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Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-06-18

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 18 Ioynioy 2002

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Symplhrwtika, na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy:

Ayth th stigmh pragmatopoieitai syskech gia th Synodo Koryfhs sth Sebillh, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy Kwsta Shmith. To apogeyma, o Prwqypoyrgos qa parastei kai qa milhsei sth Boylh sth syzhthsh toy asfalistikoy nomosxedioy, anaptyssontas tis qeseis mas gyrw apo thn asfalistikh metarryqmish.

Ayrio, stis 10 to prwi, qa exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs M. Xrysoxoidh. Stis 11 to prwi, qa parastei sto mnhmosyno toy aeimnhstoy hgeth mas Andrea Papandreoy. Stis 12 h wra, qa exei synanthsh me ton prwhn Proedro ths Dhmokratias ths Notioy Afrikhs k. Ntekler. Stis 12.30, qa exei synanthsh me ton Proedro ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias G. Basileioy kai stis 13.30 me ton epishs prwhn Proedro ths Dhmokratias ths Notioy Afrikhs N. Mantela, ston opoio akoloyqws qa parateqei geyma. Stis 8 to brady, qa exei synanthsh me toys ypoyrgoys PEXWDE Basw Papandreoy kai Politismoy Eyaggelo Benizelo, ton yfypoyrgo Naso Aleyra, to geniko grammatea Giannh Kartalh, ekproswpo ths Epitrophs "Aqhna 2004", me qema syzhthshs thn poreia twn Olympiakwn Ergwn.

Thn Pempth, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio me qemata: prwton, th xwrotajikh katanomh twn AEI kai TEI gia ta epomena xronia kai deyteron, thn eyrwpaikh politikh gia th laqrometanasteysh. Stis 7 to apogeyma, o Prwqypoyrgos kai h dhmosiografikh apostolh qa anaxwrhsoyn gia th Sebillh. Ek twn proterwn, qelw na zhthsw sygnwmh -xwris, omws, na eyqynomaste- apo toys dhmosiografoys poy qa synodeysoyn thn apostolh, dioti qa yparjei mia mikrh talaipwria sto aerodromio ths Sebillhs, logw ths genikhs apergias poy pragmatopoieitai, Tetarth kai Pempth sthn Ispania.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

IWANNOY: Shmera blepoyme dhmosieymeno to porisma gia ena paromoio peristatiko me elikoptero toy EKAB, prin apo ena xrono kai qelw na sas rwthsw, giati ayto to porisma doqhke me kaqysterhsh, giati egine diarroh apo ena sygkekrimeno boyleyth kai den doqhke prwta sta armodia kybernhtika organa na to dhmosiopoihsoyn kai doqhke kateyqeian sth dhmosiothta.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, den einai to porisma ths armodias epitrophs. Opws gnwrizete, me nomo poy chfise perysi h Boylh, exei systaqei h Epitroph Diereynhshs Atyxhmatwn, poy leitoyrgei symfwna kai me tis koinotikes odhgies gyrw apo ta qemata ayta. Mia epitroph, poy eixe ginei pro ths isxyos toy neoy nomoy, eixe ergastei panw sta aitia toy prohgoymenoy dystyxhmatos. Oi ekqeseis ths exoyn doqei sthn Epitroph Diereynhshs Atyxhmatwn, h opoia tis anamorfwnei, symfwna me tis odhgies poy isxyoyn gia ola ta krath-melh ths E.E. Ara, loipon, den isxyei kai den yparxei kanena epishmo porisma. Oi ekqeseis poy exoyn doqei sthn EDA, sthn opoia proistatai o k. Tsolakhs, einai sto teliko stadio diamorfwshs toys. Meta th diamorfwsh toy telikoy sxedioy ths ekqeshs, qa yparjei kai synennohsh me thn italikh pleyra. Problepetai kai sygkekrimenh proqesmia mesa sthn opoia prepei na erqei h apanthsh kai sth synexeia h EDA qa katalhjei sthn telikh ekqesh ths -elpizw mesa sto epomeno dimhno- thn opoia qa ypobalei stis armodies arxes. Bebaiws, qa gnwstopoihqei kai se sas.

IWANNOY: To porisma poy eidame dhmosieymeno apo ton k. Kaklamanh, den einai ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei akomh epishmo porisma. Symfwna me to nomo kai tis koinotikes odhgies h Epitroph poy exei thn eyqynh diamorfwshs toy porismatos, einai h EDA h opoia exei systaqei me nomo kai ayth th stigmh diamorfwnei thn telikh ekqesh ths. Bebaiws, exei ajiopoihsei ola ta stoixeia poy ths exoyn doqei apo mia prohgoymenh Epitroph poy eixe systaqei kai htan ektos toy plaisioy toy nomoy kai twn koinotikwn odhgiwn -gi` ayto kai egine h prosarmogh- kai syntassei to teliko porisma ths. Sth synexeia, problepetai, me bash tis koinotikes odhgies, h dynatothta sthn italikh Yphresia Politikhs Aeroporias na pei kai ayth tis apoceis ths kai akoloyqws qa diamorfwqei to teliko porisma, to opoio qa doqei kai stis armodies arxes. O k. Tsolakhs ypologizei oti mesa se dyo mhnes ayth h diadikasia qa exei teleiwsei.

IWANNOY: Ayto poy diabasame ti einai; Einai diarroh; O k. Kaklamanhs leei oti to exei parei apo ton koinoboyleytiko elegxo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto poy exw na pw einai oti to epishmo porisma poy qa einai diamorfwmeno, symfwna me to nomo kai tis koinotikes odhgies, kata ton Proedro ths Epitrophs k. Tsolakh, qa einai etoimo peripoy se dyo mhnes.

MIXAHL: Afoy o k. Tsolakhs qa exei peripoy se dyo mhnes to porisma gia to elikoptero ths periptwshs Soynioy, taytoxrona toy exei anateqei h ereyna gia to proxqesino symban;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi mono toy exei anateqei, alla exei parembei hdh. Xqes, sas anakoinwsa kai qa hqela na to prosejete oti amesws molis plhroforhqhke h EDA to atyxhma, zhthse -kai bebaiws egine apodekto to aithma ths- na metaferqoyn eidika sto xwro toy atyxhmatos, prokeimenoy na arxisei amesws h diereynhsh toy. Symfwna me tis epikoinwnies poy eixame, o elegxos qa einai kai taxys kai endelexhs. Filodojoyme, malista, na ginei sto miso ths problepomenhs proqesmias poy einai peripoy ena ejamhno. Prepei na sas pw oti sto qema toy elegxoy toy deyteroy aytoy atyxhmatos, yparxei mia taxytath parembash. Den qa ginei mono elegxos gia piqana laqh poy odhghsan sto dystyxhma, alla qa apostaloyn kai oi mhxanes toy elikopteroy kai epimeroys stoixeia sto ejwteriko, wste na ginei enas synolikos elegxos gia na exoyme apanthseis se ola ayta ta erwthmata poy exoyn egerqei. Ara, o elegxos den periorizetai sto dystyxhma kai tis epimeroys synqhkes toy, alla exei na kanei genikotera me ola ta problhmata poy mporei na yparxoyn gyrw apo ton typo toy elikopteroy, ta mhxanhmata k.o.k. Me ayth th sobarh kai ypeyqynh doyleia poy qa yparjei, qa mas doqei h dynatothta na apanthsoyme se ola ta erwthmata poy tiqentai.

KARGOYDH: Qa hqela na rwthsw, an me tis teleytaies diapistwseis, afhnete na ennohqei oti qa epanejetastei h ajiopistia toy sygkekrimenoy typoy elikopteroy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayth th stigmh, eimaste ypoxrewmenoi na elegjoyme ta panta. Den bgazoyme kanena symperasma -prepei na einai safes ayto- kai den qa biastoyme na katalhjoyme se kriseis kai symperasmata, opws epixeiroyn na kanoyn merikoi, ta opoia qa apodeixqei ayrio oti den antistoixoyn sthn pragmatikothta. Apla, qelw ypeyqyna na sas diabebaiwsw oti elegxoyme ta panta. Ayth einai h doyleia twn armodiwn Arxwn kai ayto qa ginei.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Sto porisma, dhladh, ektos apo thn problech gia apofygh piqanwn newn atyxhmatwn sto mellon, qa katalogizontai kai eyqynes gia ta aitia toy sygkekrimenoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: To porisma den katalogizei kat` anagkh eyqynes, oyte mporw na to prokaqorisw ayto. To porisma katagrafei symperasmata ta opoia qa plhroforhqeite. Qa ginei poly sobarh, opws ginetai kai gia prwth periptwsh. Twra, omws, qa einai pio syntoma, dioti h EDA exei systaqei, leitoyrgei symfwna me tis koinotikes odhgies kai antikeimenika mporei na einai poly pio grhgorh.

MIXAHL: Afoy lete oti qa ginei enas elegxos gia ola ta dedomena, poies eggyhseis yparxoyn pia apo thn Politeia oti aytoi oi elegxoi qa thrhqoyn, oxi gia kanena allo logo, alla dioti eidame thn perifhmh ypoqesh toy Falkon na phre toso kairo gia na bgei to porisma kai edw kai peripoy enamish xrono, twra qa jeroyme ti egine kai sto prwto peristatiko. Poios mas eggyatai oti ta xronodiagrammata ayta qa thrhqoyn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas qymisw -kai me anagkazete na to epanalabw- oti me eidiko nomo exei systaqei mia anejarthth arxh, h EDA, sthn proistatai o k. Tsolakhs, h opoia leitoyrgei symfwna me tis koinotikes odhgies ston tomea ayto. Exoyme, loipon, ena safes plaisio sto opoio leitoyrgei h Epitroph. Exoyme dwsei tis ejoysiodothseis kai -opws eidate- apo thn prwth stigmh, arxise na kanei th doyleia ths. Den perimene na parei entolh apo kapoion. Den perase xronos. Ara, loipon, mporei na eimaste oloi hsyxoi oti h doyleia qa ginei. Kai qa ginei swsta. Qelw, omws, na pw, gia na mhn dhmioyrgoyntai parejhghseis, oti olo ayto ton kairo kai ta elikoptera kai ta aeroplana toy EKAB elegxontai kai apo to idio to EKAB, to opoio exei proslabei eidikoys, prokeimenoy na elegxei thn ylopoihsh ths symbashs poy exei synacei me thn Alitalia. Epipleon, apo o,ti plhroforhqhka apo ton k. Tzogannh kai h YPA exei anaptyjei plhrh synergasia me thn antistoixh italikh yphresia, enw probainei kai stoys dikoys ths elegxoys, gyrw apo ton tropo poy leitoyrgei h italikh etairia. Den yparxei kanenas poy na leitoyrgei asydota kai ejw apo to plaisio toy elegxoy poy problepei h nomoqesia toy ellhnikoy kratoys.

BITALHS: Th diereynhsh twn eyqynwn gia to elikoptero poy epese sto Soynio, poios telika thn kanei kai poios qa kanei th diereynhsh gia to deytero;

PRWTOPAPAS: Symfwna me to nomo, armodia einai h EDA. Mono ayto anagnwrizetai. Ayto poy dhmosieyetai shmera, den einai epishmo porisma, symfwna me ayta poy problepontai apo to nomo kai tis koinotikes odhgies.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Ti einai ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizw. Egw sas enhmerwnw ypeyqyna gyrw apo to ti leei o nomos, ti problepoyn oi odhgies, poso ayta throyntai kai pote qa bgoyn ta porismata. Ola ta ypoloipa, den einai epishma porismata.

ANTWNOPOYLOS: Eipate prohgoymenws, pwsi o,ti mporei na erqei sto fws, qa erqei. Mporeite na moy to dieykrinisete ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporw na gnwrizw ti mporei na prokycei apo ton elegxo. H entolh poy yparxei, alla bebaiws kai h eyqynh ths EDA, einai "plhrhs elegxos se ola".

GARGALAKOS: Shmera eixame mia megalh kinhtopoihsh, mia apergia sto dhmosio tomea kai oxi mono, kai mia eyrytath -qa elege kaneis- diadhlwsh syndikalistwn kai ergazomenwn kata toy asfalistikoy. Exete sxolio ep` aytoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas parapempw stis xqesines analytikotates dhlwseis moy. Exw apanthsei se ola.

GARGALAKOS: Kai kati allo: Bgainei ena klima oti o Prwqypoyrgos einai etoimos na ``parei kefalia'' ypoyrgwn, poy kalliergoyn thn eswstrefeia h endokybernhtikes tribes. Mporeite na mas ermhneysete ayto to klima poy bgainei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas parapempw kai gi ayto to qema stis xqesines, epishs, analytikes dhlwseis moy.

BATIKIWTHS: H kybernhsh prokeitai na labei ypoch ths tis antidraseis sto asfalistiko nomosxedio, opws katagrafhkan apo th shmerinh apergia kai tis poreies;

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh einai apofasismenh na proxwrhsei sthn asfalistikh metarryqmish poy qa diasfalizei dikaiosynh kai biwsimothta toy systhmatos. Ayto kanei. Qelw na epishmanw, oti h N.D. ejakoloyqei na pata se dyo barkes. Epanalambanw ayto poy eipa xqes: oti, opoios pata se dyo barkes, sto telos qa pesei sth qalassa. Einai mia politikh poy den antistoixei, oyte se symferonta twn ergazomenwn kai twn syntajioyxwn, oyte kan stoys oroys stoixeiwdoys sobarothtas poy apaitoyntai gia thn epilysh enos meizonos problhmatos, opws einai to Asfalistiko.

ALEJAKHS: Hqela na rwthsw ean kriqhkan ikanopoihtikes oi ejhghseis poy edwse h bretanikh pleyra, meta tis diarroes ermhneias twn oswn eipe o k. Xanei, poy oysiastika yponooyse oti qa metatrapei to Syntagma ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias. Kriqhkan ikanopoihtikes apo thn ellhnikh kai kypriakh pleyra;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas parapempw stis dhlwseis toy ekproswpoy ths Kypriakhs Kybernhshs k. Papapetroy. Ayto poy qelw na tonisw einai oti h epilysh toy Kypriakoy prepei na proxwrhsei sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE.

ALEJAKHS: Mia dieykrinish sxetika me th syskech gia ta olympiaka erga, poy qa ginei ayrio, an den kanw laqos. Giati den synerxetai h Diypoyrgikh; Giati den ejetazetai, sto plaisio ths Diypoyrgikhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kata kairoys exoyn ginei epimeroys syskeceis, otan den yparxei pros ejetash ena synolikotero qema. Sthn prokeimenh periptwsh to qema empiptei stis armodiothtes orismenwn ypoyrgwn. Den xreiazetai na synelqei h Diypoyrgikh gia na ejetasei ena qema poy afora mono dyo ypoyrgoys.

IWANNOY: Qelw na rwthsw gia ena allo xqesino symban, gia mia qalamhgo -ean to exete ypoch sas- me enan Polwno kai enan Irakino, poy ejepemce shma bohqeias kai espeyse mia toyrkikh fregata. Aytoi oi anqrwpoi kathgoroyntai oti prokalesan oi idioi th byqish ths qalamhgoy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporw na kanw elegxo....

IWANNOY: Ean gnwrizete to peristatiko, se sxesh me to Limeniko, dioti prosetreje kai toyrkikh fregata gia na...

PRWTOPAPAS: Ejepemce shma bohqeias. Anejarthta, omws, apo ayto, den yparxei politiko qema gia na xreiazetai sxetikh diereynhsh.

IWANNOY: Mhpws jerete giati kathgoroyntai aytoi oi anqrwpoi;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mporeite na apeyqynqeite stis yphresies toy Limenikoy gia na enhmerwsoyn ton armodio syntakth toy kanalioy sas. Ek twn pragmatwn, den mporei na parakoloyqoyme kaqe symban, poy empiptei se astynomiko reportaz.

MIXAHL: Shmera einai Trith meshmeri kai mas menoyn peripoy tria 24wra mexri na arxisoyn epishma oi ergasies toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy sth Sebillh. Ti anamenoyme se ayta ta tria 24wra gia thn perifhmh ypoqesh toy eyrwstratoy; Dioti eixate dhlwsei, kat epanalhch -kai o Prwqypoyrgos ki eseis- oti mexri kai thn teleytaia stigmh qa ginontai diapragmateyseis. Meta, loipon, kai apo thn teleytaia synedriash twn ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn, sto Loyjemboyrgo, ti perimenoyme gia na jeroyme ean qa katalhjoyme h oxi; Poy pane ta pragmata;

PRWTOPAPAS: Eginan kai xqes syzhthseis gia to qema ayto, metajy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn Giwrgoy Papandreoy, toy k. Solana kai toy k. Pike, oi opoioi einai armodioi apo pleyras E.E. Sta diafora foroym ginontai sxetikes syzhthseis kai synexizontai oi prwtoboylies. Den mporw na gnwrizw ean ayrio o k. Aqnar ekdhlwsei kapoia prwtoboylia.

MIXAHL: Allo sas rwthsa, ti perimenoyme emeis na ginei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Perimenoyme th synexish twn syzhthsewn mexri, eite th diapistwsh ths symfwnias, eite th diapistwsh ths diafwnias. Den exoyme tipote poy na mas peiqei, ayth th stigmh, oti eimaste etoimoi na symfwnhsoyme. Alla, ayto de shmainei oti, thn Pempth h thn Paraskeyh, h katastash den mporei na einai diaforetikh.

MIXAHL: Eite to Sabbato to prwi.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eite to Sabbato to prwi, eite kai to apogeyma akoma. Den mporei na prokaqorisoyme tipota. Ekdhlwnontai synexws prwtoboylies kai protaseis. Mporei na ginoyn opoiadhpote stigmh kainoyrgies, xwris kaneis na mporei na pei ean qa einai ayrio h thn Pempth h thn Paraskeyh h kai to Sabbato akoma. Bebaiws, emeis exoyme tis qeseis mas kala epejergasmenes, syzhtoyme me thn Ispanikh Proedria kai toys armodioys, ton k. Solana. Ean krinoyme oti yparxei periqwrio symfwnias qa proxwrhsoyme. Ean krinoyme oti den yparxei periqwrio symfwnias qa proxwrhsoyme sta alla mesa, ta opoia problepontai. Ayto, omws, qa to syzhthsoyme ews kai th Sebillh.

MOYRTZHS: O Proedros toy ``eyagoys'' idrymatos ths ERT k. Ag. Stagkos..

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai eyages idryma h ERT, einai A.E.

MOYRTZHS: Telos pantwn. O k. Stagkos zhthse 20 dis draxmes gia tis anagkes ths kratikhs thleorashs. Kai otan toy eipan apo poy qa ta brei, eipe apo thn ayjhsh kata 10% toy antapodotikoy teloys gia thn ERT. Eseis symfwneite me ayth thn taktikh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat arxas, h ERT den einai eyages idryma. Einai A.E.

MOYRTZHS: Einai ``prytaneio'' gia mena.

PRWTOPAPAS: Anhkei sto Dhmosio kai elegxetai apo ayto kai bebaiws qa anhkei s` ayto kai qa elegxetai apo ayto, dioti synthreitai me eisfores toy ellhnikoy laoy. Opws gnwrizete h Dioikhsh ths ERT exei thn eyqynh toy xeirismoy toy proypologismoy ths dhmosias radiothleorashs. Bebaiws, me idiaiterh prosoxh kai eyqynh proxwra sth doyleia ths. Omws, prepei na gnwrizete oti qa xreiastoyn polla ejoda kai ependyseis ths ERT, enocei twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. H ERT exei analabei ena terastio ergo, enocei twn O.A., sth genikoterh symfwnia poy exei ginei gia to qema twn metadosewn kai ths epikoinwnias kai apaitoyntai ependyseis, mhxanhmata, ejoplismoi, ekpaideysh anqrwpinoy dynamikoy, wste na mporesei na antapokriqei se ayto poy oloi oneireyomaste kai oloi qeloyme. Epomenws, o k. Stagkos logiko einai na anhsyxei gia ta prosqeta xrhmata poy xreiazontai, prokeimenoy na epitelesei sto akeraio to ergo kai na antapokriqei sthn eyqynh poy exei analabei. Bebaiws, qa syzhthsoyme kai mazi gia toys tropoys ejeyreshs aytwn twn xrhmatwn. Ayth th stigmh, omws, den mporw na prokaqorisw poia qa einai h phgh gi aytoys toys poroys.

MOYRTZHS: To afhnete anoikto, dhladh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na eimai eilikrinhs apenanti sas. Den exoyme apofasisei kai den exoyme ejetasei to synolo twn oikonomikwn aithmatwn, wste na eimaste se qesh na gnwrizoyme poia posa mporei na doqoyn apo diafores phges. Qa enhmerwqeite analytika otan erqei h wra. Ena einai sigoyro: Oti h ERT prepei na kanei megales ependyseis gia na mporei na antapokriqei sto megalo stoixhma twn O.A. Kai ayto afora oloys toys Ellhnes. Den afora oyte stena thn ERT, oyte stena thn kybernhsh.

MIXAHL: Qa labete ypoch sas stis syzhthseis poy qa kanete kai tis epiptwseis ston plhqwrismo apo ton tropo ejeyreshs twn xrhmatwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eimai se qesh na sas pw tipota parapanw. De moy aresei na protrexw. Prepei na kanoyme sobarh doyleia.

MOYRTZHS: Ayth h apofash nomizw oti ejetazetai apo thn epitroph oikonomikhs kai koinwnikhs politikhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Poia apofash;

MOYRTZHS: Ean yparjei apofash.

PRWTOPAPAS: Mporei na mh xreiastei tipota. To olo oikonomiko qema poy qetei o k. Stagkos qa ejetastei apo thn kybernhsh. Ayto mono mporw na pw. Den mporw ayth th stigmh, oyte na ejaggeilw tipota, oyte na anaferqw se otidhpote. Qa htan laqos kai aneyqyno. Omws, symfwnw ki egw oti pragmati prepei na skycoyme me prosoxh sto oikonomiko aithma poy diatypwnei o k. Stagkos. Tipota allo. Kai to tonisw ayto.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Apofasisthkan kapoies prwtoboylies, endexomenws, kata th synedriash toy epikoinwniakoy organoy gia thn antistrofh aytoy toy klimatos ths eswstrefeias, poy kategrace sto synolo toy o Typos, meta th synedriash ths K.E.;

PRWTOPAPAS: Panta apofasizontai prwtoboylies kata tis synedriaseis twn organwn, alla, qa moy epitrecete, symfwna me th synhqeia poy yparxei na mhn anaferqw se aytes, para monon otan ekdhlwqoyn.

Sas eyxaristw.


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