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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 16 Septembrioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy tis epomenes hmeres:

O Prwqypoyrgos apo tis 12.30 exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn Niko Xristodoylakh kai ton yfypoyrgo Giwrgo Flwridh, me kyrio antikeimeno thn poreia ths oikonomias kai thn katartish toy Proypologismoy toy 2003.

Ayrio, stis 10 to prwi, qa exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Anaptyjhs Akh Tsoxatzopoylo. Stis 12 to meshmeri qa pareyreqei, sto Zappeio, sthn teleth paralabhs twn monadwn poy anaptyssoyn to programma "Bohqeia sto spiti" kai qa probei se sxetikes dhlwseis. Stis 13.30, qa dexqei ton ypochfio Dhmarxo Peiraia Manolh Mpeteniwth.

Thn Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, qa parastei sth synedriash ths Boylhs twn Efhbwn. Stis 12 to meshmeri, qa proedreysei ths diypoyrgikhs epitrophs gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes. Stis 7 to apogeyma, qa proedreysei sth synedriash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy toy PASOK.

Thn Pempth, stis 10 to prwi, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio gia qemata toy ypoyrgeioy Anaptyjhs. Qa exoyme thn eykairia na syzhthsoyme kai to qema twn anatimhsewn. Stis 14.00, qa exei synanthsh me kybernhtika kai kommatika stelexh, me antikeimeno thn periodeia toy stoys nomoys Messhnias kai Arkadias.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 10 to prwi, qa exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs Mixalh Xrysoxoidh. Mia wra meta qa exei synergasia me thn ypoyrgo PEXWDE Basw Papandreoy, ton ypoyrgo Politismoy Eyaggelo Benizelo kai ton yfypoyrgo Aqlhtismoy Giwrgo Lianh gia qemata poy sxetizontai me thn olympiakh proetoimasia.

Opws gnwrizete, thn Paraskeyh o Prwqypoyrgos qa metabei sthn Tripolh kai to Sabbato to prwi qa paei sthn Kalamata. Sthn Tripolh qa episkefqei to neosystato Panepisthmio kai sthn Kalamata, metajy allwn, qa exei thn eykairia na episkefqei kai na egkainiasei to neo nosokomeio.

Thn Kyriakh, o Prwqypoyrgos qa anaxwrhsei gia thn Kopegxagh, opoy qa pareyreqei sth Synodo Koryfhs ths E.E. me xwres ths Asias. Qa epistrecei thn Trith to apogeyma.

Thn Tetarth (25/9) qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio gia to sxedio toy neoy Proypologismoy.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KONTOPOYLOS: To Sabbato, o Sabbas Jhros edwse synenteyjh kai yposthrije, prwton thn paroysia anwteroy kybernhtikoy stelexoys sto dwmatio toy kai deyteron th xorhghsh farmakwn, kati poy eixe eipwqei kai sto parelqon, kata th diarkeia ths noshleias toy ston Eyaggelismo. H kybernhsh gia ola ayta kai gia osa prokyptoyn apo ayta ti sxolio exei;

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh den ekane kai den qa kanei dialogo me tromokrates, dolofonoys kai lhstes Trapezwn. Epaneilhmmena exoyme arnhqei na sxoliasoyme paramyqakia, istorioyles, anohsies kai geloiothtes, opws aytes poy mas dihgoyntai aytes tis meres. Qa elega, omws, oti orismenes fores payoyn ayta ta pragmata na einai asteiothtes, otan klimakwnontai sto epipedo ths apeilhs kai malista ths apeilhs kata ths zwhs anwtatwn dikastikwn leitoyrgwn poy kanoyn poly entima kai swsta to kaqhkon toys. Oloi prepei na antidrasoyme se ayto. Den mporei kaneis na to anexetai kai na to kalyptei. Den mporei na yparxoyn synypeyqynoi. Kai qelw idiaitera na kalesw toys anqrwpoys twn MME me th stash toys na symbaloyn, wste na mpei terma se ayth thn istoria.

KONTOPOYLOS: Den moy apanthsate sthn erwthsh. Gnwrizei h kybernhsh thn paroysia stelexoys ths sto qalamo noshleias toy Jhroy ston Eyaggelismo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas exw apanthsei.

IWANNOY: An ayto synexistei, an dhladh parakoloyqoyme kaqhmerinws sta deltia eidhsewn parembaseis twn tromokratwn, ayto pws to sxoliazete kai an prepei na ginetai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto afora kai esas toys dhmosiografoys kai ennow to leitoyrghma sas. O anqrwpos aytos den arxise mono na dihgeitai paramyqia. Apeilhse eyqews na skotwsei anwtato dikastiko leitoyrgo. Kai erwtw: Yparxei kaneis poy na to anexetai ayto; Mporei kaneis na siwphsei; Idiaitera sto xwro twn MME oi idioi prepei na dwsete ena telos se ayth thn ypoqesh.

XASAPOPOYLOS: An katalaba kala gia thn paroysia kybernhtikoy h politikoy stelexoys sto qalamo toy Eyaggelismoy to xarakthrisate "paramyqakia kai istorioyles". Qelw na sas rwthsw polla stelexh toy kybernwntos kommatos, alla kai ths antipoliteyshs ekfrazoyn thn apoch oti me ayta poy leei o Jhros oysiastika prospaqei na krathsei omhro kai na ekbiasei ton politiko kosmo. H kybernhsh symmerizetai ayth thn apoch;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den jerw ti prospaqei na kanei o tromokraths, dolofonos kai lhsths Trapezwn. Shmasia exei ti kanoyme emeis. Oyte h kybernhsh ekbiazetai, oyte o politikos kosmos ekbiazetai, oyte h koinwnia mas ekbiazetai. Arketa mas talaipwrhsan 27 xronia.

MOYRTZHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, dyo tina mporei na symbainoyn h o Jhros exei fantasiwseis, ena cyxwtiko syndromo kai leei ayta poy leei, ta opoia anhkoyn sth sfaira ths cyxiatrikhs h einai sthmenh h synenteyjh, me sygkekrimenoys ypoboleis kai sygkekrimenh stoxeysh na epiferoyn sygxysh. Kai anaferw ena apo ayta poy eipe, gia straties panepisthmiakwn poy einai melh ths 17N. Ayrio, mporei na mas milhsei gia tagmata twn aggelwn. Ti symbainei; Qa hqela na mas dwsete mia apanthsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: H katastash mila apo monh ths. O ellhnikos laos katalabainei. Xreiazetai na to poyme emeis;

GARGALAKOS: Katanow oti den qelete na kanete dialogo me toys tromokrates, wstoso aytoi oi diakinhtes twn eikasiwn twn tromokratwn den prepei na sthliteytoyn; H kybernhsh, dhladh, den aisqanetai thn anagkh na sthliteysei aytoys poy diakinoyn aytes tis eikasies kai prokaloyn sygxysh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn orismenes stigmes poy prepei prwta na miloyn h koinwnia kai oi idioi oi anqrwpoi twn MME.

KARGOYDH: Epeidh probhkate se mia dhlwsh poly sobarh, oti o kratoymenos emmesws apeilei th zwh enos anqrwpoy...

PRWTOPAPAS: Anaferomai sthn apeilh kata toy eisaggelea k. Diwth. Den to akoysate;

KARGOYDH: Hqela na rwthsw, ean ta organa mias eynomoymenhs Politeias ofeiloyn na analaboyn prwtoboylies enanti tetoiwn proqesewn, oi opoies ekdhlwnontai dhmosiws.

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws gnwrizete, apo to swfronistiko kwdika poy exei chfistei edw kai orismena xronia, yparxei h dynatothta kartothlefwnoy. Den qeloyme, ayth th stigmh, na mpoyme se mia diaforetikh logikh. Qewroyme oti se ayta ta qemata h koinwnia mporei ygiws na antidrasei kai na dwsei ena telos. Den einai kai toso dyskolo.

MIXAHL: Kalesate ta MME na skefqoyn ola ayta ta sobara gia to ti ginetai. To erwthma einai, den exoyn ypoxrewsh ta MME na katagracoyn kai tis opoies apoceis -kai opws qelei o kaqenas as tis krinei- aytwn poy qewroyntai kai exoyn kathgorhqei ws melh ths 17N;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mporeite na parakoloyqhsete pws ejelissetai h istoria gia na parete apanthsh.

MIXAHL: Milw gia th sygkekrimenh xqesinh synenteyjh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Plhroforhqhka oti qa yparxei kai synexeia.

MIXAHL: Ean einai etsi ta pragmata, qa hqela na sas kanw mia erwthsh ws ypoyrgo Typoy: Sthn Ellada, basei toy Syntagmatos, den yparxei prolhptikh logokrisia. Eseis, omws, skepteste na parete metra, wste na mhn katagrafoyn tetoies apoceis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den skeftomai tipota tetoio. Ayto, omws, den shmainei oti den exw dikaiwma ws poliths kai ws politikos na antidrw. Kai zhthsa th symbolh sas s` ayto. H kybernhsh ayth den exei kamia sxesh me thn katastolh, alla den einai kai mia kybernhsh siwphrh se zhthmata poy prepei na mila. Kai oyte h koinwnia mas prepei na einai siwphrh ekei poy prepei na ekfrazetai. Bebaiws kai ta MME exoyn to diko toys spoydaio rolo, otan einai na prostateysoyn to symferon olhs ths koinwnias.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Kalesate ta MME. Blepete eyqynes mono sta MME gia ola ayta poy symbainoyn h yparxoyn eyqynes, as poyme, kai ...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den milhsa gia eyqynes. Zhthsa th symbolh sas, th bohqeia sas se mia prospaqeia poy afora to synolo ths koinwnias.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Zhtate th symbolh mono apo ta MME...

PRWTOPAPAS: Kateqesa thn apoch moy.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Gia ola ayta poy bgainoyn pros ta ejw, gia paradeigma kai oi dikhgoroi den exoyn kapoia eyqynh; Sas to lew, giati to thlefwno toy k. Triantafyllopoyloy piqanon o k. Jhros den qa to eixe sthn fylakh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan enas einai dikhgoros yperaspishs, prowqei ta symferonta toy pelath toy. Ayto einai pagio sthn ellhnikh nomoqesia. Qewrhtika, o kathgoroymenos exei to dikaiwma na leei o,ti qelei.

GARGALAKOS: Edw kataballetai mia prospaqeia apajiwshs toy synoloy twn qesmwn, qa elege kaneis, ths dhmokratikhs koinwnias mas, kaqoti mesa apo ayth th synenteyjh xtypietai h Dikaiosynh, oi diwktikes arxes, h omada giatrwn toy Eyaggelismoy, epese kai enas politikos sthn piatsa. Dhladh, blepoyme oloys toys qesmoys ths koinwnias mas na xtypioyntai kai na amfisbhtoyntai. Yparxei, dhladh, to ejhs zhthma: Pera apo o,ti leei o Jhros, h anaparagwgh twn isxyrismwn h kai h yioqesia aytwn den sas prokalei ena deos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sebomai thn aganakthsh sas, alla sas ypenqymizw oti topoqethqhka ep` aytoy, poly aysthra kai safws. Den moy prokalei deos, alla antidrash. Den fobomaste toys tromokrates, antidroyme.

POYLIDOY: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean exei bgei to porisma gia th diarroh ths dikografias poy eixe diataxqei na ginei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ej oswn gnwrizw, oxi.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Pera apo ta texnika xarakthristika kai ta diadikastika ayths ths neas stashs apo ton k. Jhro, qa hqela na rwthsw, ean qewreite oti ayth h troph ths ypoqeshs mporei na prokalesei ena rhgma sto arrages metwpo, opws eixe emfanistei mexri stigmhs, apenanti sthn tromokratia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den pisteyw oti qa breqei politikh paratajh, h opoia eite na jekinhsei dialogo, eite na mpei se ayth th logikh. Oloi qa eimaste mazi.

IWANNOY: Ektimate oti mporei na dhmioyrghqei politiko problhma, ean h 17N apo ton Korydallo arxisei, opws eipate ki eseis, na ekdidei politika manifesta h kati allo; Pws skefteste na antimetwpisete ayth thn katastash;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa kai prin oti h Dhmokratia exei tis dikes ths dynameis kai oles aytes oi dynameis prepei na einai enwmenes, na eimaste mazi kai na eimaste apolyta safeis kai xwris kamia qesh poy qa epitrepei otidhpote. Na eimaste mazi, na eimaste safeis, na mhn epitrecoyme aytoy toy eidoys thn apeilh kai thn proklhsh. H Dhmokratia diaqetei dynameis poy mporoyn na katapolemhsoyn thn tromokratia, pantote sto plaisio toy kratoys dikaioy. Aytes oi dynameis exoyn na kanoyn kai me th qelhsh kai me thn ekfrash ths idias ths koinwnias.

MOYRTZHS: Na proekteinw thn erwthsh ths synadelfoy: Ean arxisoyn ta kartothlefwna -to epitrepoyn- toy Giwtopoyloy, toy Koyfontina, twn Jhrwn k.lp. na metadidoyn plhrofories xwris aytes na ``filtrarontai'' apo emas h apo ton opoiondhpote, eseis ti qa kanete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme topoqethqei sto qema ayto. H kybernhsh topoqethqhke safws kai ypeyqyna. Ekana mia prwth topoqethsh thn Kyriakh to prwi kai ekana mia deyterh -safh epishs- topoqethsh shmera. Ej oswn gnwrizw qa yparjoyn anakoinwseis. Yphrje mia anakoinwsh toy k. Kroystallakh kai sas parapemcw se aythn, h opoia einai safhs kai kathgorhmatikh. Epishs, qa yparjoyn anakoinwseis kai apo to nosokomeio ``EYAGGELISMOS''. Oloi oi armodioi topoqetoyntai sto qema. Einai xarakthristikh h topoqethsh toy Eisaggelea toy Areioy Pagoy, h opoia den afhnei kanena periqwrio. Monon enas kakopistos mporei pleon na amfibalei. Ara, exoyme ws dedomeno to ti paei na ginei me ayth thn prospaqeia poy kanoyn orismenoi. Kai erwtw: H kybernhsh topoqeteitai safws, leei thn apoch ths. Rwtw, omws, h koinwnia den exei organwmenes dynameis poy mporoyn na antidrasoyn; Ta MME den mporoyn na diadramatisoyn to diko toys rolo; Sas kalw na symbaloyme oloi mazi se ayto, me ejisoy safeis kai ypeyqynes topoqethseis apo oloys mas. Na eiste bebaioi pws ean ayto epiteyxqei den qa yparjoyn periqwria epanalhchs aytoy toy fainomenoy.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Dhladh, kaleite ta MME na mhn ``paizoyn'' tetoies synenteyjeis; Otan lete ``na symbaloyn'' ti ennoeite akribws;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mas endiaferei ean ``paizoyn'' h den paizoyn tetoies synenteyjeis. Exete fwnh. Den qa sas pw egw ti qa kanete. Sas kalw, aplws, na to skefqeite. Ayto to dikaiwma to exw. Apo kei kai pera, ki eseis mporeite na topoqethqeite. Oi ypeyqynoi foreis ths koinwnias mporei na topoqethqoyn, opws epishs kai ta politika kommata, kati poy kanei shmera h kybernhsh. Na topoqethqoyn oloi, na topoqethqeite ki eseis. Oloi exoyme logo, oloi eimaste proswpa poy paizoyme ena rolo sthn koinwnia. Mporeite na symbalete ki eseis sthn prospaqeia poy ginetai, ayto ennow.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Nai, alla apo th qesh poy pairnei enas dhmosiografos h enas sxoliasths gia to qema ths tromokratias...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den prokeitai na sxoliasw ti metadidete kai ti oxi. Aytos einai dikos sas logariasmos kai to kanw safes, gia na mhn yparjei parejhghsh. Den yparxei proqesh apo kanena na sas ypodeijei h na sas apagoreysei ti qa metadidete.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Otan kaleite ta MME na symbaloyn, prepei na to kanete jekaqaro...

PRWTOPAPAS: Na poyme ti ginetai edw kai ti epixeiroyn orismenoi tromokrates kai poy qeloyn na paei to pragma.

IWANNOY: Mporeite na mas peite sygkekrimena, h kybernhsh pws skeftetai na antimetwpisei apo dw kai pera tis opoiesdhpote frastikes proklhseis, poy mporei na dexqei apo ta melh ths 17N sto Korydallo; Dhladh, ean kaqe mera sas prokaloyn me nea stoixeia h me diafores kathgories, ti qa kanete;

PRWTOPAPAS: To na mas prokalei enas o opoios exei omologhsei oti einai tromokraths, dolofonos kai lhsths Trapezwn, e, oxi !

IWANNOY: Etsi apantate, dhladh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qa kanoyme dialogo mazi toy, mh bgazete ayto to symperasma. Den qa mpoyme se dialogo me aytoys, oyte me ayton ton ``kyrio'', eite me aytoys toys ``kyrioys''. Den qa mpw se kanena dialogo me kapoion poy esperne qymata.

GKROMAN: Qa hqela ena sxolio gia to eklogiko apotelesma sta Skopia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den sxoliazoyme eklogika apotelesmata allwn xwrwn, to exw pei kai allh fora. Den qelw na sxoliazw eklogika apotelesmata, poy einai apotelesma ths epiloghs politwn allwn xwrwn. Ekeino poy mporoyme na sxoliasoyme, ean xreiastei, einai h taktikh ths kybernhshs ths geitonikhs xwras, se sxesh me qemata poy aforoyn th xwra mas. Me thn idia logikh qa eprepe na sxoliasw kai ta apotelesmata twn eklogwn sth Soyhdia.

POYLIDOY: Qelw na rwthsw ean kata th gnwmh sas o k. Dafermos einai ``prodoths'' toy eqnoys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Wraia h emmesh erwthsh, alla anafereste se xqesines dhlwseis poy den eginan apo kybernhtiko stelexos.

POYLIDOY: Den to eipa.

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo th stigmh poy den eginan apo kybernhtiko stelexos, den xreiazetai na tis sxoliasw. H gnwmh ths kybernhshs prokyptei apo to gegonos oti topoqethse ton k. Dafermo ws epikefalhs ths Arxhs Prostasias Proswpikwn Dedomenwn.

POYLIDOY: Ara, kata th gnwmh sas den yparxei stoixeio prodosias sth leitoyrgia toy, ayto sas rwtw.

PRWTOPAPAS: H gnwmh ths kybernhshs einai safhs, apo th stigmh poy diorise ton k. Dafermo -symfwna me thn tote problepomenh diadikasia, poy einai diaforetikh apo th shmerinh kai thn metepeita sxetikh egkrish apo th Boylh- ws Proedro ths Arxhs Prostasias Proswpikwn Dedomenwn.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qa gnwrizete oti stis HPA ayth thn wra yparxei megalh prwtoboylia kai diaboyleyseis, oson afora to Kypriako. O ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Toyrkias milwntas sta Hnwmena Eqnh, eipe epishma pleon oti h Toyrkia epimenei sta dyo jexwrista krath kai sth dialysh ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias kai piezei oti h Islamikh Diaskech, qa proteinei, qa prospaqhsoyn na bgaloyn ena chfisma, gia anagnwrish toy ceydokratoys. Pws to sxoliazei h kybernhsh ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den nomizw oti mporei na lhfqei tetoia apofash, dioti h qesh toy OHE einai safhs. Ekeino poy xreiazetai na sxoliasoyme einai oti dystyxws h Toyrkia emmenei stis aparadektes qeseis ths. Ayto prepei na sxoliasoyme. Paroti blepei oti kai h idia odhgeitai se adiejodo -profanws logw toy gegonotos oti eperxontai ekloges- den krinei skopimo na allajei ayth th qesh ths, me thn opoia diafwnei h Dieqnhs Koinothta kai h opoia apomonwnei, se telikh analysh, thn Toyrkia kai antistrateyetai thn prooptikh ths eyrwpaikhs poreias ths. Oso oi Toyrkoi den krinoyn skopimo na allajoyn ayth th qesh, toso perissotero qa apomonwnontai. H Dieqnhs Koinothta epizhta mia ygih lysh sto Kypriako, sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Apo th synanthsh toy k. Papandreoy me ton k. Mpoys kai toys alloys paragontes ths amerikanikhs kybernhshs, bgainei kati pio sygkekrimeno; O k. Papandreoy ektos apo ton k. Mpoys eixe kai alles synanthseis.

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws eixe kai alles synanthseis o k. Papandreoy, oi opoies eixan proanaggelqei. Apo oles aytes tis synanthseis qa bgei ena klima. Qa exoyme thn eykairia na kanoyme ton apologismo toy tajidioy toy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn kai bebaiws qa topoqethqei kai o idios apo tis synenteyjeis Typoy poy qa dwsei stis HPA. Einai ena poly shmantiko tajidi. Jerete, sthn ejwterikh politikh ta apotelesmata den fainontai merikes fores th stigmh poy oi synomilies briskontai se ejelijh. Fainontai apo th dhmioyrgia enos klimatos, poy ean einai qetiko, arxizei kai apodidei thn wra twn apofasewn twn epishmwn organwn. O k. Papandreoy exei megalh seira epafwn kai energeiwn stis HPA, oi opoies aposkopoyn sth dhmioyrgia qetikoy klimatos, yper twn eqnikwn mas symferontwn. Qewroyme oti o telikos apologismos qa einai idiaitera qetikos.

ALEJAKHS: Qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs, sxetika me tis ejelijeis ston thleoptiko staqmo TEMPO, meta tis mhnyseis poy ypebale o idiokthths pros toys ergazomenoys gia fqora perioysias kai th syllhch shmera enos ergazomenoy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Tis epomenes hmeres, qa exoyme synanthsh me to ESR gia seira qematwn. Anamesa sta qemata poy qa qesoyme, ws erwthma, einai kai ti ginetai me ayth thn istoria. Pisteyw oti einai wra na asxolhqei to ESR. Bebaia, den qa toy ypodeijw egw ti qa kanei. Alla, ws armodios ypoyrgos, prepei na qesw to erwthma, kata poso o thleoptikos staqmos TEMPO plhroi toys oroys ths adeias toy. Oson afora toys ergazomenoys, exoyme pei kat` epanalhch oti prepei na plhrwqoyn kai oti prepei na threitai apolyta h ergatikh nomoqesia.

GARGALAKOS: H apagoreysh to prwi ths kykloforias twn I.X. sto kentro, dhmioyrghse ena xaos perifereiaka. Qa synexistei ayth h katastash;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete oti egine sto plaisio mias eyrwpaikhs prwtoboylias. Pisteyw oti, ws mia symbolikh prwtoboylia poy eixe ena sygkekrimeno periexomeno, mporei na eyaisqhtopoihsei enan ariqmo politwn. Apo ekei kai pera, qa hqela na sas qymisw oti ayto ginetai se olh thn Eyrwph.

Se ayto to shmeio, eishlqe sthn aiqoysa to melos toy D.S. ths ESHEA D. Kripphs, o opoios, ek meroys toy D.S., eipe ston ypoyrgo ta ejhs:

KRIPPHS: Prokeitai gia th synadelfo Iwanna Swthrxoy. Merida twn MME thn diasyrei. Qa qelame apo thn kybernhsh na dwsei mia kaqarh apanthsh, ena telos se oloys toys sykofantes, dhqen synadelfoys mas, apo oktw toylaxiston MME poy th diasyroyn kai aythn, opws kai alloys polites. Ayto einai to elaxisto poy mporeite na kanete.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa sebastw thn parembash sas, giati katalabainw oti h anqrwpinh ajioprepeia einai panw ap` ola. Gi` ayto to logo kai ekana prin ligo -den hsastan edw- mia entonh topoqethsh apenanti stis aqliothtes poy legontai apo kapoion tromokrath. Me thn eykairia ayth, qelw na ypenqymisw oti se proxqesinh erwthsh synadelfoy sas, o opoios malista eida na to xrhsimopoiei se thleoptiko staqmo, apanthsa, meta apo epikoinwnia moy me ton armodio ypoyrgo -apefyga malista na anaferw kai onoma, dioti den prepei oyte emeis na kanoyme xrhsh onomatwn se aytes tis periptwseis- sxetika me tis fhmes poy diaxeontai apo orismenoys gia kapoia dhmosiografo, oti ayta einai meros twn gnwstwn paramyqiwn poy ejelissontai aytes tis meres. Den yparxei kanena tetoio zhthma. Qelw kai pali na epishmanw oti prepei na sebomaste ta proswpa kai thn anqrwpinh ajioprepeia.

KRIPPHS: Eyxaristw. H dhlwsh sas htan poly jekaqarh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Xairomai poy to diapistwnete.

Sas eyxaristw.

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