Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-09-11

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 11 Septembrioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Qelw na sas qymisw oti yparxei h dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy Kwsta Shmith, gia th mnhmh ths tromokratikhs epiqeshs ths 11hs Septembrioy, h opoia einai apo xqes sth diaqesh sas. Yparxoyn, shmera, ekdhlwseis mnhmhs, opws h ekdhlwsh sthn Amerikanikh Presbeia, poy oloklhrwqhke prin apo ligo.

Epishs, shmera, yparxei h episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy Kwsta Shmith sto Hrakleio, opoy eixe thn eykairia na episkefqei kai ena sxoleio, kata thn prwth mera ths leitoyrgias toy, opoy kai aphyqyne xairetismo gia thn enarjh ths neas sxolikhs xronias. Epishs, milhse sto Pagkrhtio Stadio kai anaferqhke sto nohma kai to periexomeno poy dinoyme, toso sthn olympiakh proetoimasia, oso kai stoys Olympiakoys Agwnes.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

SOYGLERHS: O k. Papandreoy brisketai sthn Amerikh. Qa exei kapoies synanthseis; Gnwrizete kati gia to programma toy; Exete kati na mas peite;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exei anakoinwqei, bebaiws, to programma toy apo to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Qa exei polles kai shmantikes synanthseis, metajy twn opoiwn kai me ton Amerikano ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn k. Paoyel, me mia seira paragontwn ths amerikanikhs kybernhshs kai me ekproswpoys organwsewn kai forewn twn HPA. Bebaiws, qa parastei kai stis ekdhlwseis poy diorganwnontai me thn eykairia ths mnhmhs gia th barbarh kai tromokratikh epiqesh ths 11hs Septembrioy. O ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy, kata th diarkeia ths episkechs toy stis HPA, qa exei epishs thn eykairia na diereynhsei toso tis teleytaies skeceis poy yparxoyn se mia seira ejelijewn sta dieqnh qemata, idiaitera enocei kai twn telikwn apofasewn twn HPA gia to Irak, oso kai na prowqhsei -kai ayto einai poly shmantiko gia mas, giati eimaste se mia eyaisqhth periodo- tis ellhnikes qeseis gia krisima zhthmata, opws einai to qema ths epilyshs toy kypriakoy problhmatos, enocei kai ths synanthshs ston OHE toy Proedroy Klhridh me ton ekproswpo ths toyrkokypriakhs pleyras k. Ntenktas kai oi diergasies poy synteloyntai hdh gia thn prooptikh entajhs ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias sthn E.E. Pisteyw oti einai mia idiaitera shmantikh episkech kai elpizoyme na exei qetika apotelesmata.

KARGOYDH: Epeidh plhsiazei h hmeromhnia opoy h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph qa topoqethqei gia tis ypo entajh xwres, ta mhnymata poy exete mexri twra gia thn periptwsh ths Kyproy, epeidh yparxei to deytero problhma ths epilyshs toy politikoy problhmatos, oson afora, loipon, thn entajh, poia einai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mh sygxeoyme ta dyo qemata. Qa prepei na eimaste idiaitera prosektikoi se ayto to zhthma. Einai dyo diaforetikes, sobarotates bebaiws, ypoqeseis. H prooptikh epilyshs toy Kypriakoy einai se mia idiaitera dyskolh kai krisimh fash. Peri aytoy, den nomizw oti kaneis diathrei amfibolies. Eimaste, bebaiws, mprosta se mia synanthsh koryfhs ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias kai ths toyrkokypriakhs pleyras. Qa synanthqoyn sto plaisio toy OHE, opws panta, dioti oles aytes oi syzhthseis, aytos o dialogos, ginetai sto plaisio twn apofasewn kai ypo thn aigida toy OHE. Den gnwrizw -kai kaneis den gnwrizei ayth th stigmh- poio qa einai to apotelesma ayths ths synanthshs. Perimenoyme, exoyme tis qeseis mas, yparxoyn oi apoceis ths ellhnikhs pleyras kai bebaiws, synergazomaste stena me thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia. Ayth th stigmh, qa htan prowro na poyme otidhpote allo.

Oson afora to qema ths prooptikhs ths entajhs ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias, den exei allajei kati. Bebaiws, exoyme ekfrasei kata kairoys kai foboys kai anhsyxies, alla ayto den prepei na einai to kyriarxo. To kyriarxo prepei na einai ayto to opoio dikaioytai h Kypriakh Dhmokratia. Me bash ta krithria poy h idia h E.E. eixe qesei me seira apofasewn twn Symboyliwn Koryfhs ths, me bash tis apofaseis ths Synodoy Koryfhs toy Elsinki, h Kypriakh Dhmokratia qa prepei na entaxqei prwth, me bash, toylaxiston, ta dedomena ths E.E. sthn poreia dieyrynshs ths Enwshs. Ayth einai h qesh ths ellhnikhs pleyras. Mia qesh gia thn opoia eimaste etoimoi kai apofasismenoi na dwsoyme maxh. Mia qesh gia thn opoia qa kanoyme poly megalh proetoimasia gia thn yioqethsh ths apo ta armodia Symboylia ths E.E. Eimaste se ayth th fash. Gnwrizete oti sthn Toyrkia oi ejelijeis den einai qetikes, den jerw ti telika qa ginei, wstoso ayth h astaqeia poy parathreitai einai fysiko na mas kanei na eimaste akomh pio etoimoi kai se epagrypnhsh gia thn prowqhsh twn eqnikwn qematwn mas.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Exete kapoio sxolio gia thn anastolh leitoyrgias ths ALPHA DIGITAL kai kyriws gia th diadikasia ths ptwxeyshs poy akoloyqhqhke; Sas qymizw oti proanaggelqhke apo enan ek twn basikwn metoxwn se aqlhtikh efhmerida.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, qelw na pw oti den exei anaggelqei akoma, alla anamenetai na ginei ayto se ligo, epishmws. Parakoloyqoyme poly stena tis ejelijeis kai eimaste etoimoi na paremboyme, ean xreiastei, gia na yperaspisoyme ta symferonta twn katanalwtwn. Bebaiws, ean telikws odhghqei se diadikasia lyshs h etairia, opws anamenetai, h nomoqesia problepei thn epistrofh ths adeias. Tote, qa prepei na klhqei apo tis armodies arxes, prokeimenoy na epistrecei thn adeia gia thn chfiakh thleorash poy exei. Se kaqe periptwsh, to Ypoyrgeio jekaqarizei oti qa prostateysei ta symferonta toy koinoy, twn katanalwtwn. Perimenoyme tis telikes ejelijeis. Apo thn pleyra mas, yparxei etoimothta.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Otan h kybernhsh, to Ypoyrgeio, o k. Reppas en prokeimenw, gia logariasmo toy ellhnikoy Dhmosioy, ypegrafe stis 6 Ioynioy toy 2001 th symbash me thn ALPHA DIGITAL, den gnwrize tis oikonomikes dynatothtes ths epixeirhshs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai dynato na gnwrizei h kybernhsh tis emporikes diapragmateyseis poy qa kanei mia epixeirhsh, eite ayto afora tis podosfairikes omades, eite afora tis alles drasthriothtes ths; Alimono, ean mpainame se tetoia diadikasia. H epixeirhsh zhthse adeia nomimws kai me bash to nomo, kateqese ta parastatika ths, thn ependysh ths, to programma ths, to epixeirhsiako ths plano kai nomimotata -kai poly swsta epraje o k. Reppas- elabe thn adeia. Ean apo ekei kai pera, h epixeirhsh ekane lanqasmenes -lew, "ean", dioti den qa tis krinw egw, krinw to apotelesma- emporikes epiloges kai genikws lanqasmenes epiloges h kati den phge kala, to opoio den einai ths wras na syzhthsoyme h h agora exei sygkekrimenes dynatothtes, h h epixeirhsh prosanatolizetai se kati diaforetiko, ayto einai dikaiwma ths. Einai mesa stoys nomoys kai tis diadikasies ths agoras. Bebaiws, to Dhmosio parakoloyqei to qema. Kai to parakoloyqei gia dyo logoys: Prwton, dioti, ean kapoios stamathsei na ekpempei, symfwna me ton kanonismo ths adeias toy, tiqetai qema gia thn adeia kai deyteron, dioti prepei na prostateysoyme ta symferonta toy katanalwtikoy koinoy. Se ayta ta dyo exoyme eyqynh. Perimenoyme, loipon, tis telikes apofaseis ths etairias. Se o,ti mas afora, parakoloyqoyme apo poly konta thn istoria kai eimaste etoimoi stis dyo aytes kateyqynseis. To ti qa ginei, qa to kaqorisei h idia h etairia. Den mporoyme na paremboyme emeis.

IWANNOY: Etyxe na syzhthsete kai me toys armodioys ypoyrgoys gia to qema toy Prwtaqlhmatos; Egeiretai kapoio tetoio qema, ean to gnwrizete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den katalabainw giati prepei na syzhthsw to qema toy Prwtaqlhmatos. Me thn eykairia, omws, na sas pw gia tis thleoptikes metadoseis. Opws gnwrizete, h ERT kaqorizei apo monh ths to programma ths. Kai h ERT krinei, ws etairia, me to dioikhtiko ths Symboylio kai ypo thn eyqynh bebaiws toy Proedroy kai Dieyqynonta Symboyloy Aggeloy Stagkoy, ti thn ejyphretei kai ti qelei na diapragmateyqei kai gia to programma ths, sto synolo toy, kai gia to aqlhtiko ths programma, idiaitera. Nomizw, apo o,ti eida kai apo tis diapragmateyseis poy eginan gyrw apo thn kalaqosfaira, h ERT me idiaiterh synesh kai eyqynh xeiristhke to olo qema. Kai bebaiws, to ypoyrgeio zhta enhmerwsh kai thn exei. Gi` ayto leme oti me idiaiterh synesh kai eyqynh xeiristhke to olo qema. Prepei na sas pw oti oi kybernhtikes kateyqynseis gi` ayta ta zhthmata einai genikoy xarakthra, dioti den parembainoyme sto programma kai to jekaqarizw ayto. Yparxoyn, omws, kateyqynseis genikoy xarakthra pros thn epixeirhsh, sto metro ths nomimhs askhshs toy elegxoy poy ejalloy problepetai. Oi kateyqynseis aytes lene oti se kamia periptwsh h ERT den prepei na synainei se kinhseis poy den diasfalizoyn apolytws to dhmosio xrhma, thn eisfora toy katanalwth, toy polith. Den mporei na dexomaste energeies oi opoies qa xarakthrizontai apo mia logikh kataspatalhshs aytwn twn porwn poy mas dinei o Ellhnas poliths gia na exei swsth enhmerwsh kai swsth cyxagwgia, bebaiws me ena timhma poy na antapokrinetai se ayto poy toy prosferetai. Den qa dexqoyme na kalycoyme tis lanqasmenes epiloges toy opoioydhpote. Den einai aytos o rolos ths dhmosias thleorashs kai den mporoyme na dexqoyme epiloges poy den qa sebontai thn eisfora toy ellhnikoy laoy, se kamia periptwsh. Mesa se ayto to plaisio, kineitai to Dioikhtiko Symboylio ths ERT kai ayto kanei tis epiloges toy.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Anaferate to paradeigma ths ERT. Den katalaba giati anaferate to paradeigma ayto, afoy den rwthqhkate gia thn ERT. Yparxei h skech na analabei h ERT toys agwnes;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qewrhsa oti ayto yponohse h ka Iwannoy...

IWANNOY: Egw sas rwthsa ean kindyneyei to Prwtaqlhma.

PRWTOPAPAS: Anaferqhka se ena qema gia to opoio yparxoyn shmera ektenh dhmosieymata. Dhmosieyetai ston Typo -kai ektimw oti to exete diabasei oloi- oti dhqen, kindyneyei to prwtaqlhma kai pws qa prepei h ERT na klhqei na to swsei. E, oxi kyrioi, den einai h ERT armodia gia na dwsei ta xrhmata twn Ellhnwn politwn, ta opoia exoyn katateqei ws eisfora, gia na kalycei ta laqh toy opoioydhpote. Den einai aytos o rolos kai h apostolh ths ERT. Ayto einai to plaisio poy dinoyme. Apo kei kai pera, sto plaisio ayto h Dioikhsh ths ERT qa kanei tis epiloges ths. Ayto qelw na to tonisw gia th dhmosia thleorash, gia thn opoia feroyme emeis thn politikh eyqynh. To an qa kanoyn alles epiloges ta idiwtika kanalia, einai qema diko toys. Bebaiws, omws, kai ayta qa ypostoyn to kostos apo thn epilogh toys. Ayto den mporw na to krinw egw.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Epeidh akribws yphrxe h idia katastash kai prin apo ena mhna peripoy me to qema toy mpasket, dhladh, h ERT edine mia xamhlh prosfora kai sto telos parenebh to ypoyrgeio Politismoy kai breqhkan ta xrhmata apo alloys poroys, wste na jekinhsei to prwtaqlhma mpasket.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto den afora emas, ws epopteyoysa arxh.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Den sas rwtaw, ws epopteyoysa arxh ths ERT, sas rwtw ws ypoyrgo Typoy kai ws kybernhsh. Protiqetai h kybernhsh, giati eidame oti phgan oi ekproswpoi ths EPAE sth Boylh xqes kai zhthsan ena pososto, eite na mpoyn oi omades sto ``Stoixhma'', eite ena pososto epi toy synolikoy tziroy toy OPAP.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas qymisw oti yparxei dhlwsh toy k. Benizeloy, o opoios se sxetikh erwthsh poy toy ypoblhqhke xqes to prwi, apanthse oti den exei teqei tetoio qema kai oti den yparxei sto nomosxedio ayto. Den exei apasxolhsei thn kybernhsh ena tetoio zhthma kai den perilambanetai kati tetoio sto ypo syzhthsh nomosxedio. Kanw safes, epishs, me ton pio kathgorhmatiko tropo, oti den qa breqei h ERT, ws kratikos foreas, na kanei kati poy einai ejw apo th deontologia, tis synqhkes ths agoras kai thn prostasia toy symferontos kai ths eisforas twn politwn. Apo o,ti gnwrizw, ayto epeleje o k. Stagkos kai poly swsta epraje to Dioikhtiko Symboylio ths ERT gia to mpasket. Gnwrizete oti h prosfora ths ERT gia to mpasket htan symfwnh me tis synqhkes poy epebalan oi ws anw arxes. Ean kapoioi th qewroyn xamhlh, as skefqoyn prwta giati h qeamatikothta toy mpasket einai xamhlh kai meta gia to an ftaiei h ERT h oxi.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Ayto einai katanohto oson afora thn ERT. Qelw na sas rwthsw ws kybernhsh kai epimenw. Ejetazete to endexomeno na kalycete orismenes apo tis apaithseis twn PAE; O k. Benizelos eipe xqes oti den mporei h kybernhsh kai to dhmosio xrhma na kalyptei tis oikonomikes ekkremothtes twn idiwtwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Epanelaba, prin apo ligo, th xqesinh dhlwsh toy k. Benizeloy kai sas parapempw s` ayth.

GARGALAKOS: Shmera anoijan ta sxoleia. H kybernhsh parathrhse mhpws problhmata dysleitoyrgias;

PRWTOPAPAS: O ypoyrgos kai o yfypoyrgos Paideias proebhsan se sxetikes dhlwseis. Ean moy peite oti se ena systhma poy perilambanei 10.000 sxoleia, panw apo ena ekatommyrio maqhtes, xiliades melh ekpaideytikoy proswpikoy kai mia terastia ylikotexnikh ypodomh, an se kapoia akrh ths Elladas parathrhqhke h oxi kapoio problhma kai ayto einai to antikeimeno ths erwthshs sas, qa mporoysa na sas pw, isws. Ean, omws, qeloyme na blepoyme katamata thn alhqeia, tote h pragmatikothta einai oti yphrxe mia acogh etoimothta toy kratikoy mhxanismoy, oti h sxolikh xronia jekinhse xwris problhmata kai qa prepei na sygxaroyme toys ypeyqynoys gi` ayto. Apo kei kai pera, ean caxnoyme na broyme to opoiodhpote mikroproblhma se olh thn epikrateia, piqana na to broyme.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Skeftetai h kybernhsh toy xronoy na anakoinwsei nwritera toys anaplhrwtes kaqhghtes; Giati shmera doqhkan oi topoqethseis 4.000 anaplhrwtwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws gnwrizete, kaqe xrono anakoinwnontai nwritera oi topoqethseis twn anaplhrwtwn kaqhghtwn kai kaqe fora, analoga me tis synqhkes poy epikratoyn, to epidiwkoyme kai to petyxainoyme nwritera.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Den yparxei kindynos apwleiwn ekpaideytikwn wrwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayth h xronia phge -qa elega- shmantika kalytera apo thn persinh. Oson afora ta eidika qemata, qa sas parakaloysa na apeyqynqeite sto ypoyrgeio Paideias.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Ti perimenei h ellhnikh kybernhsh apo tis ekloges sth FYROM, oson afora th diapragmateysh gia thn onomasia ths geitonikhs xwras; Kai sygkekrimena, ean exei katalhjei se kapoia synqeth onomasia kai poia einai ayth h ean symfwnei me ta osa eixe dhlwsei o k. Traikofski ton perasmeno Maio, oti mporei na yparjei mia diplh onomasia, mia gia thn Ellada kai mia gia tis alles xwres.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den parembainoyme pote sta eswterika qemata kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh stis ekloges twn allwn xwrwn-melwn toy OHE. Ara, as mh qijoyme to qema twn eklogwn.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Rwthsa ti perimenei h ellhnikh kybernhsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh apo tis syzhthseis poy diejagei me thn kybernhsh -opoia ki an einai ayth- ths FYROM, perimenei na breqei mia lysh, sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE. Einai safes oti epiqymoyme na breqei mia lysh sto sygkekrimeno plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE, mia lysh dikaih, poy na mporei na ikanopoihsei kai tis dyo pleyres. Kai pros ayto, opws gnwrizete, exoyme symbalei.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Epeidh akribws einai ena to qema ths diapragmateyshs me th geitonikh xwra, to qema toy onomatos, dhladh, epimenw sthn erwthsh moy, ean h ellhnikh kybernhsh einai etoimh na dexqei mia synqeth onomasia, poia qa einai ayth h ean synainei akoma kai se mia diplh onomasia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh exei kataqesei tis protaseis ths kata th diarkeia aytwn twn synomiliwn kai einai gnwstes. Eixame pei oti mporoyme na syzhthsoyme kai qemata poy sxetizontai me mia synqeth onomasia, ean ayto, omws, mas ikanopoiei. Oson afora qemata diplhs onomasias, ektimw oti den yparxei tetoio qema apo th dikh mas pleyra.

KOYIN: Epi toy idioy qematos. Se liges meres lhgei h proqesmia gia thn endiamesh symfwnia me ta Skopia. Skeftetai h Ellada siwphra, mazi me thn allh pleyra, na epitrecei ena xrono paratashs se ayth th symfwnia h qa ginei kati allo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Emeis eyxomaste na prokycei kati poy na einai apodekto kai apo tis dyo pleyres.

KOYIN: Qa thn kataggeilete h qa thn afhsete siwphra gia ena xrono na isxyei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa epanelqoyme se ayto ayrio.

KOYIN: Einai se dyo meres h katalhktikh hmeromhnia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto poy qelw na pw einai oti se kaqe periptwsh -kai gi` ayto poy me rwthsate qa sas apanthsw ayrio- emeis den afhsame na perasei etsi olo ayto to diasthma. Epidiwjame na breqei mia lysh. Kai gnwrizete oti mporoysame na syzhthsoyme mia lysh sthn kateyqynsh ths synqeths onomasias, efoson bebaiws ayth den dhmioyrgoyse idiaitera problhmata se emas. Alles lyseis den mporoysame na dexqoyme kai einai katanohto oti den qa yperbainame to pneyma poy yphrxe apo tis apofaseis toy OHE. Dystyxws, den yphrje ejelijh apo thn allh pleyra. Yphrje emmonh stis arxikes qeseis toys. Katopin toytoy, qa staqmisoyme ta gegonota kai qa doyme ti qa prajoyme. Ayrio, qa epanelqw sto qema ayto.

KAPPOS: O Proedros ths FYROM anakoinwse th systash neas diapragmateytikhs omadas. Na rwthsw, ean apo ellhnikhs pleyras qa yparjei kapoia antistoixh kinhsh kai ws pros ta atoma kai ws pros tis kateyqynseis.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia ta eidika qemata qa epanelqw ayrio. Gnwrizete oti apoysiazei o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn.

Sas eyxaristw.

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