mia dikaih kai biwsimh lysh toy Kypriakoy sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE. Ayth th stigmh, den exoyme alla stoixeia. Exoyme anaptyjei oles tis anagkaies dieqneis prwtoboylies pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Pisteyw, omws, oti qa prepei na perimenoyme merikes hmeres akomh.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Xqes kai proxqes, o k. Karamanlhs sth dhlwsh toy eipe oti h N.D. einai h pio isxyrh politikh dynamh sth xwra mas. Hqela th gnwmh sas. Poia einai h pio isxyrh politikh dynamh sthn Ellada, meta tis ekloges;

PRWTOPAPAS: To poia einai h pio isxyrh politikh dynamh sth xwra mas qa to apofasisei o ellhnikos laos, thn anoijh toy 2004. Qelw na qymisw oti o k. Karamanlhs eixe kanei panomoiotypes dhlwseis to 1998, meta tis tote dhmotikes kai nomarxiakes ekloges. Epishs, o k. Karamanlhs eixe kanei panomoiotypes dhlwseis meta tis eyrwekloges to 1999. Fysika, o k. Karamanlhs exase tis ekloges thn anoijh toy 2000. Twra, blepoyme to ergo na epanalambanetai. Eimai bebaios oti me th synexish toy kybernhtikoy ergoy, me thn antapokrish mas stis prosdokies toy ellhnikoy laoy, qa exoyme mia epanalhch toy idioy ergoy kai stis ekloges toy 2004 kai mia nea nikh toy PASOK.

ALEJAKHS: H asqeneia kai h oysiastika politikh apenergopoihsh toy Ntenktas nomizete oti qa kaqysterhsei h qa periplejei perissotero thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto einai ena apo ta eyaisqhta problhmata, gia ta opoia -opws gnwrizete- den ekfrazetai aisiodojia apo kamia pleyra. Einai apo ta problhmata poy den mporoyme na lysoyme kai emeis. Kai bebaia den ennow to qema ths entajhs. To ypogrammizw gia na jexwrisoyme ta pragmata.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Prosfata o Kyprios Proedros ekane mia dhlwsh, h opoia akoygetai gia prwth fora meta to @74, oti dhladh den qa qysiasoyme thn Kypro gia thn E.E.. To leei ayto, dioti to sxedio ayto problepei dialysh ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias k.t.l., kati to opoio den to apodexetai h kypriakh kybernhsh. Symfwnei me ayth th qesh toy Kyprioy Proedroy h ellhnikh kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh brisketai se synexh synergasia me thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia. Prosfata, o k. Klhridhs htan edw. Qelw na sas qymisw oti, toso apo tis dhlwseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy, oso kai apo tis dhlwseis toy Kyprioy Proedroy, prokyptei synantilhch metajy ellhnikhs kai kypriakhs pleyras.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Epeidh kai o Prwqypoyrgos apo to brady kiolas twn eklogwn eixe qesei to qema ths enisxyshs ths synergasias toy PASOK me tis proodeytikes dynameis, tis teleytaies hmeres akoyme se dhmosies syzhthseis na anadeiknyetai to paradeigma ths Germanias. To paradeigma, omws, ths Germanias egine panw se programmatikes sygkliseis, opws lene oi analytes kai oi gnwrizontes ta pragmata. Protiqetai to kybernwn komma na proxwrhsei se ayth thn kateyqynsh ths synergasias sto epomeno diasthma, na ginei dhladh enas dialogos panw sta sygkekrimena qemata;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epeidh epaneilhmmena exei epixeirhqei dialogos kai exoyn, kata kairoys, dhmioyrghqei diafora problhmata kai yphrjan kaxypocies, qelw na kanw safes oti exoyme thn eilikrinh, safh kai jekaqarh proqesh ths dhmioyrgias enos proodeytikoy poloy twn dynamewn ths Kentroaristeras kai ths Aristeras sthn Ellada. As katanohsoyme oloi oti ayth einai strathgikh epilogh mas. Apo ekei kai pera, gia na fqaseis se kapoio stoxo prepei, kaqe fora, na briskeis kai toys katallhloys dromoys. Kai idiaitera, otan prepei se aytoys toys dromoys, poy merikes fores einai dyskoloi, na symporeyteis kai me alles dynameis, tis opoies sebomaste apolyta. Briskomaste sthn epomenh twn eklogwn kai den pisteyw oti perimenete na eimaste apolyta safeis sto programmatismo kai thn epilogh twn kinhsewn mas, afoy mexri xqes diname mia poly megalh maxh kai idiaitera, otan h N.D. eixe kanei mia epilogh dhmioyrgias orwn anatrophs ths kybernhshs, politika bebaiws. Ta prwta symperasmata exoyn ejaxqei. To symperasma gia th synergasia mas me tis dynameis kyriws toy SYN, alla kai alles dynameis ths Aristeras, se mia seira apo dhmoys kai nomarxies, to xarakthrizoyme idiaitera qetiko. Kai ayto, mas dinei thn aisqhsh oti prepei na epejergastoyme, mesa sto epomeno diasthma, ta peraiterw bhmata kai tis protaseis mas. Ayto qa ginei. Omws, den htan dynato na einai etoimo mesa se mia h dyo hmeres.

MOYRTZHS: Aytos o proodeytikos polos, einai ena amagalma, mia eykairiakh symmaxia poy qa exei mia leitoyrgikh aytoteleia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den milame gia eykairiakes symmaxies, giati aytes panta katadikazontai. Milame gia politikh symporeysh panw se qeseis, se programmata, se arxes, se ajies.

Sas eyxaristw.


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