Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-06-11

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 11 Ioynioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Na jekinhsoyme me to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy:

Shmera, stis 16.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synergasia me ton proedreyonta toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, Prwqypoyrgo ths Ispanias Xose Maria Aqnar. Antikeimeno ths syzhthshs -poy qa ginei apo ton k. Aqnar kai me toys alloys eyrwpaioys hgetes- qa einai ta qemata ths Synodoy Koryfhs ths Sebillhs, poy qa aforoyn thn Eyrwpaikh Politikh Metanasteyshs kai Asyloy, th metarryqmish toy Symboylioy Koryfhs, th dieyrynsh ths E.E. se syndyasmo me thn agrotikh politikh, th biwsimh anaptyjh kai bebaiws ta qemata twn ekkremothtwn gyrw apo thn Eyrwpaikh Dynamh Taxeias Parembashs.

Thn Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synergasia me to Grammatea ths K.E. toy PASOK Kwsta Laliwth. Stis 12 to meshmeri, qa proedreysei ths Diypoyrgikhs Epitrophs gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes kai stis 7 to apogeyma, qa proedreysei ths synedriashs toy E.G. toy Kinhmatos, me antikeimeno thn proetoimasia ths K.E. toy PASOK, h opoia me th seira ths proetoimazei thn organwtikh syndiaskech.

Thn Pempth, stis 10 to prwi, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, me qema thn proodo ths pragmatikhs oikonomikhs kai koinwnikhs sygklishs kai ta eidika problhmata poy anakyptoyn kata toys qerinoys mhnes.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 12 to meshmeri, qa jekinhsei, me politikh omilia toy, tis ergasies ths Synodoy ths K.E. toy Kinhmatos.

H orkwmosia toy neoy ypoyrgoy Ygeias Kwsta Stefanh qa ginei thn Pempth, stis 10 to prwi. Sth synexeia, o neos ypoyrgos qa parastei sth synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

MOYRTZHS: Xqes, apo ta "ypogeia" toy Megaroy Majimoy kykloforhse ena non paper pente shmeiwn poy htan mia synoch ths stixomyqias toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton aperxomeno ypoyrgo, poy apedide ston aperxomeno ypoyrgo fygoponia kai xarakthrize katadikastea th stash toy, me synepeia na eisprajei mia apanthsh kai na milhsei o aperxomenos ypoyrgos gia "politikh aqliothta". To erwthma moy einai, ean eiste koinwnos kai pote toy non paper, an h stixomyqia einai ayqentikh kai ean yparxei rhjh stis sxeseis sas me ton k. Pantagia se qemata epikoinwniakhs politikhs.

PRWTOPAPAS: O,ti eixa na pw gyrw apo to qema ths politikhs aitiologhshs ths paraithshs toy k. Alekoy Papadopoyloy, to eipa xqes kai den qewrw oti prepei na prosqesw tipota shmera.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Den qelete na prosqesete tipota, alla o synadelfos eqese mia seira erwthmatwn. Eseis mporei na mhn peite ayto poy qelete na peite@

PRWTOPAPAS: Epimenw pws o,ti eixa na pw gia thn politikh aitiologhsh ths paraithshs toy k. Papadopoyloy, to eipa xqes kai nomizw oti prepei na meinw mexris ekei.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Gi` ayto, den eipate tipota, omws.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den xreiazetai kai den exw na sxoliasw tipota allo.

KONTOPOYLOS: Alhqeyei h plhroforia oti tria kentrika stelexh ths asfaleias toy Prwqypoyrgoy apomakrynontai apo th froyra toy, meta to epeisodio toy Sabbatoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to gnwrizw.

IWANNOY: Epeidh den katalabame kala thn apanthsh sas, ola ayta poy mas eipate xqes kai poy doqhkan ws non paper, isxyoyn; Ta egkrinei o Prwqypoyrgos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas ypenqymizw oti hdh exw apanthsei me to prohgoymeno sxolio moy. O,ti eixame na poyme gyrw apo thn politikh aitiologhsh ths paraithshs toy k. Alekoy Papadopoyloy, to eipame eyqarsws xqes.

GARGALAKOS: Milate se plhqyntiko, omws twra, enw prohgoymenws@

PRWTOPAPAS: Ws kybernhsh.

GARGALAKOS: Ara, perilambanete kai ton Prwqypoyrgo@

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa ws kybernhsh. O,ti eixame na poyme gia thn politikh aitiologhsh ths paraithshs toy aperxomenoy ypoyrgoy, to eipame.

IWANNOY: Apo oles tis phges;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exw kanena allo sxolio.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Ti ekfrazei thn kybernhsh; Ayta poy eipate eseis h ayta poy bghkan sto ``non paper'';

PRWTOPAPAS: Thn kybernhsh thn ekfrazei o Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos. Otan einai parwn bebaia o Prwqypoyrgos, isxyei to ``arxhgoy parontos pasa arxh paysatw''. Nomizw oti oloi katalabainete thn anagkaia dieykrinish. Ejalloy, h erwthsh sas exei na kanei me thn politikh aitiologhsh toy qematos. Einai katanohto oti otan apoysiazei o Prwqypoyrgos kai rwtate emena, ekfrazw to synolo ths kybernhshs, den ekfrazw proswpikes apoceis moy.

KONTOPOYLOS: O k. Papadopoylos prin bgalei thn anakoinwsh toy sas ejefrase th dysareskeia toy gia tis diarroes poy eixan ginei kai gia to klima poy epikrathse;

PRWTOPAPAS: Pisteyw oti den xreiazetai na sxoliasw allo to qema.

KARGOYDH: Qa hqela na mas perigrafate h na xarakthrizate tis sxeseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Papadopoylo meta thn oloklhrwsh ths xqesinhs synanthshs toys kai meta thn paraithsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den katanow thn erwthsh sas.

KARGOYDH:... Tis politikes sxeseis, kyrie Ypoyrge.

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws einai oles oi sxeseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ta stelexh ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas kai ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs toy PASOK kai malista ta stelexh megalhs barythtas kai prosforas, opws o Alekos Papadopoylos. Den katalabainw giati prepei na yparxei idiaiterh sxesh. Giati qa prepei na dhmioyrgoyme problhmata ekei poy den yparxoyn.

KARGOYDH: Apelyqh o k. Papadopoylos. Me ayth thn ennoia, den yparxei politiko problhma stis sxeseis twn dyo andrwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den apolyqhke, zhthqhke h paraithsh toy. O k. Papadopoylos -opws hdh eixe proanaggeilei- edwse thn paraithsh toy, amesws molis toy zhthqhke. Yphrje mia syzhthsh oysias me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Sas qymisw oti, bgainontas apo to Megaro Majimoy, o k. Papadopoylos eipe -kai poly swsta- oti toy zhthqhke h paraithsh, thn edwse kai oti paramenei strateymenos -apodidw se ayto idiaiterh shmasia- sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada kai thn Kentrikh Epitroph toy Kinhmatos. Mhn anazhtoyme problhmata ekei poy den yparxoyn. Thn politikh aitiologia ths paraithshs, dhladh, to giati toy zhthqhke h paraithsh apo ton Prwqypoyrgo, nomizw sas thn eipa analytika xqes.

GARGALAKOS: Otan bghke xqes apo to Megaro Majimoy o k. Papadopoylos, ekane mia poly hpia topoqethsh. Kai ayto to syndyazw me th frash sas oti den prepei na dhmioyrgoyme problhmata ekei poy den yparxoyn. Sth synexeia, me tis ermhneies poy doqhkan sto periexomeno ths syzhthshs apo phges toy Megaroy Majimoy, eixame mia ojynsh ths katastashs, me apotelesma o k. Papadopoylos na epanelqei kai na mila gia ``politikh aqliothta''. Meta apo ayta, sas rwtw, giati oi phges apo to Megaro Majimoy den qelhsan na ojynoyn thn katastash, alla telika ayto kataferan.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den pisteyw oti einai etsi ta pragmata! Oyte yphrje qelhsh apo kapoion na ojynei thn katastash. Pros Qeoy. Apo thn arxh yphrxe mia safhs topoqethsh moy -kai qelw na meinw se ayth- poy apanta se ola. Oydeis hqele na ojynei thn katastash.

IWANNOY: Tote poy apodidei h kybernhsh to sygkekrimeno xarakthrismo toy k. Papadopoyloy, kati profanws ton enoxlhse kai ekeinos htan parwn sth syzhthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Ti ejhghsh dinete;.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den protiqemai ayth th stigmh na antidikhsw me ta stelexh mas. Den exw kamia tetoia diaqesh.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Qa hqela na moy apanthsete, pote qa synedriasei to Epikoinwniako Kentro ths kybernhshs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Piqanotata thn Pempth.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Diafores ektimhseis apo thn prwth kiolas mera, lene oti to epaggelmatiko kyriws profil toy neoy ypoyrgoy Ygeias k. Stefanh qa odhghsei se allagh ths politikhs ths kybernhshs sto xwro ths ygeias kai kyriws se o,ti afora th metarryqmish poy exei jekinhsei. Poio einai to sxolio sas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai mia shmantikh erwthsh. Diabasa ki egw se merida toy Typoy na ekfrazontai anhsyxies kai ektimhseis. Qelw na tonisw oti den yparxei kanenas logos anhsyxias. O k. Kwstas Stefanhs einai anqrwpos kyroys, akadhmaikos, kaqhghths. Prosqetw omws oti einai kai politikos. Qelw na qymisw th synexh paroysia toy stis politikes kai koinwnikes ejelijeis, alla kai to gegonos oti exei yphrethsei to Ellhniko Koinoboylio apo th qesh toy boyleyth Epikrateias toy PASOK thn perasmenh tetraetia. O k. Stefanhs klhqhke apo ton Prwqypoyrgo kai apodexqhke na strateyqei gia thn prowqhsh ths politikhs mas sto xwro ths ygeias. H metarryqmish sto xwro ths ygeias qa proxwrhsei. H politikh mas sto xwro ths ygeias qa efarmostei. O k. Stefanhs analambanei ayth thn idiaitera sobarh eyqynh, exontas, bebaiws, th gnwsh, thn empeiria, thn ikanothta kai thn politikh qelhsh na thn prowqhsei.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Poia phgh qa anagnwrizoyme emeis epishmws oti ekfrazei thn kybernhsh; Ton kybernhtiko ekproswpo h ayta poy synebhsan xqes kai eimaste koinwnoi oloi, sto pws dioxeteyqhkan ston Typo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, thn kybernhsh thn ekfrazei prwta kai kyria o Prwqypoyrgos. Stoys epimeroys tomeis, thn kybernhtikh politikh thn ekfrazoyn oi armodioi ypoyrgoi. Oson afora ta genika politika zhthmata, ta zhthmata ths enhmerwshs kai tis epimeroys topoqethseis, otan aytes krinontai aparaithtes, tis ekfrazei o kybernhtikos ekproswpos. Ayth einai h pagia politikh, poy threitai kai twra.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Pws to xarakthrizete ayto poy synebh xqes; Oi kykloi toy Majimoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai etsi ta pragmata, opws ta lete. Sto Megaro Majimoy yparxoyn entetalmenoi symboyloi toy Prwqypoyrgoy, me shmantikh eyqynh sth sxesh toys me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Opoiasdhpote morfhs doyleia ginetai ekei, afora thn emfanish, thn proetoimasia kai tis parembaseis poy kanei o idios o Prwqypoyrgos. Sta qemata ths kybernhtikhs politikhs, enhmerwnoyme edw, sto press-room.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Sthn prokeimenh periptwsh, omws, exoyme mia dhlwsh toy k. Papadopoyloy, meta apo ola ayta, poy epibebaiwnei to gegonos twn kyklwn Majimoy.

PRWTOPAPAS: O,ti eixa na pw to eipa. Den yphrxan tetoies parembaseis xqes poy na dhmioyrgoyn problhmata. Egine kapoia parejhghsh, den xreiazetai na epanelqoyme. Den mporoyme na dhmioyrgoyme problhmata ekei poy den yparxoyn. Giati problhmata den yparxoyn.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Otan lete ``parejhghsh'' ti ennoeite;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto poy ennow.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Den katalaba ean o Prwqypoyrgos gnwrize oti qa kykloforhsei ayto to ``non paper'' kai to periexomeno toy h telika kykloforhse en agnoia toy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oyden sxolio. H politikh aitiologhsh ths paraithshs toy k. Papadopoyloy doqhke epishmws xqes. Den thn krycame.

IWANNOY: Epeidh, xqes, yphrjan dhmosies dhlwseis stelexwn toy PASOK kai mia entonh enoxlhsh, dioti o Prwqypoyrgos epeleje proswpo ektos Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas toy PASOK; Ti apantate;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai h prwth fora, oyte h teleytaia sthn koinoboyleytikh istoria ths Elladas, opoy o Prwqypoyrgos epilegei enan ypoyrgo poy den anhkei sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada. O Kwstas Stefanhs einai kaqhghths sto xwro ths ygeias me empeiria kai gnwsh. Einai enas anqrwpos kyroys sto xwro ths ygeias. Einai akadhmaikos kai anqrwpos me idiaiterh gnwsh ths politikhs. Exei yphrethsei sto ellhniko Koinoboylio apo th qesh toy boyleyth toy PASOK, epi mia tetraetia. Exei symmetasxei, me energh paroysia, se oles tis ejelijeis sto xwro ths ygeias.

IWANNOY: Sxetika me to Asfalistiko qema poy einai se ejelijh sth Boylh. Qelete na kanete kapoio sxolio; Giati yparxei ena meizon qema poy teqhke apo thn antipoliteysh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Na afhsoyme thn koinoboyleytikh diadikasia na ejelixqei. Mporw na kanw sxolio, otan ejelissetai h diadikasia; Den einai dokimo kai deontologiko na parembei h kybernhsh kata thn ejelijh mias koinoboyleytikhs diadikasias. Kai opws jerete, toylaxiston, mexri thn wra poy arxize h politikh enhmerwsh, den eixe oloklhrwqei h diadikasia.

MPOTWNHS: Epeidh yparxei mia syskech gia ton eyrwstrato, ayth thn wra, alla kai epeidh perimenoyme ton k. Aqnar gia th synanthsh toy me ton Prwqypoyrgo...

PRWTOPAPAS: Na sas diorqwsw, den einai gia ton eyrwstrato. Einai proetoimasia gia to synolo ths syzhthshs me ton k. Aqnar.

MPOTWNHS: Nai, entajei. Mesa se ola ayta einai kai to qema toy eyrwstratoy. Epeidh exoyme to apogeyma kai th synanthsh twn dyo prwqypoyrgwn, yparxei kati neo se ayto poy leme "eyrwstratos";

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia to qema ayto poy leme "eyrwstratos" kai poy einai h dynamh taxeias parembashs ths E.E., to ESDP opws einai o swstos oros, qelw na pw oti yparxoyn epafes poy einai se synexh ejelijh. Ean, loipon, aytes tis epafes poy einai se synexh ejelijh tis apokaloyme kati neo, tote nai einai kati neo. Alla, kaneis den mporei na prodikasei to teliko apotelesma. To eipa kai xqes, to epanalambanw kai shmera, dioti einai kati poly shmantiko kai den qelw na sas parasyrw se laqh. Den briskomaste sta proqyra symfwnias. Yparxoyn ejelijeis; Nai, anamfibola. Einai qetiko to oti yparxoyn ejelijeis; Bebaiws. Alla den shmainei oti exoyme fqasei sthn wra kapoias symfwnias. Exoyme poly dromo akoma kai qelw na to epishmanw ayto.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Epeidh, xqes, sas rwthsa ep` aytoy toy qematos, oi plhrofories lene oti kapoy plhsiazoyn tis ellhnikes qeseis ta nea dedomena poy metaferei o k. Aqnar. Einai ontws etsi;

PRWTOPAPAS: Na to doyme, prwta; Nomizw oti einai protimotero na perimenoyme th synanthsh, giati, opws katalabainete, den qa mas ta proanaggeilei o k. Aqnar. Kai kala qa kanei bebaiws. Qa ta pei ston Prwqypoyrgo.

POYLIDOY: Hqela na rwthsw, se sxesh me ta xqesina apotelesma toy Symboylioy Ypoyrgwn sto Loyjemboyrgo, an ayta kata thn ektimhsh sas prooiwnizontai mia kaqysterhsh sth dieyrynsh kai an anhsyxeite apo th xqesinh agonh syzhthsh poy egine.

PRWTOPAPAS: Anhsyxoyme, alla den qeloyme na biastoyme na kanoyme ektimhseis. Xqes, yphrje mia seira problhmatwn, me thn emmonh orismenwn xwrwn sta qemata ths agrotikhs politikhs, alla exoyme poly dromo akomh, mexri th Synodo Koryfhs. Opws gnwrizete, o k. Aqnar den qa dei mono to diko mas Prwqypoyrgo, alla kai arketoys prwqypoyrgoys xwrwn-melwn ths E.E., an oxi oloys. Qa diamorfwsei, isws, ena kalytero klima synennohshs, enocei ths Synodoy Koryfhs kai ayth toyth h Synodos Koryfhs mporei na jeperasei kapoia problhmata poy yparxoyn shmera. Omologw oti dhmioyrghqhkan kapoia problhmata xqes ston tomea ths agrotikhs politikhs, alla tipota den prodikazei oti qa meinoyme ekei kai oti den qa breqoyn lyseis. Kai qeloyme na breqoyn lyseis.

POYLIDOY: Kati diadikastiko: H Synodos Koryfhs qa ginei Paraskeyh, telika;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxei periptwsh na fygoyme Paraskeyh prwi, giati, opws gnwrizete, yparxei mia genikh apergia, Tetarth kai Pempth, sthn Ispania kai eidika sth Sebillh. Xwris na to lew ws kati teliko, epeidh gnwrizw oti polloi endiafereste kai gia tis synqhkes apostolhs, yparxei periptwsh na fygoyme kai Paraskeyh prwi. Bebaiws, qa sas enhmerwsoyme. Opws katalabainete, se mia tetoia periptwsh, qa prepei na eiste etoimoi kai gia to Sabbato.

POYLIDOY: Den exei metaferqei se Sabbatokyriako;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mexri stigmhs, den exei ginei metafora. Apo thn empeiria sas, omws, poy einai isxyroterh ths dikhs moy se Synodoys Koryfhs, katalabainete oti piqanon to Sabbato na xreiastei na meinoyme ekei. Ayto, omws, den mporoyme na to prokaqorisoyme, ayth th stigmh. Einai poly nwris.

KARGOYDH: Hqela na rwthsw, ean qa prepei na qewrhsoyme oti exei oloklhrwqei h ereyna gia thn apodosh eyqynwn, sxetika me to epeisodio toy Sabbatoy sto spiti toy Prwqypoyrgoy, me thn apolysh toy epikefalhs toy astynomikoy Tmhmatos Ejarxeiwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Topoqethqhka, xqes. Ayta den lynontai mesa se liges wres. Sas eipa oti otan oloklhrwqei h ereyna, qa enhmerwqeite. Qa epikoinwnhsw me ton k. Xrysoxoidh ayrio -prin th synanthsh mas- kai qa sas enhmerwsw.

MOYRTZHS: Na epanelqw sto qema toy k. Papadopoyloy. O k. Papadopoylos xarakthrise stalinikh nootropia to politiko skeptiko ths apofashs apopomphs toy...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eida poyqena ayth th dhlwsh.

MOYRTZHS: Bebaiws. Emfanizetai ston Typo. Ejefrase thn apoch oti den mporei na exei o ypoyrgos proswpikes epiloges, epeidh ayto exei politikes epiptwseis. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qa sxoliasoyme anafores toy Typoy. Nomizw oti den prepei na synexisoyme se ayto to klima. Exw kanei tis sxetikes anafores kai thn politikh aitiologhsh. Apo ekei kai pera, kaqenas mporei na thn krinei.

MOYRTZHS: Diarroes apo to Megaro Majimoy, diarroes kai apo ton Typo!

PRWTOPAPAS: Koitajte, den einai etsi ta pragmata, oyte mporoyme na sxoliazoyme synexws dhmosieymata. Den ginetai ayto.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Mia dieykrinish mporeite na moy dwsete; Eipate prohgoymenws oti egine mia parejhghsh, h opoia teleiwse. Metajy poiwn egine h parejhghsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: O,ti eixa na pw, to eipa.

ALEJAKHS: Pws sxoliazei h kybernhsh shmerino dhmosieyma poy anaferei oti ejetazontai senaria dixotomhshs ths Kyproy kai anagnwrishs apo peripoy 15 krath, moysoylmanika isws, toy ceydokratoys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas qymisw oti yparxoyn apofaseis toy OHE.

ALEJAKHS: Ayto einai to sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas qymisw oti yparxoyn apofaseis toy OHE poy, bebaia, den tis exoyme chfisei monon emeis.

ALEJAKHS: Kai ena deytero erwthma, ean mesa sto plaisio ths E.E. h Ellada einai pleon monh ths, se sxesh me thn eyrwpaikh prooptikh ths Toyrkias. An, dhladh, oi alloi etairoi exoyn arxisei safws na enistantai apo thn arxikh toys qesh peri proseggishs ths Toyrkias me thn E.E.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei kamia allagh qeshs. Sxetikes anafores exoyn ginei kai apo ton armodio Epitropo. H qesh ths E.E. gia thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias den exei allajei. Bebaiws, qelw na sas qymisw oti h qesh ayth eixe kai proapaitoymena, oroys kai proypoqeseis. Den htan en leykw. Ean, dhladh, oi oroi kai oi proypoqeseis den ikanopoihqoyn, den eyqynetai h E.E.

IWANNOY: Epeidh oloklhrwqhke h ejelijh sth Boylh kai o k. Kaklamanhs symfwnhse telika me to aithma ths N.D., to opoio xarakthrise swsto kai anablhqhke h syzhthsh gia dyo hmeres argotera...

PRWTOPAPAS: Eixate thn anesh, kanontas kakh xrhsh toy kinhtoy sas kata th diarkeia ths syzhthshs mas, na plhroforhqeite kati...

IWANNOY: Den ekana. Me eidate na milhsw; Oxi. Oytws h allws, exei teleiwsei, exei oloklhrwqei h diadikasia sth Boylh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den topoqetoymai, prin to plhroforhqw o idios. Elpizw na to katalabainete ayto. Bebaiws, sas exw plhrh empistosynh, mh qewrhqei oti den sas exw, alla qa htan antideontologiko na sthrixqw se plhroforhsh dhmosiografoy ayth th stigmh.

IWANNOY: H erwthsh moy pantws einai diaforetikh. Epeidh h stash pollwn synadelfwn sas, boyleytwn toy PASOK, syneplee me ths N.D. kai oysiastika oi kyrioi Papaiwannoy kai Kastanidhs apedwsan eyqynes sthn kybernhsh giati den efere nwris, opws eprepe, thn ekqesh toy Elegktikoy Synedrioy. An qelete, ayto na sxoliasete.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw men empistosynh sta legomena sas, alla einai antideontologiko -kai den qa to kanw- na topoqetoymai se plhroforhsh poy fernei enas dhmosiografos kai oxi se plhroforhsh poy exw apo ton armodio ypoyrgo. Sas eipa oti parakoloyqhsa to qema, eixa epafh prin thn enarjh ths enhmerwshs mas. Htan, omws, se ejelijh h diadikasia kai kaneis den mporoyse na problecei thn katalhjh. Qa meinoyme ekei. Qa milhsoyme me toys armodioys kai ayrio qa topoqethqoyme.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Den yparxei politiko qema gia thn kybernhsh, otan gia deyterh fora o ypoyrgos Oikonomias den mporei na "perasei" kati apo th Boylh kai antidroyn oi boyleytes toy PASOK;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai gia sas isxyoyn ola osa eipa sth synadelfo sas. Qelw pantote na synergazomaste. Epikoinwnhsa me toys armodioys ypoyrgoys, prin mpw sthn aiqoysa gia thn enhmerwsh. Pagia arxh -kai nomizw oti ayto apaitei h deontologia- einai oti h syzhthsh mas ginetai me bash osa exoyn ginei, mexri tis 12.59@. Gia ejelijeis meta tis 13.00, topoqetoymaste to apogeyma kai thn epomenh hmera.

Sas eyxaristw.

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