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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 17 Ioynioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Qelw na ekfrasw thn idiaiterh lyph ths kybernhshs gia to nyxterino dystyxhma me to elikoptero toy EKAB, poy eixe ws apotelesma to qanato pente synanqrwpwn mas. Amesws molis egine gnwsto to tragiko symban yphrje kinhtopoihsh twn armodiwn arxwn. Hdh, h eidikh yphresiakh arxh gia th diereynhsh twn atyxhmatwn exei zhthsei thn enarjh ths diadikasias elegxoy gia ta aitia poy prokalesan to atyxhma kai klimakio ths eprokeito na anaxwrhsei prin apo mia wra gia ton topo toy dystyxhmatos.

Qelw na sas enhmerwsw, epishs, oti ejetazetai ayth th stigmh se deytero baqmo to porisma ths epitrophs gia to prohgoymeno atyxhma me to elikoptero toy EKAB. Meta thn oloklhrwsh toy elegxoy qa enhmerwqeite kai gia ta aitia toy prwtoy dystyxhmatos.

Oson afora to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy qa sas to anakoinwsw sthn telikh toy morfh ayrio. Gnwrizete, omws, oti thn Pempth anaxwrei gia th Sebillh, opoy qa pragmatopoihqei to Eyrwpaiko Symboylio. Prokeitai gia mia Synodo idiaitera shmantikh giati qa syzhthqoyn qemata, opws h politikh ths E.E. gia th metanasteysh, zhthmata poy sxetizontai me thn anadiarqrwsh twn leitoyrgiwn toy Symboylioy, h prooptikh ths dieyrynshs kai bebaiws ta qemata ths dynamhs taxeias parembashs (ESDP).

Ayrio, stis 14.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synanthsh me ton k. Ntean, prwhn prwqypoyrgo toy Belgioy. Ayrio, epishs, qa synedriasei kai to epikoinwniako organo.

Thn Tetarth o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synanthsh me ton prwhn proedro ths Dhmokratias ths N. Afrikhs k. Nteklerk. Stis 12.30 qa synanthqei me ton prwhn proedro ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias k. Giwrgo Basileioy kai stis 13.30 o Prwqypoyrgos qa paraqesei geyma me timwmeno proswpo ton k. Mantela, o opoios exei proklhqei gia na milhsei to apogeyma se ekdhlwsh.

Thn Pempth, stis 10 to prwi, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio me antikeimeno syzhthshs ta qemata poy syndeontai me thn idrysh se olh thn Ellada twn Sxolwn twn AEI kai twn TEI, wste na yparxei mia oristikh apofash panelladikoy xarakthra gia thn katanomh twn Sxolwn palaiwn kai newn twn AEI kai twn TEI, kaqws kai ta zhthmata poy syndeontai me thn eyrwpaikh politikh metanasteyshs, h opoia qa syzhthqei kai sth Synodo Koryfhs sth Sebillh.

To trito qema, to opoio qa hqela na sxoliasw, me aformh thn ayrianh syzhthsh sthn Olomeleia ths Boylhs, einai h stash ths Neas Dhmokratias sto Asfalistiko. Qeloyme na epishmanoyme oti opws epraje h N.D. kai sthn Koinoboyleytikh Epitroph, oles oi endeijeis peiqoyn -kai makari na mh ginei ayto, alla fobamai oti einai dedomenh apofash, me bash kai th symperifora ths sthn Koinoboyleytikh Epitroph- oti qa apoxwrhsei amesws meta thn omilia toy arxhgoy ths.

Kata th gnwmh mas h stash ths N.D. sthn Koinoboyleytikh Epitroph, kaqws kai h stash poy, opws sas eipa, anamenetai na akoloyqhsei kai ayrio threitai dioti h paratajh ayth arneitai na topoqethqei panw se ena megalo zhthma, to opoio apasxolei to synolo twn misqwtwn kai twn syntajioyxwn kai genikotera to synolo ths ellhnikhs koinwnias. Den einai h prwth fora poy h N.D. kai o arxhgos ths protimoyn to dromo ths fyghs. To "bazoyn sta podia" gia na mhn topoqethqoyn, na mhn paroyn qesh panw se meizona problhmata ths koinwnias mas kai toy laoy mas. Einai h politikh kapoioy poy qelei na pataei se dyo barkes. Alla qelw na qymisw oti sthn politikh, opws kai se alla pragmata, opoios pataei taytoxrona se dyo barkes, to piqanotero einai na pesei sto nero. Kai h N.D. me ayth th stash poy krata, me th stash ths fyghs, me thn apofygh topoqethshs panw sta meizona problhmata toy laoy, me th synexish qolwn kai afhrhmenwn topoqethsewn, to piqanotero einai oti qa exei ayth thn tyxh. H elleich politikhs eidame poy odhgei kai sthn periptwsh toy KEP.

Qelw na ypenqymisw pente zhthmata poy ypoxrewnoyn ton arxhgo ths N.D. na mhn mporei na parei qesh sth Boylh. O k. Karamanlhs qa eprepe na epilejei an to komma toy qa yperchfize h qa katachfize pente zhthmata:

Prwton, thn ayjhsh apo to 60% sto 70% toy posostoy anaplhrwshs gia tis syntajeis twn newn asfalismenwn.

Deyteron, thn ayjhsh twn katwterwn syntajewn apo tis 46.800 poy proeblepe o nomos Sioyfa stis 130.000 drx. kai me to EKAS panw apo 152.000 drx.

Triton, thn epanafora twn triakostwn pemptwn anti twn penthkostwn ston tropo ypologismoy twn syntajewn.

Tetarton, thn katabolh epikoyrikwn syntajewn panw apo to 20% twn syntajimwn apodoxwn. Kai,

Pempton, th meiwsh twn oriwn hlikias gia tis gynaikes kai osoys symplhrwnoyn 35 eth asfalishs.

Einai safes, loipon, giati o arxhgos ths N.D. protima th fygh. Den mporei oyte na yperchfisei, oyte na katachfisei aytes tis diatajeis. Dioti ean tis yperchfisei qa deijei se oloys oti ayta poy epikaleitai gia to nomo Sioyfa kai gia thn taktikh ths N.D. oysiastika den ta pisteyei. Ean tis katachfisei kai meinei dogmatika proshlwmenos sto nomo Sioyfa, tote "adeiazei" ekeinoys apo thn paratajh toy -kai einai polloi aytoi- oi opoioi me ena dhqen aristero, alla sthn oysia laikistiko proswpo kathgoroyn thn kybernhsh oti apempolei ta dikaiwmata twn misqwtwn kai twn syntajioyxwn kai oti dhqen oysiastika odhgei se ena antiasfalistiko kaqestws. Ean yperchfisei aytes tis diatajeis "adeiazei" olh thn politikh thn opoia emfanizoyn o k. Soyflias, o k. Sioyfas kai alla basika stelexh ths paratajhs toy. Ean tis katachfisei tote einai safes oti "adeiazei" ola ayta poy o k. Manwlhs kai alla stelexh ths paratajhs toy, epishs, me stentoreia th fwnh diakhryssoyn. O k. Karamanlhs, aixmalwtos twn dyo grammwn, aixmalwtos ths qolhs kai afhrhmenhs taktikhs, aixmalwtos ths politikhs poy pataei se dyo barkes, einai safes giati protima th fygh. Kat` ayton einai h asfalesterh lysh. Alla o ellhnikos laos blepei oti o arxhgos ths N.D. den mporei, den exei protaseis kai programma, den mporei na parei sygkekrimenes qeseis gia ta megala politika zhthmata. O laos ton parathrei, ton gnwrizei kai qa toy dwsei thn apanthsh.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na moy peite, giati endiafereste toso poly gia thn tyxh ths N.D. Ti sas endiaferei, an "pesei sto nero"; Kai deyteron, symfwna me ayta poy eipate, oses fores to PASOK apoxwrhse apo th Boylh gia dikoys toy logoys, to ebaze sta podia; Dhladh, mporoyme na xrhsimopoihsoyme kai emeis ta idia logia me ta dika sas, kaqe fora poy to PASOK feygei apo th Boylh; Sas qymizw oti thn koryfaia entajh mas sthn E.E. den thn ypegrace to PASOK kai shkwqhke kai efyge. To "balate kai eseis sta podia", tote;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, einai logiko na kanoyme kai emeis antiparaqesh, opws kai th dexomaste apo ta alla kommata kai idiaitera apo thn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh, h opoia antiparatiqetai me thn kybernhsh. Einai logiko kai h kybernhsh na krinei thn politikh ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs h thn anyparjia politikhs, opws to qelete. Den yparxei kaneis poy na mhn yfistatai kritikh. Oson afora to deytero kommati ths erwthshs sas, qelw na qymisw oti oses fores to PASOK ws ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh eixe apoxwrhsei apo th Boylh, to eixe kanei proballontas sygkekrimenh kai safh qesh kai oxi giati den hjere ti na pei.

TAKHS: Eipate gia to qema toy shmerinoy dystyxhmatos, oti yphrje amesh kinhtopoihsh twn arxwn. Wstoso, toso o Proedros toy EKAB to prwi eipe oti enhmerwqhke stis 4 ta jhmerwmata, oso kai o k. Tzogannhs, milwntas to prwi se radiofwniko staqmo, eipe oti den qewrei ikanopoihtikh thn kinhtopoihsh poy egine.

PRWTOPAPAS: Milhsa gia ton elegxo twn aitiwn toy dystyxhmatos.

TAKHS: Eipate oti yphrje amesh kinhtopoihsh twn arxwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia na mhn yparjei parejhghsh, epanalambanw oti milhsa gia ton elegxo twn aitiwn toy dystyxhmatos. Dioti, to dystyxhma eixe ginei. Apo ekei kai pera, einai poly krisimo zhthma -kai pisteyw oti ayto apaitei olh h ellhnikh koinwnia, shmera- na elegjoyme gia na maqei o Ellhnas poliths ti egine.

TAKHS: Oson afora thn kinhtopoihsh poy egine, apo thn wra poy shmeiwqhke to dystyxhma mexri thn wra poy breqhkan ta syntrimmia toy elikopteroy, eiste ikanopoihmenos apo thn kinhtopoihsh twn arxwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Se ayta ta zhthmata yparxei seira paragontwn poy prepei na synektimhsoyme. Gia paradeigma, exw ena xarti toy GEN, to opoio anakoinwnei oti enhmerwqhke to Kentro Epixeirhsewn oti agnoeitai to elikoptero stis 04.50 kai oti stis 05.10 eixe, hdh, fygei kanonioforos, enw eixe teqei se etoimothta elikoptero typoy Sikorski, sth bash elikopterwn toy Naytikoy. Dhladh, mesa se poly ligo xroniko diasthma eixan kinhtopoihqei. Ejartatai, loipon, pote egine h sxetikh enhmerwsh. En pash periptwsei, qa doyme pws proxwroyn oi ereynes gyrw apo to qema kai qa topoqethqoyme analytika. Qelw na dieykrinisw oti milhsa gia th diereynhsh twn aitiwn toy dystyxhmatos, sto oti hdh jekinhsan oi ereynes.

KONTOPOYLOS: Epeidh kai to prohgoymeno atyxhma egine nyxta kai epeidh diaforoi anqrwpoi poy gnwrizoyn to antikeimeno twn pthsewn twn elikopterwn, lene oti ta elikoptera ayta den mporoyn na petoyn nyxta, h kybernhsh h kapoioi ypeyqynoi lene giati petaje nyxta, an epitrepetai kai an yparxoyn synqhkes asfaleias na petoyn nyxta ta sygkekrimena elikoptera;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn kapoioi kanonismoi poy isxyoyn kai me bash aytoys ginontai oles oi pthseis. Den mporoyme, omws, na gnwrizoyme oles tis aities, ean den prohghqei mia stoixeiwdhs kat` arxas ereyna, h opoia meta qa proxwrhsei se baqos. Exoyn metabei ekei oi armodioi, opws plhroforhqhka apo to Ypoyrgeio Ygeias kai Pronoias kai apo thn YPA kai qa ginoyn oi prwtes ereynes. Sth synexeia, aytes oi ereynes qa proxwrhsoyn se baqos. Yparxei eidikh anejarthth arxh, me bash ton eidiko nomo 2912/2001, poy qa diereynhsei poly grhgora ta aitia toy dystyxhmatos kai bebaiws apo ekei qa ejaxqoyn ola ta anagkaia symperasmata. As mhn epixeiroyme ayth th stigmh mia analytikh enhmerwsh h ypoqeseis kai as perimenoyme tis ereynes poy qa ginoyn.

MPOTWNHS: Ayrio exoyme genikh apergia. Mporeite na mas peite, ti akribws symbainei; Den exoyn katalabei kala oi ergazomenoi ayta poy eipate prohgoymenws; Ta exoyn katalabei kala kai exoyn dikio h ypokinoyntai apo ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qelw na parembw sta eswterika toy syndikalistikoy kinhmatos. Oloi gnwrizoyme oti yparxoyn apoceis. Egw topoqetoymai se sygkekrimena peristatika kai epixeirhmata poy sas anefera analytika. Ayto to asfalistiko nomosxedio, h asfalistikh metarryqmish poy epixeiroyme, einai yper twn ergazomenwn kai twn misqwtwn, einai yper ths biwsimothtas toy asfalistikoy systhmatos. Dhmioyrgei ena neo asfalistiko systhma, biwsimo kai dikaio. Kai to dikaio, mas endiaferei para poly. Ayto exoyme desmeyqei ston ellhniko lao kai ayto kanoyme.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Dhladh, oloi aytoi poy apergoyn ayrio den einai ikanopoihmenoi, apo osa mas eipate prohgoymenws;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporw na gnwrizw ti qelei o kaqenas. Ayto poy gnwrizw einai ti kanoyme emeis. Akoysame to syndikalistiko Kinhma, milhsame me toys ekproswpoys toy, gnwrizete oti yparxoyn polles apoceis kai oti exoyme kanei dektes tis perissoteres -h arketes toylaxiston- apo tis apoceis poy ejefrase h GSEE.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Tote, giati apergoyn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto to erwthma den prepei na to apeyqynete se mena.

ANTYPAS: Qa mporoysate na mas enhmerwsete gia to ti shmainei, se o,ti afora thn kybernhsh, h frash toy Prwqypoyrgoy poy htan sto grapto keimeno ths omilias toy, oti "qa doqei ena telos me ton enan h ton allon tropo";

PRWTOPAPAS: O,ti eixe na pei o Prwqypoyrgos, to eipe thn Paraskeyh kai to Sabbato. Pisteyw oti bgalame oloi ta symperasmata mas. Den blepw to logo na epanelqoyme shmera. Eipwqhkan ola enwpion toy ellhnikoy laoy. Exete bgalei kai eseis ta symperasmata sas kai exete kanei tis analyseis sas.

TAKHS: O k. Pagkalos, se synenteyjh toy sto ``BHMA'' eipe oti ean to PASOK pesei katw apo tis 20 Nomarxies, prepei na ginei ektakto Synedrio. Kata thn apoch sas, ena ektakto Synedrio se tetoies peristaseis, ti mporei na syzhthsei, thn allagh hgesias; Ti akribws; Kai giati to zhtaei ena koryfaio stelexos, opws o k. Pagkalos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den epiqymw, apo th qesh toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy, na sxoliasw dhlwseis stelexwn mas.

KARGOYDH: Symplhrwmatika sthn erwthsh toy k. Takh, hqela na rwthsw ean, me dedomeno kai toy klimatos kai twn epishmansewn poy ekane o Prwqypoyrgos sth diarkeia ths K.E., apotimatai xrhsimh h symbolh toy k. Pagkaloy me tis dhmosies parembaseis, symperilambanomenhs kai ths teleytaias toy synenteyjhs.

PRWTOPAPAS: H apanthsh moy sthn prohgoymenh erwthsh isxyei apolyta kai sth dikh sas.

KAPPOS: Gia na epanelqoyme sta toy elikopteroy, sebomai apolyta th qesh sas oti diereynwntai ta aitia toy atyxhmatos. Ayto poy qelw na sas rwthsw einai ean me thn katastash poy yparxei shmera sta ellhnika elikodromia, ean qewreite oti yparxoyn oi synqhkes asfaleias poy eggywntai th metafora, xwris fobo, twn Ellhnwn otan prokeitai gia ektaktes anagkes h gia opoiodhpote logo na metaferqoyn me elikoptero.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa apanthsw analytika, afoy enhmerwqw.

KAPPOS: Den einai texnikhs fyshs h erwthsh. Antilambaneste oti exei politiko periexomeno.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporw na jerw mesa se liges wres ti ginetai se ola ta elikodromia. Qa diakindyneya mia apanthsh poy mporei na htan laqos. Tis apanthseis moy tis dinw, otan eimai plhrws etoimos. Ayrio, poy qa exoyme apotelesmata kai kapoia stoixeia, qa mporesoyme na syzhthsoyme perissotero.

KAPPOS: To lew, giati hdh shmera dhmosieyqhkan ekqeseis kratikwn organismwn poy deixnoyn thn asfaleia h thn anasfaleia, tis elleiceis twn ellhnikwn elikodromiwn...

PRWTOPAPAS: Biazeste. Rwthqhke o ypoyrgos Ygeias gia to qema ayto, se kapoia synenteyjh toy se radiofwniko staqmo, kai eipe oti yparxoyn polla elikodromia, exoyn ginei 17. Yparxoyn oi armodies yphresies, poy mas enhmerwnoyn gia toys asfaleis tropoys prosgeiwshs kai apogeiwshs. Ola ayta, bebaiws, ajiologoyntai se kaqe fash kai prospaqoyme na kanoyme to kalytero dynato. Ayto poy exoyme na kanoyme -epeidh exoyn perasei mono merikes wres apo thn apokalych toy idiaitera lyphroy gegonotos poy mas sygklonise oloys, apo th stigmh poy kinhtopoihqhkan oi arxes gia na dienerghqei h ereyna- einai na perimenoyme ta stoixeia ths, gia na exoyme mia synolikh eikona.

KAPPOS: Mia erwthsh poy exei sxesh me thn armodiothta sas, ws ypoyrgoy Typoy: Opws gnwrizete katw apo to ktirio briskontai sygkentrwmenoi ergazomenoi ston omilo Androylidakh. Hqela na sas rwthsw, ean exei dikaiwma opoiosdhpote ergodoths sto xwro twn MME, pera apo thn aqethsh twn typikwn toy ypoxrewsewn apenanti stoys ergazomenoys, na katastrathghsei symfwnies poy exei synacei me ypoyrgo ths kybernhshs sas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto isxyei gia oloys toys ergodotes. Den yparxei diafora enos ergodoth sto xwro twn MME kai enos ergodoth se kapoio allo xwro, gia thn Politeia. Den yparxoyn pronomiakes antimetwpiseis se kanenan.

KAPPOS: Kaqe allo, isa-isa oi synadelfoi einai oi esxatws mh pronomioyxoi...

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na to katasthsw safes. Den antimetwpizoyme enan ergodoth poy einai se MME, diaforetika apo enan ergodoth -toylaxiston oson afora tis ypoxrewseis toy pros toys ergazomenoys- se opoiadhpote allh epixeirhsh. Exei enwpion toy nomoy kai enwpion twn arxwn thn idia akribws antimetwpish kai tis idies akribws eyqynes. Isxyei to idio gia oloys.

KAPPOS: Kai se paraplhsia synafeia, einai eykolo gia toys ergazomenoys, toy Typoy, en prokeimenw, oi opoioi qeloyn na sas ekqesoyn ena aithma na sas broyn opoiadhpote stigmh kai na sas ekqesoyn...

PRWTOPAPAS: Ennoeite thn kyria poy moy thlefwnhse otan hmoyn sto dromo kai epemene na moy qesei to aithma, enw hmoyn orqios kai epixeiroysa na perasw to fanari ekeinh thn wra. Me sygxwreite, alla ean ennoeite ayto, epeidh egrafh se mia efhmerida, lypoymai poly gia ton tropo me ton opoio leitoyrgoyn orismenoi. Parakalesa na moy thlefwnhsei se mish wra, sto grafeio moy kai moy eipe ``qelw na soy milhsw twra''. Hmoyn me kosmo ekeinh thn wra, sto dromo kai malista me arketoys apo esas na moy thlefwnoyn, giati eprepe na kleisoyn oi efhmerides. Hmoyn ektos grafeioy, gia doyleia toy ypoyrgeioy. Parakalesa thn kyria ayth na moy thlefwnhsei se mish wra. Den moy thlefwnhse kai thn allh mera eida ena mikropolitiko sthn ``KAQHMERINH''. Den einai sobara pragmata. Kapoioi anqrwpoi prepei na katalaboyn oti eimaste sth diaqesh twn pantwn gia na paleyoyme kai na frontizoyme na dinoyme lyseis, alla otan parakaloyme kapoion gia mia stoixeiwdh anqrwpinh dieykolynsh, ofeilei na th dinei kai oxi na mas antimetwpizei exqrika, dioti tote dyskoleyoyme kai th synennohsh mas. Aytoy toy eidoys h symperifora einai anepitrepth. Den apotelei aitiologia oti den me plhrwse ekeinh thn hmera o k. Androylidakhs, otan se parakalei o allos na toy thlefwnhseis se mish wra. Ayto shmainei oti kati allo pame na bgaloyme. Den antimetwpizw toys ergazomenoys me bash to an einai sthn kybernhsh h sthn antipoliteysh h ti pisteyoyn. Kai qelw etsi, otan synennooymaste me ergazomenoys, na me antimetwpizoyn ki ekeinoi.

KAPPOS: Me ayth th diatypwsh sas oti kati allo pane na bgaloyn, ti ennoeite; Milame gia ergazomenoys sta sygkekrimena Mesa.

PRWTOPAPAS: Mporei kapoios na kanei epiqesh gia politikoys logoys. Dikaiwma toy. Dhmokratia exoyme sthn Ellada. Alla, egw ofeilw na pw thn apoch moy.

TAKHS: Sto kommati ths prwqypoyrgikhs omilias poy exei shmera prwtoselido h ``ELEYQEROTYPIA'', otan leme me ton enan h ton allo tropo, o allos tropos einai oi diagrafes; Pisteyete oti ean ayth h eswkommatikh gkrinia kai eswstrefeia synexistei, qa prepei na fanoyn ston orizonta kai oi diagrafes, gia na stamathsei; Giati ayto to kommati, ayto yponoei.

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos, me thn idiothta toy Proedroy toy PASOK, bebaiws kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy, ekane analytikes anafores sth diarkeia ths 2hmerhs Synodoy ths K.E. Aytes tis analytikes anafores poy ekane, mporeite na tis ajiopoihsete. Ejalloy tis gnwrizete kai tis exete hdh sxoliasei. Nomizw oti den xreiazetai na poyme tipote allo shmera.

Na prosqesw kati: O Prwqypoyrgos, einai logiko oti prwta ap ola qetei ta zhthmata ths prowqhshs toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Kai se ayto to qema rixnei olo to baros, sthn prowqhsh toy ergoy mas, sthn eyqynh poy exoyme apenanti ston ellhniko lao poy mas chfise, sthn ypoxrewsh poy analabame me tis desmeyseis mas. Kai ayto to ergo o Prwqypoyrgos einai apofasismenos, ws epikefalhs ths kybernhshs, na to ferei se peras. Gia ta fainomena poy yphrjan mesa sto PASOK kai gia ta problhmata poy yphrjan, topoqethqhke analytika, me dyo omilies, sth diarkeia ths Synodoy ths K.E. O,ti eixe na pei gyrw apo ayta ta zhthmata, to eipe ekei. Ayto poy xreiazetai twra einai na syneidhtopoihsoyme oloi thn eyqynh poy exoyme enanti toy ellhnikoy laoy kai enanti ths paratajhs mas kai na feroyme se peras to ergo poy exoyme analabei. Ayth einai h apostolh mas, aytos einai o stoxos mas.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Qa einai telikws dyo oi phges enhmerwshs toy kybernhtikoy ergoy, eseis kai to Megaro Majimoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qelw na sas koyrazw, epanalambanomenos. Exw hdh topoqethqei.

Sas eyxaristw.

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